Brewbound Podcast
The Brewbound Podcast is an extension of Brewbound’s leading B2B beer industry reporting, featuring interviews with beer industry executives and entrepreneurs, along with highlights and commentary from the weekly news. New episodes are released every Thursday. Send comments and suggestions to podcast@brewbound.com.
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Why Stadium Partnerships can be the ‘Ultimate Sampling Weapon’ with Two Robbers’ Vivek and Vikram Nayar
10/14/2026
Why Stadium Partnerships can be the ‘Ultimate Sampling Weapon’ with Two Robbers’ Vivek and Vikram Nayar
Two Robbers Spirits Co.’s partnership with the Philadelphia Eagles is helping the 7-year-old company fly. On the latest edition of the Brewbound Podcast, Two Robbers founders Vivek and Vikram Nayar share how partnerships with Philadelphia pro sports teams have helped raise their local profile and increase rate of sale in off-premise retailers. “It’s sort of like the ultimate sampling weapon being able to sell in the stadium,” Vivek said. “People talk about how valuable sampling is, but it’s even more valuable if someone pays for your product to try it and enjoys it that way.” Two Robbers is entering Year 2 of its sponsorship with the NFL’s Philadelphia Eagles, a deal that allows them to leverage the Eagles’ marks on packaging. The Nayars are planning to open up their portfolio playbook this year, introducing single-serve cans featuring the Eagles’ logo exclusive to on-premise retailers starting this month. Vivek and Vikram go deep on their long-term vision for sports partnerships and explain how the company’s pivot from hard seltzer to spirits-based cocktails future proofed the business. They also explain why they believe there’s room for multiple brands to compete in the category, even in a ready-to-drink stronghold such as Philadelphia. Before the interview, the Brewbound team catches up on their travels, with road reports from the National Beer Wholesalers Association (NBWA) Annual Convention and the Great American Beer Festival (GABF). Brewbound editor Justin Kendall, managing editor Jessica Infante and senior reporter Zoe Licata offer takeaways from the first day of the NBWA’s biggest meeting of the year, including a strong push for franchise law protections and more ironclad contracts with producers, along with the conspicuous lack of hemp talk on the first day. Plus, Jessica shares her firsthand experience at the revamped GABF, including what worked for the outdoor festival, what didn’t and what we’re hearing might be next. The team also covers the big deal of the last week: Constellation Brands’ acquisition of SpikedAde for $75 million, with a five-year performance-based earnout that could add $278 million to the sale price. They explain why Constellation dipping its toe into M&A is the bigger story even as hard sports drinks dominate headlines.
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How a Tech Firm is Trying to Make ABP Season Not Feel like Groundhog Day
10/07/2026
How a Tech Firm is Trying to Make ABP Season Not Feel like Groundhog Day
As far as we know, Bill Murray has never worked for a brewer or a distributor, but employees of both have probably identified with Phil Connors, the character he played in Groundhog Day who was forced to relive the same day over and over. Tech firm Groundhog thinks it has eliminated the recurring sameness of the annual business plan (ABP) process with collaborative software that ensures brewers and distributors are aligned and able to follow through on objectives. On the latest edition of the Brewbound Podcast, founders Chris Russell and Eric Rabinovitz share the pain points they’re trying to solve and how they plan to streamline the process to avoid that Groundhog Day feeling when brands and distributors meet months later. Before the interview, Brewbound’s Justin Kendall and Jessica Infante recap the latest news, including Diageo’s plans to shutter the Guinness Open Gate Brewery in Baltimore, Mars backing away from its BuzzBallz collab, the end of the FTC’s price discrimination probe into Southern Glazer’s Wine & Spirits and Deschutes’ entry into hard sports drinks.
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Stateside’s Matt Quigley on Super Lyte Summer as Hard Sports Drinks Explode
09/30/2026
Stateside’s Matt Quigley on Super Lyte Summer as Hard Sports Drinks Explode
How do you balance two brands that are runaway successes? Stateside Brands president Matthew Quigley explained on the latest edition of the Brewbound Podcast how the maker of vodka iced tea brand Surfside is juggling the addition of Super Lyte, a non-carbonated hard sports drink (vodka + ade). From a marketing perspective, Stateside has created dedicated teams for each brand, he explained. On the sales side, the company has built a national accounts team and stable of state managers who, after two years, finally have the bandwidth to take on another brand. The result is another brand in Super Lyte that is being dubbed the drink of the summer, while Surfside is on pace to sell 13 million cases this year, Quigley shared. Meanwhile, Super Lyte is expected to sell four million cases by year’s end, making it the largest spirits-based ready-to-drink (RTD) launch of all time, he added. “It shot the lights out in our core in Pennsylvania, Jersey, New York,” he said. “It just went gangbusters and it’s still doing incredibly, incredibly well.” Stateside is now pushing Super Lyte into 40-plus states to gain a “first-mover advantage” with a host of new challenger brands entering the hard sports drink segment, Quigley said. The target now is for both brands to cross the 25-million-case threshold. “If they both get over 25 million cases, which is like High Noon’s highwater mark, I’m a happy guy,” Quigley said. “I think I’ve done my job. Time will tell.” Ahead of the interview, Brewbound’s Jessica Infante and Zoe Licata breakdown the the latest headlines, including: Samuel Adams front of house workers’ successful unionization effort; Mark Anthony’s termination of Coors Distributing in the Denver metro; The end of Stateside’s lawsuit against Anheuser-Busch InBev over its Skimmers brand. The duo also tackles the NFL’s crackdown on player celebrations pantomiming drinking a beer (or juice).
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Inside the Intoxicating Hemp Beverage Business as Federal Ban Nears
09/23/2026
Inside the Intoxicating Hemp Beverage Business as Federal Ban Nears
Intoxicating hemp beverages as they appear now may vanish from the market in mid-December. A looming federal ban was delayed a month, but the industry hasn’t slowed down amid the existential threat. BevNET and Nosh senior reporter Lukas Southard joins the Brewbound Podcast to give a pulse check on the market, alternatives that may be in play if a ban goes into effect and why some states may ignore the ban altogether. “When people are being realistic … most of them concede that the December 12th deadline will pass without regulatory being in place,” Southard said. “And that brands and stakeholders in this industry are gonna need to at least bide their time into 2027 until some type of regulatory framework is put into place.” Before the interview, the Brewbound team discusses the latest news, including C4’s beer-flavored energy drink; Kroger pulling Red Bull from shelves, Tilray’s positioning of BrewDog as an Ohio craft beer brand and the Shock Top-Spirit Halloween candy corn beer collab.
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A Black Rose, a Big Money Resolution and Bleak Scans
09/16/2026
A Black Rose, a Big Money Resolution and Bleak Scans
On the latest edition of the Brewbound Podcast, the team analyzes the tectonic shifts in the bev-alc market in the last week, including: Constellation Brands giving Coors Distributing Company the proverbial black rose, with plans to terminate their relationship in the next 30 days, and the odds of its portfolio heading to the Reyes Beverage Group, which entered Colorado earlier this year; Southern Glazer’s Wine & Spirits paying $12.5 million to resolve a federal probe into bribes given to retail chain grocery buyers; Underwhelming Labor Day off-premise scans; A major equipment manufacturer shuttering its brewing division; And more industry upheaval. Brewbound’s Justin Kendall, Jessica Infante and Zoe Licata also ponder the creation of the Two-Zie, a double koozie from mid-strength beer maker Dad Strength.
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Von Ebert’s Dashawn Agbonze on Failing in Safe Spaces and the Importance of Brewing Education
09/09/2026
Von Ebert’s Dashawn Agbonze on Failing in Safe Spaces and the Importance of Brewing Education
Von Ebert Brewing brewer Dashawn Agbonze sees himself as the “fun police” – a badge he wears proudly, much like the German brewers that he admires. “I’m always like, ‘Why are we doing this?’” Agbonze said on the latest edition of the Brewbound Podcast. “Ultimately, like the Germans, I don’t believe in magic. I need an explanation. Let’s talk it out. Part of that is, let’s train people so that everyone can see the same vision and we have the same goal because we know exactly how to get there.” Agbonze, a two-time Michael James Jackson Foundation for Brewing and Distilling (MJF) scholarship awardee, shares his journey climbing the ranks of the brewing industry and why he believes education is critical for up-and-coming brewers. “The education is important because it enables you to be in a controlled space to fail,” he explained. “You’re not putting a business on the line. You don’t have employees with families that you have to risk in order to learn that ‘Hey, a clean tank would make the beer that you want,’ or ‘Hey, contamination via your canning line can happen,’ or how to solve these problems in a safe space.” Failures in a learning environment become key lessons in training the next generation of brewers, Agbonze shares. Before the interview, the Brewbound team discusses the latest news, including a major departure from Whole Foods’ bev-alc team, an update on Pabst’s stolen beer, the Beer Institute’s latest beer supply data and FIFCO USA’s new owner and new/old name. Brewbound managing editor Jessica Infante also shares highlights from her trip to Asheville for the annual business planning meetings at Highland Brewing and Sierra Nevada.
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Hard Sports Drinks, Industry Layoffs and Pabst’s Stolen Beer
09/02/2026
Hard Sports Drinks, Industry Layoffs and Pabst’s Stolen Beer
The summer selling season wraps up this weekend with Labor Day Monday, and one of the hottest segments of the summer has been hard sports drinks. Brewbound editor Justin Kendall and senior reporter Zoe Licata dive into the fast-growing segment and how their views have shifted on it over the last year. They look at who is leading the segment now and new entrants looking to fast-follow, including Boston Beer Company. The duo also recap several rounds of layoffs, including Sapporo USA’s wind-down of the Stone Brewing-branded locations in Escondido, California; Mark Anthony’s integration of the Finnish Long Drink and coming sales team cuts; and Diageo’s ongoing $1.2 billion restructuring effort hitting its NYC headquarters. Plus, Justin and Zoe discuss low-ABV beers (and Justin cracks Sierra Nevada’s new Go-Two IPA) and Pabst’s viral stolen beer marketing campaign.
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Dave Infante on Diageo’s Cuts, Garage Beer’s Data Center Cooling Plan and BuzzBallz and Pop-Tarts’ Boozy Collab
08/26/2026
Dave Infante on Diageo’s Cuts, Garage Beer’s Data Center Cooling Plan and BuzzBallz and Pop-Tarts’ Boozy Collab
Fingers boozeletter author Dave Infante joins the Brewbound Podcast to deep dive Diageo’s ongoing restructuring and workforce slashing under CEO Sir Dave Lewis (aka “Drastic Dave” for his reputation for making big cuts at previous stops). Infante shares insights from his reporting and conversations with Diageo employees, many of whom wondered why the Guinness and Johnnie Walker maker was so slow to adapt to the modern bev-alc competitive landscape. “The frustration that I heard from current and former Diageo employees was mostly about why weren’t we doing this before we had to start laying everyone off,” Infante tells Brewbound editor Justin Kendall and managing editor Jessica Infante (no relation). “You don’t have to get to this point before you start pivoting to RTDs.” The trio also hit recent headlines, including Garage Beer and Liquid Death tapping into the real world animosity around data centers and BuzzBallz’s recent Pop-Tarts partnership. Jessica offered a theory on the BuzzBallz-Pop-Tarts team up: “Kids aren’t eating Pop-Tarts. You know who’s eating Pop-Tarts? Sad, elder millennials who can’t afford anything else and want a tiny treat. The moms who would be out marching on the capitol up in arms against this aren’t feeding that to their kids.” “They’re the ones who are intrigued by the BuzzBallz Pop-Tarts that they saw on Instagram,” Dave adds. “That’s definitely going into their Stanley tumblers,” Jess says.
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Do We Need Another NA Version of a Legacy Beer Brand?
08/19/2026
Do We Need Another NA Version of a Legacy Beer Brand?
Does every beer need a non-alcoholic (NA) analog? The Brewbound team discusses on the latest episode of the Brewbound Podcast. As Molson Coors prepares to launch an NA version of Leinenkugel’s Summer Shandy, Brewbound editor Justin Kendall questions whether the product is trend chasing or if consumers are clamoring for it. Managing editor Jessica Infante gets White Claw Zero flashbacks, while senior reporter Zoe Licata offers a different perspective after exploring NA ciders. The trio also analyze recent headlines, including: Samuel Adams taproom workers’ plans to unionize and Boston Beer’s response, so far; And B3 Beverage’s “complicated” partnerships, with a deal for Yards Brewing going forward and others falling through.
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The Beer Industry’s New Era of Competition
08/12/2026
The Beer Industry’s New Era of Competition
The decade-long consent decree that allowed Anheuser-Busch InBev’s (A-B) MegaBrew merger with SABMiller to go forward expired in July, removing guardrails that had been placed on the world’s largest beer manufacturer by the Department of Justice to ensure competition in the marketplace. Chris Jones, managing director of Central Market Strategies, joins this week’s Brewbound Podcast to explore what competition looks like in a post-consent decree beer industry. Jones argues the consent decree did its job, creating a competitive environment that allowed new brands over the last decade such as Athletic Brewing, Mark Anthony Brands’ White Claw and Boston Beer’s Truly Hard Seltzer to become category leaders in non-alcoholic (NA) beer and hard seltzer, respectively, while also preventing A-B “from using its massive size as the world’s largest brewer to disrupt the market.” WIth the consent decree’s guardrails down, including the removal of an independent monitor who maintained compliance by handling claims of interference and coercion, there now exists “a lot more risk in the system of this market power and abuses of market power that could result from the size and scale of the largest brewer,” Jones said. Going forward, it will be important to track national market share in an already “highly concentrated market” and middle-tier consolidation in the years ahead, he added. Listen to the full conversation with Brewbound managing editor Jessica Infante here. Before the conversation, Brewbound editor Justin Kendall and senior reporter Zoe Licata join Jess to run through the latest news, including Lawson’s Finest Liquids’ first NA beer, what distributors say is on their cut lists, a distributor territory swap in the Northeast and “warm beer takes” on the latest NFL beer marketing.
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CEO Michelle Ivey Dives Into Lake Hour’s Strategy
08/05/2026
CEO Michelle Ivey Dives Into Lake Hour’s Strategy
How can a new brand make a splash in the increasingly crowded ready-to-drink waters? A winning combination of differentiated flavors, artistic packaging and a willingness to work the market day in and day out. That’s what has been working for Lake Hour, according to CEO Michelle Ivey, this week’s featured guest. RTD canned cocktail brand Lake Hour launched three years ago amid the segment’s meteoric rise. Its co-founders – actor Wyatt Russell and film producer Rich Peete – had no prior beverage experience, and tapped Ivey, an industry vet, as CEO in late 2025. “Once I tried it, I realized it was one of those, ‘actually’ brands that when you take a sip, you're like ‘Wow, actually, this is great. This tastes so good,’” Ivey said. “And so, I was so impressed with what they did and what they built two years in as startup founders that have had no experience in the industry.” Before the interview, the Brewbound team discusses recent headlines, including a proposed reprieve for intoxicating hemp beverages, how many retailers sold out of various bev-alc products during the World Cup and how Anheuser-Busch InBev views itself relative to spirits giants.
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RNDC’s Unpaid Tab, Craft’s Mid-Year Number and Boston Beer’s Rally Dog
07/29/2026
RNDC’s Unpaid Tab, Craft’s Mid-Year Number and Boston Beer’s Rally Dog
Republic National Distributing Company (RNDC) is leaving a big unpaid tab. The distributor filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy this week, with liabilities between $1 billion and $10 billion, and more than 100,000 creditors. In this episode of the Brewbound Podcast, Brewbound editor Justin Kendall and senior reporter Zoe Licata dive into the bankruptcy filing, as well as the fallout, with many suppliers left wondering if they’ll ever get paid back. Justin and Zoe also catch up on the other big headlines, including the Brewers Association’s (BA) 2026 mid-year report, with projected craft volume declines of 4%. They discuss why the news isn’t all bad – with a majority of respondents reporting growth – and why it’s not all good. The conversation shifts to Boston Beer’s second-quarter results and Sun Cruiser’s growing importance to the company’s bottomline. They also explore Boston’s growing fast-follower innovation strategy, including Rally Dog, a potential hard sports drink challenger brand. Plus, they touch on if beer companies might be walking back their opposition to the spirits industry’s equalization efforts. Finally, seasonal creep is here and real as pumpkin beers are already popping up on store shelves. It’s a quick, fun recap of the latest news. Listen here.
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The Magic of Airport Beers with Experience Threee’s Liz Einhorn
07/22/2026
The Magic of Airport Beers with Experience Threee’s Liz Einhorn
The pre-flight beer ranks high on many people’s lists of simple pleasures, but what does it take for that beer to end up in a pint glass? Experience Threee founder Liz Einhorn joins this week’s episode of the Brewbound Podcast to discuss the complexities of beer service in airport concessions. She shares the pros and cons of brewery-branded airport taprooms and what it takes to secure (and keep) a draft line in a busy airport bar. Before the interview, Justin and Jess break down the latest beer industry headlines, including a lawsuit between Ballast Point’s owners over allegedly ill-gotten business loans, new leadership at the National Black Brewers Association and James Watt’s second attempt to buy back BrewDog.
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Best Day’s Tate Huffard on Fitting Into Non-Alc Beer’s ‘Belonging’ Phase
07/15/2026
Best Day’s Tate Huffard on Fitting Into Non-Alc Beer’s ‘Belonging’ Phase
Best Day Brewing founder and CEO Tate Huffard believes the modern non-alcoholic (NA) beer movement is now in its second wave – one characterized by “belonging.” “What we see now is that non-alcoholic beer belongs on menus, it belongs in beer sets,” Huffard said on the latest edition of the Brewbound Podcast. Best Day was made for NA beer’s second wave in which coolers on boats in the summer are stocked with NA and alcoholic beer and fridges at parties also include both options, Huffard said. “All of these beer occasions warrant a great non-alcoholic beer and yet part of the magic is unpacking and uncovering these new occasions that deserve a beer,” Huffard said. “Case in point for me is a lunch beer.” The first wave – driven by the rise of Athletic Brewing Company – helped normalize NA beer and remove the penalty box elements of old-school offerings, Huffard explained. “I give those guys an incredible amount of praise for creating an environment where people could participate in the category and it wasn’t weird,” he said. “And the concept of non-alcoholic craft beer was born in that first wave.” The second wave is about growing the pie, expanding grocery baskets and taking NA beer’s share upward from 2% to 10% and beyond, Huffard said. In the episode, Huffard discusses Best Day’s 30% distribution growth this year and retail expansion, finding luck in craft brewery taprooms, navigating the disruption caused by the launch of Anheuser-Busch InBev’s Michelob Ultra Zero and much more. But first, the Brewbound team also catches up on the latest news, including July 4 scans, exec moves at New Belgium and a Jersey banner plane and patio tent update.
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Pour One Out For Deschutes’ Kirkland Helles; Plus, World Cup, July 4 and Jersey Shore Chatter
07/08/2026
Pour One Out For Deschutes’ Kirkland Helles; Plus, World Cup, July 4 and Jersey Shore Chatter
Can a letter writing campaign save Deschutes’ co-branded Kirkland Signature Helles, the same way Jess saved her childhood zoo? The Brewbound team and weekend newsletter writer Sean McNulty discuss the end of the cult favorite lager on the latest edition of the Brewbound Podcast, including an outpouring of somber reactions to the news. Justin recaps his conversation with Deschutes CEO Peter Skrbek and why he’s not sweating the decision as the company’s portfolio is growing. But could a public show of support from Costco members flip the decision? Jess shares that it worked for her hometown zoo. The team also shares their personal July 4 experiences, including a view from the Jersey Shore, and the mixed results by channel for the World Cup and surge of imported beer. Zoe also explains why quality is a default expectation for consumers now, and shouldn’t be a marketing talking point in 2026.
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Shootin’ the Breeze Ahead of the Fourth
07/01/2026
Shootin’ the Breeze Ahead of the Fourth
On the latest Brewbound Podcast episode, the Brewbound team catches up on how Independence Day is stacking up as a heat wave sets in for much of the country. Hot Topics: U.K. beer prices vs. the U.S., and other across-the-pond observations from Zoe’s trip to London; Jersey Shore banner plane ads, which have been heavily skewed toward 1 brand, according to Jess’ on-the-ground reporting; July 4 beer promos, such as a meat-and-beer deal spotted in IA by Justin; And other quick hits, including Allagash’s new Maine-centric ad campaign, the impact of the World Cup on beer and why now is the time for hot RTD brands to explore a sale.
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Kilts, Bagpipes and Lots of Lagers – How Hendler Family Brewing Welcomed World Cup Fans
06/25/2026
Kilts, Bagpipes and Lots of Lagers – How Hendler Family Brewing Welcomed World Cup Fans
Mass Appeal Draught House and Grille opened on the eve of the kick-off of FIFA World Cup 2026 at its neighbor, Gillette Stadium. Hendler Family Brewing co-founder and CEO Sam Hendler joined the Brewbound Podcast to discuss how the multi-branded taproom handled an influx of guests, what Scottish fans prefer to drink (Jack’s Abby House Lager) – and what they’re not drinking. “The majority of the audience who's been down there on game day has been the international fan base, and House Lager has been consistently the No. 1 seller, and it's not particularly close,” Hendler said. “We're selling 6 or 7x the House Lager than we are of the top-selling IPA in that taproom right now.” Hendler shared insights into the World Cup-driven boost at the company’s Night Shift taprooms and beer gardens and how they prepared their brands (Jack’s Abby, Wormtown, Masshole Light and Sloop) to stand out in the trade during this high visibility time. In the Boston area, hosting the World Cup and thousands of spectators who have come to support their teams has been a boon for the hospitality industry, particularly beer distributors and breweries. “On the ground, the atmosphere has been fantastic. People have been showing up, people are having a great time, and they're drinking a lot of beer as it goes on,” Hendler said. “There's been so much talk in beer about winning occasions that are beyond what the beer occasion has always been, and the industry still obviously needs work to do on that, because the World Cup, unfortunately, won't last for 365 days a year forever. But it's clear that beer is a winner for this occasion, and it's been absolutely fantastic.” Before the interview, Justin and Zoe discuss the results of the Brewers Association’s annual Harris Poll of consumers’ views on craft beer, recent developments in the ongoing collapse of Republic National Distributing Company and a first impression of Keystone Light Apple.
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Athletic’s Bill Shufelt is Bullish on the Future of NA Beer – and the Beer Category
06/17/2026
Athletic’s Bill Shufelt is Bullish on the Future of NA Beer – and the Beer Category
Athletic Brewing co-founder and CEO Bill Shufelt is “the most excited” he’s felt since founding the dedicated non-alcoholic (NA) beer brand. On the latest edition of the Brewbound Podcast, Shufelt shared what’s driving his hyped feeling, with a foundation he and co-founder John Walker laid about a decade ago. That foundation is built on a team of 300 co-workers, bicoastal brewing facilities, a strong distribution base for its core beers, a slate of new products hitting retailers and marketing campaigns beginning to ramp up. “I’m very bullish on the long-term health and growth of the category and our part in growing that,” Shufelt said. “It was very hard to get non-alcoholic beer from zero to 2% of beer, but there are actual retailers in the U.S. [where] non-alcoholic beer is touching up against 20% of their beer sales.” Those retailers lend credence to Shufelt’s belief that NA beer can be a much bigger part of the beer category. Shufelt explained that consumers are very early in the NA beer discovery curve, with the vast majority unaware how the product has changed in the last decade. Even with the stage set for growth, Shufelt acknowledged that Athletic still has work to do for the company and the segment to reach some of his loftier goals. For Athletic in particular, which holds around 22% of the NA beer segment, distribution remains its biggest opportunity. “In independents, no matter how much our distributors smile at us and tell us we’re a priority, we’re in like 10% of their independents,” Shufelt said. “And I can go into stores in almost any state in the country and look at a shelf that is controlled by our distributor that has five-plus non-alcoholic beer products on it, and Athletic will have none. There’s just such untapped distribution out there still.” For now, Shufelt is focused on driving Athletic and NA beer forward. But could the future include an IPO? An Athletic led by someone else? Shufelt said it’s possible, but he doesn't want to be on the outside looking in on an opportunity he was one of the few people to see. Before the interview, Justin, Jess and Zoe discuss the latest headlines, including the mixed results craft brewers are seeing from the World Cup, the American Cider Association co-locating its 2027 CiderCon conference with the Brewers Association’s Craft Brewers Conference, the closure of Nebraska’s largest craft brewery and the top new products of so far this year.
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F.X. Matt Brewing’s Fred Matt on Mid-Strength Beer and Generating Retail Energy; Plus, Changes Coming to GABF
06/11/2026
F.X. Matt Brewing’s Fred Matt on Mid-Strength Beer and Generating Retail Energy; Plus, Changes Coming to GABF
At 138 years old, F.X. Matt Brewing isn’t slowing down. President Fred Matt joined the Brewbound Podcast to discuss the Utica, New York-based craft brewery’s plans for 2026 and beyond, which include Saranac Weekend Warrior Mid-Strength, a 3% ABV hazy IPA and Right Coast Spirits Italian Ice, a vodka-based RTD produced in partnership with Barrel One Collective. Plus, Jess and Zoe discuss news highlights, including changes coming for the Great American Beer Festival and 2025 production data for taprooms and brewpubs.
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Revised Craft Production Data, Plus Chats with Victory and Odell
06/03/2026
Revised Craft Production Data, Plus Chats with Victory and Odell
Was craft brewers’ 2025 less bad than we thought? The Brewers Association issued a revision to its annual production report, which places the industry at -4%, up from previously published -5.1%. In this Brewbound Podcast episode, Zoe and Jess break down what the changes mean for the challenged craft beer industry, as well as several middle-tier deals and recent scan data. This week’s featured interviews highlight Victory Brewing co-founder Bill Covaleski and director of brewing operations Joe Slavick and Odell Brewing CEO Eric “Smitty” Smith. Both conversations were recorded during the Craft Brewers Conference in Philadelphia in April.
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Off-the-Wall Marketing with Garage Beer’s Andy Sauer; How Occasions Drive Julie Rhodes’ Kick Fizz
05/27/2026
Off-the-Wall Marketing with Garage Beer’s Andy Sauer; How Occasions Drive Julie Rhodes’ Kick Fizz
One of the hottest beer companies in the U.S., along with a budding THC-infused beverage entrepreneur, join the latest edition of the Brewbound Podcast in back-to-back interviews. Garage Beer owner Andy Sauer shares upcoming plans for the fast-growing lager brand, including the introduction of Home Depot-style buckets and stubby bottles. Garage Beer is riding a growth wave, posting 193% year-over-year gains in 2025, to 220,000 barrels of beer. Garage ranked as the 12th-largest craft brewery last year, but the company has intentionally kept “craft” out of its messaging. Sauer discusses striking the balance in marketing with celebrity owners Jason and Travis Kelce and some of the more off-the-wall campaigns the brand has deployed through its writer’s room approach to marketing. But first, Julie Rhodes, co-founder of THC-infused beverage brand Kick Fizz, explains how she’s preparing for the federal government’s November ban of most THC drinks. Rhodes, who also runs consulting firm Not Your Hobby Marketing Solutions, digs into creating an occasion-focused brand, the misconceptions about infused beverages and the challenges small producers face at retail. Before the interviews, Justin, Jess and Zoe discuss the Brewers Association’s 2025 production data release. They discuss the top 10 brands that posted growth last year and jockeying among them.
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NBWA’s Craig Purser Talks Middle-Tier Hot-Button Issues; Aeronaut's Deepa Chungi on a Successful Events Biz
05/20/2026
NBWA’s Craig Purser Talks Middle-Tier Hot-Button Issues; Aeronaut's Deepa Chungi on a Successful Events Biz
As middle-tier M&A dominos fall this summer, National Beer Wholesalers Association (NBWA) president and CEO Craig Purser joins the latest Brewbound Podcast to discuss the tectonic shifts in the distribution landscape following Republic National Distributing Company’s (RNDC) fire sale. Purser is part of a double shot of interviews this week, including Aeronaut director of programming Deepa Chungi, who shares how the Massachusetts craft brewery created a booming events business. First, Purser offers insights into what middle-tier consolidation means for small producers and distributors, and how the power structure has been reshaped with mega spirits distributor Southern Glazer’s Wine & Spirits picking up Anheuser-Busch InBev’s distribution rights in major markets. Purser also explains what he believes the intoxicating hemp beverage industry needs to do to get lawmakers onboard and potentially avert the ban coming in November. Then, Chungi explores the keys for small breweries looking to add private and public events to their businesses, and why events such as “Pitch a Friend” and Dungeons & Dragons game nights have packed Aeronaut’s taproom. Plus, the Brewbound team discusses the demise of Schlitz, the closure of Minneapolis’ Bauhaus Brew Labs and a helluva partnership for Mike’s Dirty Lemonade.
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How Lawson’s Stays on Brand, and Rhinegeist’s Plans Amid Hemp Bev Prohibition
05/14/2026
How Lawson’s Stays on Brand, and Rhinegeist’s Plans Amid Hemp Bev Prohibition
2023 was a sea-change year for several craft breweries who underwent leadership changes. Lawson’s Finest Liquids and Rhinegeist Brewery were among the companies who underwent CEO transitions that year. Lawson’s CEO Adeline Druart and Rhinegeist CEO Adam Bankovich discuss entering Year 3 of their respective tenures at the top of those companies in separate featured interviews on the latest edition of the Brewbound Podcast. In the first conversation, Druart dives into the “ongoing conversation” at the Vermont brewery of “what makes a Lawson’s Finest beer a Lawson’s Finest beer” and defines what makes a Sunshine brand. “Really for us, it’s IPAs – clear IPAs using Citra hops, and with a very bold flavor profile,” she said. “The more conversations we have like those – defining who we are, the more I’d say clear we are moving forward what’s on brand, what’s off brand.” Druart also discusses the impact of Lawson’s community giving programs, accelerating business by moving distribution to Baker Distributing in its home state, the launch of Hop Wired hazy and juicy IPA and much more. Then, Bankovich explores the anniversary of launching the Cincinnati craft brewery’s first NA beer line Ghost, with new offerings to follow. He also explains why launching Fuzzy Bones, a sparkling THC drink, has been a challenging and educational “crash course,” following Ohio’s ban on intoxicating hemp beverages. Fuzzy Bones launched in six states, with three additional states expected to follow. Rhinegeist is “trying to stay nimble with it,” as a federal ban looms in November. “I wish that our government officials could learn enough from the past to act quickly because this industry developed so quickly, seemingly out of nowhere,” he said. “We just really need a chance to not fall into the trap of Prohibition and instead write proper regulation now and in real time as consumers want these products instead of prohibiting them for years and years and years.” Bankovich also dishes on Rhinegeist’s daily hospitality efforts to make guest experiences’ special, the growth of the company’s core Truth and Cincy Light brand families and several expedited new additions: Half Truth session IPA, limited-time summer offering Cincy Light Watermelon and Sea Salt and Cincy Vodka Soda, the company’s first spirit-based offering. Before the interviews, the Brewbound team reviews that latest news, including: A recent Bump Williams Consulting report on long-tail craft brands finding success; Leadership changes at the American Cider Association; And Boston Beer’s 15% ABV Lytt beyond beer creation in glow-in-the-dark, lightbulb-shaped 6.8 oz. containers.
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RNDC’s Dismantling; Plus Eco Beverages and Russian River
05/06/2026
RNDC’s Dismantling; Plus Eco Beverages and Russian River
Republic National Distributing Company (RNDC) continues to unwind, so BevNET spirits editor Ferron Salniker joined the Brewbound Podcast to break down the latest. RNDC, once the country’s second-largest wine and spirits distributor, has been selling-off markets piecemeal to competitors from coast to coast. Announced deals have included 11 markets to the Reyes Beverage Group, brand rights and some assets to Columbia Distributing, operations in 17 control states to Martignetti. (Note: this conversation took place before Breakthru announced it would acquire RNDC operations in Kentucky and Indiana or that it was revealed Quality Beverage would buy RNDC assets in Nebraska, North Dakota and South Dakota.) RNDC’s current state can be traced to the butterfly effect of a host of suppliers leaving its California operations over the last several years, resulting in the company exiting the state. “It’s no surprise that if your biggest suppliers leave your biggest state and beyond, then the rest of your business is going to be affected,” Salniker said. “What’s happening now is no surprise, but it feels like it’s happening all of a sudden.” In addition to her analysis, the episode features conversations with co-founder Anna Nadasdy and Russian River Brewing co-owner Natalie Cilurzo. Nadasdy discusses her organization’s push to help craft beverage manufacturers navigate Extended Producer Responsibility laws. Cilurzao recapped her brewery’s recent Pliny the Younger launch and Russian River’s latest push to share its sustainability work. Justin and Jess also break down recent beer news, including Lord Hobo and Lone Pine’s pivot to contact production and Q1 earnings from Boston Beer and Molson Coors.
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From Beer to Better-For-You: How Octopi Brewing Is Adapting to a Shifting Beverage Industry
05/04/2026
From Beer to Better-For-You: How Octopi Brewing Is Adapting to a Shifting Beverage Industry
In this Brewbound Podcast Interview, Justin Kendall sits down with Mitch Wedemeier, Director of Planning at Octopi Brewing, live from the Brew Expo floor at the Craft Brewers Conference. Now just over two years into its acquisition by Asahi (January 2024), Octopi has refined its strategic vision under the leadership of Paul Verdu. The company is pursuing two parallel paths: continuing as a best-in-class mid-range co-packer while also growing the Asahi Super Dry brand in the U.S. market. Mitch shares that Octopi's co-packing business is currently a 50/50 split between alcoholic and non-alcoholic beverages, with strong demand for non-alcoholic beer (using their award-winning membrane filtration process) and rapidly growing categories like healthy sodas, prebiotics, protein sodas, and mocktails. On the format side, he's seeing real momentum in 19.2 oz single-serve cans, variety packs, and the emerging 7.5 oz "mini" can format, which Octopi is adding to its line by mid-summer. Rather than chasing volume with dozens of clients, the team is focused on partnering with 10–20 brands in the ~15,000-barrel range that have meaningful growth potential. CPG founders interested in co-packing with Octopi can visit and connect directly with Mitch through the contract manufacturing section.
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From Beer to Better-For-You: How Octopi Brewing Is Adapting to a Shifting Beverage Industry
05/04/2026
From Beer to Better-For-You: How Octopi Brewing Is Adapting to a Shifting Beverage Industry
In this Brewbound Podcast Interview, Justin Kendall sits down with Mitch Wedemeier, Director of Planning at Octopi Brewing, live from the Brew Expo floor at the Craft Brewers Conference. Now just over two years into its acquisition by Asahi (January 2024), Octopi has refined its strategic vision under the leadership of Paul Verdu. The company is pursuing two parallel paths: continuing as a best-in-class mid-range co-packer while also growing the Asahi Super Dry brand in the U.S. market. Mitch shares that Octopi's co-packing business is currently a 50/50 split between alcoholic and non-alcoholic beverages, with strong demand for non-alcoholic beer (using their award-winning membrane filtration process) and rapidly growing categories like healthy sodas, prebiotics, protein sodas, and mocktails. On the format side, he's seeing real momentum in 19.2 oz single-serve cans, variety packs, and the emerging 7.5 oz "mini" can format, which Octopi is adding to its line by mid-summer. Rather than chasing volume with dozens of clients, the team is focused on partnering with 10–20 brands in the ~15,000-barrel range that have meaningful growth potential. CPG founders interested in co-packing with Octopi can visit and connect directly with Mitch through the contract manufacturing section.
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Wrapping Up CBC 2026; Plus, Chats with Carbon Copy, Brewers of PA and Love City
04/29/2026
Wrapping Up CBC 2026; Plus, Chats with Carbon Copy, Brewers of PA and Love City
After a week of good (dare we say sunny?) vibes in Philadelphia, the Brewbound team regrouped to put a bow on the 2026 Craft Brewers Conference (CBC). Jess, Zoe and Justin discussed the overall feel of this year’s event compared to the previous two CBCs in Indianapolis and Las Vegas, as well as the Brewers Association attempting to change the narrative around craft beer. They discuss president and CEO Bart Watson’s nudge to tell some of the more positive stories around craft beer, and his own attempts during the State of the Industry speech. Plus, the trio explored RNDC’s fire sale this week, as the distributors struck deals with Martignetti for 11 control state markets and Columbia Distributing for certain wine and spirits brand rights in Washington and Oregon, as well as an agreement in Alaska. Then, we bring you a trio of Pennsylvania-centric interviews, starting with a check in with Carbon Copy co-founder Brendon Boudwin on the Philadelphia brewery’s less pretentious approach compared to some legacy craft brewers. After that, we shift gears with snippets of interviews recorded during Brewbound’s happy hour at Love City Brewing. In the first chat, Brewers of PA executive director Hannah Ison explained the guild’s work to modernize the state’s malt beverage tax credit program, which would allow craft breweries that have made facility upgrades or equipment purchases to sell those credits to other Pennsylvania producers or gain extensions. The show wraps up with Love City Brewing co-founder Kevin Walter’s take on modern craft drinkers and how the brewery is pulling those drinkers into its taprooms with niche events.
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CBC Week + a Blockbuster Brewery Deal
04/21/2026
CBC Week + a Blockbuster Brewery Deal
The Brewers Association’s Craft Brewers Conference (CBC) rolled into Philadelphia this week – and so did the Brewbound Podcast On Location Studio. In this episode of the Brewbound Podcast, the team shares their early reads on a week in which the vibes seem high compared to previous years. Zoe recaps the opening keynote speech by Unreasonable Hospitality author and former restaurateur Will Guidara, including his hyper-experiential approach to customer service and what a “dream weaver” is and whether you should be concerned that your server is eavesdropping on you. But first, Justin provides details on Firestone Walker and Duvel USA striking an agreement to acquire the Stone Brewing brand and four California taprooms from Sapporo USA – just under four years after the Japanese brewing giant acquired the San Diego craft brewery. Justin, Jess and Zoe dig into what the deal means for craft market share in California, how the combined company plans to approach distribution and which taprooms are on the move, as well as what this means for Sapporo in the U.S. and what happens with the Escondido production brewery. The trio also share takeaways from Brewbound’s party at Love City Brewing.
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Ikasu Brewing Leans into ‘Weird,’ ‘Good Beer’ and Japanese Culinary Ingredients
04/15/2026
Ikasu Brewing Leans into ‘Weird,’ ‘Good Beer’ and Japanese Culinary Ingredients
Ikasu Brewing founder Masahiro “Masa” Kitano believes his Los Angeles-based, contract-brewed brand has found its niche, leaning into “weird and good beer” that taps into Japanese culinary ingredients. Kitano’s history as a home brewer helped him craft out-of-the-ordinary beers, such as a matcha-infused gose. “It’s a sour beer with the aroma of matcha, but it doesn’t look green,” he said. “You smell it and it’s super unique. No one’s thought about combining sour beer with matcha.” Kitano’s beer, as well as his story of leaving a career as a medical researcher to chase his brewing dream, coupled with his infectious personality, propelled him to victory during Brewbound’s Pitch Slam competition at the 2025 Brewbound Live business conference last December. On this week’s Brewbound Podcast, Kitano shares an update on the business following the win and why he believes his pitch resonated. “I tried to make the pitch as simple as possible, a little bit stupid and a little be funny – magically it worked out,” he said. “I’m so glad that happened.” In the months since, the draft-only brand added several bar and restaurant accounts following the win and recently signed with L.A. Distributing Co., Kitano said. Ikasu continues to operate out of Los Angeles-based Native Son, where the brand has six taps dedicated to its beer. The relationship has helped Ikasu test new offerings and connect with a built-in audience. In this episode, Kitano goes deeper into his innovation process, as well as his aspirations for Ikasu, including plans to can Larigato, Ikasu’s Japanese rice lager, later this year for distribution. Before the conversation, the Brewbound team discusses craft beer’s 2025 production report released earlier this week by the Brewers Association. They dive into why Sierra Nevada leapfrogging Boston Beer as the No. 2 independent craft brewery by volume highlights the successes of one brewery and the shift in focus away from beer of the other. The trio also explore Mark Anthony Brands’ deal for the Finnish Long Drink, and which RTD dominos are left to fall/cash in.
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Q1 Craft Scans, Platform Proliferation, BrewDog’s Identity Crisis – and What’s a Daycap?
04/08/2026
Q1 Craft Scans, Platform Proliferation, BrewDog’s Identity Crisis – and What’s a Daycap?
How did craft close out Q1 in scans? In this episode, the Brewbound team convenes to discuss the early read on trends in off-premise retailers with the first three months of 2026 in the books. The conversation shifts to the latest platform builders, as Oklahoma City’s Coop Ale Works and Dallas’ Four Corners Brewing have created the Frontier Beverage Collective. Meanwhile, Abita Brewing Company is rechristening itself as the Abita Beverage Group, targeting 170,000 barrels this year, and potential mergers and acquisitions. Then the focus turns to new BrewDog owner Tilray Brands’ Q3 earnings report and future plans with the Scottish craft beer brand in the fold. Justin, Jess and Zoe discuss BrewDog's identity without its “punk” ethos, which now includes a residency in the Hamptons. The show wraps with a conversation about the “Daycap,” following a Business Insider story on bev-alc brands targeting daytime occasions via some creative marketing to younger LDA consumers. Is this really a thing with Gen Z?
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