#455 Chris Armas, former MLS Head Coach and Manchester United Asst. Coach, on Loving Your Players, Investing in Relationships, and Keeping an Optimistic Outlook on Life
Release Date: 11/13/2025
#466 Brad Stulberg, Author of The Way of Excellence, on Redefining Excellence, the Mindset of High Performance, Building Effective Habits, and Finding Meaning in it All
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Brad Stulberg researches, writes, and coaches on performance, well-being, and sustainable excellence. He is the bestselling author of The Practice of Groundedness and Master of Change, and coauthor of Peak Performance. Stulberg regularly contributes to the New York Times and his work has been featured in The Wall Street Journal and The Atlantic, among many other outlets. He serves as the co-host of the podcast “excellence, actually” and is on faculty at the University of Michigan. He is also the co-founder with Steve Magness...
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#465 What Would Your Yoda Say? Dr. Jim Loehr and Dr. Haley Perlus Join for a Conversation About Mindset, Coaching Your Inner Voice and the Importance of Gratitude
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Dr. Jim Loehr is a world-renowned performance psychologist, whose ground-breaking, science-based energy management training system has achieved worldwide recognition. He has authored 17 books and worked with hundreds of world-class performers from the arenas of sport, business, medicine and law enforcement, including Fortune 100 executives, FBI Hostage Rescue Teams, and military Special Forces. Dr. Loehr has worked with hundreds of elite sports clients including 17 number ones in the world in their respective sports, multiple clients from professional tennis, golf, basketball, football,...
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#464 Cara Stawicki, Mental Performance Coach and 2019 World Champion Rower
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Cara Stawicki (@carastawicki) is a World Champion rower with nearly 20 years of competitive experience, including multiple World Rowing Championships and national team selections. Drawing on her firsthand understanding of high-level athletic performance, she now supports high-striving athletes and professionals in reaching their full potential through executive and mental performance coaching. She is an ICF ACC-certified coach who has completed advanced PCC-level training and holds a Master’s degree in Health and Human Performance. Her approach blends evidence-based coaching methods...
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#463 Tom Farrey, Executive Director of Aspen Institute Sports and Society Program, on Achievable Steps to Get More Kids Playing Sports, Build Facilities, and Educate Coaches
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Tom Farrey is the founder and executive director of the Aspen Institute’s Sports & Society Program, which he launched in 2011 to convene leaders, facilitate dialogue, and inspire solutions that help sports serve the public interest. He is best known for creating Project Play, the program’s flagship initiative that develops and shares knowledge to grow youth sports participation. Since 2013, Project Play has mobilized more than 20,000 organizations and helped unlock over $60 million in grants for grassroots programs. A former Emmy-winning investigative journalist at ESPN, Farrey...
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#462 Joey Leonardo, 2026 Freeride World Tour Skier, on his Unique Pathway to Becoming a Professional Big Mountain Skier
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Joey Leonardo (@j.bag_) is a professional freeride skier from Edwards, Colorado, who has officially qualified as a rookie for the 2026 Freeride World Tour (FWT). Joey qualified for the 2026 tour by finishing second in the Americas series of qualifiers in the winter of 2025. in 2020, he won the Freeride Junior World Championships, and then spent the last 4 years getting a degree from Montana State University and largely disappearing from the freeride circuit. He came back with a vengeance in 2025, having to talk his way into an early qualifying event before his excellent skiing sent him on the...
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#461 Linda Flanagan: How Money and Mania Have Ruined Kids Sports, Why it Matters, and How to Take Back the Game (replay)
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After a recent visit to the US House of Representatives, John has been thinking a lot about the business of youth sports and how we can fix the many issues plaguing it. In this replay of episode 293, John has a discussion with Linda Flanagan a freelance journalist, researcher, and former cross-country and track coach. A founding board member of the NYC chapter of the Positive Coaching Alliance and 2020-21 Advisory Group member for the Aspen Institute’s Reimagining Sports initiative, her writing on sports has appeared in The Atlantic, Runner's World, and NPR's education site Mind/Shift, where...
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#460 Joe Baker, Author of "The Tyranny of Talent" on Defining, Identifying, and Developing Talent While Never Losing Sight of Long Term Engagement
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Dr. Joe Baker (@bakerjtoronto) is the Tanenbaum Research Chair at the University of Toronto, Canada. He is a world-leader in research on talent identification, developing sport expertise, relative age effect, and high performance athlete development and has held visiting researcher/professor positions in the United Kingdom, Australia and Germany. His research considers the varying influences on optimal human development, ranging from issues affecting athlete development and skill acquisition to barriers and facilitators of optimal aging. Joe is author/editor of 9 books and hundreds of peer...
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#459 Harrsion Bernstein, Founder of Soldiers to Sidelines, on Giving our Former Soldiers the Ability to Serve Again Through Coaching
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Harrison Bernstein is the founder of Soldiers To Sidelines (STS) and has served as executive director since May 2014. STS evolved from a passion project to a burgeoning nonprofit once Harrison resigned from coaching college and professional football to focus 100% on the STS mission. Harrison was able to attract key advisors and officers to help steward the mission. Since 2018, the board has grown to over 21 leaders in the military, sports, and business, and has built a staff of 9 employees. Harrison led his team to develop key partners and sponsors such as USO, Team RWB, Wounded Warrior...
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#458 Gary Gait, Syracuse University Men's Lacrosse Head Coach: "It's not men's or women's lacrosse. it's just lacrosse."
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Jerry and John are so thrilled to welcome back Gary Gait to the podcast. Gait is widely considered the greatest men’s lacrosse player of all time, and his remarkable playing career features a winning theme at every level. A three-time NCAA Champion, Gait led Syracuse's most dominant stretch in program history, losing just one game in three seasons from 1988-90. He is a two-time recipient of the Lt. Raymond J. Enners Award, presented annually to the nation's most outstanding player, and was the NCAA Championship Most Outstanding Player on a team considered to be the greatest ever...
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#457 John Lind, Sweden Ice Hockey Director of Education and Research, on Developing as Many Kids as Possible, as Long as Possible, in the Best Environment Possible
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John Lind is the Director of Education and Research at the Swedish Ice Hockey Association. He has a background as a player at the junior national team level and later worked as a coach and manger within Swedish ice hockey before taking on his current role at the Association. John is part of IIHF:s advisory group on education, as well as part of the TIDES Network, a group of international researchers who aims to conduct research and provide practical guidelines on talent identification in sports. John has co-authored studies in both psychology and physiology, with a particular focus on research...
info_outlineChris Armas is a 2025 inductee into the US Soccer Hall of Fame. During his playing career, he played 12 seasons in Major League Soccer for the LA Galaxy and Chicago Fire, and was a 5x MLS Best XI selection, an MLS and US Open Cup Champion, and played 66 games for the US National Team. The 2000 US Soccer Player of the Year and 2005 MLS Comeback Player of the Year, untimely injuries derailed his inclusion in the 2002 and 2006 US World Cup teams.
After retireing from playing, Chris began a coaching career that has taken him to assistant coach roles at Manchester United and Leeds United, as well as MLS Head Coaching stops with the NY Red Bulls (2018 Supporters Shield winners), Toronto FC, and in 2024-2025 the Colorado Rapids. In 2024, he led the Rapids to a remarkable improvement of 23 points, finishing 7th after finishing dead last in 2023. For this he was named an MLSCoach of the Year finalist. In 2025, the Rapids missed out on the playoffs on the final day, and Armas and the Rapids agreed to part ways.
In our conversation today, Chris and John discuss the importance of building strong relationships with athletes, establishing trust, and helping each player get better. We discuss his time in England, meeting Sir Alex Ferguson, the British press, and his time in Colorado including the the joys of 2024 and the heartbreak of missing out on the 2025 players due to a stoppage time goal. You will see that Chris is humble, authentic, and driven to keep coaching and learning, and its a wonderful conversation to understand the humanity needed to coach at the top level.
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