The BRAVE OT Podcast | Real Conversations with Occupational Therapy Trailblazers

The BRAVE OT Podcast with Carlyn Neek is all about empowering occupational therapists to step-up, level-up, blaze some trails, and maybe engage in a little conscious rebellion in service of the profession, our clients, our work, our businesses, and living our mission wholeheartedly. We are all about keeping it real, doing hard things, unhuslting, being curious, trying new things, growing through our challenges, and finding joy and fulfilment along the way. Really, we are OTing ourselves and each other. About This Podcast The BRAVE OT Podcast features authentic conversations with occupational therapists doing innovative and interesting work, from private practice owners to clinicians pioneering new approaches to OTs, creating entirely new paths for the profession. Through real conversations, we explore the challenges of trailblazing, the reality of navigating uncertainty, and how OTs support each other through it all. Whether you're an OT practice owner facing uncertainty, a clinician exploring new directions to escape environments that contribute to burnout, or an occupational therapist who's ready to do things differently, these conversations will resonate. We talk about the messy middle of building something meaningful, the isolation that can come with going your own way, and what it really takes to create sustainable work that aligns with your values. Host Carlyn Neek brings her lived experience as a multipassionate ADHDer, her decads of work with adult mental health with high achievers and her OT mentorship and business coaching to these conversations. Creating space for honest dialogue about the challenges we face as innovators in our profession is her superpower. The BRAVE OT Podcast is perfect for: Occupational therapists in private practice, OTs exploring entrepreneurship, clinicians seeking inspiration and community, and anyone interested in the evolving landscape of our profession. We aim for 2 episodes per month. 💌 An invitation from Carlyn: If you're an OT who has built a solid private practice but it's time to evolve to make your business work for you in this next phase of life, I'd love to talk to you. I provide coaching for occupational therapists and support for overwhelmed OT practice owners who want to THRIVE without the HUSTLE through my ACTivate Vitality program, an evidence-based approach to building entrepreneurial resilience with a neurodiversity-affirming community where you can find your people as well as the strategy to make intentional, values-led changes in your life and business. https://www.balanceworks.online/avprogram Let's create clarity together by figuring out what you need to make this important shift away from your business running you toward loving your life with a business to support it. 🤗 Book a Clarity Call: https://www.activatevitality.online/call 🔗 Connect with me: https://www.balanceworks.online/contact-links

Ep. 54: ACT for Occupational Therapists - Using Acceptance and Commitment Therapy in Any OT Setting 01/22/2026

Ep. 54: ACT for Occupational Therapists - Using Acceptance and Commitment Therapy in Any OT Setting ACT for Occupational Therapists: Using Acceptance and Commitment Therapy in Any OT Setting Have you ever worked with clients who seem stuck? The ones who don't follow through on goals they set themselves, the ones often labeled with judgy terms like "non-compliant" or "unmotivated"? As occupational therapists, we're often called in when all else has failed. But when psychosocial barriers keep people from engaging in meaningful occupations, we need tools that work with the internal experiences creating those obstacles. Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) offers occupational therapists a powerful, trauma-informed framework for helping clients unhook from difficult thoughts, feelings, and sensations so they can move toward the occupations that matter to them. Whether you practice in physical rehab, pediatrics, mental health, persistent pain, or community settings, ACT can integrate into your OT approach. In This Episode, I Discuss: - The experience of clients being "hooked" and moving away from meaningful occupations despite having goals they care about - The ACT choice point model: toward moves versus away moves and what that means for occupational engagement - How the six core processes of ACT break down into mindfulness-based tools and values-based action (aka meaningful occupation) - The four ACT processes that help clients be more flexibly responsive to difficult internal experiences - Why ACT feels aligned with trauma-informed, humanistic, collaborative approaches to occupational therapy practice - How "open up, be present, do what matters" translates to occupational therapy - Practical ways ACT fits into OT sessions across different practice settings About My Practical ACT for OTs Course The Practical ACT for OTs Course is clinical education designed specifically for occupational therapists who want to integrate Acceptance and Commitment Therapy into their practice. It is a psychosocial skill for any area of practice. The course includes: Eight asynchronous video modules (approximately 4.5 hours of content with limitless access) Optional live group calls twice a month to discuss clinical applications and nuance Online community of OT peers learning and applying ACT Resource library with tools you can use immediately in practice Support for applying ACT across all OT settings More than 150 occupational therapists have taken this course, and it's designed to help you add ACT tools to your clinical toolkit without feeling overwhelmed. Learn more and register today for our February 1, 2026 cohort: If you're listening at a later time, please check the website to see if we're actively accepting registrations for an upcoming cohort. Connect With Carlyn About The BRAVE OT Podcast The BRAVE OT Podcast features occupational therapists doing innovative work and navigating the challenges of building meaningful careers in OT. Host Carlyn Neek is an occupational therapist, educator, and coach who works with OTs through clinical education, business coaching, and community support. /episode/index/show/1db7eeb4-369b-437b-afd3-bd20c714e024/id/39827645

Ep. 53: Deinstitutionalizing OT - Field Research, Folk Wisdom & Creating Your Own Path with Dr. Josie Jarvis 01/12/2026

Ep. 53: Deinstitutionalizing OT - Field Research, Folk Wisdom & Creating Your Own Path with Dr. Josie Jarvis Deinstitutionalizing OT: Field Research, Folk Wisdom & Creating Your Own Path with Dr. Josie Jarvis What does it mean to deinstitutionalize yourself as an occupational therapist? In this wide-ranging conversation, Dr. Josie Jarvis and I explore everything from the historical roots of healthcare systems to why OTs need to reclaim field research and folk wisdom. If you've ever felt stuck in traditional practice settings or wondered how to apply occupational science to your own life, this episode offers both validation and a path forward. We discuss burnout recovery for occupational therapists, the power of community-based folk arts, and why being brave sometimes means daring to ask the "dumb" question. This conversation is for OTs who are ready to experiment, create their own paths, and remember that innovation doesn't require permission. ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ IN THIS EPISODE, WE DISCUSS: ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ - Why deinstitutionalization matters for practitioners, not just clients - How occupational science can help OTs recover from moral injury and burnout - The historical context of healthcare systems and women's contributions through folk wisdom - Understanding twice-exceptionality (gifted + learning differences) and how it shows up in OT practice - Why field research and observation are more valuable than we've been taught - The problems with the traditional evidence-based practice pyramid and the Tomlin & Borgetto alternative - How grades and academic metrics aren't real and why that matters - Building community through folk arts and crafts as a vehicle for policy change - The Being, Becoming, Belonging quilt project and its impact on systemic change - What it means to be brave: daring to be vulnerable, asking questions, and showing up in your fullness ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ ABOUT DR. JOSIE JARVIS ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ Dr. Josie Jarvis is a twice-exceptional (ADHD/NVLD/Gifted) occupational therapist, critical implementation scientist, and host of the Evolved Living Podcast. She brings over a decade of clinical experience across home health, acute care, memory care, pediatrics, and K–12 education together with her neurodivergent lived experience to explore how systems shape human occupation, creativity, and identity. After collaborating with Carlyn Neek in the ACTivate Vitality program, Josie deepened her commitment to reviving a contemporary folk arts/crafts and critical implementation science movement that supports collective occupational wellbeing and recovery from systemic harm across borders and practice settings. Her work blends OT/OS scholarship, accessible education, and creative praxis to help practitioners and communities reclaim meaningful occupation and systemic integrity. ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ RESOURCES MENTIONED ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ Josie's OT and OS Work can all be found at Including: - OT/OS Substack & Evolved Living Podcast: https://josiejarvisot.substack.com - Professional Website: https://josiejarvis.com - OS 101 Course – Foundations of Occupational Science for U.S.-Based OT Practitioners - OS 101 Guide Josie's Creative & Intuitive Work can be found at including: - Josephine Patricia Creative Substack - Various products and courses related to rewilding, arts, circles and more Books & Resources: - - - Previous Episodes of the BRAVE OT Podcast Referenced: - - ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ WORK WITH CARLYN ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ If today's conversation about deinstitutionalizing yourself and finding hope beyond burnout resonated with you, the ACTivate Vitality Program offers a community of OT practice owners who are navigating these same challenges. We focus on building sustainable, values-aligned practices through group coaching, ACT-based frameworks, and genuine support not hustle culture. /episode/index/show/1db7eeb4-369b-437b-afd3-bd20c714e024/id/39705965

Ep. 52: Using AI to Ease Documentation Burden Ethically, with Tech Leader Raj Paul 12/16/2025

Ep. 52: Using AI to Ease Documentation Burden Ethically, with Tech Leader Raj Paul Ever feel like you're drowning in documentation while the work you actually trained for gets squeezed into the margins? Or maybe you're curious about AI tools but worried about privacy, security, and whether using them is even ethical? You're not alone and this conversation might be exactly what you need to hear. In this episode, I sit down with Raj Paul, Director of Engineering at Jane, where he leads the teams building clinical features designed to reduce administrative burden. Raj brings a unique perspective he's not an OT, but his wife is, so he deeply understands our world. He's also openly multipassionate, generating many ideas and he shares about how he uses AI to challenge and refine his thinking and communicate more effectively. We're having the real conversation about AI documentation tools that so many OTs are craving. Raj walks us through exactly how AI Scribe keeps your data private, how to get proper consent from clients, and why you don't need to be afraid of this technology. But here's what really hit me: We talk about this pervasive belief that for work to be valuable, it needs to be hard. I share about the experience of OT entrepreneur coaching clients who had a turning point when she started using AI for documentation. She realized she'd been using her leftover energy for her family instead of finding ways to work less hard. That shift cascaded into her riding bikes more, making art, volunteering with her kids' sports teams, and actually living her life. Work doesn't have to be hard to be valuable. In this episode, we cover: How AI Scribe actually works and what makes it secure (BAAs, human-in-the-loop design, AWS partnership) Why Jane's team can't access your transcripts or notes - and how they improve the tool without seeing your data Getting informed consent from clients (regulatory considerations, intake forms, and having the conversation) How to start experimenting with AI safely before using it clinically The "AI as intern" analogy - why you still need to check its work Privacy concerns, environmental considerations, and making values-aligned decisions Why Raj uses Claude personally to challenge his ideas and improve his communication The importance of psychological safety in creating better ideas and better outcomes Practical tips: Start with free tools, check your privacy settings, get comfortable before jumping in This episode is for you if: You're curious about AI documentation but need the safety and privacy facts first You're burned out from documentation and wondering if there's a better way You've been seeing AI conversations in Facebook groups and need real information to decide You're ready to challenge the belief that struggle equals value You want to reclaim your time and energy for what actually matters Ready to try it yourself? Use the code VITALITY or follow , which includes free access to 5 AI Scribe sessions per month. I haven't had a list of chart notes waiting for me in a really long time. They're done in minutes, and it's genuinely changed my practice. My Article: Jane's Article: Connect with Raj Paul: /episode/index/show/1db7eeb4-369b-437b-afd3-bd20c714e024/id/39429340

Ep. 51: Redefining Brave When Everything Changes With Trish Williams 11/01/2025

Ep. 51: Redefining Brave When Everything Changes With Trish Williams Ever wonder what happened to some of our OT entrepreneur trail blazers who went quiet? If you've been around OT social media or podcasts, you probably know Trish Williams from her brand, OTs Get Paid. In this raw, honest conversation, Trish opens up about why you haven't heard from her in more than a year and it's not the story you might expect. This episode is about what happens when your capacity fundamentally shifts. When perimenopause rewires your brain. When family crisis demands everything you have. When the version of yourself you've been living and sharing doesn't fit anymore. And when slowing down becomes the bravest thing you've ever done. In this conversation, we explore: The collision of perimenopause and family crisis that changed everything Why Trish went back to being a mobile OT after thinking she'd "graduated" from that How cognitive changes in perimenopause can feel like late-onset ADHD The shame that comes with not being able to keep up anymore (and the rotting cooler story) What it really means to slow down when your whole identity was about achieving Redefining "brave", from launching businesses to getting reports done on time The shift from hope to faith when life gets really hard Building boundaries, finding what lights you up, and detaching with love Why volunteering at Pride and Folk Fest became her community lifeline The daily practices that keep her grounded (and why "scary thing" became "brave thing") This episode is for you if: You're noticing your capacity has shifted and you don't know what to do about it You're in perimenopause or menopause and feeling completely disoriented You're navigating a major life crisis while trying to keep your business/career going You're tired of maintaining an image that doesn't fit who you are anymore You need permission to slow down without giving up You're a single parent or primary caregiver feeling stretched beyond your limits, even while parenting adult children You want to hear what building a life that actually works for you looks like Connect with Trish: Email: and listen to the . Join the conversation in - come share what "brave" looks like for you in your current season. Questions OTs are searching: What are perimenopause symptoms affecting my work? How do I manage my OT practice with changing capacity? Is it normal to feel burnt out as an occupational therapist? Can I go back to clinical work after business coaching? How do I pivot my OT career in midlife? What does mobile OT work look like? How do therapists handle family crisis while working? Is perimenopause affecting my ADHD symptoms? How do I slow down my OT practice without quitting? What are signs of therapist burnout? How do I rebuild my OT career after time away? /episode/index/show/1db7eeb4-369b-437b-afd3-bd20c714e024/id/38871160

Ep. 50: Sustainable Practice - Purpose + Profit with Jason Stein 10/09/2025

Ep. 50: Sustainable Practice - Purpose + Profit with Jason Stein Ep. 50: Sustainable Practice - Purpose + Profit with Jason Stein In this milestone 50th episode of The BRAVE OT Podcast, I sit down with Jason Stein—acupuncturist, executive coach, and the cowboy-hat-wearing wellness practitioner who's mastered the art of building a sustainable occupational therapy practice that honors both purpose and profit. If you're an overwhelmed practice owner wondering how to create more vitality in your work and life, this conversation offers wisdom you can actually use. Jason shares his journey from hospital-based integrative medicine to building a wellness center in rural Oregon (population: one person per two square miles), and how he helps founders and leaders find balance between making money and staying human. We explore Key Vitality Indicators (KVIs) instead of KPIs, why befriending money doesn't make you less spiritual, and the simple practices that are often the hardest to maintain—but create the most transformation. In This Episode, We Discuss: Why so many therapy practice owners experience burnout and what Key Vitality Indicators can tell you about your business health How Jason shifted from perseverating about outcomes to surrendering control—and why ketamine therapy opened a door to deeper presence The practical magic of closing your eyes for half a breath during heated conversations Why making money and being a heart-centered healer aren't mutually exclusive (and how to befriend money like a best friend) Natural rhythms, seasonal cycles, and why we've disrupted our connection to rest through electricity and hustle culture The Kawa Model (Japanese river model) for understanding life flow, obstacles, and opportunities in your practice (See ) How to build a values-based business that doesn't require you to abandon your love of nature, family dinners, or making really good ice cream The truth about AI tools: when they help with self-reflection and when you need actual human connection Some good health advice, "You can pay now or you can pay later, but you're gonna pay" Jane's LIFE CHANGING AI Scribe feature. Check out my Be sure to use the code for a one month grace period. About Jason Stein Jason Stein is an acupuncturist, executive coach, and storyteller who blends ancient wisdom with modern leadership. With more than 25 years of experience helping hundreds of people heal and thrive, he supports leaders, founders, and communities in finding the balance between purpose and profit. Jason co-owns in Joseph, Oregon, and hosts the . When not working, he's outdoors with his wife and kids exploring the wilderness and living close to nature. Resources Mentioned: - Insight Timer app (meditation timer) - Jon Kabat-Zinn - "Full Catastrophe Living" - Kawa Model (Japanese river model for occupational therapy) - Alan Weiss - "Value-Based Consulting" - Marshall Rosenberg - Nonviolent Communication - Maisie Hill - "Period: The Real Talk You Need About Periods" - Claude AI (for business reflection and planning) Keep the conversation going over in . Work With Carlyn - Time-Sensitive Opportunity: As we enter October, I'll be focusing my time less on marketing and more on deepening the work with practitioners in my community. If you've been waiting for the deadline to explore with me, reach out this week while I'm still actively booking new conversations. The ACTivate Vitality Program is a community of occupational therapy and wellness practitioners who support each other in building sustainable, values-aligned businesses. We have group coaching calls, an online community, an ACT-based framework to build entrepreneurial and psychological flexibility, and 1:1 support. About The BRAVE OT Podcast: The BRAVE OT Podcast features occupational therapists and wellness practitioners doing innovative work and navigating the challenges of building sustainable therapy practices. Host Carlyn Neek provides coaching, mentorship, and community support for practice owners who want to thrive without the hustle. /episode/index/show/1db7eeb4-369b-437b-afd3-bd20c714e024/id/38527185

Ep. 49: Neurodivergent OTs Discuss Creating a Practice That Actually Works for You With Guest, Breanna James 09/17/2025

Ep. 49: Neurodivergent OTs Discuss Creating a Practice That Actually Works for You With Guest, Breanna James This week on The BRAVE OT Podcast: So many neurodivergent OTs like us have spent our careers trying to squeeze ourselves into systems that weren't designed for how our brains work, for our sensory needs, or for how our values need to align deeply with our work. It is a brave move to one day say "I'm going to create something that actually works for me." Join me as I talk with Breanna James, an OT from Alaska who's been part of my ACTivate Vitality program and community for almost a year. Breanna specializes in supporting neurodivergent adults, and what I love about this conversation is how she talks about creating her private practice as her own accommodation - a way to work that honors both her neurodivergent brain and her values around authentic, client-centered care. You'll hear how she moved from traditional settings that didn't quite fit into building something that works for her life as a parent, as a business owner, and as someone who needs flexibility and play in her work. We dive into why neurodivergent adults desperately need our OT services, how to bring play and creativity back into the mundane parts of business, and why you don't need another certification to start helping the people who need you most. This conversation is for any OT who's been feeling like they need to practice differently, who's struggling with the loneliness of solo practice, or who's wondering if they're qualified enough to work with adult populations. If you've ever felt like you're trying to squeeze yourself into a mold that wasn't made for you, this episode will give you permission to create something that actually fits. Key Topics We Discuss: Creating private practice as your own accommodation for neurodivergent needs Permission to practice OT authentically without fitting traditional molds The power of community and connection for solo practitioners Bringing playfulness back into business and clinical work Why neurodivergent adults need OT services (beyond coaches or counselors) Moving from burnout to sustainable, values-driven practice Using AI tools to support clinical work Breaking free from the "shoulds" and finding what actually works Building teams and having vulnerable leadership conversations Who This Episode Is For: OTs feeling stuck in traditional employment settings Solo practitioners experiencing loneliness and isolation Neurodivergent OTs seeking accommodations in their work Anyone questioning whether they're qualified to work with adult populations OTs interested in supporting neurodivergent adults Links Mentioned: Breanna's website: Contact Breanna: (book mentioned by Breanna) Comment with your favourite comfort shows. Here are ours: Schitt's Creek Grey's Anatomy Friends 30 Rock True Crime Shows and Podcasts Keep the conversation going in the Download the to see what we are talking about. We are currently accepting new OT business owners into the program so we'd love to hear from you. today. Ready to meet Jane and try out the AI Scribe? As a listener of The BRAVE OT Podcast, we invite you to check out our favourite EMR, and use the code VITALITY on your new Jane account for a one month grace period. Questions OTs Are Asking: How can I create a private practice that works for my neurodivergent brain? What support is available for OT business owners? How can I improve my mindset as a business owner? How do I overcome loneliness as a solo practitioner? What's the difference between OT and coaching for neurodivergent adults? How do I bring more play and creativity into my business? Can occupational therapists help adults with executive functioning? Do I need special certifications to work with autistic adults? How do I start working with neurodivergent adults as an OT? What does occupational therapy look like for adults with ADHD? #OTBusiness #NeurodivergentOT #ADHDTherapist #AutismOT #OccupationalTherapy #BRAVEOTPodcast #OTLife #EntrepreneurOT #ACTivateVitality #SustainableBusiness #OTCommunity #PrivatePracticeOT #BusinessOwnerLife #OTSupport #AuthenticPractice /episode/index/show/1db7eeb4-369b-437b-afd3-bd20c714e024/id/38245775

Ep. 48: The Mindset Shifts That Move You Through Fear and Into Entrepreneurial Action With Guest, Dr. Lorne Brown 08/29/2025

Ep. 48: The Mindset Shifts That Move You Through Fear and Into Entrepreneurial Action With Guest, Dr. Lorne Brown Waiting until you feel ready to make your next move? Convinced you need more training before you can call yourself an expert? Think entrepreneurs are just naturally fearless? Join me as I talk with traditional Chinese medicine doctor, Dr. Lorne Brown, about the mindset shifts we need to make to move through fear and think like an entrepreneur. Lorne shares how he built a thriving practice by flipping conventional wisdom on its head, committing first to a meaningful challenge, then finding courage, building capability, and finally gaining confidence. You'll hear his adaptation of Dan Sullivan's "Four Cs" framework for tackling scary ventures, how he persisted in building trust with referral partners, even when the doors kept closing, and the real story behind building something meaningful when you have no idea what you're doing. We explore how to reframe rejection as valuable feedback, why your niche might need to choose you, and the inner work (cognitive, emotional and spiritual) required to become a clear vessel for inspired action. This conversation is for any practitioner who's been playing it safe, overthinking their next move, or struggling with the gap between wanting to grow and actually taking action. If you've ever felt paralyzed by not knowing enough or not being ready enough, this episode will shift how you think about courage, competence, and what it really takes to build something that matters. Links mentioned: , a book by Dan Sullivan Dr. Lorne Brown's website where you'll find his: Clinic - Acubalance Wellness Center Book - "Missing the Point: Why Acupuncturists Fail and What They Need to Know to Succeed" Educational Platform - Healthy Seminars Join us in to keep the conversation going! Work with Me: If the gap between you and sustainable action in making your business look like your dream job, reach out. is taking new participants in September and we are really good at creating the safe space and accountability you need to implement just what Lorne and I talk about in this podcast. Questions OTs are asking: How do I overcome fear of starting my own practice? What mindset do I need to be a successful healthcare entrepreneur? How do I build confidence in my business abilities? What's the difference between successful and struggling practitioners? How do I know when I'm ready to take the leap? Meet Jane Jane is an EMR with heart and also the sponsor of The BRAVE OT Podcast. I recently wrote a blog article on how I customized Jane's AI Scribe feature to write chart notes that are better quality and more occupationally focused than my notes have every been before. and, if you decide to sign up, be sure to use the for a one month grace period as listender of this podcast. /episode/index/show/1db7eeb4-369b-437b-afd3-bd20c714e024/id/38022775

Ep 47: The Messy Middle of Multiple Income Streams - My Behind-the-Scenes Business Reality 08/08/2025

Ep. 46: Multi-Passionate OTs Creating Work They Love, One Layer at a Time with Guests, Áine O'Dea & Jen Trzeciak 08/01/2025

Ep. 46: Multi-Passionate OTs Creating Work They Love, One Layer at a Time with Guests, Áine O'Dea & Jen Trzeciak Ever feel like you're the only OT who doesn't have their career path mapped out? Like you should have it more figured out by now or you thought you were on the right path and something's not right? Meet Áine and Jen, two multi-passionate OTs who've built thriving practices by embracing the messy, non-linear path of figuring it out as they go. From car crashes that changed everything to setting up businesses because "I don't really know what else to do," these two prove that sustainable, fulfilling OT careers don't require having it all planned out. What You'll Learn We explore how clinical supervision works as real professional development (not just another box to tick), practical ways to combat the isolation of solo practice, why starting with one client is enough to begin, and how to work with your ADHD brain instead of against it. Áine and Jen share the honest reality of career pivots, the power of getting help instead of doing everything yourself, and why the smallest therapeutic moments often create the biggest breakthroughs. This episode is for multi-passionate OTs feeling scattered, anyone considering private practice but overwhelmed by where to start, OTs feeling isolated in their current work, and those ready to stop apologizing for not having a traditional career path. Connect with Our Guests Áine O'Dea , and Jen Trzeciak , and Listen to the Irish Occupational Therapy Podcast and : September 20th, Dublin Emails available on their respective social media profiles Join the Conversation Head over to to continue this conversation about supervision, private practice, and owning our professional worth. We'd love to hear your thoughts! Explore the ACTivate Vitality Planner The personal development planner (made by me!) that blends science and soul to guide you towards a vibrant, authentic, values-driven life. Now is a great time for a new start! . Change Your Relationship with Documentation Not only will you get to explore the tool that we have all been wishing for that magically makes great chart notes while you're busy working directly with your client, you can also use my code VITALITY for a one month grace period on your new Jane account. . /episode/index/show/1db7eeb4-369b-437b-afd3-bd20c714e024/id/37628470

Ep. 45: Burnout and Attuning to Your Inner Wisdom to Transform Your Business With Guest, Dr. Jess Reynolds 08/01/2025

Ep. 45: Burnout and Attuning to Your Inner Wisdom to Transform Your Business With Guest, Dr. Jess Reynolds What happens when your business feels out of alignment with who you are and you’re brave enough to admit it? In this episode of The BRAVE OT Podcast, I sat down with Dr. Jess Reynolds, a collaborator and traditional Chinese medicine practitioner and educator, to talk about what it really looks like to reimagine your life and work from the inside out. In this discussion we explore some of our lived and learned experiences including: How inner work shapes outer success—and why it’s often the part we skip The hidden spiritual and identity layers of burnout Why teaching can be the best way to learn (especially the stuff you most need yourself) Disrupting default ways of practicing to make room for deeper alignment The introvert table, mindfulness beyond meditation, and laundry piles as existential mirrors Whether you're an OT in private practice, an educator, or a healing professional trying to find your footing, this is a real conversation about being human in your work. I think you'll find AH-HAs in: Jess’s experience pivoting from teaching technique to teaching transformation The gap between what practitioners need and what they actually seek out in CE Why "just be yourself" isn’t always accessible—and how to honor your capacity The shift from pre-recorded courses to community-based learning Personal stories of burnout, grief, reinvention, and finding flow again Mentioned: Jess's Free Course Jess's Business Course is now open! Book a demo with the and be sure to use my code VITALITY at the time of signup for a one month grace period on your new account. Keep the conversation going in Connect with Jess: Instagram: Website: Connect with Carlyn: Instagram: Podcast home: 🎧 Subscribe to The BRAVE OT Podcast on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. /episode/index/show/1db7eeb4-369b-437b-afd3-bd20c714e024/id/37359965

Ep. 42: Navigating Competition and Collaboration as OT Copywriters with Guests, Jenny Gill and Krista Frahm 08/01/2025

Ep. 41: The Making of an OT Entrepreneur with Guest Interviewer Jacqueline Buhler 08/01/2025

Ep. 44: A Conversation with STEMinist Fiction Author and OT, Jaima Fixsen 07/07/2025

Ep. 44: A Conversation with STEMinist Fiction Author and OT, Jaima Fixsen A Lunchroom Conversation with STEMinist Fiction Author and OT, Jaima Fixsen In this episode, I had the pleasure of sitting down with Jaima Fixsen, a Canadian occupational therapist and USA Today bestselling author who writes STEMinist fiction novels while balancing roles as a mom and OT. We dive deep into how she uses her OT skills to support her creative work and manage the unstructured nature of writing and the midlife desire to shift into new, more aligned occupations. Spoiler alert: tap dancing and sourdough didn't work out. Whether you're an OT interested in creative pursuits, managing your own practice, or simply curious about applying OT principles to your own life and work, this conversation offers valuable insights about embracing new occupations while honoring our professional identity. Key Topics We Discuss: How Jaima transitioned from full-time OT to splitting her time between clinical practice and writing as a PAID occupation The concept of "middle-essence" - finding new occupations and meaning in midlife transitions Using OT strategies to manage executive function demands of creative work Creating sensory-rich writing routines to support focus and flow Setting boundaries and implementing behavioural strategies for productivity The fascinating historical background of her latest novel "" set in 1828 Edinburgh The evolution of medical ethics and consent in anatomical studies Supporting local bookstores OT Insights to Apply in Your Own Work: Strategies for managing unstructured work time Creating supportive sensory environments Breaking down large projects into manageable chunks Setting appropriate goals and rewards Managing perfectionism and task initiation Techniques to find creative flow and stay healthy Resources Mentioned: by Jaima Fixsen - find it at your local bookstore Get 2 free audiobooks at while supporting a local bookstore of your choice Learn more about Instagram: , my program and community for OT business owners 's time-saving writing features, including my fave AI Scribe, with a one month grace period on your new account using the code VITALITY /episode/index/show/1db7eeb4-369b-437b-afd3-bd20c714e024/id/37309720

Ep. 43: Overcoming Entrepreneurial Perfectionism with the Scientific Method 06/01/2025

Ep. 43: Overcoming Entrepreneurial Perfectionism with the Scientific Method Episode Summary: Is perfectionism keeping you stuck in “figure-it-all-out-first” mode? You’re not alone and you’re not broken. In this solo episode of The BRAVE OT Podcast, I explore a powerful reframe for occupational therapy entrepreneurs who stay in perfecting mode, immobilized by self-doubt and a need to get it right before they begin. Maybe you even use the term imposter syndrome. The antidote? The scientific method. Yes, the same framework we trust as clinicians. I walk through how we can approach entrepreneurship like the clinical scientists we already are. Instead of waiting until something is perfect, we can co-create, experiment, observe, revise, and grow. This shift can unlock so much momentum, clarity, and confidence in your business. AND it's best practice in entrepreneurship. I also share some behind-the-scenes updates: from developing a university course on entrepreneurship, to guest teaching, to getting ready for Bronwyn Paynter's Nature Day in Australia, and how all of it connects back to how we show up bravely in our work. This episode is here to help you move forward. One experiment at a time. In This Episode: Why perfectionism is so common among high-achieving OTs What imposter syndrome really means (and why I rarely use the term) How the scientific method can be your best business tool What entrepreneurship and treatment planning have in common Why selling while you're testing matters more than you think How ACTivate Vitality helps therapy business owners build inner flexibility to navigate outer challenges Interested in joining me at the Nature Day in Australia? Learn more here → Want to learn about working with me? I'd love to talk to you about supporting you as the whole person at the centre of your business with a community, collaborative support, human connection, and a proven transformative process to make your business and your life feel more aligned. Let's talk about ACTivate Vitality. Check it out and book a time to connect here: A note from Jane: Switch to Jane to make documentation easier with my new best friend, AI Scribe. If you'd like to meet Jane, and you can also use my code VITALITY for a one month grace period on your new account. /episode/index/show/1db7eeb4-369b-437b-afd3-bd20c714e024/id/36803575

Ep. 40: Embracing Professional Curiosity Through Supervision in OT with Guest, Lynsay McFarlane-Shaw 03/01/2025

Ep. 39: Technology, Reflective Practice, and Business Transitions with Guest, Ruth Duggan 02/03/2025

Ep. 39: Technology, Reflective Practice, and Business Transitions with Guest, Ruth Duggan Whether you're just starting a new OT business, or considering developing a new product, technology, or moving in the direction of retirement, I think you'll find a lot of value in this episode. I am excited to be talking to my friend and colleague, Ruth Duggan. In this episode, we talk about a lot of parallels between the process of starting a business or a product and the familiar assessment and intervention process we use as OTs. We share about our experiences in the early days of starting our businesses and how we've developed new offers and products. Ruth gives us a peek into how she is preparing for that next phase of her business where she's less active in it, and how she is leaving a legacy by transferring her knowledge through the development of an app and related training. You are invited to connect with Ruth at: ______________________________________ We are still looking for participants for our research on the Cognitive Behavioural and Sensory Job Demands Analysis digital assessment tool. Learn more here: ______________________________________ OT Business Owners Need Community The is opening up in March, 2025 for our next cohort. It is a thriving community of OT business owners who support each other, collaborate, co-conspire, co-regulate, and help you not be alone in private practice. Together we build core skills from acceptance and commitment therapy to be more grounded and mindful in our practices, in our work, in our lives, aligning our actions in all domains with our values. We create community so that we can move forward in blazing some trails and doing the things that really matter, building more flow and satisfaction in our lives. to explore this possibility. ______________________________________ To see how Jane can help you reclaim your evenings and weekends, . Or if you're ready to get started, you can use the code VITALITY at the time of signup for a one-month grace period applied to your new account. /episode/index/show/1db7eeb4-369b-437b-afd3-bd20c714e024/id/35131755

Ep. 38: Sisterhood in the Storm - Understanding Perimenopause with Guest, Dr. Fiona Lovely 01/15/2025

Ep. 38: Sisterhood in the Storm - Understanding Perimenopause with Guest, Dr. Fiona Lovely I am thrilled to share this authentic and vulnerable conversation with you. My guest is Dr. Fiona Lovely. You may know her from her mindblowing podcast, Not Your Mother's Menopause. With two decades of experience, Dr. Lovely is a trailblazer in women's health. Specifically focusing on the menopause transition, perimenopause and menopause. Stick with us on this vulnerable and passionate conversation because in it, we share stories of our own experiences and highlight how community and connection are the bedrock for growth and healing in a health system that has only begun to prioritize women's health. Dr. Lovely helps us understand the growing evidence and debunks misconceptions in the menopause narrative. Spoiler alert, but there's a lot in here about social justice and a little bit of swearing. We talk about the mental and physiological shifts women encounter during this time of renovation in our bodies and in our brains, and some myths about cognitive decline. This episode is packed with wisdom, practical advice, and a heartfelt big sister kind of conversation. Whether you're an occupational therapist, someone in their 30s and 40s experiencing symptoms you didn't know were perimenopause, or you're simply interested in understanding this vital aspect of health, there's so much here for you. _______________________________________ Links to resources mentioned in the podcast: Dr. Fiona Lovely's Website: Podcast: - Neuroscience & Women's Health _______________________________________ Are you a therapy business owner seeking a community of support as the whole person at the centre of your business? We will be accepting applicants to the ACTivate Vitality program and community in late January. Let's see if this is a good fit for you by . _______________________________________ A shoutout to our sponsor, Jane.app Jane is an EMR with heart. and be sure to use the code VITALITY for a one month grace period. /episode/index/show/1db7eeb4-369b-437b-afd3-bd20c714e024/id/34866585

Ep. 37: Acceptance and Commitment Therapy in OT, A Practical Guide 11/26/2024

Ep. 36: Erin Clarelli on Challenging Norms with Neurodiversity-Affirming OT 11/17/2024

Ep. 35: Mindfully Occupied, Out and About Mental Health OT With Guest Sarah Good 11/04/2024

Ep. 34: Beyond Business - Real Stories from ACTivate Vitality Members 10/29/2024

Ep. 34: Beyond Business - Real Stories from ACTivate Vitality Members I’m excited to share something really special—a compilation of clips from members who’ve been navigating their own journeys toward values-driven, sustainable work. You’ll hear honest reflections about what it’s like to move from overfunctioning and burnout to building lives and businesses that feel aligned and fulfilling. These are the voices of occupational therapists who’ve joined our community, some initially skeptical about a group coaching format, yet they found that the magic lies in the support, accountability, and growth they share with each other. So if you’ve ever felt stuck in the cycle of overwork or wondered how to build a business that supports your life, not drains it—this episode is for you. Now, if you’re feeling inspired this glimpse into the ACTivate Vitality community and ready to create a sustainable, values-aligned business where you don’t have to go it alone, I’d love to invite you to join us in ACTivate Vitality. This isn’t a ‘one-size-fits-all’ coaching program. We dive into what’s driving your habits, the fears or patterns that may be holding you back, and how to build a life and business that supports you fully. And one of the most powerful parts is the community itself—being surrounded by other OTs on the same journey toward living and working differently. Together, we create the space to grow, connect, and hold each other accountable. Is it time for a change in the way you are showing up as a therapy business owner? If you're listening at the end of October, 2024, enrollment for ACTivate Vitality is open just until the end of this month so hop on a with me today and we can explore how ACTivate Vitality could support your journey. If you're interested at a later date, email me at to find out when it will be available again. Here's a playlist of episodes with some of the brave ACTivate Vitality participants here: And stay tuned for an episode coming soon with Erin Clarelli! To see how Jane can help you focus more on your clients than your costs, . If you're ready to get started, you can use the code VITALITY at the time of signup for a one-month grace period applied to your new account. /episode/index/show/1db7eeb4-369b-437b-afd3-bd20c714e024/id/33666627

Ep. 33: Scarcity Mindset to Sustainable Growth - Jessica Earle’s ACTivate Vitality Story 10/15/2024

Ep. 33: Scarcity Mindset to Sustainable Growth - Jessica Earle’s ACTivate Vitality Story Welcome back BRAVE OTs! I'm really excited about this podcast conversation because it's going to hit home for so many of you who have been trying to balance personal growth with running a business. In this epsiode, I'm chatting with Jessica Earle, a participant in the ACTivate Vitality program and an incredible occupational therapist who's been on quite a journey of transformation, both personally and professionally. Jessica's story is about navigating survival mode, overcoming overfunctioning, and finally, finding a sustainable way to work that aligns with her values. She talks about how the stress of constant transitions, moving across the country to starting her private practice, pushed her to take on too much and how she reached a point where something had to change. We dive into the nitty gritty of how Jessica paused to restructure her business, her schedule, shift her thinking out of scarcity-driven hustle, and found a balance that allows her to thrive without burning out. ✨ ✨ ✨ ✨ If you've ever felt like you're on the burnout train or struggling to find that balance between your personal growth and your business, this conversation is for you. If Jessica's story resonated with you and you're struggling with overfunctioning, burnout, or simply feeling like there's not enough time in the day to do it all, I want to remind you that you don't have to do it alone. ACTivate Vitality is now open for enrollment, and recently we've shifted away from always being open to only accepting new clients during specific periods. Right now, you can book a no-obligation Clarity Call through to the end of October to see if this program is the right fit for you. In we support OT business owners to thrive, both personally and professionally, without the hustle. We focus on aligning your business with your values and building a sustainable, fulfilling career that adds to your life, rather than putting it in some sort of fabricated work-life-balance opposition. If it is time to make that shift and find the support you need, book your Clarity Call here: I'd love for you to grab one of the remaining 8 spaces before enrollment closes on October 30th. Let's work together to create a business and a life that truly aligns with who you are. 🍃 🍃 🍂 🍂 🍃 🍃 🍂 If you'd like to connect with Jessica Earle, owner and OT at New Leaf Occupational Therapy visit her website: 🍃 🍃 🍂 🍂 🍃 🍃 🍂 In the market for an EMR with heart? Check out Jane. She's my right-hand digital helper and when you sign up with the code, VITALITY, listeners will recieve a 1 month grace period on their new subscriptions. Book a demo by clicking here: /episode/index/show/1db7eeb4-369b-437b-afd3-bd20c714e024/id/33470497

Ep. 32: Failing Upward - Embracing Personal Growth as a Trailblazing OT with Guest, Dana Solomon 10/09/2024

Ep. 32: Failing Upward - Embracing Personal Growth as a Trailblazing OT with Guest, Dana Solomon We’re diving into what it really means to build something new from scratch—both personally and professionally. My guest, Dana Solomon, is an occupational therapist who has bravely stepped into the world of pelvic health and entrepreneurship by creating the . In this episode, we talk about her journey, the vulnerability that comes with launching a project that isn't perfect, and how she’s embraced the concept of ‘failing upward’—learning and growing with every step. Dana’s story will resonate with any OT who’s ever felt the pull to create something new, whether it's a practice, a program, or a whole new path in our profession. This episode is all about navigating self-doubt, finding your flow, and making bold moves without waiting for permission. We’ll talk about how bravery in OT isn’t about knowing it all—it’s about being willing to try and evolve through the process. So if you’re ready to be inspired and take action on that project you’ve been dreaming about, this one’s for you! Check out Dana's Links: ____________________________________________ If Dana’s journey of building something new and stepping into the unknown resonates with you, I want to remind you that you don’t have to do it alone. Running a business—whether it’s launching a new project, growing your private practice, or taking the next brave step—requires more than just professional skills. It’s about aligning your work with your values, finding clarity in your direction, and building a business that feels sustainable and fulfilling. That’s why I created —a group coaching program specifically designed for therapy business owners who are ready to integrate personal and professional growth, break free from perfectionism and overfunctioning, and create a business that supports the life they want. It’s where you learn to embrace vulnerability, step into your values, and thrive with the support of a like-minded community. Big Opportunity: We’ve recently made a shift from always being open for enrollment to only accepting new clients during specific periods. And guess what? That time is now! Enrollment is open from now until the end of October. So if you’re feeling stuck, overwhelmed, or just ready for a more sustainable way to work and live, I invite you to between now and October 31st. This is your chance to explore how ACTivate Vitality can support your next brave step in business and in life. Let’s find your flow together. Only 12 spots availabile, and this is the last enrollment period for the year, so don’t wait—this is your time! ____________________________________________ In the market for an EMR with heart? Check out Jane. She's my right-hand digital helper and when you sign up with the code, VITALITY, listeners will recieve a 1 month grace period on their new subscriptions. Book a demo by clicking here: /episode/index/show/1db7eeb4-369b-437b-afd3-bd20c714e024/id/33383497

Ep. 31: Find Your Flow - Explore Your OT Business Through the Kawa Model 09/23/2024

Ep. 30: From Being the Therapist to Coaching Therapists With Guest, Landy Peek 08/31/2024

Ep. 30: From Being the Therapist to Coaching Therapists With Guest, Landy Peek In this episode, I sit down with Landy Peek, a success coach for OT and PT entrepreneurs. We dive deep into the unique challenges therapists face personally and professionally. Landy and I work with similar clients in different ways and we share some of thedifferent ways that we use our backgrounds as therapists in working with the clinicians we coach. We talk about somatic practices, acceptance and commitment therapy, and other ways we help therapists get unstuck. We also discuss the importance of balancing our professional responsibilities with personal wellbeing, and the sometimes overlooked power of group support and shared stories in fostering growth. Landy opens up about her journey from occupational therapist to coaching, her move to Colorado, and the value she places on authenticity, bravery, and embracing one's true self. You'll hear practical strategies for tackling overwhelm and realigning with your values, as well as candid insights into the bravery it takes to step into something new. Whether you're a therapist, a coach, or someone on a personal growth journey, this conversation is filled with just the nuggets you need. ✨✨✨ To connect with Landy, you can visit her website where you can find links to her Facebook and Instagram profiles as well as her free resources. ✨✨✨ “We often stay stuck because we can see what we will lose with more clarity than we can see what we will gain.” Sandra Chuma ✨✨✨ After a pause, I'm preparing to re-open the doors to my signature program, ACTivate Vitality - Rise & Live Fully. If you're a therapy business owner who is looking for more connection, collaboration, and co-regulation so that you can make your business work in a way that feels values-aligned and honours your needs and energy, let's talk! On this page you can find a button to book a call with me and join our upcoming autumn start. ✨✨✨ The BRAVE OT Listeners are treated to a one month grace period when signing up for Jane, the EMR with a human touch. Just use the code VITALITY when you sign up. Learn more at . #therapisttocoach #pelvichealth #somaticexperiencing #trauma #burnout #mindset #subconsciousbeliefs #unstuck #identity #groupcoaching #otentrepreneur #acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy #womenshealth #brave #commnhumanity #occupationaltherapist /episode/index/show/1db7eeb4-369b-437b-afd3-bd20c714e024/id/32835122

Ep. 29: Defining Entrepreneurial Success on Your Own Terms with Guest, Ashley Ballou 07/15/2024

Ep. 28: The Role of Occupational Therapists in the AI Revolution With Alyson Stover and Karen Jacobs 06/03/2024

Ep. 28: The Role of Occupational Therapists in the AI Revolution With Alyson Stover and Karen Jacobs In this episode of The BRAVE OT Podcast, I’m thrilled to bring you a highly motivating conversation with two trailblazing occupational therapists, Alyson Stover and Karen Jacobs, and their courageous journey in reshaping the landscape of occupational therapy by putting a very important occupational therapy stamp on artificial intelligence. Alyson is the president of the American Occupational Therapy Association, an associate professor at the University of Pittsburgh in their Department of Occupational Therapy, and is an occupational therapist and clinic owner at Capable Kids in Pennsylvania. Karen's occupational therapy practice spans over four decades. She is Associate Dean of Digital Learning & Innovation, Program Director of the post-professional doctorate in Occupational Therapy (OT) program, and Clinical Professor at Boston University’s Sargent College of Health & Rehabilitation Sciences. Through this conversation, Alyson shares her how she is embracing bravery through accountability, advocacy, and self-care, while Karen highlights the pivotal role of intentionality and the exciting intersection of occupational therapy and artificial intelligence. We'll explore the transformative potential of AI in healthcare, including the groundbreaking Korro app, which is revolutionizing therapy for children. I encourage you to listen through the lens of your own area of practice. How might you hear what they are doing with this technology and consider how you might embrace AI similarly or differently in your work. OTs have a unique lens, skill set, and collaborative nature that is highly valuable in AI development, which positions us to become leaders in the AI revolution. Whether you're an experienced practitioner or a student, I know you’ll feel inspired by this discussion of bravery and dedication. We also touch on the importance of setting boundaries, leaning into emotional intelligence, and the invaluable connections forged through global OT networks like OT4OT. This conversation highlights the power and potential that lies within our profession—whether it’s advocating for ourselves and our clients, embracing new technologies like AI, or simply taking those brave steps to do what matters in our personal lives. Follow Alyson and Karen through their upcoming blog on the , where they'll continue empowering the OT community with valuable insights and support. You can also reach out to them here by email or social media. Alyson Stover - , Karen Jacobs - , If you enjoyed today's episode, please consider leaving us a review and sharing the podcast with your friends and colleagues. Together, we can continue to build a brave, informed, and connected occupational therapy community. ________________________________________________________________ I will be accepting applications for enrolment from OT practitioners for the until June 15/24, when I pause enrolment. ________________________________________________________________ Be sure to check out the and use the code VITALITY to indicate you're a Brave OT Podcast listener and receive a 1 month grace period. Jane is embracing AI as it evolves features that solve problems for the clinicians in their community. /episode/index/show/1db7eeb4-369b-437b-afd3-bd20c714e024/id/31577102

Ep. 27 Giving Your Therapy Business A Life of Its Own With Guest, Gary Thorne 05/08/2024

Ep. 26: Burning Out in a High-Pressure World with Guest, Mel Homan 04/22/2024

Ep. 26: Burning Out in a High-Pressure World with Guest, Mel Homan In this episode, we're joined by Mel Homan, a fellow OT who has turned her experiences with burnout into a transformative program for others. Whether you're an OT, a helping professional, or anyone navigating the challenges of a demanding career, this episode is packed with insights just for you. We share invaluable insights on overcoming hustle, nurturing our mental health, and the significance of building strong community ties. Mel is extending an invitation for you to join her , which is a great place to continue these discussions on getting out of burnout and you can learn more about her offerings at . If you are an OT... who has been listening and today’s discussion resonated with you, I’d love to know about it. A really great way to do this is to share the episode , or and tag me in the post with any points on what you found helpful about it. If you’re looking for more ways to enhance your vitality and well-being, I invite you to explore my ACTivate Vitality program. It’s designed specifically to create a community of support for OT business owners like you, aiming to get out of the things that hook us into overworking like self-doubt, perfectionism, and fear of failure and get on with loving how you live and work. Remember, you’re not alone in your journey. Let’s continue to build on what we’ve learned today and support each other along the way. You learn from the people around you so make sure you’re surrounding yourself with media and peers who nudge you in the direction you want to be going. Be sure to subscribe to our podcast, leave a review, and share this episode with a colleague or friend who might benefit from our conversation. Jane would love to help carry some of the load in your practice. Check out the features that could make your life easier by . Listeners of The BRAVE OT Podcast will receive a one month grace period on a new Jane account by using the code VITALITY at the time of signup. /episode/index/show/1db7eeb4-369b-437b-afd3-bd20c714e024/id/30941938

Ep. 25: Simplify Your Business with ChatGPT, Guest Brettany Sorokowsky 04/08/2024

Ep. 25: Simplify Your Business with ChatGPT, Guest Brettany Sorokowsky In this episode, down-to-earth business coach, Brettany Sorokowsky shares many tangible tips to help you simplify your business, including some golden instructions on using ChatGPT to streamline your business marketing. Brettany and I found each other because we share values around making your business work for you and not listening to the generic business coaching advice that is regularly thrown our way. What do you love to do? What is an indicator of success in your day? How can you do what you love to achieve success by this definition each day? If you want to reach Brettany, you can find her here: Here are those ChatGPT instructions in case you don't want to take notes. She is specifically talking about turning a podcast into many pieces of content but you can start with any type of long-form content: Transcribe the podcast episode (use an app like Otter.ai or Descript) Copy and paste the interview into ChatGPT and ask for a summary, having programmed your ideal client info in for context Ask ChatGPT for 5 newsletter topics Ask for articles from those topics with specific word count. Ask for 5 motivational quotes related to the topics and your ideal client’s struggles Bulk Create in Canva (do a YouTube Search for how to use this feature, it's a gamechanger) Schedule the posts in a social media scheduler If you're in the mood for spring cleaning your business so that it can feel fresh and light, I'd love to book a breakthrough session with you to see what we can do. Our podcast sponsor, Jane, is offering listeners of The BRAVE OT Podcast a 1 month grace period when you create a new account with their clinic management software if you use the word VITALITY at sign-up. Book your appointment now to make the switch . I'm in the process of a seamless switch right now myself. They've been so helpful! /episode/index/show/1db7eeb4-369b-437b-afd3-bd20c714e024/id/30735308

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