⚓️ Full Send Friday: Navy SEAL Aaron Peña on Real Estate Investing, The VA Loan "System," and Healing Invisible Wounds
Release Date: 12/26/2025
Rob Sweetman (Part 1): The Operator Syndrome, Sleep Science, and the Legacy of Navy SEAL Ryan Larkin
The Two-Promises Podcast
"They say SEAL training is the hardest training in the world... but the truth is, we're not robots." In the Season 3 premiere of this 3-part series, retired Navy SEAL Rob Sweetman joins host BD to debrief the inaugural Ryan Larkin Invitational Adventure Race (RLIAR)—a grueling 62-mile military simulation through the rugged Colorado Backcountry. Rob pulls back the curtain on the inspiration behind the race: the life, service, and tragic loss of his platoon mentor, Navy SEAL SO1 Ryan Francis Larkin. We explore how Ryan's death nearly a decade ago catalyzed Rob's life mission into Sleep Science...
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No Zero Days Team (Part 3): Hallucinations, 16-Pound Packs, and the "Desert Shuffle" – The RLIAR Final Debrief
The Two-Promises Podcast
"You don't conquer the mountain—you conquer the next ten feet." In this final series of our 3-part debrief on the Two Promises Podcast, Brent wraps up his roundtable with the No Zero Days race team (Sam Piccolotti, Sean Pechon, Matthew Anderson, and Jon Habert) following their performance in the Ryan Larkin Invitational Adventure Race (RLIAR) in the Colorado Backcountry. The crew gets brutally honest about the extreme physiological breakdown caused by heat, dehydration, and heavy packs in the backcountry. Jon Habert shares how physical exhaustion led to "audible mirages" and hearing...
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No Zero Days Team (Part 2): Lessons from the Canyon – Injury, Gear Reality Checks, and the Power of the Crew
The Two-Promises Podcast
"If your only focus is to finish, be careful—you might just end up with a t-shirt. If you aren't open and aware during the process, you miss the whole journey." In Part 2 of our 3-part debrief with the No Zero Days race team (Sam Piccolotti, Sean Pechon, Matthew Anderson, and Jon Habert), the crew offers an unfiltered, behind-the-scenes look at their experience during the Ryan Larkin Invitational Adventure Race (RLIAR) in the Colorado Backcountry. The team opens up about the brutal physical realities of navigating 62 miles of unforgiving alpine terrain from Montrose to Telluride....
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No Zero Days Return: Lessons from the Trail, Survival, & Brotherhood | RLIAR 2026
The Two-Promises Podcast
"This is the first event where I've ever had a 'Did Not Finish'... but looking back, we learned more about each other in the suck than anywhere else." The No Zero Days race team—Sam Piccolotti, Sean Pechon, Matthew Anderson, and Jon Habert—returns to the show following their brutal experience in the inaugural Ryan Larkin Invitational Adventure Race (RLIAR) across the rugged Colorado Backcountry. In this raw and transparent debrief, the team breaks down what really happened during their 62-mile military escape-and-evasion simulation from Montrose to Telluride. From pyrotechnic starts...
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Full Send: Hard Targets – Navy SEAL Juan "Gonzo" Gonzalez on Situational Awareness, Slow Growth, and the Business of Security
The Two-Promises Podcast
What does it mean to build a life of service that seamlessly bridges the gap between elite military execution and global corporate entrepreneurship? On this Full Send we pull together the complete, uncut conversation with retired Navy SEAL, former Army Airborne medic, and founder of Eagle Eye Protection, Juan "Gonzo" Gonzalez. Gonzo walks us through his foundational upbringing as a diplomat's son traveling throughout South and Central America, a cross-cultural immersion that inadvertently gifted him with acute situational awareness and street smarts by age 15. We track his tactical...
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No Zero Days Team: Age vs. Altitude – Experience, Endurance, and the Spirit of Ryan Larkin
The Two-Promises Podcast
"When you see us old guys out there doing the same thing the young guys are doing, just know we do it in a lot more pain." In this special roundtable episode, host BD sits down with the No Zero Days race team—Sam Piccolotti, Sean Pechon, Matthew Anderson, and Jon Habert—who are currently leading the fundraising leaderboard for the upcoming Ryan Larkin Invitational Adventure Race (RLIAR) in the Colorado Backcountry. Running from June 12–14, 2026, this extreme 3-day military simulation challenge tests 10 elite teams across 62 brutal miles of untamed wilderness from Montrose to...
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Full Send: Unbreakable – Cheyenne Zoelle on Surviving Generational Trauma and Fighting a Broken System
The Two-Promises Podcast
How do you find your footing and protect your peace when you grow up in an environment where safety simply doesn't exist? On this powerful Full Send, we feature author, advocate, and future mental health therapist Cheyenne Zoelle for a complete, raw conversation about survival, systemic failure, and the ultimate triumph of human resilience. Cheyenne opens up about the chilling realities documented in her memoir, Unbreakable. She shares her unconventional path of teaching herself to read using subtitles and product labels after being abruptly pulled out of school by an addicted parent. We...
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Full Send: The Absolute Cosmic Mindset – Defeating the Supervillain Within (Feat. Joshua Salgado)
The Two-Promises Podcast
What happens when your biggest enemy isn't the high-stress environment of a combat zone, but the reflection looking back at you in the mirror? On this special Full Send Episode, us and the crew bring you the complete, uncut conversation with active-duty military loadmaster, entrepreneur, and creator of Cosmic Absolute, Joshua Salgado. Fresh off a high-tempo deployment to the Horn of Africa, Josh drops straight into the studio to unpack the psychological shift of transitioning from elite military operations back to civilian life. We explore his incredible journey overcoming severe congenital...
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Joshua Salgado (Part 3): The Inner Villain, Side Quests, and the 250-Page Milestone
The Two-Promises Podcast
"I think the supervillain attacking Joshua Salgado is Joshua Salgado." In the final chapter of our 3-part series, Air Force Loadmaster and creator Joshua Salgado gets raw about the internal battle of self-doubt and the high stakes of independent world-building. Fresh off his second deployment, Josh discusses the "Refining Fire" of military life and how it sharpened his business strategy from a broad "machine gunner" approach to a "sniper" focus. He details the massive achievement of publishing a 256-page graphic novel for free, the upcoming launch of his limited-edition indie action figures,...
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Joshua Salgado (Part 2): The Sniper Mindset – IP World-Building, Military Waivers, and Facing the Inner Villain
The Two-Promises Podcast
How do you go from a kid born with bilateral club feet to an Air Force Loadmaster and independent comic book creator? In Part 2 of this series, Joshua Salgado, host of the Absolutely Cosmic Podcast, shares his journey of relentless persistence against administrative roadblocks and his strategic pivot from "machine gunner" to "sniper" in business. Josh discusses the origin story of his 256-page graphic novel, Tales of the Galactic Wanderer, and how he uses science fiction as an allegory to process high-level military intelligence briefs and personal trauma. We dive deep into the "radioactive...
info_outlineTransitioning out of the elite special operations community is like "learning a new language." In this comprehensive Full Send episode, former Navy SEAL Medic Aaron Peña joins the show to share his blueprint for a successful post-service life.
Aaron breaks down the exact system he used to turn his Basic Allowance for Housing (BAH) into a real estate portfolio using the VA Loan. We dive deep into the technical side of property acquisition—including house hacking multi-family units and VA loan entitlement—before shifting to the raw, personal reality of service. Aaron opens up about his battle with a life-threatening collapsed lung, the emotional toll of trauma in the Philippines, and his journey through the VA Renew Program. This is a masterclass in professional reinvention and personal resilience.
Key Topics
- The VA Loan wealth strategy and entitlement looping
- Transitioning from Navy SEAL Medic to real estate agent
- The four pillars of home inspection: roof, HVAC, plumbing, electrical
- Recovering from invisible wounds through the VA Renew Program
- Building a veteran community through a local FOB
- The all-in mentality and choosing family over rank progression
⏳ Timestamps
00:22 The identity crisis of transitioning out of uniform
02:57 Retiring at 20 years and the impact of absence on family
03:40 VA loan strategy and freeing up entitlement
04:58 House hacking using BAH instead of paying rent
06:50 Why VA loans work best on 1–4 unit properties
08:41 Using VA loan entitlement multiple times
11:00 New construction incentives and closing cost strategies
12:50 Feeling like a tourist at home after transition
15:30 Researching successful veterans before leaving service
21:21 Fatherhood, presence, prayer, and authenticity
24:50 The 9/11 catalyst and choosing the SEAL path
27:00 The undesignated grind before the pipeline
31:09 SOCM school and proving the instructors wrong
35:58 Combat medicine in the Philippines and mass casualty triage
46:51 Applying triage and SOPs to real estate
50:54 The BUD/S tread failure and composure under stress
63:22 Collaborating without ego while leading in Yemen
67:45 Mission over commission in real estate decisions
74:50 Building the FOB in St. Augustine, Florida
86:50 Processing the loss of a child casualty
89:13 The Renew Program and inpatient trauma recovery
93:33 The collapsed lung that nearly ended Aaron’s career
100:32 Burn the boats and committing to the next mission
About the Guest
Aaron Peña is a retired Navy SEAL Medic and First Phase Instructor who now serves as a Principal Real Estate Agent in Northeast Florida. He is the founder of the St. Augustine SEAL network (the FOB) and is dedicated to helping veterans and first responders leverage their benefits to achieve financial autonomy.
Connect with Aaron Peña:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aaron-pena73/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/aaron.pena.863363/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aaron_pena7/
Compass: https://www.compass.com/agents/aaron-pena/
If you are currently in a transition—whether it’s leaving the military or shifting your career—Aaron’s advice is simple: Commit without a plan B. Identify your next mission, find your community, and be humble enough to ask the questions that lead to growth.
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