633: The Head Covering Comeback & Unsung Heroes with Jemar Tisby
Release Date: 09/04/2024
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info_outlineA very old trend is making a big comeback among Catholic women—veils. Is the turn toward head coverings rooted in Scripture, a desire for sacred symbols, a longing for traditional womanhood, or is it just a nostalgic fashion trend field by TikTok? A new study says what separates conservatives and liberals is how hierarchically they view the world and the importance of maintaining strict boundaries. And why are very conservative political personalities starting to talk more about Christian theology? Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn each offer their explanations. Then, Jemar Tisby is back to talk about his new book, “The Spirit of Justice,” and the remarkable stories of heroic, but largely forgotten, Christians in American history. Also this week—hurricanes are blowing cocaine.
0:00 - Intro
2:15 - Show Starts
4:08 - Theme Song
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7:05 - The Cocaine Hurricane Strikes
11:40 - Young Catholics Wearing Veils
21:13 - Do Difference between Liberal and Conservative Come Down to Boundary Lines?
26:03 - Chesterton’s Fence and Wisdom
36:31 - Why Are Right-Wing Political Pundits Invested in Looking for Heresy?
51:31 - Threats to Conservatism Treated as Threats to Christianity
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1:01:02 - Interview
1:03:12 - Why Did Jemar Tisby Write The Spirit of Justice?
1:09:04 - How Jamar Tisby Gathered Theological Resources
1:16:38 - How To Be Aware of Injustice
1:20:57 - Women of the Civil Rights Movement
1:27:47 - How to Seek Justice in Your Life
1:33:09 - End Credits
Links Mentioned in the News Segment:
The Young Catholic Women Bringing Back Veils:
https://www.thefp.com/p/the-young-catholic-women-bringing
Many Difference between Liberals and Conservatives May Boil Down to One Belief:
Other resources:
The Spirit of Justice: True Stories of Faith, Race, and Resistance:
https://a.co/d/dZG7UAb
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