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Episode 93: Kristy Woodson Harvey (The Summer Of Songbirds)

The Worm Hole Podcast

Release Date: 03/11/2024

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Charlie and Kristy Woodson Harvey (The Summer Of Songbirds) discuss whether we should like her character, Lanier (who stops her best friend and brother being together); the various plot threads she left out of the book (including alternative endings); and US summer camps (both Kristy's experiences, and the effect of the pandemic lockdowns). We also spend a good amount of time discussing the pre-actor's-strike announcement of an adaptation of Kristy's Peachtree Bluff series and her next two books.

Kristy's The Wedding Veil
Kristy's Christmas In Peachtree Bluff
Friends & Fiction
Kristy's interview with Susan M Boyer
The announcement about the Peachtree Bluff adaptation on Kristy's website

Where to find Kristy online

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Discussions

02:14 The inspiration: a sailing trip at a summer camp Kristy went to with her family during the pandemic
06:49 So Lanier and Rich came first?...
08:02 How Kristy doesn't write in chronological order and how it ends up working well
12:01 How Kristy feels about Lanier
15:35 Why was important to write about Daphne's family and the problems there are there?
19:21 Why no narrator for Mary Stuart?
25:39 This book was originally longer (what got cut)
29:24 Kristy's childhood experiences of US summer camps
33:52 Why Kristy ends her book with a scene about Daphne, Lanier, and Mary Stuart's children going to camp
34:51 Real camps that had to close due to the lockdowns
36:24 The concept of 'hard things'
40:27 Other endings Kristy had in mind for The Summer Of Songbirds
44:43 A sequel?
48:18 The on-hold Peachtree Bluff adaptation
52:16 What's next (A Happier Life, and and very, very brief peak at Kristy's 2025 book)