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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
Release Date: 04/07/2025
The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
Aaron Levie is one of the most forward-thinking public company CEOs when it comes to enterprise adoption of AI. Aaron is the CEO of Box, the enterprise storage company that does over $1BN in revenue but only has a market cap of $3.2BN. Something we discuss today… AGENDA: 00:00 — Why the Experts are DEAD WRONG About the US-China AI Race 10:55 — Everyone is Wrong About Labour Markets: You Will Not Lose Your Job 13:10 — What Role Does Not Exist Today But Will Be So Common in 5 Years 16:45 — Is Your SaaS Tool Actually a Valueless Database in an Agentic World? 20:50 — The...
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Jake Paul is one of the most influential creators of the digital era, with over 70M+ followers across platforms. He transitioned from YouTube stardom to become one of the biggest pay-per-view draws in boxing history with fights against Mike Tyson and Anthony Joshua. Jake is also Co-Founder of Anti Fund, where he has made investments in Ramp, Anduril, Cognition and Olipop to name a few. Geoffrey Wu is a Co-Founder and Managing Partner at Anti Fund. He previously built his career at Goldman Sachs and Point72. He is at the forefront of a new model of investing—where distribution is as...
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AGENDA: 00:00 — Anthropic Unveils Mythos: The Model "Too Good at Hacking" to Release 05:56 — Why Mythos is a Quantum Leap in Cyber Risk 10:11 — The "Boy Who Cried Wolf": Jason’s Critique of Dario Amodei 14:00 — The Oppenheimer Moment: Are Founders Using Doom as a Marketing Tool? 19:22 — Amazon's $20B Secret: Is NVIDIA’s Chip Stranglehold Finally Loosening? 22:28 — Claude vs. Lovable & Replit: Anthropic Moves into App Building 25:24 — The 60% Death Spiral: Why Public SaaS Stocks are Entering a Doom Loop 39:51 — Meta Debuts Muse Spark: Alex Wang’s First Model from Super...
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Anj Midha is the founder of AMP, and a founding investor in Anthropic. Most recently, Anj was General Partner at Andreessen Horowitz, leading frontier AI investments. He serves on the boards of Mistral, Black Forest Labs, Sesame, LMArena, OpenRouter, Luma AI and Periodic Labs and is an early angel in ElevenLabs among others. Prior to that, Anj was the cofounder/CEO of Ubiquity6 (acquired by Discord) and a partner at Kleiner Perkins. AGENDA: 04:00 Why the "Scaling Laws are Dead" rumor is dangerously wrong 05:30 The 4 bottlenecks stopping us from reaching Super Intelligence 11:30 Where...
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Carles Reina is VP of Sales at ElevenLabs, where he was the first investor and fourth employee. Carles has scaled the revenue org from Day 1 to over $350M in just 3 years. Carles is also an active investor with investments in ElevenLabs, Revolut, Happy Robot and more. AGENDA: 00:00 - Is the Traditional CRO Dead in the Age of AI? 01:01 - Building the AI Sales Machine: Agents that Actually Generate Revenue 08:35 - Will AI Shrink the Sales Teams of the Future? 09:51 - The ElevenLabs Masterclass: Why We Set a 20x Sales Quota 11:00 - How to Structure Explosive Sales Accelerators 12:15 -...
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AGENDA: 03:59 — Anthropic Surpasses OpenAI in Revenue 12:43 — OpenAI Management Reboot 18:24 — OpenAI Buys TBPN 29:00 — SpaceX Files for IPO Targeting $2 Trillion Valuation 37:21 — Doug Leone Returns to Sequoia Capital 41:14 — YC Kicks Out Delve 45:21 — The Rise of Open Router 57:59 — Supabase Targeting $10B Valuation 01:08:18 — The Mercor Hack and AI Cyber Threats Moving Forward 01:17:25 — The $1.8B Two-Person Company
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Demis Hassabis is the Co-Founder & CEO of Google DeepMind - working on AGI, responsible for AI breakthroughs such as AlphaGo, the first program to beat the world champion at the game of Go; and AlphaFold, which cracked the 50-year grand challenge of protein structure prediction and was recognised with the 2024 Nobel Prize in Chemistry. Demis is revolutionising drug discovery at Isomorphic Labs. Ultimately, trying to understand the fundamental nature of reality. AGENDA: 00:04:00 — What Actually Counts as AGI; and Where Are We Today? 00:05:00 — What Are the Biggest Bottlenecks Holding AI...
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Andrew Dudum is the Founder and CEO of Hims, the company reshaping consumers relationship to healthcare. It has been a rocky ride over the last 6 months, the company is down 66%, their market cap today is $4.3BN on $2.3BN of revenue. They just bought their largest international competitor, Eucalyptus for $1.5BN. AGENDA: 00:00 — Why Being Public Is Better Than Private 02:50 — My Advice to The Collisons on Taking Stripe Public 07:15 — How to Hire for the Most Gritty People: The Test 10:55 — How AI Will Reshape All of Customer Acquisition 15:30 — What Did Hims Do...
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AGENDA: 00:00 — Anthropic’s Monster Month: 6 Billion in February Revenue 04:30 — The "Claude Mythos" Leak: 10 Trillion Parameters 11:50 — OpenAI Kills "Sora": A Massive Strategic Own Goal? 14:30 — OpenAI Hits $100M in Ads: Why OpenAI Must Make Ads Work 20:50 — Masa Son’s $40BN Bridge Loan: Investing More Into OpenAI 21:50 — Cybersecurity Stocks Tank: Is the Anthropic Panic Justified? 27:10 — The Golden Age of Cyber: Why AI Agents are a "Golden Goose" for Security 31:30 — Gross vs. Net: The Truth Behind AI Revenue Accounting 34:50 — The "Vibe Coding" Era: Reselling Tokens...
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Marc Andreessen is a Co-Founder and General Partner at Andreessen Horowitz. The firm now manages over $90BN and has invested in the likes of OpenAI, Airbnb, Coinbase, Anduril and many more. Marc is an innovator and creator, one of the few to pioneer a software category used by more than a billion people and one of the few to establish multiple billion-dollar companies. Marc co-created the Mosaic internet browser and co-founded Netscape (sold to AOL for $4.2 billion). He also co-founded Loudcloud, which as Opsware, sold to Hewlett-Packard for $1.6 billion. AGENDA: 05:00 — Why...
info_outlineErnest Garcia is the Co-Founder and CEO @ Carvana. Under Ernie’s leadership, Carvana went from a back-of-the-napkin idea to a $50+ billion public company, became the fastest-growing online used car retailer in U.S. history, and landed on the Fortune 500 in under 10 years. However, it was not all up and to the right, in 2022, the stock plummeted 99% to a market cap of just $400M. Today they are back with a market cap of $35BN, that is a 100x in the public markets and selling 400,000 cars sold annually, with a logistics network that rivals Amazon.
In Today’s Episode with Ernie Garcia We Discuss:
04:12 Are all great founders just “stubborn egomaniacs”?
06:55 How Carvana Almost Died on Several Occasions
08:46 Is Carvana’s Inability to get VC Funding a Sign the VC Model is Broken?
11:58 Operators vs. Strategists: What Hires Can Make or Break a Company?
21:46 Billionaire’s Biggest Lessons on Parenting
26:52 Is Life About Happiness or Achieving
32:21 The Reality of Being a Public Company CEO
39:07 Why Companies Should Go Public
43:55 Why You Should Price Your IPO to Perfection with No Pop
50:50 “What I Wish I Had Known About Debt in Building Carvana”
52:32 Quick Fire Round: Favourite CEO, Marriage Advice, Carvana in 10 Years