Mark Gober | The End of Upside Down Thinking: New Science Flips The "Reality" We Think Is Real...
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Release Date: 02/18/2025
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Anne-Laure Le Cunff | Stop Living Someone Else's Life: How to Break Free from The Hidden Scripts Controlling You
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LLS | Speak Like the Top 1%: These 5 Common Words Are Secretly Sabotaging Your Success
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Wellness + Wisdom: Liberated Life Series | Episode 731 Wellness + Wisdom Podcast Host, , and the Liberated Life Series Co-Host, , delve into the profound impact of self-talk, the power of language in shaping our mental states, and the most common disempowering phrases that everyone uses on a daily basis. We ALL have problems. Stop hiding. Start living life liberated. Learn how to set yourself free from self-sabotage, limiting beliefs, thoughts + behaviors so you will have lifelong confidence + clarity of purpose through a thriving community + practical tools, guiding you to play a new reality...
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Brian Richards | The Science Behind Infrared Saunas: Can Near-Infrared Light Repair Your DNA?
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Wellness + Wisdom | Episode 730 Could your DNA hold a hidden superpower that’s just waiting to be activated by light? Brian Richards, Founder of , joins Josh Trent on the Wellness + Wisdom Podcast, episode 730, to uncover how near-infrared saunas can help cleanse toxins, support brain function, and even raise your vibrational frequency, and why embracing your innate power to heal is the ultimate path to true freedom. "One of the effects of photobiomodulation is to correct gene transcription = how the DNA is read. The DNA and the epigenetics are being fixed in a much more powerful way...
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Josh Trent | How To Break the Cycle: Emotional Regulation, Nervous System Healing + Inner Child Work
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Vasavi Kumar | Say It Out Loud: How To Use The Power of Your Voice To Hear Your Soul + Courageously Pursue Your Dreams
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Bizzie Gold | Your Brain Is A Filthy Liar: How To Heal Your Childhood Wounds + Break Free From Self-Sabotage (AKA: Self-Deception)
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Is the very fabric of our reality rooted in consciousness and are we missing its true power?
Mark Gober, joins Josh Trent on the Wellness + Wisdom Podcast, episode 716, to uncover why our minds are more than just physical organs, how unseen forces shape our everyday experiences, and what it really means to live in alignment with our soul’s purpose.
"All reality is consciousness which means there's one source of everything, there's one cause of everything. That means that all thinking comes from the oneness of consciousness. You exist as an individual and you don't at the same time." - Mark Gober
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In This Episode, Mark Gober Uncovers:
[01:15] Brain + Consciousness
- Mark Gober
- Where consciousness comes from.
- How the brain is connected to consciousness.
- Why we are a vehicle of consciousness.
- An End to the Upside Down Thinking by Mark Gober
- An End to the Upside Down Cosmos by Mark Gober
[04:15] The Unlimited Possibilities of Reality
- 301 Cory Allen: Now Is The Way
- How the brain processes consciousness and affects how we perceive the world.
- Why acknowledging the possibilities of reality can make us happier.
- How Mark was agnostic until he was 30.
- Laura Powers
- Why he opened up to new possibilities and needed to pursue a different path.
[14:05] Why Do We Exist?
- How patents cover novel ideas that have never been done in the past.
- What led Mark to leave his career in investment banking.
- How he didn't feel like his decision to leave his job wasn't risky.
[19:15] The Purpose of Suffering
- How Mark questioned God and the human existence when he was young.
- Why his previous career prepared him to do what he does now.
- An End to Upside Down Medicine by Mark Gober
- What the true purpose of suffering is.
- What the Bleep Do We Know!? (2014)
[24:55] Low-Frequency Emotions
- How our consciousness shapes our reality.
- Why we can't understand God.
- How time is a construct of the mind.
- Dr. David Hawkins
- Why it's natural to feel low-frequency emotions.
- How the growth process allows us to move through negative emotions faster and with understanding.
[33:15] What Keeps You Humble?
- Why there is more to life after we die.
- How research is a humbling process for Mark.
- Why he questions conventional medicine.
- Where Is My Mind? Podcast
[38:45] Consciousness Is Fundamental
- Why experience can stand the test of time.
- The simplest solution is usually the best.
- Why consciousness is the only thing we know with certainty.
- How we can explain all reality with consciousness.
- 692 Paul Chek | Spirit Gym: How To Find The Truth of Your Soul + Live Your Dream
[42:10] Play A New Game
- How Josh defined what game he wants to play.
- Why Mark wants to share his discoveries and wisdom with others.
- How questioning paradigms helps him learn and grow.
[47:30] Everything Happens FOR You
- Why we need to take responsibility for the things that happen.
- How experiencing a feeling fully helps us let go of it.
- Why our lineage influences our lives.
[50:35] Does Language Shape Reality?
- Why people can't describe near-death experiences or plant medicine journeys with words.
- An End to Upside Down Contact by Mark Gober
- Why people communicate with extraterrestrial beings telepathically.
- How to use language consciously.
- Why Mark struggles with the possibility of misleading other people.
[55:35] What Is Thinking?
- How we experience thoughts.
- Why what we know about thinking are only hypotheses.
- How all thinking comes from the same source of consciousness.
- The Science of Channeling by Helane Wahbeh + Eben Alexander
- Why we can channel an entity outside of ourselves.
- How our thoughts might not always be our own.
[01:00:45] The Purpose of Evil Entities
- Why we receive more metaphysical support as we expand our consciousness.
- How we get possessed by demons or entities.
- 430 Zach Bush MD | Sacred Commerce & Community: How To Thrive In 2022
- Why evil entities cause chaos so that we can find order.
- I Am Serena by Serena Faith Masterson
- How our souls choose difficult paths to learn how to help other people.
[01:06:40] Challenge The Norm
- 634 Dr. John Demartini | Human Potential: Your Practical + Spiritual Guide To Getting The Life You Desire
- 624 Teal Swan | Ancestral Healing: Multidimensional Genetics, Conscious Parenting + The Impossible Task of Single Mothers
- How Mark has to face the people who will go against the information that he shares.
- An End to Upside Down Liberty by Mark Gober
- How challenging the political system was the most challenging for Mark.
- Why only a few people in our society have special privileges.
- How democracy is a form of tyranny and violates natural law.
[01:12:25] The Truth About The Government
- Most Dangerous Superstition by Larken Rose
- Mises Institute
- Why people are too irresponsible to be trusted.
- How government is a service provider.
- Why near-death experiences change people's lives.
- How we review our lives when we die and become the person we impacted the most.
- Dannion Brinkley
- After by Bruce Greyson
- How we treat other people should be informed by the fact that we are all one.
[01:22:25] We Are Not Truly Free
- Crimson Tide (1995)
- Why we should do no harm to anyone's private property.
- How taxation is an organized theft.
- Why the tax system violates natural law by being involuntary.
- How the political system is a monopoly.
[01:31:35] How To Become Liberated
- Why we don't truly own anything.
- How shifting our consciousness is what sets us free.
- Why anarcho-capitalism is the answer to having more freedom.
- How our problems are not being solved by the current system.
- Why we need to realize the government doesn't provide safety.
[01:37:35] The Dangers of Pseudo-Science
- Why seeking the truth may reveal what we didn't want to find.
- How AI is biased towards the mainstream narratives.
- Why the scientific methods of studying virology are not accurate.
- The role of isolation in virology.
- Why the method of virus research hasn't changed since the 1950s.
[01:44:20] The End of Upside Down Thinking
- 312 Kevin Kelly: What Technology Can Teach Us About Self Love
- How AI is a reflection of the collective consciousness.
- 714 Ben Stewart | Story Creates Reality: How Can We Awaken In The Midst of Crisis + Write A New Story For Humanity?
- How data provides a great business opportunity.
- Why we need courage to ask better questions.
- How our conscious experience in this moment right now is the only thing we can be sure of.
[01:51:00] The Path of Evolution
- How to get through fear.
- Why we can't stay a slave to our physiology.
- The four paths of evolution according to yogic teachings.
- Why we need to experience the opposite of what we want to know what we want.
[01:57:05] The Essence of Wellness
- Why darkness is what allows us to see the light.
- Wellness is living in alignment with our soul purpose.
- How our consciousness impacts our physical health.
- Why financial well-being is essential in our growth.
- The importance of being comfortable with not knowing the answer.
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Power Quotes From The Show
The Body Is Consciousness
"If everything's consciousness, how could there be a brain that's receiving consciousness? That's implying the separation that might not be there. Maybe the brain is picking up consciousness from beyond the body, which means that a human being is a vehicle or a vessel of consciousness on one level. And on another level, the body itself might be consciousness." - Mark Gober
Consciousness Creates Reality
"If everything is consciousness, then everything is malleable to some degree. And therefore the way in which we direct our consciousness in theory, is going to affect reality because reality is consciousness and nothing's actually physical." - Mark Gober
Time Is a Construct of The Mind
"The sequence of past to present to future, or beginning, middle, and end, is a construct of the mind. If we think about the past, it's a memory. It doesn't exist. It's just something in our mind right now. And the future is the same thing. It's something we hold in our mind right now, and the present is something we hold in our mind right now." - Mark Gober
Links From Today's Show
- Mark Gober
- An End to the Upside Down Thinking by Mark Gober
- An End to the Upside Down Cosmos by Mark Gober
- 301 Cory Allen: Now Is The Way
- Laura Powers
- An End to Upside Down Medicine by Mark Gober
- What the Bleep Do We Know!? (2014)
- Dr. David Hawkins
- Where Is My Mind? Podcast
- 692 Paul Chek | Spirit Gym: How To Find The Truth of Your Soul + Live Your Dream
- An End to Upside Down Contact by Mark Gober
- The Science of Channeling by Helane Wahbeh + Eben Alexander
- 430 Zach Bush MD | Sacred Commerce & Community: How To Thrive In 2022
- I Am Serena by Serena Faith Masterson
- 634 Dr. John Demartini | Human Potential: Your Practical + Spiritual Guide To Getting The Life You Desire
- 624 Teal Swan | Ancestral Healing: Multidimensional Genetics, Conscious Parenting + The Impossible Task of Single Mothers
- An End to Upside Down Liberty by Mark Gober
- Most Dangerous Superstition by Larken Rose
- Mises Institute
- Dannion Brinkley
- After by Bruce Greyson
- Crimson Tide (1995)
- 312 Kevin Kelly: What Technology Can Teach Us About Self Love
- 714 Ben Stewart | Story Creates Reality: How Can We Awaken In The Midst of Crisis + Write A New Story For Humanity?
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About Mark Gober
Mark Gober is the award-winning author of the "Upside Down" series of 7 books published since 2018.
The books span the topics of consciousness, politics, economics, medicine, cosmology, and more. He also produced the popular 8-episode podcast series "Where Is My Mind?" with Blue Duck Media.
Previously, Mark worked in investment banking in New York with UBS and was a Partner at Sherpa Technology Group in Silicon Valley.
He graduated magna cum laude from Princeton where was elected a captain of the tennis team. Mark also serves on the Board of Directors for the Institute of Noetic Sciences.