From Bankruptcy to Barefoot: A Journey Through Wine Industry Hard Knocks
Release Date: 03/03/2026
Wine Talks with Paul K.
I am proud when I say I was born in Inglewood, California. So were Li and Leslie Jones. When I was 5 or 6 years old, my father would take me to work as I sat and stamped brochures with the name Van Ness Pharmacy. Then the perscription driver would take me to Daniel Freeman Elementary School. I say that with all the reverence in the world for the process; I learned work ethic. When I heard that there was a wine bar that primarily served wines from black owned wineries and was catgering to a fnew crowd of black wine enthusiasts and in Inglewood, I had to hear more. And Li and Leslie Jones did...
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I watch social daily. I guess we all have to. Besides the interaction with peers, it keeps you aware of what people are thinking and doing. Once you get past the chaf and get to the honest opinions and outlooks, you get folks like Molly Bossardt. I reached out to her to get a glimpse of what she is thinking and doing in our trade. Have a listen. Molly Bassard proves that you don’t have to be born in Napa or Bordeaux to turn the wine world on its digital head. When she launched Bread and Butter in the thick of 2020, Molly saw what many in the wine trade still missed: wineries...
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Relentless in her pursuits would be an understatement because Kerrin Laz is a force of nature. Kerrin is the type of person the wine trade needs...now. She is chock full of energy, a plethora of ideas, and a cavalcade of pathways to get there. She will be on the show again; there were too many subjects we never discussed. Sitting down with Kerrin Laz was like flipping open a well-loved journal and discovering a handful of stories you’d forgotten you needed to hear. There’s a warmth to the East Coast energy she carries with her, this tenacity blended with familiarity—sort of like...
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She is the real deal. Isis Daniels, The Millenial Somm, can tell it like it is. There is no "fluff"here, just the facts maam. I was taken not only by her level of expertise but also by her ability to convey honest positions with honest feelings; a bit rare in today's social-network society. In other words, this is no AI Somm. When you invite ISIS Daniels, the Millennial Somm herself, into your headphones, you’d best expect more than wine talk—you’re headed for a technicolor journey through bottles and generations, biases and breakthroughs. You’ll quickly discover ISIS Daniels isn’t...
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I am a sparkling wine lover. I think sparkling wine should be part of everyones repetoir; not for celebrations...for dinner, for lunch, for anytime. Certainly, one issue with sparkling wine is the price. One of the most popular Champagnes in the world, Veuve Clicquot, is $60.00/bottle! But then you see La Marca sparkling at $14.00/bottle. What is a consumer to do? One conversation with Anna Lopez of Gramora clears it all up. When you meet someone as devoted to their craft as Anna Lopez, you realize immediately that wine is more than a drink—it’s a philosophy of patience,...
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There has been an uptick in wine media. The series "Drops of God" has raised an eyebrow. It has become quite common when I am speaking about wine that someone asks if I have seen the show. I have been horrified by some of the work I have seen on-line and even on an airline. Just when the industry is reevaluating where it needs to go, ghastly footage shows up in the medai...have we no understanding of what the people want to see? Film is story telling...and Chris McGilvray is keenly aware of this. Though he was focused on corporate productions in the Silicon Valley, the opportunity...
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It is impossible to speak of the wines from Spain...at least the famous ones, without speaking about 1.) the Ribero del Duero and 2.) Vega Sicilia. When Wine Talks was asked to join a lunch at the Berverly Hilton Hotel and sit with Pable Alvarez, we responded with "Yes, please." Pablo Alvarez is the kind of guest who logs 135 days a year circling the globe, sharing bottles and stories that most of us only dream of tasting. You will come away with far more than just a sense of Spanish terroir—you’ll get a rare look into the evolution of Vega Sicilia, Spain’s most iconic and enigmatic...
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It is crazy interesting to me that a winery as young as Quintus, in such an established and historical area as Saint Emilion, can make such waves when virtually in it's infancy as a winery. Michel Roland (we just lost him), the famed oenologist once told a friend of mine that now that it is established she can grow wine grapes at her vineyard, it will take 100 years to know what it really can do. Enter the Chateau Quintus, a winery in the famed Right Bank Bordeaux appelation; Saint Emilion. The fertile ground where Chateau Cheval Blanc, Chateau Angelus and Petrus call home, is now the...
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When I recorded this episode, Trevor was the Director and Head Winemaker of the famed Beaulieu Vineyards. And, one of the reasons I ventured into a corporate winery podcast, was that very reason. I wanted to peel back the idea of a such an iconic winery becoming corporate and how much the "Board" had to do with the decision making; in other words, can a winery maintain its boutique expression despite having a huge beauracracy working in the background. Trevor Durling is now with Darioush and Nate Weiss has taken the helm (recently at Silver Oak). Trevor Duling is the kind of winemaker who...
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Wine is experiential. It is what the industry has to hang its hat on. Each glass needs to conjure up emotion, memories and a sense of being. My father bought his wine shop in 1969 and a started his academic journey to understand and promote wine. He took master classes before they were masterclasses: German Wine Academy, the Italian Wine Consortium and many more. He was a learner. So when he was telling me a story about one of the most emotional wines he had ever tasted, and how he had waited in a long line to get a thimblefull of a taste, it was required listening. That day at a...
info_outlineThis is a true story. in 1989, Michael Houlihan came to my office. He had a vision of wine brand (the story of why he had a vision is crazy in itself).
He wanted to create a wine named Barefoot Cellars. He had found the name from a deunct brand and had gone to the owner to ask to buy the name.
He also wanted to call it the "Chateau La Feet" of California wine. I was annoyed.
After I left, I called my father to tell him this crazy idea, "it will never work" I said. Today, Barefoot is the largest brand in America. Moral of the story: Don't listen to me.
Mike Houlihan might be the only guest who walked into a bankrupt winery hoping to collect $300,000, and walked out with the ingredients to launch America’s largest wine brand. You’ll discover how Mike Houlihan and Bonnie Harvey took their outsider wisdom—and perhaps a little moxie—and transformed bare feet, old tanks, and a rickety bottling machine into an empire rivaling Robert Mondavi and winning over Trader Joe’s and Kroger buyers from coast to coast. This isn’t another vineyard romance—this is gritty, real entrepreneurship. You’ll learn the salty secrets of wine buyers (“make it better than Bob, cheaper than Bob, and put it in a pig!”), the art of selling to mom-and-pop shops when big chains slam the door, and the critical merchandising strategies that made their bottle shine from four feet away (just as the buyer demanded). If you ever wondered what it takes to turn hardship into hustle—or how you can build a business legacy on persistence and soft skills, not just spreadsheets—Mike Houlihan and Bonnie Harvey peel back the curtain, sharing lessons that apply far beyond the wine aisle. Expect stories about bottling gone wrong, the challenges of excise taxes, and the colorful cast of wine industry characters. You’ll walk away knowing why sincerity, face-to-face connection, and caring for the people in “low places” are the true keys to scaling a business—and why their journey is now taught in universities across the globe. This episode distills decades of learning, from humble beginnings to bestselling audiobooks, written by a team that never turned down a learning curve or a handshake. If you wanted a taste of how innovation, resilience, and a little bit of luck can transform your life, this is your vintage.
Listeners will learn:
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How understanding your real customer—rather than industry norms—can shape a brand and turn small insights into multi-million case success.
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The unfiltered truth about wine distribution, price setting, and the critical importance of merchandising and “being visible from four feet away.”
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Why business growth depends as much on relationships, hustle, and soft skills as it does on capital—and how these human elements can still triumph in the digital age.
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