Hemming and Hawing

Pro trail runners Tabor and Eli Hemming pull back the curtain on life in the mountains: racing highs, training lows, and everything wildly unexpected in between. Honest, unfiltered, and sometimes completely off track, this is the laid-back trail running podcast you’ll look forward to every week.

Ep. 13 Why Hardrock Shouldn't Change, Black Canyon Training Talk, Cow Questions 01/22/2026

Ep. 13 Why Hardrock Shouldn't Change, Black Canyon Training Talk, Cow Questions We sit down together for episode 13 and discuss our thoughts on Hardrock lottery/entry hypotheticals, how training for the upcoming Black Canyon 100k is going and lastly we answer some listener questions about our favorite...cows! Enjoy! Contact us: Instagram: @eli_hemming @tabor_hemming Email: Youtube: @TheHemmingsRun /episode/index/show/af78a101-10da-4684-a954-ad367ea42782/id/39819885

Ep. 12 Joshua Tree Traverse Recap, Bicarb Bar and Other Musings 01/12/2026

Ep. 12 Joshua Tree Traverse Recap, Bicarb Bar and Other Musings In this week's espisode, we do a recap of our Joshua Tree Traverse adventure and how we are using it in our Black Canyon 100k prep. Then we dive into bicarb and the bar that just came out plus a lot of other musings along the way. Female Shoe Reviewers: @womensgearindex Contact Us: Email: Instagrams: @tabor_hemming @eli_hemming Youtube: TheHemmingsRun /episode/index/show/af78a101-10da-4684-a954-ad367ea42782/id/39703120

Ep. 11 2025 Training Reflections and Changes Going Forward, Wildlife Encounters, and Shoe Rotation 01/04/2026

Ep. 11 2025 Training Reflections and Changes Going Forward, Wildlife Encounters, and Shoe Rotation We are back! After taking a little sabbatical over the Christmas week, we are here to chat all things 2025. We dive into our 2026 training and how we overhauled it after learning some big lessons from our approach in 2025. Then we answer some listener questions about wildlife encounters and what's in our current shoe rotation. Have a HAPPY NEW YEAR! Contact Us: Email: Instagram: @tabor_hemming @eli_hemming Youtube: @TheHemmingsRun Substack: @TheHemmingway /episode/index/show/af78a101-10da-4684-a954-ad367ea42782/id/39608320

Ep 10. Special Guest Andrew Wise (Trail Runner/Park Ranger/Ski Patroller) 12/21/2025

Ep 10. Special Guest Andrew Wise (Trail Runner/Park Ranger/Ski Patroller) This week we sit down with our close friend and training partner Andrew Wise. In this espisode we discuss how he balances being a National Park Ranger and Ski Patroller while also training to podium at high profile trail races. We, additionally, get his perspective on Michelino Sunseri's pardon. Contact Us: Email: Instagram: @eli_hemming @tabor_hemming Youtube: @thehemmingsrun IRunFar Article: /episode/index/show/af78a101-10da-4684-a954-ad367ea42782/id/39488725

Ep. 9 Is Altitude Training Dead, Kilian's Fat Consumption During WSER, Renaming Ultras 12/14/2025

Ep. 9 Is Altitude Training Dead, Kilian's Fat Consumption During WSER, Renaming Ultras This week we sit down and discuss whether or not we think training at altitude is no longer the hype for endurance athletes, how Kilian's fat consumption possiblity helped his durability in Western States, and why we think ultras should get some updated names. Plus throwing in a listerner question about hills and heart rate. Enjoy! Contact us at: Email: Instagram: @tabor_hemming @eli_hemming Youtube: @thehemmingsrun /episode/index/show/af78a101-10da-4684-a954-ad367ea42782/id/39403700

Ep. 8 Dales Picks, How We Train in the Winter, TROY Picks 12/07/2025

Ep. 8 Dales Picks, How We Train in the Winter, TROY Picks We sit down this week to discuss the announcement of Dales picks for HardRock 100, the ways the we train in the winter and how that differs from our summer training, and finally our TROY picks for the year and who we put on our list. Contact us at: Instagram: @tabor_hemming @eli_hemming Email: aerobicmonsters@gmail.com Youtube: @thehemmingsrun /episode/index/show/af78a101-10da-4684-a954-ad367ea42782/id/39315465

Ep. 7 Turkey Trot Recap, North American Final (we should have one), and Cow Questions Answered 12/01/2025

Ep. 7 Turkey Trot Recap, North American Final (we should have one), and Cow Questions Answered Join us as we talk about our turkey trot over the Thanksgiving holiday, why the TNF 50 miler concept/race should make a return (looking at you Big Alta) and then taking some time to answer some bovine related questions! Contact Us: Instagram: @tabor_hemming @eli_hemming Youtube: /episode/index/show/af78a101-10da-4684-a954-ad367ea42782/id/39229995

Ep. 6: Chris Myers -- Our First Guest Episode 11/22/2025

Ep. 6: Chris Myers -- Our First Guest Episode This week on the podcast, we welcome our first ever guest, Chris Myers. We dive into Chris's Western States success, if he is going back again in 2026, and a lot more! Contact us! Email: Aerobicmonsters@gmail.com Instagram: @Tabor_Hemming @Eli_Hemming Youtube: /episode/index/show/af78a101-10da-4684-a954-ad367ea42782/id/39131595

Ep. 5 World Records, Trump Pardons Trail Runner, Enhanced Games, and Elite Runner Privileges 11/15/2025

Ep. 5 World Records, Trump Pardons Trail Runner, Enhanced Games, and Elite Runner Privileges On Epsiode 5 of Hemming and Hawing, we sit down together and discuss the records broken at Tunnel Hill over the weekend, share out thoughts on Trump's pardon of elite trail runner in our community, opinions on the enhanced games and more. Plus we answer a listener question about race entries and elite runner privilege. Contact us! Email: Aerobicmonsters@gmail.com Instagram: @Tabor_Hemming @Eli_Hemming Youtube: /episode/index/show/af78a101-10da-4684-a954-ad367ea42782/id/39045820

Ep 4. Weekend Down in Boulder, Zach Bitter Going Hi-Carb, and What Our Training Looks Like 11/08/2025

Ep 4. Weekend Down in Boulder, Zach Bitter Going Hi-Carb, and What Our Training Looks Like This week we bring you a weekend recap of our time down in Boulder, CO, answer a listener question about Zach Bitter (famously known for being low-carb) going hi-carb, and then we round it out discussing what are training looks like right now and how it has evolved. Contact us! Email: Aerobicmonsters@gmail.com Instagram: @Tabor_Hemming @Eli_Hemming Youtube: /episode/index/show/af78a101-10da-4684-a954-ad367ea42782/id/38957675

Ep 3. Javelina Recap, CTS vs. Evoke Training Methodologies, Olympic Marathoner Coming to the Trails 11/01/2025

Ep 3. Javelina Recap, CTS vs. Evoke Training Methodologies, Olympic Marathoner Coming to the Trails Join us this week as we do a run down of Javelina Hundred results and how close our predictions were, our unfiltered thoughts on CTS Coach Cliff Pittman's article on muscluar endurance, Olympic Marathoner Molly Seidel's official annoucment of her transition to trail and then just some extra thoughts and updates on life! Come for the Hemmings and stay for the Hawing 🤠 Sam's trail race: Cliff's Article: Contact the Hemmings! Email: Aerobicmonsters@gmail.com Instagram: @Tabor_Hemming @Eli_Hemming Youtube: /episode/index/show/af78a101-10da-4684-a954-ad367ea42782/id/38868705

Javelina Predictions, Kilian's 14er Legitmacy Debate, Our Next Race and More! 10/23/2025

Javelina Predictions, Kilian's 14er Legitmacy Debate, Our Next Race and More! Join us this week as we dive into our predictions for the Javelina Jundred, unpack Kilian’s wild 14er mission (and why he might not have tagged every summit in Colorado), and chat about Courtney’s marathon season — including what we think she has planned for CIM (is she eyeing that OTQ time?). We also share what’s next on our own race calendar and plenty more along the way. Tune in and hang out with us! Contact the Hemmings! Email: Aerobicmonsters@gmail.com Instagram: @Tabor_Hemming @Eli... /episode/index/show/af78a101-10da-4684-a954-ad367ea42782/id/38849500

We started a podcast! + End of the season recap 10/20/2025

We started a podcast! + End of the season recap Welcome to the very first episode of Hemming and Hawing! In this episode, Tabor and Eli (the Hemmings) do their best not to get too sidetracked as they share why they decided to start a podcast. They also catch up on where they’ve been and what they’ve been up to during their break from social media. It’s a laid-back, honest start to what’s to come! Let us know anything you want us to chat about in the future! Contact the Hemmings! Email: Aerobicmonsters@gmail.com Instagram: @Tab... /episode/index/show/af78a101-10da-4684-a954-ad367ea42782/id/38849505

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