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How To Be A Fractional CMO | GIRTHYpod ep. 481 | Law Smith @LawSmithWorks & Eric Readinger

ROI Podcast™ — the #1 Entrepreneurial Business meets Comedy podcast hosted by Law Smith + Eric Readinger

Release Date: 03/11/2025

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Nothin’ says lovin’ like something from the oven... GIRTHY hosted by Law Smith @LawSmithWorks and Eric Readinger... Here's the episode description we totally wrote:
 
Let’s Talk Fractional CMOs: What They Are and Why They’re Awesome
🚀 Fractional CMO? What’s That?
Think of a fractional Chief Marketing Officer (CMO) as your business’s secret weapon. You get all the strategy, execution, and performance tracking of a full-time CMO—without the full-time price tag. It’s like renting a marketing genius instead of buying one.
Law Smith breaks it all down on Dean Waye’s podcast, where he spills the tea on what a fractional CMO actually does and why businesses need one. Spoiler alert: It’s about more than just fancy PowerPoints.
 
😂 Podcast Adventures: Kidney Stones & Resting B*tch Face
Law wasn’t exactly jazzed about doing a pre-interview for the podcast (who loves more meetings, right?), but he caved. And hey, it turned out great. He even poked fun at his "resting b*tch face" on camera and shared hydration tips to avoid kidney stones. (Marketing AND health advice? Multitasking king.
 
 
🔥 Day One as a Fractional CMO: Dream vs. Nightmare Scenarios
Dean Waye asked Law the big question: What’s your dream and nightmare first day as a fractional CMO?
Dream: An honest convo with clients who actually know what they want. A clear vision? Yes, please.
Nightmare: Clients who play hide-and-seek with crucial info or have no idea what they’re doing but expect miracles. (Pro tip: Don’t be that client.)
Oh, and fun fact—Law’s also a stand-up comedian. Turns out, making people laugh and fixing their marketing problems go hand-in-hand. Who knew?
 
 
🎤 Speaking to a Room Full of Fractional CMOs
Imagine Law on stage at a corporate event, dropping wisdom bombs to a crowd of new fractional CMOs:
👎 Red flag: Clients who won’t listen or are allergic to new ideas.
👍 Green flag: Clients who ask smart questions and actually care about results.
And here’s some free advice for entrepreneurs: FOLLOW YOUR OWN ADVICE. Seriously, don’t overcomplicate things or stand in your own way. (We’re looking at you, perfectionists.)
 
 
💡 Marketing Myths, AI, and Business Basics
At a recent conference, Law got real about what’s overrated and underrated in marketing.
❌ Overrated: Random tactics with no strategy.
✅ Underrated: Writing a simple business plan. Yep, even a napkin sketch works.
He also tackled the AI elephant in the room. Law compared it to a TI-83 calculator: super useful, but only if you know how to use it. And let’s not forget the time an AI robot lost its digital cool at a public event. (Yikes.)
 
 
🚗 The Cybertruck Debate
When asked about Tesla’s Cybertruck, Law didn’t hold back. Apparently, women either love or hate it. No in-between. And it’s not just a car—it’s a political statement, a personality test, and a giant meme all rolled into one.
 
 
📞 Want to Work With Law? Here’s How to Find Him
Law’s niche? Law firms and VC firms. (Get it? Law + Law Firms. Destiny much?)
Shoot him an email if you’re ready to get serious about marketing. And hey, if he’s not the right fit, he’ll point you to someone who is. Because that’s just how he rolls.
 
 
💬 Final Thoughts
Law wrapped it all up with some laughs, real talk, and a big thanks to Dean Waye and Heidi Treadwell for hosting the chat. If you’re not following Law yet, what are you even doing?
#ComedyPodcast #BusinessTips #AIHacks #Entrepreneurship #PopCulture #TechTrends
 
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