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563: How Rapture Theology Shaped America (Part 1)

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Release Date: 05/03/2023

676: Classroom Culture Wars & the Spirituality of Secular America with Rachel Martin show art 676: Classroom Culture Wars & the Spirituality of Secular America with Rachel Martin

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With Phil on vacation, Kaitlyn and Esau join Skye to talk about the Supreme Court’s ruling that public schools must allow students to opt out of gender or sexuality content that may contradict the religious beliefs of their families. At the same time, more Americans say public schools should hire chaplains to offer spiritual guidance to students. With schools increasingly becoming the front line in the culture war, can public education survive? Then, Skye talks to Rachel Martin, the co-creator of NPR’s Wild Card podcast and former host of Morning Edition, about what she’s learned from...

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675: Iran, End Times, & the Political God Gap with Senator Chris Coons show art 675: Iran, End Times, & the Political God Gap with Senator Chris Coons

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Nothing fires up the End Times industry faster than America dropping bombs in the Middle East. After President Trump decided to attack Iran’s nuclear facilities this weekend, YouTube was flooded with convoluted and contradictory videos on the biblical implications of the war. But if this really is a prelude to Christ’s return, as many online end timers claim, why are they stoking panic and fear? Shouldn’t Christians welcome this news? Skye talks to Senator Chris Coons about how his faith informs his politics, why he went to divinity school, and what the Democrats can do to close the...

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674: Parades, Protests, and Habeas Corpus with Michael Bird show art 674: Parades, Protests, and Habeas Corpus with Michael Bird

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It was a wild weekend. Donald Trump presided over a military parade on his birthday while an estimated 5 million Americans protested around the country. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss the optics of both events and ask, with America’s divided politics and media silos, is protesting still effective? They also unpack a new article by Abby McCloskey in CT that argues evangelicalism’s focus on a private, personalized faith undermines learning, curiosity, and exercising the mind. Then, theologian and Holy Post Pundit, Michael Bird, is back. He offers an outsider’s perspective on Trump’s...

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673: The L.A. Protests & Becoming a Priest and Podcaster with Esau McCaulley show art 673: The L.A. Protests & Becoming a Priest and Podcaster with Esau McCaulley

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Protests in Los Angeles against the Trump administration’s immigration policies have turned violent, but will the images of vandalism and attacks on police actually help the President? And Phil asks if there is any way to prevent necessary mass protests from becoming violent. One of the most respected Bible scholars of the last century has passed away. Old Testament professor Walter Bruggemann contrasted the world’s vision of scarcity with God’s kingdom of abundance, but Kaitlyn thinks his understanding of exile is over-applied today. Skye talks with his Holy Post Media colleague, Esau...

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672: Gender Worship Wars & the Joy of Being Cultural Outsiders with Patrick Miller show art 672: Gender Worship Wars & the Joy of Being Cultural Outsiders with Patrick Miller

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In the past, debates over worship styles were often marked by generational differences; however, a new article suggests that this is changing. For Gen Z, worship preferences may be dividing along gender lines instead. For younger Christians, is CCM from Venus and liturgy from Mars? Drew Dyck joins Skye and Kaitlyn to discuss the evidence, the implications, and the solution for the worship gender divide. Then, Kaitlyn interviews Patrick Miller about his new book with co-author Keith Simon, “Joyful Outsiders.” He says there are six different ways we can respond to the loss of Christian...

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671: Mailbag! God’s Pronouns, Project 2025, & Asking Jesus Into Your Heart show art 671: Mailbag! God’s Pronouns, Project 2025, & Asking Jesus Into Your Heart

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Phil, Kaitlyn, and Skye respond to questions from the listeners, including whether lay people should go to seminary, how important is attending a church after being hurt by one, and whether Christians should make violent video games. They also venture into theological topics like what pronouns are appropriate for God, what doctrines do we emphasize too much, and why they all think telling kids to “ask Jesus into your heart” is a bad idea. The crew also revisits the topic of Project 2025 and whether they regret their dismissive opinions about it from before the election. Also this...

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670: The Nicene Creed is Cool Again & Reading the Bible like Dallas Willard with Dave Ripper show art 670: The Nicene Creed is Cool Again & Reading the Bible like Dallas Willard with Dave Ripper

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Why are more churches rediscovering and reciting the Nicene Creed? And what can the ancient articulation of Christian belief offer the church in these divided times? Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss the 1700th anniversary of the creed and its place in the modern church. The Bible is critical to our faith, but have we been taught to worship the Bible rather than the God of the Bible? Dave Ripper, the author of “Experiencing Scripture as a Disciple of Jesus,” explains how Dallas Willard engaged the Bible and how it can become a source of transformation, not just information. Also this week:...

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669: From Common Good to Culture War—Lessons from the Q Conference with Katelyn Beaty show art 669: From Common Good to Culture War—Lessons from the Q Conference with Katelyn Beaty

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We have a pope and he’s American! Cardinal Robert Prevost from Chicago is now Pope Leo XIV, and his connection to The Holy Post is closer than anyone imagined. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss reactions to the new Pope and the significance of his name. Katelyn Beaty is back to discuss the evolution of the Q Conference, led by Gabe and Rebekah Lyons. Why has an event that started almost 20 years ago with a positive vision of Christian cultural engagement for the common good now shifted to embrace the culture war? And what does it reveal about larger changes within American evangelicalism? Also...

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668: Pope Donald, Human Flourishing, & the Pastor’s Wife with Beth Allison Barr show art 668: Pope Donald, Human Flourishing, & the Pastor’s Wife with Beth Allison Barr

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The White House is facing backlash for posting an AI image of Donald Trump as the Pope. Was it a careless joke or a calculated distraction? The most extensive study of its kind finds that the world’s largest Muslim country far outranks the United States in human flourishing, and also explains why secular elites are discovering a new respect for religion. But is there more than a practical purpose behind faith? Historian Beth Allison Barr is back to discuss her latest book, “Becoming the Pastor’s Wife.” She says expectations for ministry spouses aren’t rooted in Scripture but in a...

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667: The Future of Faith in America with John Kasich show art 667: The Future of Faith in America with John Kasich

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A slate of new articles analyzes Pope Francis through America’s progressive-conservative polarization, but are they confusing political categories with theological ones? Surprising data show that Gen Z is returning to religion, and belief in an afterlife is on the rise, but what's the explanation? Are young people returning to the church to rebel against their secular parents? Former Ohio Governor John Kasich believes America is on the cusp of a spiritual revival, and his new book, “Heaven Help Us,” explores how religious institutions are leading the way. He talks to Skye about how God...

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Many Christians in America simply assume that Jesus could return at any moment, that believers will be raptured in the twinkling of an eye, that the state of Israel has a special role in the End Times, and that the church should just save souls and stay out of politics. In Part 1 of an interview about this new book, historian Daniel G. Hummel explains to Phil how this rapture theology isn’t rooted in church history, but was invented by a British layman less than 200 years ago. And why it was embraced by American pastors during the Civil War who wanted to avoid talking about slavery, race, and reconstruction. Also this week—paganism is on the rise. Who is really killing public schools? And women will win the battle of the sexes in 4.6 million years.



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Defined Terms to Know for This Week’s Interview

 

Millennium - The thousand year reign of Christ described in Revelation 20:1-8. There are basically three understandings of this:

  • Premillennialism - (Think Left Behind book series) Christians will be raptured, leaving behind everyone else. There will be a tribulation period with the rise of the Antichrist, mark of the beast, war, famine, earthquakes, etc. before Christ eventually comes and rules on earth for 1,000 years during which peace will reign. After one final rebellion, God will crush evil forever, offer a final judgment, and establish heaven and hell for eternity.

 

  • Postmillennialism - The millennium will come from the spiritual and moral influence of the Church through preaching and teaching. Conversions will increase and evil will diminish. In other words, Christians will make the world a better and better place and after that, Christ will come back, the dead will be resurrected, and there will be a final judgment

 

  • Amillennialism - The 1000 year period mentioned in Revelation does not refer to a specific period of time, but to the heavenly reign of Christ. Rev. 20 means the return of Christ will occur at the end of history. Sees Revelation as more symbolic than literal. 

 

Eschatology - The study of the end times - how history will end and Christ will come back to establish his eternal kingdom

 

Ecclesiology - the study of the church - its mission and structure as well as its place in God’s overall plan for the world



0:00 -  Intro

 

3:11 - Theme Song

 

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4:41 - The end of men?

 

13:48 - Dawn of the new pagans

 

32:52 - Public vs Private vs Homeschool Debate

 

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55:46 - Interview Intro

Daniel Hummel - https://www.danielghummel.com/

 

1:03:50 - Who is John Darby?

 

1:14:21- Dispensationalism advanced by the Civil War and Dwight Moody

 

1:35:21  - End Credits



Links mentioned in news segment:

 

Scientists divided over what will happen to men as Y chromosome is disappearing

https://www.unilad.com/news/is-the-y-chromosome-disappearing-077677-20230429

 

Dawn of the new pagans: ‘Everybody’s welcome – as long as you keep your clothes on!’

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/apr/27/dawn-of-the-new-pagans-everybodys-welcome-as-long-as-you-keep-your-clothes-on

 

How school choice drives America’s people of faith apart

https://religionnews.com/2023/04/19/how-school-choice-drives-americas-people-of-faith-apart/



Other resources:

The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism: How the Evangelical Battle over the End Times Shaped a Nation by Daniel Hummel

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