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Transforming American Schools - Michelle Rhee's Vision for Education Reform

What I Want to Know with Kevin P. Chavous

Release Date: 11/13/2024

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What I Want to Know with Kevin P. Chavous

In this episode of What I Want to Know, host Kevin P. Chavous sits down with Shaka Mitchell, Senior Fellow at the American Federation for Children and a national leader in education reform. From classrooms to courtrooms, Shaka has been at the center of the fight for school choice, charter schools, and equitable education policy. Together, they explore whether choice truly expands opportunity, how legislation is reshaping access, and what the future of education innovation might look like. Chapters [00:00] Introduction & framing the debate [01:10] Shaka Mitchell’s personal education story...

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Every once in a while, there's a story that stops you in your tracks - a reminder of what's possible when someone refuses to let their circumstances define them. In this episode, host Kevin P. Chavous shares one of those stories with David Heiber, CEO and founder of Concentric. David's journey reads like something out of a movie: from serving time in prison to earning a doctorate, from being pushed out of the education system to helping over 70,000 students find their way back in. This isn't just a conversation about second chances—it's about what happens when someone decides to go against...

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Corey DeAngelis joins Kevin P. Chavous to unpack the rapid rise of the education freedom movement. They explore school choice’s impact on public schools, bipartisan momentum, the role of teachers’ unions, and how personalized learning will reshape education’s future. Corey DeAngelis is a leading voice in the school choice movement, a researcher, author, and advocate for giving parents control over their children’s education. He currently serves as a senior fellow at the American Federation for Children and is affiliated with multiple education policy think tanks.   Chapters 00:00...

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Kris Stewart leads Ohio Virtual Academy, the largest high school in the state and one of just two virtual schools in the U.S. with a RAMP-certified counseling program. With 17,000 students and 750 staff, she’s proving that online learning can deliver real connection, support, and results. In this episode, Kris joins Kevin to share how her team tracks student well-being daily, supports mental health with wraparound services, and helps students earn industry credentials before they even graduate. She also explains how AI, co-teaching pods, and intentional leadership keep students engaged and...

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In this episode, Kevin sits down with Jennifer Kolb, Vice President of Workforce Development at MedCerts, to examine a growing question: What if college isn’t the only path to a good career? They dive into how MedCerts is helping high school students land well-paying jobs in healthcare—no four-year degree required. From AI-powered training to employer-backed certifications, Jen shares how this new model is reshaping how students prepare for work, and why school systems—and employers—are paying attention. They also unpack the rise of career exploration in high school, how virtual...

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In this episode, Kevin sits down with Vida Williams, Chief Data Officer at Stride, to explore the promise—and risks—of artificial intelligence in education. From personalized tutoring to curatorial learning, they dive into how AI is reshaping what it means to teach, learn, and build trust in a digital world. They discuss how AI can reduce teacher overload, personalize instruction, and expand access—but also unpack why how we build it matters as much as what we build. And in a world where machines are getting better at guiding student learning, they ask a fundamental question: What’s...

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Public dollars. Private schools. Political firestorms. In this episode, Kevin talks with long-time school choice advocate John Schilling about what happens when education funding follows the student instead of the system. They dig into the proposed federal scholarship tax credit: what it is, who it helps, and why supporters say it's about opportunity—not ideology. Opponents fear it's the beginning of the end for public schools. Advocates say it's already helping students, especially those in underserved communities. From Florida’s model programs to Washington’s sharp divisions, this...

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We’re re-releasing this episode because the questions it raises are more relevant than ever. In 2025, as technology transforms how students learn and entire industries evolve, the role of educators is shifting rapidly. Classrooms are becoming more digital, expectations more complex, and the pressure to keep students engaged—and prepared for the future—has never been greater. Yet, many teachers are stepping away. According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, nearly half of public education employees who leave the field aren’t retiring or laid off. They’re choosing to resign. Amid...

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This is an encore episode — and with good reason. As the school year winds down and summer approaches, the “summer slide” — the loss of academic progress over the break — becomes a very real concern once again. Without intentional learning opportunities, students can lose ground they’ve worked hard to gain, making each new year harder than the last. In this conversation, Kevin revisits a timely discussion with Aaron Dworkin, CEO of the National Summer Learning Association, about how the right summer programs don’t just prevent learning loss — they help students come back...

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College. Careers. Credentials. Teens today are facing big decisions—and most don’t even know where to start. In this episode, Kevin P.Chavous talks with Allison Danielsen, CEO of Tallo, about why the old ways of guiding students—career quizzes, outdated job charts, one-size-fits-all advice—no longer cut it. Allison’s team is building a digital career co-pilot designed to help Gen Z explore real career paths, learn relevant skills, and connect directly with schools, scholarships, and employers. They discuss why most career journeys aren’t linear (including Allison’s own winding...

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In today's rapidly changing educational landscape, how do we transform our schools to truly prepare students for the future? And what role does technology play in bridging educational gaps? In an era of increasing polarization, one education reformer offers insights on bringing innovation to America's classrooms.

Joining Kevin P. Chavous today is Michelle Rhee, former Chancellor of Washington D.C. Public Schools and a prominent voice in education reform. Through her current work with Equal Opportunity Ventures, she's helping identify and support innovative solutions that can transform education and promote social mobility.

Michelle shares her journey from privileged schooling to becoming an education reform advocate, discussing the challenges of implementing systemic change and her renewed optimism about technology's role in reshaping education.

Key Topics: 

00:00: Introduction and Michelle Rhee's background 

02:33: Early motivations for entering education reform 

04:05: Experience as D.C. Schools Chancellor 

06:30: Lessons learned in education leadership 

09:10: Current work with Equal Opportunity Ventures 

11:45: Technology's role in educational innovation 

13:20: Bridging political divides in education reform



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