From Bankruptcy to Barefoot: A Journey Through Wine Industry Hard Knocks
Release Date: 03/03/2026
Wine Talks with Paul K.
The idea of food and wine pairing is elusive at best. If you gave five Sommeliers the same dish and a host of wines to pair with the dish, you could very easily get five different suggestions. I know for me, when I pair wine and food, my first ideas usually don't work. Enter Dr. Peter Klosse and his research. If you’ve ever stared at a wine list or picked up a tasting note and thought, “There’s got to be a better way to make sense of all this,” then this episode of Wine Talks is for you. Paul K sits down with Peter Klosse, the Dutch chef and flavor scientist who’s shaking...
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I find her refreshing. I find her intriguing. I find her wise: In wine. Natalie brings to the proverbial table an unabashed view of wine and she will tell you like it is. I have to tell you that having Natalie McLean on the show was one of those times where you know you could just keep talking for hours, and still barely scratch the surface. From the moment she cracked her opening line about starting to drink when she met her husband—"and haven't found a reason to stop"—I knew we were in for an episode rich in anecdotes, laughter, and real insight into the world of wine and the...
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This is what is so interesting about the wine trade. It takes a ton of passion to do this, it is hard work and sometimes, without the passion, it just feels like a vanity project. At Caiarosa in Italy, the passion extends from Bordeaux France. I have had the pleasure to sit with the Director of the famed Chateau Giscours, a 2nd growth Bordeaux, and find their story and approach solid, but adventurous. Enter Caiarosa on the west side of Tuscany; a solidly Tuscan winery employing the methodes and thought processes of Bordeaux; sounds mixed up? Have a listen and find out why this makes...
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I have been watching, waiting, watching and waiting again...to talk with Klaas De Jong. He produces some of the most unique and cinematic wine footage in the trade. But it isn't just about the footage, it is the story telling. And he didn't come from the wine side, he is a movie maker who loves wine and he brought the two worlds together. If ever there was a guest who could turn the scrutinizing lens of cinema on a glass of wine, it’s Klaus de Jong—part philosopher, part producer, and entirely convinced that the best stories ferment slowly at the intersection of culture and...
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She is the worlds preeminent authority on wine fraud. If you weren't even aware that wine fraud exists, if does...in a big way. Wait until you her Maureen's disdain for Rudy Kurniawan, the famed and jailed wine fraudster (he was sent back to Singapore a few years ago), she tells it like she feels it. You might say Maureen Downey has the world’s most expensive palate—and the sharpest magnifying glass for tasting deception in a bottle. If you think wine is just about swirling, sipping, and enjoying a story-laden pour, think again. In this episode, Maureen Downey—the preeminent authority...
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The Concours Mondial de Bruxelles is coming to Yerevan, Armenia. It is a huge feather in the cap of the Armenian wine trade and the story of how and why it landed there is inspiring. Quentin Havaux is the 3rd generation of the fames tasting and judging group and the ascent to international recognition of the CMB is quite organic and humble. The wine trade is unforgiving and requires tenancity and patience. Quentin describes the history of CMB with pure enthusiasm and passion. And the relentless ambition to tell the stories of wine is inspiring. Quentin Havaux believes wine isn't...
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He changed everything...without a clue on what can of worms he was going to open. Steven Spurrier, the architect of the Judgement of Paris, checked in with Wine Talks to tell his and it's story. He passed only weeks after. Stephen Spurrier was never just a spectator in the world of wine—he was the host who re-sorted the guest list, rewrote the rules, and decanted a whole new future for California and beyond. In this episode of Wine Talks, you’ll hear firsthand how one Englishman’s curiosity and courage upended centuries of French dominance and invited America to the table. Spurrier’s...
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I am proud when I say I was born in Inglewood, California. So were Li and Leslie Jones. When I was 5 or 6 years old, my father would take me to work as I sat and stamped brochures with the name Van Ness Pharmacy. Then the perscription driver would take me to Daniel Freeman Elementary School. I say that with all the reverence in the world for the process; I learned work ethic. When I heard that there was a wine bar that primarily served wines from black owned wineries and was catgering to a fnew crowd of black wine enthusiasts and in Inglewood, I had to hear more. And Li and Leslie Jones did...
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I watch social daily. I guess we all have to. Besides the interaction with peers, it keeps you aware of what people are thinking and doing. Once you get past the chaf and get to the honest opinions and outlooks, you get folks like Molly Bossardt. I reached out to her to get a glimpse of what she is thinking and doing in our trade. Have a listen. Molly Bassard proves that you don’t have to be born in Napa or Bordeaux to turn the wine world on its digital head. When she launched Bread and Butter in the thick of 2020, Molly saw what many in the wine trade still missed: wineries...
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Relentless in her pursuits would be an understatement because Kerrin Laz is a force of nature. Kerrin is the type of person the wine trade needs...now. She is chock full of energy, a plethora of ideas, and a cavalcade of pathways to get there. She will be on the show again; there were too many subjects we never discussed. Sitting down with Kerrin Laz was like flipping open a well-loved journal and discovering a handful of stories you’d forgotten you needed to hear. There’s a warmth to the East Coast energy she carries with her, this tenacity blended with familiarity—sort of like...
info_outlineThis is a true story. in 1989, Michael Houlihan came to my office. He had a vision of wine brand (the story of why he had a vision is crazy in itself).
He wanted to create a wine named Barefoot Cellars. He had found the name from a deunct brand and had gone to the owner to ask to buy the name.
He also wanted to call it the "Chateau La Feet" of California wine. I was annoyed.
After I left, I called my father to tell him this crazy idea, "it will never work" I said. Today, Barefoot is the largest brand in America. Moral of the story: Don't listen to me.
Mike Houlihan might be the only guest who walked into a bankrupt winery hoping to collect $300,000, and walked out with the ingredients to launch America’s largest wine brand. You’ll discover how Mike Houlihan and Bonnie Harvey took their outsider wisdom—and perhaps a little moxie—and transformed bare feet, old tanks, and a rickety bottling machine into an empire rivaling Robert Mondavi and winning over Trader Joe’s and Kroger buyers from coast to coast. This isn’t another vineyard romance—this is gritty, real entrepreneurship. You’ll learn the salty secrets of wine buyers (“make it better than Bob, cheaper than Bob, and put it in a pig!”), the art of selling to mom-and-pop shops when big chains slam the door, and the critical merchandising strategies that made their bottle shine from four feet away (just as the buyer demanded). If you ever wondered what it takes to turn hardship into hustle—or how you can build a business legacy on persistence and soft skills, not just spreadsheets—Mike Houlihan and Bonnie Harvey peel back the curtain, sharing lessons that apply far beyond the wine aisle. Expect stories about bottling gone wrong, the challenges of excise taxes, and the colorful cast of wine industry characters. You’ll walk away knowing why sincerity, face-to-face connection, and caring for the people in “low places” are the true keys to scaling a business—and why their journey is now taught in universities across the globe. This episode distills decades of learning, from humble beginnings to bestselling audiobooks, written by a team that never turned down a learning curve or a handshake. If you wanted a taste of how innovation, resilience, and a little bit of luck can transform your life, this is your vintage.
Listeners will learn:
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How understanding your real customer—rather than industry norms—can shape a brand and turn small insights into multi-million case success.
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The unfiltered truth about wine distribution, price setting, and the critical importance of merchandising and “being visible from four feet away.”
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Why business growth depends as much on relationships, hustle, and soft skills as it does on capital—and how these human elements can still triumph in the digital age.
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