Are We Here Yet Podcast
We're telling the stories of entrepreneurs artists and other creative class warriors making a go of it in cities and small towns all over the country. The Are We Here Yet? Podcast blends topics of economic development, urban planning and arts and culture. We are the official podcast for SMGravesassociates.com.
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Up End This: Housing Solutions from Vermont
07/25/2024
Up End This: Housing Solutions from Vermont
Up End This is a custom modular housing solution, a startup located in Johnson, VT. It’s founder Michael Zebrowski is the kind of entrepreneur that everyone can both connect with and look up to. He and his family have weathered the recent floods and the more daily mundane challenges inherent in owning your own business. They are looking to grow with a smart strategy and an eye towards the future of de-centralized housing solutions. We spoke about how decisions made on materials and design can offer solutions to the challenges of building in our current environment. We discussed the challenge of contemporary vs. traditional vernacular in the marketplace and a whole lot more that folks in the trades and consumers alike can find connection to.
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Innova802: The Battle for Data Privacy Rights in Vermont
07/22/2024
Innova802: The Battle for Data Privacy Rights in Vermont
We begin our episode with an interview co-host Scott M. Graves held with Vermont State Rep. Monique Priestley (D-Bradford) regarding the latest on the bill she is co-sponsoring. was vetoed by Gov. Phil Scott at the end of the 2024 legislative session and upheld by the Vermont Senate. We offer our listeners the latest on the future of the bill from Monique, Many citizens and small business leaders are not informed on the importance of data privacy rights to their lives and businesses. Further, many people do not have a comprehensive understanding for what's at stake and exactly how their information is used and potentially abused every day. We offer our listeners some definition around the issue and perspective from both the voters, small business professionals and technology companies.
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Don’t Give Up: The Hudson River Park’s Tom Fox Plus Arturo O’Farrill in The Jazz Room
07/16/2024
Don’t Give Up: The Hudson River Park’s Tom Fox Plus Arturo O’Farrill in The Jazz Room
Since 1975, Tom Fox has been at the forefront of urban park and waterfront development primarily in New York City. His creative thinking, commitment to community engagement and coalition building, use of unique funding mechanisms, and knowledge of government and the media have resulted in revitalized waterfronts and waterways, new parks, greenways and community gardens that have made the city a more desirable and sustainable place to live, work, and visit. A working class kid from Brooklyn, Tom’s work has required a lot of creativity when it comes to financial planning. It’s required knowledge of government, media and it’s also required an ever-refined sense for relationships and how to keep things moving. Tom’s also been resilient. He’s seen the development of the Hudson River Park from the outset and he knows how to win, lose and just keep going. On top of also being a successful entrepreneur. Tom is the author of ‘Creating the Hudson River Park: Environmental and Community Activism, Politics, and Greed and it’s the story he tells us here that’s why Tom is joining us today. ... In The Jazz Room We met Pianist, Composer Arturo O‘Farrill after his set at the Newport Jazz Festival. We talked about his Grammy winning album “Four Questions”. In part 1 we talk about the influence of Dr. Cornell West and the ”Four Questions” as the inspiration for his album. Learn more about Arturo at .
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Life Imitating Art: What’s wrong with Jazz Plus Claudia Acuna in The Jazz Room
07/10/2024
Life Imitating Art: What’s wrong with Jazz Plus Claudia Acuna in The Jazz Room
Erica Von Kleist is performing artist, educator, businesswoman, colorful commentator on any number of the more ridiculous intersections between art and modern life and wouldn’t you know, she plays the saxophone to top it all off and we have to acknowledge, just had the premiere of three new arrangements at no less than Carnegie Hall. I’ve admired her work for many years now and thought about asking for an interview for the AWHY podcast, it was the commentary of many of our peers in and out of music to a social media post by a third party some months ago that finally brought us here. It seems that within music education circles, art is certainly imitating life. With one comment by a young-ish undergrad regarding the behavior of collegiate faculty in music departments that we got a whole lot of ‘Boomer’ and ‘kids these days’ type of repartee. So what gives when we’re all just trying to get along? Wouldn’t we be more useful to each other by crossing the threshold of generational divides? I thought that was what Jazz was all about anyways, we’re hoping Erica can set us straight. And in the Jazz Room… We had a fun interview with Grammy nominated, singer/composer Claudia Acuna at the Newport Jazz Festival. She talks about the inspirations for her songs. You’ll hear cuts from her albums “Duo” and ”Turning Pages” . Learn more at
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Join or Die: Getting Radically Rural Plus Jazzmeia Horn in The Jazz Room
06/20/2024
Join or Die: Getting Radically Rural Plus Jazzmeia Horn in The Jazz Room
“Rural communities do not exist solely to be extracted from. They are also generative, they can host tech, sic (the example from) our radically Rural biotech (program) is to not just bring (biotech) to but grow from the people and places we already have.” Julianna Dodson, Director of and Deputy Director for the spoke with us regarding the well documented need and regenerative benefit of our relationships in order for community development, the kind that is lasting and has a net positive effect, to develop. It was clear from our conversation Julianna has a deep commitment to her work and that of countless others bringing people together for business and social benefit in her community of Keene, NH. For those of us building local economies through tech or creative class industries, building a socially cohesive environment is essential for realizing a desirable city to live in. ...And in the The Jazz Room: We met with singer/composer/arranger Jazzmeia Horn at the Newport Jazz Festival. We talked about her CD “Dear Love” and her big band, ”Noble Force”. .
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A BHM Report: Bi-Partisanship Reforms Housing in Big Sky Country Plus Christie Dasheil in The Jazz Room
06/13/2024
A BHM Report: Bi-Partisanship Reforms Housing in Big Sky Country Plus Christie Dasheil in The Jazz Room
"I DON’T THINK THE ‘MONTANA MIRACLE’ IS A ONE-TIME FLUKE. I THINK IT CAN REPRESENT A NEW PARADIGM OF POLITICS IN MONTANA, WHERE THE LEFT AND RIGHT JOIN TOGETHER IN COMMON BELIEF THAT MONTANANS MUST BE FREE TO BUILD, INNOVATE, AND PROGRESS IN ORDER TO OVERCOME THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES FACING OUR STATE." So we opened our Season Nine here at the ‘Are We Here Yet?’ podcast with this quote from Kendall Cotton. He is Executive Director of the . We met earlier this year after . What caught my attention and compelled me to reach out to him was his thoughts on the housing crisis. In our discussion we focused much time on how the current housing market is affecting Big Sky Country and especially on the solutions this rural state has brought to the table including re-thinking zoning and passing which offers developers funding in order they may pass savings on to the future homeowner. Additionally, Kendall and I spoke regarding other initiatives important to the institute and to Montana’s 21st century economy including #artificial intelligence, #dataprivacy and the government and how these sectors affect each other in the rural places we call home. The similarities with our other rural states abound. The bipartisanship baked into the efforts of the Frontier Institute are an example to others working on substantive solutions to our rural development challenges. You’ll find Kendall on twitter @Cotton_MT And in The Jazz Room… We enjoyed our conversation with singer, Christie Dasheil. She talks about her CD “Journey in Black” and what it was like growing up in a musical family.
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Venture Capital Igniting Rural America? Plus Chelsea Baratz in The Jazz Room
05/24/2024
Venture Capital Igniting Rural America? Plus Chelsea Baratz in The Jazz Room
Many rural regions of the US appear to be at the vanguard of a de-centralization of venture capital. Specifically, we are seeing a gradual increase in interest on the part of those controlling venture capital streams to ensure we go beyond Boston, New York, San Francisco and Austin. So can Venture Capital ignite rural economies? What other critical mass changes are necessary to realize resilient rural economies capable of creating well-paying and meaningful jobs in innovation? This is the focus of our conversation. Our guest and is Lauren Bass, Executive Director of in Burlington, VT. LaunchVT is a project of the and Lauren is a seasoned and cosmopolitan entrepreneur with experience in multiple innovation sectors. And in The Jazz Room…We met with many artists at the Pittsburgh International Jazz Festival. We talked with saxophonist, Chelsea Baratz and her dog King. She talks about growing up in Pittsburgh and the musicians and teachers who encouraged her, and, her CD “In Faith”
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What do Our Value Systems Say about Our Values? Plus Orrin Evans in The Jazz Room
05/10/2024
What do Our Value Systems Say about Our Values? Plus Orrin Evans in The Jazz Room
We had the distinct Pleasure to speak with Daniel Parkins with a rather broad question to answer: What does the way we assign value to commerce, global policy, culture and just about everything else in our community tell us about our society. Does it reflect our weaknesses or our strengths? What does it say about the health of our communities, about the health of our inner self? In an era where most of us question globalization, where students are questioning our values while taking to the streets in protest, just what are we getting right and what are we getting wrong? That’s next here on the Are We Here Yet? Podcast. Daniel Parkins is founder of Community Wealth Development LLC (CWD), a grassroots consulting firm, dedicated to generating local community ownership over economic initiatives and social programs intended to generate wealth in their community. Through expanding access to justice and creating new economic opportunity for local residents, CWD is committed to building strategic partnerships that foster strength through diversity and that are formed for the sake of equity building within communities and for the benefit of communities. He helps businesses and local civic leaders work with communities to transform conflicts, launch impact initiatives, and achieve sustainable growth. And In the Jazz Room… We met pianist/composer, Orrin Evans at the Pittsburgh International Jazz Festival. In part two we talk about the origins of a couple of songs featured on his CD and learn about the musicians who are on this CD with him.
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Is there a Vermont Way? plus Gary Burton Part II in The Jazz Room
05/03/2024
Is there a Vermont Way? plus Gary Burton Part II in The Jazz Room
Our Vermont tech team was joined by . Josh works with individuals, organizations, and communities to cultivate vision and resourcefulness in the face of uncertainty and socio-ecological transitions. He is currently on the faculty of Haverford College. Josh is currently visiting faculty with us in Vermont at UVM. He joined our conversation dealing with why and how our tech sector requires the perspective of the fine and performing arts and other, broader disciplines defined as humanities. Is there a Vermont way when it comes to the tech sector? What of Ryan Munn's contention that rural sectors have never in history worked well for its people and we're perhaps on the cusp of that changing through rural economics rooted in latest technology. (Extractive vs. non-extractive economics). It seems as of late no matter the subset of ideas we're recording about these days the ever-present issue of our changing climate enters the lexicon. So too a discussion towards democracy and what it means to be a valuable citizen. This recording was no different and our guest provided plenty for the group and you, our listeners to consider as we all consider how Vermont and our tech sector could lead with smart, balanced and informed solutions to work within our complex adaptive environment. Big thanks to our friends at the for hosting our recording session. ...And in the Jazz Room In part two of our interview Gary Burton tells us about his work with George Shearing and Stan Getz. He also talks about the "inner player" that is within us all.
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The Medtech Innovators at Aprexis plus Orrin Evans in The Jazz Room
04/18/2024
The Medtech Innovators at Aprexis plus Orrin Evans in The Jazz Room
The folks at Vermont-based medtech startup are no strangers to the definition of persistence. This is the just the start of why the podcast desired to In this episode you’ll learn the importance for rooting a medtech solutions company from the clinicians perspective. We spoke at length regarding the challenges unique to medtech software firms, namely the challenge to working in an iterative technology that comes up against regulatory imperatives for launching fully developed. We defined MTM or medication therapy management and discussed the growing marketplace as professionals in pharmacology work with a growing geriatric population in an ever-expanding pharma-marketplace. And in The Jazz Room… We met pianist/composer, Orrin Evans at the Pittsburgh International Jazz Festival. In part one of this interview we talk about his CD “The Red Door”, the meaning of Red, the Jazz Train and Jazz elders.
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Artificial Intelligence at Hypersonic Speed: An Ecliptic Capital Report plus Gary Burton in The Jazz Room
04/11/2024
Artificial Intelligence at Hypersonic Speed: An Ecliptic Capital Report plus Gary Burton in The Jazz Room
David J. Neff serves as Operating Partner at Austin, TX based where he works with portfolio companies on people, process,, marketing, strategy and culture. he spearheads the fund’s concentration on climate change and energy transition as part of ecliptic Capital’s deep tech thesis. Our conversation is focused on the recent report Ecliptic released offering a comprehensive look at considerations for the consequences of Artificial Intelligence called, And we talk with Vibraphonist, Gary Burton. We were able to catch up with him at the 60th Newport Jazz Festival. In the first in our two part interview, Gary tells us about when he started playing the vibes and about his Autobiography that was published in 2013.
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From the Culture Desk: Pianist & Magazine Publisher David Haney
04/04/2024
From the Culture Desk: Pianist & Magazine Publisher David Haney
It was so interesting to talk with pianist, David Haney. Based in Portland, Oregon David travels often to NYC to perform at Joe’s Pub. Since 2012 he’s been the publisher and contributing editor of Cadence Magazine Online. In this two part interview we listen to performances of Improvised compositions featuring David and his friends. David discusses how he became publisher of Cadence Magazine Online.
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One View of Vermont’s Future - Kevin Chu of Vermont Futures Project
03/28/2024
One View of Vermont’s Future - Kevin Chu of Vermont Futures Project
Kevin Chu is Executive Director of the People from throughout the United States can access their thoughtful and well researched information in order to make the case for workforce, middle market, affordable and any other form of housing needed. The core goal driving the work of the organization is to increase Vermont’s population while providing good housing to a more diverse population. The information provided by the project goes well beyond just addressing housing. Like many rural states Vermont’s demographic changes are placing pressure on communities and every system that drives a population. Our conversation brought us together to discuss not only housing from a development and economic standpoint but from a perspective of what’s fair and what’s right for rural citizens of Vermont, immigrants and those US citizens eying Vermont as their land of opportunity.
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Premiere of The Vermont Tech Special Feature
03/20/2024
Premiere of The Vermont Tech Special Feature
Join Vermont tech leaders Will Jeffries, Ryan Munn and Scott Graves as they discover the best this Brave Little State has to offer in technology-driven entrepreneurship. Maybe you’re local, maybe you have a rural project in another part of the country, maybe you just love to talk technology and tech policy. We want YOU to come with us, listen in and join the neighborhood. #ruraldevelopment #techinvestment #ruralinnovation Like what you hear? Have a episode topic you want us to tackle? Let us know.
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A BHM report: The Housing Crisis from Massachusetts Plus: Bertha Hope in The Jazz Room
03/12/2024
A BHM report: The Housing Crisis from Massachusetts Plus: Bertha Hope in The Jazz Room
The housing crisis gripping the United States is gaining a disconcerting momentum in the Northeast, as it is in many regions of the United States. In this episode we’re speaking with Worcester, MA developer Jackson Restrepo regarding the challenges to the housing market in this, the second largest city in New England and one of the fastest growing cities there, as the Biotech sector continues to grow in Massachusetts. This is the second in our ongoing series of episodes focused on the housing crisis in the US for Breaking Housing Matters. Also, meet pianist, Bertha Hope. She talks about her husband Elmo Hope and her CD "Nothing But Love" featuring drummer Jimmy Cobb as part of her ensemble.
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How Immigration Affects Tech in America w/ Davide Dantonio
03/07/2024
How Immigration Affects Tech in America w/ Davide Dantonio
We all hear about the importance of international talent to the US technology sector. We understand how an open set of arms to international trade, travel and immigration plays a role in our country’s success. But our historic relationship to immigration tells a much more complicated story and with the recent threat of closed borders as posed by a possible Trump 2024 administration, we wanted to take a closer look at the lived experience of those plying the waters of our current international tech sector to really find an explanation for why an open society is so very important. Our guest represents the human personification, the energy that comes to us and makes our tech sector vibrant and our country great. Davide Dantonio is with us for this podcast. He’s a Class of ’22 Venture for America fellow and currently plays program lead on no less than 2 Indiana-based gener8tor accelerators. He’s also a podcaster in his own rite. Davide is also Program Manager for two Indiana based programs for , a rural-focused technology fund operating more than 223 accelerators nation-wide. We’re talking multiculturalism and the lived experience of young entrepreneurs living and working in America.
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The Big ‘D’ in Decentralize/Lakecia Benjamin
02/15/2024
The Big ‘D’ in Decentralize/Lakecia Benjamin
Scott M. Graves, host of the ‘Are We Here Yet? Podcast speaks to us regarding the importance for small cities and towns to take advantage of the opportunity recently presented to solve some of the most pressing economic and social issues of our day. ‘For we are, I’m sure of this, at the start of a national movement to decentralize the map. For placing venture capital where it’s needed most, for updating outmoded zoning laws so we can start rebuilding our built environments to serve all of our neighbors and financing policies so more Americans can access the housing they desire. Here’s to transforming our cities and towns for a new generation.’ The Jazz Room w/ Lakecia Benjamin Meet saxophonist, composer, Lakecia Benjamin. We met briefly after her set at the Newport Jazz Festival. She talks about her CD, “Phoenix” and the story behind the project.
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Breaking Housing Matters/Kurt Elling
02/05/2024
Breaking Housing Matters/Kurt Elling
With a background in housing policy, law and international business, author and business leader Peter de Krassel has witnessed the long arc of bad housing policy across the globe. He is launching as a novel means to solve the global housing crisis, one that is designed to address the impasses our current system of financing and policy has created over the last half century or more. Breaking Housing Matters (BHM) is a grassroots movement dedicated to delivering affordable housing profitably. We believe landlords and developers must get a reasonable return on their investment while people must be able to afford decent housing. Our proposed Housing Subsidy Solution (HSS) could become a public-private model for local communities to achieve affordable housing profitably around the world. Full disclosure: AWHY? Podcast host Scott Graves is now agent to BHM. Working with SMGraves Associates, Breaking Housing Matters intends to develop its program to proliferate throughout the United States beginning with the leadership of the city of Rutland, VT, USA. The Jazz Room welcomes Kurt Elling Our interview with Kurt Elling at the Pittsburgh International Jazz Festival includes stories about the people who have lifted him up through the years and his personal observations of The Jazz Room during his visit.
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AI & NeuroDiversity: A conversation with Dr. Meltem Ballan, Ph.D.
01/27/2024
AI & NeuroDiversity: A conversation with Dr. Meltem Ballan, Ph.D.
We’re launching a closer look at Artificial Intelligence; how it has and will shape our society. How you can shape an informed perspective around what’s sure to play a significant role effecting all of us for centuries to come. Rather than do this investigation from a good/bad standpoint, we’d rather treat all of YOU, our listeners as the smart and curious people that you are! So away we go! Our guest, Dr. Meltem Ballan, Ph.D. has decades of experience in digital technology, data science, and AI. She is a leader, entrepreneur, and advisor who is passionate about creating innovative and impactful solutions for complex problems. She is the principal and founder of Additionally, Meltem is a Venture Partner with She holds a PhD in complex systems and brain sciences, with a focus on computer vision, visual cortex, and natural language processing. She is committed to fostering true diversity and inclusion in the STEM domain, especially AI and data science. We’re looking at AI and neurodiversity in today’s podcast.
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Fighting for Rural Arts Education plus Jose James in The Jazz Room
01/19/2024
Fighting for Rural Arts Education plus Jose James in The Jazz Room
Regional Artist and VSU Castleton student Julie Griffin fills us in on the artist response to the latest attempt by Vermont State University to curtail budget constraints by consolidating fine and performing arts programming between its campuses. Find out what was the response to the proposed change by artists and students alike, get inspired by their response for when you need to organize and constructively show your dissatisfaction with institutional decision-makers. Mentioned in this podcast: , , The Jazz Room featuring Singer / Songwriter Jose James Meet singer/songwriter Jose James. We met with him at the Pittsburgh International Jazz Festival. We talked about his CD “ON and ON”, the challenges of interpreting the songs of songwriters and his work as singing on the sound track for the movie “50 Shades Darker” Learn more at
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On Peace plus: Dave Holland in the Jazz Room
01/11/2024
On Peace plus: Dave Holland in the Jazz Room
A Definition of Peace from Daniel Parkins. He helps businesses and local civic leaders work with communities to transform conflicts, launch impact initiatives, and achieve sustainable growth. Find Daniel here: and in The Jazz Room: we were able to chat a bit with bassist, Dave Holland just before his set at the Newport Jazz Festival. We talked about the musicians with him on that date and he answered questions from our friend Dave Zox. Learn more about Dave at
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Ep. 134-Space City Innovation
12/31/2023
Ep. 134-Space City Innovation
In an age of decentralizing the map when it comes to venture capital, place takes center stage for an increasing number of communities whose neighborhoods benefit from innovation centers, coworking space, workforce development space and the like. Our guest Robert Pieroni has his own story to tell in founding Downtown Launchpad in Houston, Texas. He’s a successful VC and is currently Director – gBETA ITA & Director of Italian Business Development for our good friends at and he’s with us today to recount his experience building space and the programming to ignite it.
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Knowledge Towns w/ Dominic Endicott
12/29/2023
Knowledge Towns w/ Dominic Endicott
Dominic Endicott believes we can redraw our maps for the 21st century. He has a vision for how knowledge-based ecosystems can create the proliferation of entrepreneurship, jobs, real estate and services in demand for a wider spectrum of rural and urban communities. He spoke with us to talk about his vision as expressed in ‘Knowledge Towns: Colleges and Universities as talent magnets’ which he co-authored with David J. Staley of Ohio State University. Dominic is a partner at NorthStar Ventures and an advisor at the MET fund.
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AWHY - Ep 132 - Ted Timreck
09/02/2023
AWHY - Ep 132 - Ted Timreck
To spend some time re-imagining the story of what came well before us on the North American continent has importance for understanding our future path towards a more equitable and just society. Our modern obsession with consumerism and modernity, emphasizing technology to solve our key issues isn’t working because people, not machines are at the core of our solutions. Our discussion with award-winning documentarian Ted Timreck invites you, our listener, to more closely examine epigenetics in a re-consideration for the cultures of the peoples who once shaped our continent. Consider the importance of environment in shaping us and our world, perhaps in doing so we, the technologists building for tomorrow can build that future to include more of us while building sustainability and meaningfulness; technology in its proper context.
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TJR - Three for the Price of One
09/02/2023
TJR - Three for the Price of One
Three for the Price of One: We had to take a brief break for summer vacation. So M the Media Project is giving you three for the price of one! Joan’s two part interview with our generation’s progenitor of the great American Songbook, none other than Michael Feinstein plus we feature Claire Daly, all in the latest Jazz Room.
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Building The Authentic Leader
06/30/2023
Building The Authentic Leader
Authors John DiCicco, Ph.D. and Robert Cuomo, Ph.D. of ‘The Authentic Leader’ have shared their wealth of experience honed in business ownership and academia in order to complete a crusade of sorts. A crusade to make change where it counts. John and Bob will join (anticipated fall 2023) in developing a program to engage emerging business leaders to better prepare them for the moral hazards sometimes inherent in complex business models. They are at the vanguard of creating a more consistently moral and clear-headed technology business community. This is also aimed at StartUp Rutland’s priority on creating better informed, morally sound technology-based business for our new regional economy to come.
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Alto Saxophonist Tia Fuller
06/30/2023
Alto Saxophonist Tia Fuller
From her 2021 Interview from the summer phenomenon known as the Newport Jazz Festival, host Joan Watson Jones spoke with the fantastic alto saxophonist Tia Fuller. Enjoy as you imagine the Newport bridge view, the sea salt air and the magic of thousands of friends gathering to hear their favorite jazz artists.
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The Devilish World of PermaGrin
06/22/2023
The Devilish World of PermaGrin
Host Scott M. Graves sat down with Dan Cummings and old pal Steven Harnois from PermaGrin, the fantasmic music project that originated as a pandemic project which has resulted in the album, ‘Ode to Entropy. We entice you to listen in with four aural excerpts from said album. From the moment I heard this album I was enthralled and wrote a friend, ‘Brah, it’s like these dudes went to sleep with Hot Rats and The Grand Wazoo on repeat and then woke up the next day to the rest of their lives…’ We hope our interview with Perma Grin represents a new start for you, too. Listen in and let us know what you think in the comments.
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Emerging Technologies from the Rural Northeast
06/17/2023
Emerging Technologies from the Rural Northeast
I spoke with Ryan Munn, tech professional and devotee to trends in emerging technology about what potential we have in northern New England, particularly Vermont-centric possibilities in industries such as financial services, building materials, renewable energy and climate tech. Ryan is a resident of White River Junction, VT and works throughout the central VT region. Garner ideas and reach out to us and let us know your new ideas. Join the conversation in our comments section.
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Eddie Palmieri Part II
06/17/2023
Eddie Palmieri Part II
In Part 2 of this feature Eddie tells us about the many musicians he has collaborated with through the years to make his music not just Latin and not just Jazz but his own brand and style. He also shares stories about his performances across the globe. Learn more about Eddie Palmieri at
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