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Watchmen

Release Date: 12/11/2019

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The voicemailers dominate this final mailbag edition of Shat on TV: Watchmen, with five callers sharing their opinions on everything from Dr. Manhattan to podcasts themselves. Plus, a King Bee critic calls in with an apology.

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Based on your letters and voicemail, "Watchmen" Episode 9 hit a home run. The season finale, "See How They Fly," satisfied viewers who wanted a story with few loose ends and a simple resolution. It also fueled tons of conversation about why Angela Abar ate the egg, what Europa meant to Adrian Veidt, and whether Lady Trieu was Trieuly Evil. 

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The season finale, "See How They Fly," inspired our last, longest and best "Watchmen" Deep Dive. Gene examines whether Doctor Manhattan committed suicide. Roger ponders why Angela Abar was so quick to gobble her magic egg. The King Bee worships at the altar of Ozymandias, and the three rate how well each character was used. 

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The Shat Crew provide their immediate reactions to the Watchmen season finale: Episode 9, "See How They Fly." The King Bee spotlights Jeremy Irons' exquisite performance as Adrian Veidt, while Roger Roeper says he was satisfied by not impressed. Gene mulls over the possibility Doctor Manhattan committed suicide by Trieu, and we learn the secret identity of Lube Man.

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"Watchmen" Episode 8 focused on Dr. Manhattan and Angela Abar, so we weren't surprised when your letters also centered around the two biggest characters in Damon Lindelof's new TV universe. Email and voicemail sparked conversation about tachyonic antitelephones, whether Topher's being fed mini-bites of blue goodness, and how Adrian Veidt still fits into the story. 

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Episode 8, "A God Walks into A Bar." A Watchmen Deep Dive told in three acts.

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The Shat Crew provide their immediate reactions to Watchmen Episode 8, "A God Walks into A Bar." Roger hails it as possibly the best episode yet, while Gene marvels at how the storytelling took him from rejection last week to absolute adoration this week. Plus, Adrian Veidt gracefully slips back into the story, and Roger announces the creation of the Shat on TV Store.

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Man, did we piss some people off! Listeners write in about what we got wrong with the Episode 7 Deep Dive, what we got right, and what the heck is happening at the Millenium Clock.

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Episode 7, "An Almost Religious Awe" delivered the biggest plot twists we've seen so far, but were they overly telegraphed? And are they true to the "Watchmen" spirit?

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The Shat Crew provide their immediate reactions to Watchmen Episode 7, "An Almost Religious Awe." Gene rolls his eyes at the flood of I-told-you-so tweets coming after the big blue reveal, and Roger spots Trieu tech in the Seventh Kavalry hideout. Also, Dr. Lyons explains mnemodialysis and begins to worry we might have an Avengers-type showdown on the horizon.

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Episode 8, "A God Walks into A Bar." A Watchmen Deep Dive told in three acts.

Act 1: Gene Lyons, a man who took two semesters of physics at Arizona State University, attempts to explain the string theory and bootstrap paradox of Dr. Manhattan's existence while also arguing that Will Reeves destroyed Cyclops on his own. Fast forward to Act 2 (34:00) if you don't care about retrocausality.

Act 2: Non-practicing Catholic Roger Roeper proves, once again, that any major TV character can be connected to Jesus Christ if you try hard enough. He also examines gods vs. men playing gods as he compares the archetypes presented in Ozymandias and Dr. Manhattan. Zip ahead to Act 3 (50:00) if the Bible doesn't interest you.

Act 3: The King Bee explores what Adrian Veidt's persecution in the post-credits scenes tells us about Europa and Veidt's motivations. Oh, and he takes a stab at the horseshoe thing. It's pretty good.

Watchmen Episode 8 Summary:

“A God Walks into A Bar” In Vietnam in 2009, Doctor Manhattan attempts to convince Angela to have dinner with him the next night, as they will fall in love later. Angela is highly skeptical, and Manhattan, after explaining his non-linear experience with time, explains that since 1985, he had been creating life on Europa, and that in 2019, he will fall in love with her just as he is about to be taken by the Seventh Kavalry. He explains how he took up the identity of Cal to blend in, and used a device created by Veidt to give him amnesia about his true identity until it was necessary for Angela to take it out. At Veidt's request, Manhattan transported him to the Europa environment, and also visited Will to encourage him to help Angela in 2019. Angela, speaking to Manhattan in 2019, asks him to ask Will in 2009 about how he knew of Judd's secrets, but realizes she created that idea to Will just now. As the Kavalry prepare to attack, Angela goes to protect Manhattan, who sees this as the moment he fell in love with her, and helps her fend them off, knowing one last Kavalry member remained alive to use a tachyon cannon to capture him. In 2009, Angela accepts Manhattan's dinner proposal. In a post-credit scene, the Game Warden gives a captive Veidt another anniversary cake, which Veidt finds a horseshoe baked inside, and in glee, starts to dig his escape.

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