Beyond Consent: Rethinking Sex, Power, and Justice - a conversation with Danielle Tumminio Hansen
Release Date: 08/06/2025
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This episode discusses rape, sexual assault, purity culture, childhood sexual harm, and childbirth trauma. Listener discretion is advised.
In this deeply moving and thought-provoking conversation, EDJ is joined by theologian and author Danielle Tumminio Hansen to explore how our language, theology, and justice systems often fail survivors of sexual harm. Drawing from her groundbreaking book Speaking of Rape, Danielle discusses the need to reframe how we talk about rape, the myths of the "perfect victim" and the "obvious perpetrator," and the damaging intersections between purity culture and rape culture.
This episode also tackles the importance of sex education, why impact matters more than intent, how restorative justice offers an alternative to punishment-based systems, and what it means to raise children with justice and empathy in mind. Danielle shares from her own story with remarkable vulnerability, offering theological, psychological, and cultural insight thatโs both challenging and deeply hopeful.
Topics Discussed:
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Why our words around sexual harm often fall short
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The myths of the "perfect victim" and "clear perpetrator"
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How purity culture contributes to victim-blaming
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Redefining rape through agency, power, and desire
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The role of sex education in prevention
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Restorative justice vs. retributive justice
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Why survivors' stories reshape culture
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Teaching justice through parenting
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Autonomy, agency, and interdependence
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Understanding impact over intent
Resources Mentioned:
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Speaking of Rape by Danielle Tumminio Hansen
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South of Forgiveness by Thordis Elva & Tom Stranger
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Know My Name by Chanel Miller
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Works by theologian Sally McFague and philosopher Linda Alcoff
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Research on contact theory and restorative justice
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RAINN (Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network)
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