S4-E4: I bombed my podcast interview. The Grip That Sent Me Into Neurobiological Time Travel
Release Date: 04/08/2025
Who Turned The Lights On?
Probably my best iteration yet of how I I found my way out of the dark. I chose to share this information as an article I wrote for my younger self. Recording it and sharing it through audio with an invitation for you to come listen in. This final episode in this 3 part micro series speaks to how those of us from high stress childhoods, ongoing stress careers, now aged 40sih, can find our way out of the dark. How the nervous system is so much more than a piece of anatomy, and why #nervoussystemintelligence is so fundamental our quality of life - to everything. Resources mentioned in this...
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In this episode, this audio explores how nervous system adaptations silently shape the way we price, earn, and show up in business. From freezing at bigger ticket opportunities to collapsing under visibility, this recorded audio for my younger self, unpacks how survival logic—not strategy—often drives our decisions. We trace the five-layer Scarcity Code loop and reveal what shifts when pricing, receiving, and success stop being trauma responses and start showing up from places we've made whole. ______________________________________________________________________ Meet Shannon...
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In a Who Turned The Lights On first, I invite you to listen to a reading I recorded for my younger self, and perhaps for yours, too. This is Part 1 of a short series called The Scarcity Code, exploring how survival, money, and self-limitation are shaped by the nervous system from a time long, long ago. If you’ve ever felt stuck in patterns of under-earning, overgiving, or financial fear — even after years of strategy, effort, or mindset work — this may offer a different lens with which to explore the code that was added, that we can now choose to keep as is, or replace it with...
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The final episode in an 8-part micro series exploring the 70 page book - Successful Outside, Struggling Inside. This final episode summarises the last 7 episodes, before we get stuck into some very helpful distinctions, insights & context as you find your own way out of the dark. I include some more lived experience to bring these ideas to life, and ultimately, give you a clear map and suggestions on how and where to start, or continue along your own path to the exit from whatever this chapter gets called. The point being - there is an exit. We know where it is. We know how to get...
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While we don't really need to understand Neuroplasticity or Bioplasticity to recover, it is very helpful to undestand its role. Maybe understanding a bit about this, will make the path out of the dark a bit easier. Episode 18, is part 7 of our mini series exploring Successful Outside, Struggling Inside - a wee book of 70 pages that is my first attempt at articulating how I found my way out of the dark, and transformed my life more in 2 years than the prior 25. Neuro(pasti)City - rewires the brain ... but why, and what is it rewiring, and where did those original wires come...
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The area I ignored most, that likely added at least a year or more to my recovery. This is part 6 of our mini series exploring the wee book: Successful Outside, Struggling Inside. Page 45-48 in that free 70 page PDF, examines pace & progress. We start by putting a few key distinctions on the table, and then examine pace for both your thinking self, and separately for your nervous system. We look at how you, hijack you. Specifically the 3 most common markers where flares up happen. The pace of self regulation being long before you become dysregulated. The cost of...
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This is episode 16, also known as part 5 of our mini series on We explore all 8 bio-items that are the building blocks for optimum nervous system health. Those 8 bio items are captured as an acronym: T.H.E. C.L.I.M.B. Each of these 8 will be applied differently pending which run of the nervous system ladder your baseline currently is. We take a brief tour in and around each 1 and I make sure to add lived experience as we go, to ensure these feel as accessible as possible, for you to take away and work with right after the episode. The 8 bio-items? Thoughts Habitat Emotion...
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Episode 15 is also part 4 in this mini series, exploring the 70 pg wee book - Successful Outside, Struggling Inside. This episode recaps the prior 3 episodes, before taking a deep dive into The Rulebook installed in childhood, reinforced into adult years, that hijacks your current reality as it creates all sorts of shenanigans while it is left unchecked. Quite literally, it is like having your 5 year old self make decisions for your 40ish year old self today. We take a close look at what the Rulebook is, where it comes from, what it does, and a few ways (out of countless ways) to...
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Episode 14 coincides with a lived experience from this very morning that is used to shape, direct and explain this section of that wee book titled: Successful Outside, Struggling Inside, page 27-35 You can get the pdf in your inbox by going to this page, leaving your email, before hitting submit. Should land within a few minutes. This episode examines perception as projection. We look at two nervous system states and explore how different their respective perception is. We cover how the nervous system uses long forgotten past experiences to shape the vibe of today's...
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Get instant access to the wee book here: We are back with the 2nd of our mini series discussing the wee book - Successful Outside, Struggling Inside, pages 16-25. This episode focuses exlusively on the nervous system, tabling distinctions between dysregulated and depleted, nervous sytem states as our baseline vs the places our nervous system moves in and through, before taking a much closer look at each of the 4 states, and why state specifc recovery matters. For example, if you're stuck in survival mode - the red zone, and trying to help yourself with tools and resources from the peak...
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When someone taps into an old, unresolved emotional wound — especially one rooted in childhood dysregulation — the nervous system doesn’t recognize it as the past. It often responds as though the threat is happening now.
Here’s what typically happens in the body and nervous system:
1. Neurobiological Time Travel
The nervous system is non-verbal and non-linear.
When triggered, it reactivates the physiological and emotional patterns from the original moment, not the current reality. This is often referred to as "implicit memory" — felt, but not consciously recalled.
2. Survival State Re-Activation
Depending on how the nervous system coped back then, a person may automatically enter:
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Fight – agitation, blame, control
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Flight – panic, overthinking, urge to escape
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Freeze – numbness, disconnection, inability to act
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Fawn – people-pleasing, appeasement, self-erasure
This is not a choice — it’s the nervous system’s best attempt to protect the system with what it learned during developmental years
3. Prefrontal Shutdown
The part of the brain responsible for logic, executive function, and perspective (prefrontal cortex) goes offline. The limbic system and brainstem take over, prioritizing survival.
This is why:
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Rationalizing doesn't help
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Coaching feels frustrating
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“Calm down” is ineffective
4. Physiological Distress
Common physical symptoms include:
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Tight chest
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Shallow breath
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Tunnel vision
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Racing thoughts
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Muscle tension
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Digestive disruption
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Feeling "out of body" or dissociated
The body is preparing for a threat that no longer exists — but it doesn’t know that.
5. Emotional Amplification
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Small events feel massive
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Feedback feels like rejection
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Silence feels like abandonment
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Boundaries feel like danger
All of this is the result of a nervous system remembering pain, not processing reality.
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Shannon Eastman
Shannon Eastman is a business growth strategist fluent in both boardroom dynamics and nervous system regulation.
With 25 years of experience scaling businesses across tech, finance, and regulated industries worldwide, she brings a systems-thinking approach to performance, leadership, and wellbeing.
After five years studying the neurobiology of trauma, Jungian psychology, and polyvagal theory, Shannon now integrates nervous system intelligence into the way business gets done—through corporate pilots, strategic partnerships, and a global network of innovators driving this shift.
Her work bridges performance and wellbeing, laying the groundwork for a more human, sustainable way to lead.
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A Note on Safety
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