595: Iowa’s Satanic Panic & Finding Faith Amid Bad Religion with Todd Hunter
Release Date: 12/13/2023
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info_outlineThe Satanic Temple has been allowed to erect a temporary display in the Iowa State Capitol, provoking some conservative evangelicals to double-down on their commitment to Christian Nationalism, and others to rethink the scope of religious liberty. Kaitlyn responds to an article accusing her, and other authors, of promoting a “loser mindset” among Christians. And are Phil and Skye conspiring with a God-hating Hollywood producer to destroy the church? Then, how do we deal with the unique pain caused by bad church experiences? Bishop Todd Hunter discusses his new book, “What Jesus Intended: Finding True Faith in the Rubble of Bad Religion.”
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0:00 - Intro
1:15 - Show starts
3:32 - Theme Song
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5:03 - Rob Reiner Drama
23:56 - Satanic Display
39:43 - Does Kaitlyn have a loser mentality
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54:54 - Interview Intro
1:01:17 - Dealing with church hurt
1:11:03 - The Kingdom of God
1:23:12 - How to be a faithful participant in church
1:32:12 - End Credits
Links mentioned in news segment:
Rob Reiner will release a film about Christian nationalism. It includes A LOT of evangelical talking heads and “influencers”
Satanic displays have no place in government buildings
https://wng.org/opinions/satanic-displays-have-no-place-in-government-buildings-1702297793
Against the Loser Mentality
https://americanreformer.org/2023/09/against-the-loser-mentality/
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What Jesus Intended: Finding True Faith in the Rubble of Bad Religion by Todd Hunter
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