The AAAi Podcast

AAA CEO & President Bridget McCormack and Killer Whale Strategies founder and startup investor Zach Abramowitz explore the impact of AI on the legal ecosystem and peel back the curtain on the AAA’s AI journey in a series of conversations with industry influencers.

Podcast host and founder of Creative Lawyers Jennifer Leonard 07/17/2025

Podcast host and founder of Creative Lawyers Jennifer Leonard In Episode 14 of the AAAi Podcast, Bridget McCormack and Zach Abramowitz sit down with Jennifer Leonard, Chief Innovation Officer at Penn Carey Law and founder of Creative Lawyers. Drawing on her work in legal ethics and education, Jennifer explains why the legal profession does not just need new tools. It needs a new operating system. The conversation covers the limits of traditional training, the role of systems thinking, and how law schools can better prepare lawyers to work with AI while staying grounded in public service. /episode/index/show/05248b2f-edaa-4ea6-9909-495d7ff7dea9/id/37419125

Hence Cofounder and Unruly Author Sean West 06/19/2025

Hence Cofounder and Unruly Author Sean West What if the biggest legal risk today is institutional memory loss? Bridget and Zach talk with Sean West, author of Unruly and cofounder of Hence Technologies, about how geopolitical instability, AI disruption, and legal short-termism are converging. He explains why the future of dispute resolution depends on preserving memory, rethinking incentives, and acting before the storm hits. This episode is a wake-up call for legal leaders who want to do more than just react. /episode/index/show/05248b2f-edaa-4ea6-9909-495d7ff7dea9/id/37063160

Professor Richard Susskind 06/05/2025

Professor Richard Susskind Bridget and Zach talk with Richard Susskind about his new book, How to Think About AI, and what AI means for the future of courts, lawyers, and justice. Richard challenges the legal profession’s deep resistance to change and asks: what if access to justice mattered more than preserving legal work as we know it? LinkedIn: X Amazon Website: /episode/index/show/05248b2f-edaa-4ea6-9909-495d7ff7dea9/id/36850250

Hebbia.ai Head of Legal Vertical Ryan Samii 05/22/2025

Hebbia.ai Head of Legal Vertical Ryan Samii What if lawyers didn’t have to settle for chatbots? Bridget and Zach talk with Ryan Samii, Head of Legal at Hebbia.ai, about building the AI infrastructure legal teams actually want. He explains why Hebbia ditched chat for a grid—and how acting fast beats waiting for perfect. This episode is a playbook for smart risk, bold design, and legal teams who don’t wait to get started. /episode/index/show/05248b2f-edaa-4ea6-9909-495d7ff7dea9/id/36661620

From Podcast Guest to Strategic Partner: Clearbrief Founder and CEO Jacqueline Schafer 05/08/2025

From Podcast Guest to Strategic Partner: Clearbrief Founder and CEO Jacqueline Schafer Bridget and Zach talk with Clearbrief Founder and CEO Jaqueline Schafer. In this episode of The AAAi Podcast, we trace how a podcast conversation turned into a strategic partnership. It’s a case study in building trust, piloting with purpose, and quietly rewriting what it means to be the global authority in dispute resolution. /episode/index/show/05248b2f-edaa-4ea6-9909-495d7ff7dea9/id/36461655

Helton Law Group Founder and CEO Carrie McLain and Newcode.ai Founder and CEO Maged Helmy 04/24/2025

Helton Law Group Founder and CEO Carrie McLain and Newcode.ai Founder and CEO Maged Helmy Bridget and Zach talk with Maged and Carrie about building legal AI that actually works. Maged shares how Newcode was designed to meet the realities of practice - modular, secure, and deployed where the data lives. Carrie explains how her firm is built to empower clients to solve problems themselves, even if that means working herself out of a job. /episode/index/show/05248b2f-edaa-4ea6-9909-495d7ff7dea9/id/36282600

David Lat, Founder Original Jurisdiction 12/05/2024

David Lat, Founder Original Jurisdiction Bridget and Zach talk with David Lat, founder of Original Jurisdiction and Above the Law. David shares what lawyers’ lawyers are saying about AI, regulatory challenges, client demands, and their impact on the future of law and dispute resolution. /episode/index/show/05248b2f-edaa-4ea6-9909-495d7ff7dea9/id/34302430

Ford Motor Company’s AGC Darth Vaughn & Sr. Counsel Whitney Stefko Dover 10/31/2024

Ford Motor Company’s AGC Darth Vaughn & Sr. Counsel Whitney Stefko Dover Bridget and Zach speak with Darth Vaughn and Whitney Stefko Dover from Ford Motor Company about AI's impact on in-house counsel and how it's reshaping legal operations and change management. /episode/index/show/05248b2f-edaa-4ea6-9909-495d7ff7dea9/id/33693002

Jenner & Block Partner Adam Unikowsky 08/01/2024

Jenner & Block Partner Adam Unikowsky Bridget and Zach talk with Adam Unikowsky, about his article “In AI We Trust, Part II,” where AI adjudicates every Supreme Court case. They explore how AI tools are rapidly advancing and their impact on the law. "In AI We Trust, Part II" /episode/index/show/05248b2f-edaa-4ea6-9909-495d7ff7dea9/id/32371777

ODR.com CEO Colin Rule 05/31/2024

ODR.com CEO Colin Rule At Future Lawyer USA in Boston, Zach and Bridget talk with Colin Rule on stage in Boston at Future Lawyer USA about the AAA’s acquisition of his company ODR.com, the AAA’s first acquisition of a tech company in its nearly 100 year history. /episode/index/show/05248b2f-edaa-4ea6-9909-495d7ff7dea9/id/31542422

LegalMation CEO James Lee 04/25/2024

LegalMation CEO James Lee At Legalweek in New York, Bridget and Zach talk about the power and limitations of large language models with LegalMation founder James Lee. /episode/index/show/05248b2f-edaa-4ea6-9909-495d7ff7dea9/id/30967578

Clearbrief CEO Jacqueline Schafer 03/28/2024

Clearbrief CEO Jacqueline Schafer At Legalweek in New York, Bridget and Zach talk with ex-litigator and Clearbrief founder Jacqueline Schafer about how large language models are changing the game for legal tech. /episode/index/show/05248b2f-edaa-4ea6-9909-495d7ff7dea9/id/30549638

AAA CIO Diana Didia 02/29/2024

AAA CIO Diana Didia Bridget and Zach talk with AAA’s CIO Diana Didia about how AAA is leaning into AI with multiple initiatives across the organization. /episode/index/show/05248b2f-edaa-4ea6-9909-495d7ff7dea9/id/30136993

AAAi Podcast 02/27/2024

AAAi Podcast At Legalweek in New York, Bridget and Zach unveil the mission statement of their newly launched podcast and discuss why the AI revolution matters. /episode/index/show/05248b2f-edaa-4ea6-9909-495d7ff7dea9/id/30136913

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