The Natural State with Dr. Anthony Gustin
Dr. Anthony Gustin believes the natural state of an organism is health. In this podcast he explores how we can reclaim our health rebuilding a proper human environment in the modern world. The Natural State features interviews with health and nutrition influencers, world-class thought leaders, and industry experts. With exclusive content that breaks down complex ideas to make them simple and digestible. We cover topics like nutrition, fitness and movement, regenerative agriculture, health, mental and emotional health -- anything that a functioning human being needs to thrive.
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201: Charles Duhigg - Becoming a Supercommunicator
07/10/2024
201: Charles Duhigg - Becoming a Supercommunicator
Charles Duhigg is a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and bestselling author. He chats with Dr. Anthony Gustin about the science of “Supercommunicators.” According to Charles, Supercommunicators have unlocked the secret language of connection. This one trait makes them more successful in all areas of their life. Best part? Anyone can become a Supercommunicator! If you’re familiar with Charles’ books The Power of Habit and Smarter Faster Better, you know he takes a science-driven approach to understanding human nature and its potential for transformation. His new book, Supercommunicators, is no different. It’s full of science-backed tips and tricks for more effective, connection-boosting conversations. So in this episode, Charles and Dr. Gustin explore: The science of communication, conversation, and connection Why communication is a human superpower The benefits of being a better communicator The three types of conversations How the “Matching Principle” explains miscommunication The difference between inviting vs. mandating conversations What makes Supercommunicators so effective How to ask deep questions to better connect with others (+ the best one to ask!) What “looping for understanding” means, and how it’s helpful during conflict or arguments Resources mentioned in this episode: Check out and enter code TNS at checkout for 15% off! Visit and use code AG20 for 20% off your first order! Charles Duhigg’s Charles’ book:
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200: Eric Edmeades - Closing the Evolution Gap
07/06/2024
200: Eric Edmeades - Closing the Evolution Gap
Eric Edmeades is a globally recognized authority in health, practical psychology, and behavioral transformation. He chats with Dr. Anthony Gustin about closing the “Evolution Gap.” For the past 15+ years, Eric has made extensive trips to live with the Hadza Tribe of Tanzania, one of the few remaining hunter-gatherer societies. He even organized the trip Dr. Gustin ventured on with Dr. Paul Saladino! Eric’s deep immersion and the insights gained from these experiences have significantly informed his work in the health and wellness industry. His book Postdiabetic offers a holistic, actionable 9-week plan to tackle prediabetes and type 2 diabetes. His newest book, The Evolution Gap, explores how the mismatch between our slow biological evolution and rapidly innovating modern lives impacts our health and well-being. Tune into this episode to hear them discuss: How Eric’s unique family history sparked his interest in human evolution The profound changes experienced by the Hadza Tribe since Eric first began visiting Eric’s evolutionary health journey and vegan vs. Paleo diets Why it’s easier to get diabetes today than it was 50 years ago The “Evolution Gap” and why Eric believes almost every physical and mental condition erupts from that space Using natural and artificial solutions to “close” the gap and align our lifestyles more closely with the rhythms/systems our bodies were designed for Resources mentioned in this episode: Check out and enter code TNS at checkout for 15% off! Visit and use code AG20 for 20% off your first order! Eric Edmeades’ website: Eric’s books: and Eric’s program Eric’s Instagram:
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199: Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - Muscle-Centric-Medicine for Longevity
06/19/2024
199: Dr. Gabrielle Lyon - Muscle-Centric-Medicine for Longevity
In this episode, Dr. Gabrielle Lyon chats with Dr. Anthony Gustin about Muscle-Centric-Medicine®. With her background in family medicine, geriatrics, and nutritional science, Dr. Lyon discovered that optimizing your health starts by focusing on the biggest organ in your body: skeletal muscle. Her book Forever Strong outlines how your muscle health directly impacts your metabolic health, mental health, and overall lifespan. As she says, “Muscle is the key to longevity and aging well. The more muscle health you have, the better your trajectory of aging.” So she uses this approach to help the world’s game changers — from Navy SEALs and elite athletes to CEOs and entrepreneurs — become the best versions of themselves. During their conversation, Dr. Gustin and Dr. Lyon discuss: The habits, behaviors, and standards her high-performing patients share that predict success across every aspect of their lives. How to create systems that address your personal weaknesses and outsmart your predictability. Why muscle health is so underappreciated and often ignored. Signs you don’t have healthy skeletal muscle. Why a lack of muscle is a greater health threat than obesity. Measuring strength vs. power to determine muscle quality. The importance of eating enough protein, working out hard enough, and building/preserving muscle mass as we age. Resources mentioned in this episode: Go to EquipFoods.com/TNS to grab 15% off your order Visit LineageProvisions.com and use code AG20 for 20% off your first order Dr. Gabrielle Lyon’s Website: Dr. Lyon’s Book: Dr. Lyon’s Podcast: Dr. Lyon’s Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, and TikTok: @DrGabrielleLyon
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198: Dr. Josh Axe - Making Earth a Heavenly Place
04/17/2024
198: Dr. Josh Axe - Making Earth a Heavenly Place
Dr. Josh Axe, DC, DNM, CNS, is a certified doctor of natural medicine and clinical nutritionist who helps people heal and prevent illness by using food, lifestyle, and mindset medicine. He chats with Dr. Anthony Gustin about how the right mindset creates a more meaningful life. Dr. Axe suffered a very traumatic injury that left him unable to walk. He spent the last year and a half recovering by using natural remedies and focusing on mindset, which he shares more about during the episode. This experience solidified his beliefs about what’s important in life besides nutrition and physical health — faith, spirituality, and being a good human. Tune in to hear them discuss: Why “mindset medicine” is the biggest aspect of better health we’re not talking about The benefits of finding your purpose and identity How Dr. Axe defied his doctor’s expectations with a healing mindset What religion and spirituality mean to them Lessons we can learn about being a good human from the Bible to The Lord of the Rings Our universal purpose to heal the Earth and its people Using your unique talents to heed your calling and help others Virtue ethics and what makes someone a good person The difference between an Accomplishing mindset vs. a Becoming mindset Resources mentioned in this episode: Visit HVMN.com/AG to get 30% off your first subscription order of Ketone-IQTM Visit LineageProvisions.com and use code AG20 for 20% off your first order Dr. Josh Axe’s website: Dr. Axe’s new book: Dr. Axe’s Instagram: Dr. Axe on
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197: Jake Marquez & Maren Morgan - Death In the Garden
04/10/2024
197: Jake Marquez & Maren Morgan - Death In the Garden
Jake Marquez and Maren Morgan are filmmakers, writers, and podcasters. They chat with Dr. Anthony Gustin about their crazy journey making their documentary and podcast: Death In the Garden. For the last four years, Jake and Maren have been trying to untangle the complex, tangled web of how we address climate change, fix the food system, and, hopefully, save the world. Their project discusses these and other problems in our society through the lenses of ecology, philosophy, myth, storytelling, and, ultimately, our fear of death. Jake and Maren have experienced their fair share of anxiety, despair, and existential dread on their quest for ecological and cultural regeneration. But as you’ll hear in the episode, they’ve learned how to find meaning and purpose. They also helped Jake’s mom start a grass-fed tallow balm company called The Beekeeper’s Granddaughter! Tune into the episode as these three chat about: What inspired Jake and Maren to start the Death In The Garden project Why prioritizing “left-brain consciousness” is harming our society/planet What it looks like to live ethically in an unethical world The four reasons people go vegan (and why Jake stopped) The potential collapse and finding good in the next “Dark Ages” Finding meaning and purpose in life The value of conscious, intentional consumption The most important things we can do to change the food system How being conscious about our mortality empowers us to embrace the natural cycles of life, death, and regeneration (and not make the same mistakes) Their hopes for this generation and what’s next for them Resources mentioned in this episode: Visit HVMN.com/AG to get 30% off your first subscription order of Ketone-IQTM Visit LineageProvisions.com and use code AG20 for 20% off your first order Jake and Maren’s substack: on Instagram on Twitter Jake’s Mom’s grass-fed tallow balm company: by E.F. Schumacher by E.F. Schumacher by Iain McGilchrist by Morris Berman by Christopher Ryan
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196: Dr. Paul Saladino - The Story of Lineage Provisions
04/03/2024
196: Dr. Paul Saladino - The Story of Lineage Provisions
Dr. Paul Saladino, double board-certified MD, author, and host of the Paul Saladino MD podcast, chats with Dr. Anthony Gustin about the journey and launch of their new brand: Lineage Provisions. Sparked by their desire to make foods they want to eat and feed their loved ones, they set out to create an animal-based food company with the highest standards for nutrient-density, taste, and transparency. But as you’ll hear in this behind-the-scenes peek, the journey wasn’t easy. After two years and 50+ formulas, Dr. Saladino and Dr. Gustin are now proud to offer the best meat snack the world has ever seen. Tune into this episode to hear: How the “Quest for Convenience” ruined our food supply and eating habits What some meat producers hide behind grass-fed labels Why the “naturally occurring” nitrates and nitrites in celery powder may not be any better for us The incredible health benefits of vitamin K2 and where to get it in your diet What inspired Dr. Saladino and Dr. Gustin’s collaboration How they vet farmers, suppliers, etc., to bring their products to market The proprietary air drying process they engineered to preserve nutrients Why their small batch, 100% regeneratively raised, grass-fed and finished beef & organ meat sticks are unmatched by competitors Their ideas for the next product launches (based on your feedback!) Q&A session, including why you won’t find Lineage Provisions in grocery stores yet, what the beef and organ sticks taste like, whether kids like them, and more! Resources mentioned in this episode: Dr. Paul Saladino and Dr. Anthony Gustin’s company: Dr. Saladino’s
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195: Cole Mannix - Vertically Integrating Pasture-To-Plate
02/06/2024
195: Cole Mannix - Vertically Integrating Pasture-To-Plate
Cole Mannix, President and Founder of Old Salt Co-op, chats with Dr. Anthony Gustin about creating a vertically integrated pasture-to-plate ecosystem. Cole’s meat company brings together ranchers to support land stewardship, fix the local food system in Montana, and make regenerative more sustainable. They’ve integrated everything from processing, sourcing, distribution, and marketing to running their own farm-to-table restaurants. Though his family’s been ranching in Montana’s Blackfoot Valley since the 1880s, Cole holds degrees in biology, philosophy, and theology and worked in wildlife and natural resource conservation. His unique perspective makes for an interesting conversation. Tune in to hear Cole and Dr. Gustin discuss: What inspired Cole to tackle this challenge How the co-op works and whether it can be replicated International food policies that harm US farmers and ranchers Why it’s impossible to industrialize sustainable food production The “impact” of cattle emissions on climate change How solely plant-based farming devastates ecosystems Why international meat costs less than domestic Creating the seed oil-free Old Salt Outpost, a burger joint sending out tallow-cooked french fries The Old Salt Festival, Outside magazine’s #2 ranked climate-forward festival Resources mentioned in this episode: Cole Mannix’s company: Outside magazine’s article: ““ Wendell Berry’s book: E. F. Schumacher’s book: Visit HVMN.com/AG to get 30% off your first subscription order of Ketone-IQTM
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194: Lily Nichols - Supporting Healthy Pregnancies with Ancestral Knowledge & Evidence-Based Prenatal Nutrition
01/29/2024
194: Lily Nichols - Supporting Healthy Pregnancies with Ancestral Knowledge & Evidence-Based Prenatal Nutrition
Lily Nichols is a Registered Dietitian/Nutritionist, Certified Diabetes Educator, researcher, and author. She discusses how to combine ancestral knowledge and evidence-based prenatal nutrition to support healthy pregnancies with Dr. Anthony Gustin. Lily’s first bestselling book, Real Food for Gestational Diabetes, dives into why a nutrient-dense, lower-carb approach works for women worried about or managing gestational diabetes. Her second book, Real Food for Pregnancy, is the most comprehensive text on prenatal nutrition to date — with nearly 1,000 citations that challenge conventional prenatal nutrition guidelines and confirm what our ancestors have known for generations. Tune into the episode to hear Lily and Dr. Gustin chat about: What inspired Lily to take this path (in a roundabout way) What’s wrong with the current prenatal/postnatal nutrition guidelines Foods women should be adding/avoiding during pregnancy How hormone changes may influence pregnancy cravings (and aversions) The “interpregnancy interval” and how long to wait between kids The best prenatal supplements to help cover nutrient gaps Raw eggs, seafood, saunas, cold plunges, and more! Resources mentioned in this episode: Lily Nichols’ website: Lily’s books: and Lily’s Instagram: and (for men and women) Visit to get 30% off your first subscription order of Ketone-IQ™
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193: Dan Miller - Crowdfunding Regenerative Agriculture
01/17/2024
193: Dan Miller - Crowdfunding Regenerative Agriculture
Dan Miller is the founder and CEO of Steward, a crowdfunding platform for investing in regenerative agriculture projects. He discusses how it all works with Dr. Anthony Gustin. After Dan pioneered crowdfunding for real estate investing with his company Fundrise, he decided to move into something he was more passionate about: fixing the food system. Steward empowers everyday investors to vote with their dollar and support regenerative farms beyond simply buying their goods. Since launching in 2020, they’ve crowdsourced and provided over $30 million in short-term loans to fund more than 90 regenerative projects across the US. Tune into the episode to hear Dan and Dr. Gustin chat about: How Dan used what he learned scaling Fundrise to launch and grow Steward Why financing is the biggest challenge for regenerative to become the norm and what’s wrong with the current system The surprising new generation entering the regenerative agriculture space How Steward vets and supports borrowers to drive returns for investors Success stories and community impacts What happens if there’s a default, the average portfolio yield, the minimum investors need to start, and more! Resources mentioned in this episode: Dan Miller’s company, by Wendell Berry Visit to get 30% off your first subscription order of Ketone-IQ™
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192: Andy Schoonover - Crowdfunding Better Health
01/04/2024
192: Andy Schoonover - Crowdfunding Better Health
Andy Schoonover is the Founder and CEO of CrowdHealth, a platform that crowdfunds healthcare costs for its members so they can ditch their health insurance plans. He chats with Dr. Anthony Gustin about why this model solves the biggest problems in our broken medical-industrial complex and brings a community-first approach back to healthcare. Tune in to the episode to hear them discuss: What inspired Andy to start CrowdHealth What’s wrong with the health insurance industry How people rack up million-dollar hospital bills What makes paying doctors in cash at the point of care different How crowdfunded healthcare works How CrowdHealth members dramatically reduce their healthcare expenses What incentivizes members to contribute to others and take better care of their health The demographics of their members and the most common crowdfunding requests How many claims have been denied vs. fully funded Resources mentioned in this episode: Andy Schoonover’s company, CrowdHealth on and by Peter Attia, MD Visit to get 30% off your first subscription order of Ketone-IQ™
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191: Case Bradford - Practicing the Art of Vitality
11/29/2023
191: Case Bradford - Practicing the Art of Vitality
Ever wonder what gives you vitality? Case Bradford, Primal Health Coach, chats with Dr. Anthony Gustin about the best habits to elevate your body-mind health and fitness (and which devitalizing habits you should avoid). Case is an enthusiastic advocate for authentic vitality. He and Dr. Gustin dive into how to make intuitive calls in your health rather than unquestioningly trusting the science behind your everyday motions. Tune in to the episode to hear their thoughts on: How to define vitality What prevents people from reaching their peak vitality Best habits to practice when you’re feeling physically, mentally, and emotionally drained How to explore your own authentic, holistic vitality The top microtoxins that devitalize us The new rules of essential modern hygiene for better health The benefits of local, biodynamic foods Thoughts about fasting from a ritualistic, meditative perspective The “pure alchemy” of making amazingly nutrient-dense ice cream Resources mentioned in this episode: Case Bradford’s Case’s Case’s , , and channel by Bessel van der Kolk M.D. Visit to get 30% off your first subscription order of Ketone-IQ™
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190: The Meat Mafia Podcast - Leading a Purpose-Driven Life Through Entrepreneurship & Spirituality
11/09/2023
190: The Meat Mafia Podcast - Leading a Purpose-Driven Life Through Entrepreneurship & Spirituality
Brett Ender and Harry Gray are hosts of The Meat Mafia Podcast and co-founders of Noble Origins, a nose-to-tail nourishment company. They chat with Dr. Anthony Gustin about entrepreneurship, spirituality, fixing a broken food system, leading a purpose-driven life, and more. Tune in to the episode to hear them discuss: The entrepreneurial lessons Dr. Gustin has learned The dark side of selling a business Finding personal fulfillment vs. chasing monetary success Which supplements inspired Brett and Harry’s line of products Why investing in local communities may be more beneficial than solving problems at scale How regenerative agriculture may be the easiest way to get people back to human wholeness What they each hope to contribute to fix the broken food system The power of supportive local communities What traditional religion gets wrong and how spirituality manifests in their daily lives Resources mentioned in this episode: Brett Ender and Harry Gray’s The Meat Mafia Podcast (//) Brett and Harry’s company,
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189: Julie Friend - Raising Multi-Species in a Forest & Pasture-Based System
10/31/2023
189: Julie Friend - Raising Multi-Species in a Forest & Pasture-Based System
Julie Friend is a regenerative farmer and founder of Wildom Farm. She chats with Dr. Anthony Gustin about how she holistically and humanely raises multi-species in a forest and pasture-based system. Tune in to the episode to hear them discuss: What inspired Julie to leave Chicago (and a job in fashion) to become a farmer What it was like adjusting from urban to rural life Why buying from local farmers eliminates food confusion How to build an intentional brand around a farm and diversify The perks of opening a farm store The differences between forest and pasture-raised pork How species-appropriate diets and native foraging affect pigs Achieving nose-to-tail utilization with small processors The wave of women in the regenerative agriculture space Resources mentioned in this episode: Julie Friend’s Wildom Farm’s
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188: AJ Richards - Shake the Hand that Feeds You
10/24/2023
188: AJ Richards - Shake the Hand that Feeds You
AJ Richards is a fifth-generation rancher and a seasoned expert in agriculture and food supply chain management. He chats with Dr. Anthony Gustin about why he’s launching the Airbnb of hyperlocal food supply, where farmers and ranchers connect directly with consumers nationwide. Tune in to the episode to hear them discuss: The biggest issues with our current food supply chain model Why our food chain’s fragility is a national security issue (and which countries control 85% of our meat) What happens if the largest meat supplier in the world goes public Why it’s so important to “shake hands” with your local farmers and ranchers What the new “Agrarian Movement” looks like, the future of regenerative agriculture, and what AJ’s most hopeful about Resources mentioned in this episode: AJ Richards’s website, Feed The People By The People’s AJ’s
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187: Chris Irvin - Just Try It For Yourself & See How You Feel
10/18/2023
187: Chris Irvin - Just Try It For Yourself & See How You Feel
Chris Irvin, aka The Ketologist, joins Dr. Anthony Gustin to discuss what’s new in their health journeys and what’s bothering them about the health and wellness community. Tune in to this episode to hear their thoughts on: Supplements and peptides like Methylene blue and BPC-157 Why obesity is probably not genetic The seed oil debate Studies and influencers that spoon-feed us the wrong information about our health The biggest problems with pharmaceutical companies and get-healthy-quick fixes What’s concerning about US Dietary Guidelines The magic of farmers’ markets Why Dr. Gustin’s so excited to dive into elk hunting Resources mentioned in this episode: Chris Irvin’s website, Chris’ genetic testing
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186: Dr. Casey Means - Restoring the Pillars of Metabolic Health To Power Your Purpose
10/09/2023
186: Dr. Casey Means - Restoring the Pillars of Metabolic Health To Power Your Purpose
Dr. Casey Means is the Chief Medical Officer and Co-founder of the metabolic health company Levels. She chats with Dr. Anthony Gustin about the eight “pillars” of metabolic health and how to reach your peak state. Metabolic dysfunction is at the root of almost all modern health conditions. Those diseases are responsible for 9/10 of the leading causes of death in the US. So Dr. Gustin and Dr. Casey kick off their conversation by discussing the two biggest ways society is harming our cells and underpowering our bodies. Then they explore what it takes to overcome those obstacles, stop being a “product” for corporations to exploit, and take back your health. Along the way, the pair discuss topics like: The problematic concept of exercise What people don’t understand about prediabetes The truth about triglycerides vs. LDL cholesterol How to assess your metabolic health (& the most important test to get) Leveraging CGM data as an effective biofeedback tool (it’s more than noticing blood sugar spikes) The best tips to improve your metabolic health, from easy to advanced How to win a free Levels kit! Resources mentioned in this episode: Dr. Casey Means’ company Dr. Casey’s and Dr. Casey’s giveaway: !
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185: Myles Snider - Food Philosophies and Intuitive Cooking
10/02/2023
185: Myles Snider - Food Philosophies and Intuitive Cooking
Myles Snider is a chef, real food enthusiast, and creator of 80/20 Cooking. He chats with Dr. Anthony Gustin about the benefits of intuitive cooking and their shared food philosophies. As you’ll hear, intuitive cooking is the exact opposite of following step-by-step recipes. It’s about mastering the basics and using all your senses to freestyle healthy, nourishing meals that make the most of local, seasonally available, fresh ingredients. So in this episode, Myles and Dr. Gustin dish about food shopping tips, biodynamic farming, and why “almost any food can be healthy.” They even brainstorm a few reasons for why you feel hungry and unsatisfied after eating at the best restaurants. Other topics include: The difference between well-cooked food and a nourishing meal Why stressing about food macros may do more harm than good How your location and season naturally influence your eating preferences Foods Myles avoids Using high-quality condiments (like oils, vinegars, and the best ketchup!) to add excitement to simple staple meals How to transform “unhealthy” foods into nutritious noshes The magic and science of open-fire cooking (and why it’s the best cooking skill) Resources mentioned in this episode: Myles Snider’s Myles’ and
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184: Cliff Pollard - Fixing the Missing Middle of Regenerative Farm To Fork
08/28/2023
184: Cliff Pollard - Fixing the Missing Middle of Regenerative Farm To Fork
Cliff Pollard is the CEO and founder of Cream Co. Meats, which distributes, markets, and directly invests in over 20 small producers and sustainable, regenerative, family-owned farms. He chats with Dr. Anthony Gustin about what it takes to even the playing field between mainstream and farm-direct distribution. Many of us don’t like to think about what happens to an animal after it leaves a farm and before it winds up on our plates. But as Cliff explains, this middle step is a huge challenge for small, regenerative producers across the country. They discuss how this “missing middle” infrastructure for farmers to get their products to the consumer has changed over time and how Cliff’s team is working to fix our broken system. You’ll also hear about Cream Co.’s exciting Beef-to-Institution program that’s bringing grass-fed and finished meat from regenerative farms to 30 public schools in California. Other topics in this episode include: How many steps in the supply chain it takes to go from farm to fork What happens when animals go from the pasture to commodity processing The difficulties small/medium farmers and ranchers face getting to market (and Dr. Gustin’s own first-hand experience) The “spectrum of sustainability” when comparing sustainable vs. regenerative producers Mobile meat processing units Whether small farms should invest in an online store with direct-to-consumer shipping How you can support small, local regenerative producers Resource mentioned in this episode: Cliff Pollard’s
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183: Bastian Groiss - Scheduling Your Day Using Circadian Biological Timing
08/22/2023
183: Bastian Groiss - Scheduling Your Day Using Circadian Biological Timing
What are the best times to wake up, eat, work out, focus, and sleep according to circadian biology? There’s an app for that! Bastian Groiss is the director & co-founder of Circadian, an app that helps you achieve a more natural state of health by aligning your daily activities and location with circadian biological timing. Dr. Anthony Gustin chats with Bastian about his ongoing curiosity with circadian biology. They discuss how different sunlight stages impact everything from our energy levels, moods, and mental performance to modern-day diseases and our overall well-being. In this episode, you’ll hear about: The evolutionary relationship humans have with sunlight Why it’s almost scientifically impossible to be healthy or happy spending 99% of your day indoors How indoor light (natural vs. artificial) and outdoor light (UVA vs. UVB) affect our bodies Why phasing out incandescent light bulbs may be a mistake The circadian biology way to start your mornings with more energy (sans caffeine) What an “overdose” of blue light may cause The four circadian cues that optimize our bodies for health and wellness Getting over the comfort crisis Resources mentioned in this episode: by Nora T. Gedgaudas “” by Dr. Jack Kruse by Michael Easter Visit to get 30% off your first subscription order of Ketone-IQ™
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182: Sarah Kleiner - Optimizing Circadian Biology for Hormone Balance & Health
08/07/2023
182: Sarah Kleiner - Optimizing Circadian Biology for Hormone Balance & Health
Sarah Kleiner is a Quantum Health Coach with the Quantum Biology Collective (levels 1 & 2). She chats with Dr. Anthony Gustin about how to use circadian biology to reset hormone imbalances and improve your health. Sarah also shares her best tips for combatting “invisible” light sources from WiFi and non-native EMF (and why we should do so). You may know Sarah from the carnivore community, where she enjoyed and touted the health benefits of carb-free living. But after struggling with multiple failed IVF rounds and miscarriages, she turned to circadian biology, quantum health, and local, seasonal food. The results shifted her entire platform, which you’ll hear about during the episode. Sarah and Dr. Gustin also explore: How light and low-carb diets impact hormones like leptin, cortisol, and melatonin (and how those imbalances affect your health) How a leptin resistance protocol helped Sarah optimize her hormones, lose 30 pounds, and give birth at 43 (without excessive dieting and exercise) The power of local, seasonal food Why deuterium may be the secret to better health and anti-aging (and the best food sources for it) Simple, natural, free tips to get more sunlight and get your circadian biology back on track Resources mentioned in this episode: Sarah Kleiner’s Sarah’s Sarah’s to Building the Perfect Quantum Day Sarah’s (use code PODCAST for 10% off any course!) Dr. Jack Kruse’s Dr. László Boros’s by Gerald H. Pollack by Arthur Firstenberg Visit to get 30% off your first subscription order of Ketone-IQ™
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181: Dr. Chadi Nabhan - The True Story Behind The Monsanto Cancer Trials
07/31/2023
181: Dr. Chadi Nabhan - The True Story Behind The Monsanto Cancer Trials
Dr. Chadi Nabhan is an oncologist who testified as an expert witness in the first three litigation trials against Monsanto and their potentially cancer-causing herbicide Roundup. He chats with Dr. Anthony Gustin about all the “courtroom drama” and research he uncovered. Roundup is the most common weed killer in the world. Glyphosate (the active ingredient) taints our soil, waterways, and food — it’s even in 97% of people’s urine. Dr. Nabhan specializes in Non-Hodgkin’s Lymphoma, a disease in which malignant cancer cells form in the lymph system. He explains Roundup’s link to cancer and other health conditions and why the courts have been ruling plaintiffs billions of dollars in damages. You’ll also hear about: The chemical history of glyphosate Why Roundup’s formulation increases glyphosate absorption in our skin How researchers in the Agricultural Health Study (AHS) and regulators like the EPA mishandled the science linking glyphosate to cancer Why the internal “Monsanto Papers” reveal the company knew about these dangers all along What Roundup-ready seeds (i.e., glyphosate-resistant plants) mean for the health of our food system Dr. Nabhan’s new book: Toxic Exposure: The True Story Behind The Monsanto Trials And The Search For Justice Resources mentioned in this episode: Dr. Chadi Nabhan’s Dr. Nabhan’s Dr. Nabhan’s book:
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180: Georgie Ryan - A Primer On Quantum Health & Circadian Biology
07/24/2023
180: Georgie Ryan - A Primer On Quantum Health & Circadian Biology
Georgie Ryan comes on the show to teach Dr. Anthony Gustin all about quantum health and circadian biology. Quantum health is a new rabbit hole Dr. Gustin is eager to explore. It suspends everything we know about nutrition to take a nano-perspective of how electrons from our food and environment give us energy. As Georgie explains, macronutrients like carbs and fat are only one way to power our bodies. He shares four more ways we can soak up electrons (and one that may be even better than food). But we can’t really leverage those electrons without the power of UV light. So Georgie breaks down the basics of circadian biology, which is how sunlight influences everything from our hormone and neurotransmitter production to our gut microbiome. Tune into this episode, and you’ll also hear about: Foods with the highest availability of electrons Water and hydration from a quantum perspective How to follow an ideal circadian rhythm optimized for each sunlight phase Why sunlight during the UVA rise sets the tone for how you feel the rest of the day The most important meal in circadian biology The nuances of melatonin for your body’s repair and restoration cycles (and how to avoid suppressing it) Resources mentioned in this episode: Georgie Ryan’s website, Georgie’s , the doctor studying the role of mitochondrial energy in human health and disease by Gerald H. Pollack The app and : red and near-infrared lights Visit to get 30% off your first subscription order of Ketone-IQ™
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179: James Arthur Smith - Is Regenerative Aquaculture the Future of Seafood?
07/17/2023
179: James Arthur Smith - Is Regenerative Aquaculture the Future of Seafood?
James Arthur Smith is the founder and CEO of Seatopia. His carbon-neutral, certified mercury-safe seafood subscription box relies on seafood farmers who practice regenerative aquaculture. Not familiar with the term? It’s like regenerative agriculture, but in the water instead of on land. James explains the nuances of aquaculture farming to Dr. Anthony Gustin. He discusses how it increases biodiversity, restores ecosystems, and produces healthier fish for us. They talk about seafood provenance and why farm-raised vs. wild-caught isn’t the right question to ask (and highlight which questions you *should* be asking about your seafood). There’s so much misinformation in our seafood supply chain that it’s easy to feel confused and stop eating fish altogether like Dr. Gustin did. But just like regenerative agriculture is changing the way we farm, regenerative aquaculture is becoming the future of mercury-safe, antibiotic-free, sustainable seafood farming you can feel good about. In this episode, you’ll learn: How Shamu and a steelhead trout breeding and hatchery program ignited James’ passion for regenerative aquaculture When farm-raised is better than wild-caught fish The dark side of commercial and line-caught fishing How microplastics and heavy metals like mercury get into our water systems and move up the sealife food chain What sushi-grade fish means and why sushi chefs don’t work with fresh, wild-caught fish How the carbon footprints of farm-raised vs. wild-caught fish compare Best practices for freezing, storing, and using frozen fish Resources mentioned in this episode: James Arthur Smith’s company, James’
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178: Paul Greive - Hatching the Pasture-Raised Poultry Revolution
07/10/2023
178: Paul Greive - Hatching the Pasture-Raised Poultry Revolution
Paul Greive is a USMC War Veteran and the co-founder of Pasturebird, the world’s largest daily-move pastured poultry operation. He also helped launch Primal Pastures, a direct-to-consumer regenerative organic farm in southern California. Paul chats with Dr. Anthony Gustin about how he got into farming, why he credits Lyme disease for kicking off his interest in regenerative agriculture, and how his startups were born. They also discuss the importance of raising animals in their natural pasture habitat, both for the environment and the added nutritional benefits. Paul then explains the difference between pasture-raised, cage-free, and free-range chickens. Then he and Dr. Gustin talk about why geese are totally underrated in the US. You’ll even hear how Pasturebird uses the largest land-based electric vehicles in the world to help their chickens automatically move a full spot every 24 hours. Tune in to the episode to discover more about: The challenges of scaling pasture-raised poultry The major cost drivers of getting chicken from the pasture to your table Biomimicry and the next big wave in ag tech A better financing model for regenerative farming, including tokenization and fractional ownership of farmlands Paul’s thoughts on the Farm Bill and other government programs and regulations Resources mentioned in this episode: Paul Greive’s direct-to-consumer regenerative organic farm Paul’s pasture-raised poultry company Paul’s Paul’s mentor Find your local pasture-raised farm at Visit to get 30% off your first subscription order of Ketone-IQ™
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177: Andrew Lacy - Proactive Body Imaging: A Catalyst for Better Health
07/03/2023
177: Andrew Lacy - Proactive Body Imaging: A Catalyst for Better Health
Imagine having a window into your own body — before you’re sick or symptomatic enough to warrant an MRI from your doctor. Andrew Lacy is the founder and CEO of Prenuvo, a health tech company specializing in proactive whole-body diagnostic imaging. He chats with Dr. Anthony Gustin about patient-driven early detection of cancer and other major health issues. Despite following the best wellness routine, most of us don’t have a black-and-white picture of how our lifestyle will affect our health trajectory over the next 10 or even 20 years. Uncovering this data could be our catalyst for change. It may empower us to make more informed decisions to advocate for our long-term wellness. It may change our “I feel good today, so why worry” mindset. And it may even help us catch early signs of cancer at stage 1 instead of suffering the devastating shock at stage 4. Dr. Gustin and his wife recently went for Prenuvo scans, which you’ll hear about during the episode. He and Andrew also discuss: The perfect candidates for proactive screens. The general flow of how the screening process works. The importance of early detection for everything from cancer and aneurysms to back problems and issues caused by chronic metabolic disorders. The pros and cons of different imaging processes (CT vs. MRI vs. X-ray). What can/cannot be detected, and the most commonly detected conditions. The advantages and challenges of using AI in imaging analysis. Where insurance companies stand on preventative scans now and in the future. Using your scan data as a catalyst for taking better care of your health. Resources mentioned in this episode: Andrew Lacy’s (visit for $300 off your Whole-Body scan) Andrew’s The Andrew mentioned
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176: Dr. Jill Crista - Breaking the Mold To Take Back Your Health
06/24/2023
176: Dr. Jill Crista - Breaking the Mold To Take Back Your Health
Dr. Jill Crista is a leading expert at the forefront of diagnosing and treating mold-related illnesses. She comes on the show to discuss how mycotoxins harm your health while flying under the radar of conventional testing and medical protocols. A trained functional medicine naturopath, Dr. Jill first encountered mold sickness when she couldn’t help a group of Lyme disease patients feel better. Turns out, all but one tested positive for mold. Dr. Jill then moved into a new house with an uninvited resident (hint: it was mold) and watched her family struggle with symptoms before realizing the cause, further prompting her research. If mold is lurking anywhere, it’s affecting you. But you can naturally detox your body and heal using the wisdom Dr. Jill shares in this episode, including: Common symptoms of mold sickness. The best collection models and tests for your home and health. Why inspectors and medical experts turn a blind eye to mycotoxins (even though they cause 70-80% of mold sickness symptoms). How mycotoxins change your immune system and increase allergy sensitivities. The best ways to eliminate mycotoxins and help your body naturally detox (including which foods to eat and avoid). What makes mold more aggressive and encourages more mycotoxin production (and why routes like burning clean incense may help). Mentioned in This Episode Dr. Jill Crista’s Dr. Jill’s Dr. Jill’s book Dr. Jill’s , , and More Resources
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175: Daniel Firth Griffith - The Regenerative Power of Holistically Managed & Wild Living Systems
04/17/2023
175: Daniel Firth Griffith - The Regenerative Power of Holistically Managed & Wild Living Systems
Daniel Firth Griffith is a man of many talents. Poet, author of three books, educator, farmer, hunter-husbandmand, entrepreneur, father — the list goes on. So he chats with Dr. Anthony Gustin about a variety of topics, from the importance of preserving ancient wisdom in literature to his holistic approach to regenerative farming, wildland ecology, food supply chains, and more. But you’ll quickly realize that Daniel isn’t like other experts in the regenerative ag space. He tends to take a more philosophical approach and challenges the status quo. Ventures like his video, “Soil Health Doesn’t Matter,” even send a ton of criticism and hate mail his way. Daniel’s passion, hot takes, and unique perspective make this an episode you can’t miss. Tune in to hear more about: Daniel’s approach to sharing his stories and writing his best-sellers Why it was so difficult for Daniel to get blurbs from regenerative ag experts for his new book The nuances of soil health and the confusion of verified regenerative protocols Why things are getting worse for smallholder family farms How we can “do local food better” Why Daniel disagrees with people who think we need to scale the regenerative movement to make an impact The power of collaboration and a “collective consciousness” for farmers Educating city dwellers about the importance of local, rural communities on food supply chains Why technology won’t save us from food scarcity Whether companies selling regenerative meats are actually helping The difference between Mother Culture and Mother Earth Resources mentioned in this episode: Daniel Firth Griffith’s Daniel’s podcast Daniel’s Daniel’s new book, Daniel’s previous book Daniel’s meat company Daniel’s holistic management school, Dr. Gustin’s
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174: Dr. Scott Lyons - Addicted To Drama? How To Break the Cycle
04/06/2023
174: Dr. Scott Lyons - Addicted To Drama? How To Break the Cycle
Dr. Scott Lyons is a holistic psychologist and author of Addicted to Drama: Healing Dependency on Crisis and Chaos in Yourself and Others. He chats with Dr. Anthony Gustin about why we shouldn’t dismiss the behavior of those who seem to thrive on drama as attention-seeking. Like any addiction, engaging in conflict may be a way of coping with deeper psychological issues and trauma. As he explains, we all develop survival patterns during infancy in response to emotional or psychological wounding. We may become hypervigilant and chronically anxious about our external world, yet numb or unable to process what we feel internally. So you’ll hear why becoming a “drama queen” may be the body’s way of seeking extreme experiences just to feel *something* again. To metabolize emotions stuck deep in our core identities. But we can unlearn these behavior patterns, and Dr. Lyons shares a few helpful tips on how to do so. In this episode, you’ll discover more about: What it means to be addicted to drama How pain and trauma manifest as chaos and chronic stress in our lives How our caregivers during infancy influence how we regulate our emotions throughout life Shifting patterns from our stress response cycle to truly satisfy our underlying emotional needs Why understanding our identity formation may be the key to healing The benefits of being in resonance with our emotions and how it improves our relationships with ourselves and others Resources mentioned in this episode: Dr. Scott Lyons’ Dr. Lyons’ book: Dr. Lyons’ Dr. Lyons’ by Bessel van der Kolk, M.D Visit to get 30% off your first subscription order of Ketone-IQ™
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173: Dr. Terry Wahls - Improving Progressive Multiple Sclerosis Outcomes Using Nutrition and Lifestyle Changes
03/27/2023
173: Dr. Terry Wahls - Improving Progressive Multiple Sclerosis Outcomes Using Nutrition and Lifestyle Changes
Dr. Terry Wahls was diagnosed with secondary progressive Multiple Sclerosis (MS) diagnosis in 2007. She was bedridden and could barely walk and sitting up was a challenge for her. As a medical doctor, she dove into aggressive treatment options to try to beat her disease and symptoms, but unfortunately, they didn’t find much relief. She also dealt with debilitating pain that made it hard for her to work and function normally. Instead of succumbing to MS, Dr. Wahls vowed to do everything she could to alleviate the awful symptoms she was dealing with. It led her down a path of discovering nutritional and lifestyle therapies that could offer real relief. They were so effective that she became active again, both walking and cycling, and she returned to living a normal life, free from being wheelchair-bound, with a huge increase in her quality of life. She went on to develop The Wahls Protocol and led several research studies, including eight clinical trials, that proved just how effective these dietary changes are in treating progressive MS. In this episode with Dr. Anthony Gustin, you’ll hear about Dr. Wahls’ inspiring and incredible health journey, how nutrition can drastically impact autoimmune conditions, and the diets that can help these conditions. You’ll also hear her thoughts on using the carnivore diet for autoimmune conditions, the two nutrient-dense foods she recommends eating whether you’re sick or not, and the spiritual component of healing and health. Dr. Wahl also shares the symptoms and conditions that may be a red flag for future autoimmune issues, what you can do to treat those before they become worse, and the mindset she adopted to help herself and her family get through the most challenging parts of her health journey. Dr. Terry Wahls is a clinical professor of medicine at the University of Iowa Carver College of Medicine. She teaches internal medicine residents in their primary care clinics and does clinical research. Dr. Wahls has been published in over 60 peer-reviewed scientific abstracts, posters, and papers, and her work has been cited thousands of times. She’s also on her eighth clinic trial, working hard to show that dietary and lifestyle interventions are effective treatment options for people suffering from autoimmune conditions. In this episode, you’ll learn about the following topics: Dr. Terry Wahls’ incredible health journey and how she went from barely being able to walk or sit up to being active again and living a high quality of life despite being diagnosed with secondary progressive MS Dr. Wahls’ aha moment in her healing health journey and how she started researching alternative treatment options The diets being studied for progressive MS treatments and which ones have shown the most promising results The nutrients she focused on adding to her diet to start repairing her mitochondrial health Is the carnivore diet a good option for people with autoimmune conditions like MS? Is there only one diet or more than one that works at increasing the longevity and quality of life in MS patients? Two nutrient-dense foods Dr. Wahls included in her diet to improve her MS outcomes Other conditions that may benefit from The Wahls Protocol The other lifestyle factors Dr. Wahls addressed aside from nutrition to improve her condition and quality of life The spiritual component to better health and healing What keeps Dr. Wahls going now that she’s seen incredible improvements in her condition Resources mentioned: Dr. Terry Wahls’ Dr. Terry Wahls’ , , , and channel Where you can Dr. Wahls’ book,
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172: Dr. Will Cole - Addressing Shameflammation and Stored Trauma to Optimize Health
03/20/2023
172: Dr. Will Cole - Addressing Shameflammation and Stored Trauma to Optimize Health
Dr. Will Cole, a leading functional medicine expert and best-selling author, discusses a term he came up with, shameflammation, and dives into what that is and why it could be an underlying health issue for many people, including healthy patients. Dr. Cole also addresses the connection between mental and physical health, stored traumas, the difference between shame and guilt, and more in this episode. You’ll also hear about the free interventions Dr. Cole recommends using to address these issues and more about his latest book, Gut Feelings: Healing the Shame-Fueled Relationship Between What You Eat and How You Feel. Dr. Will Cole is a leading functional medicine expert who has been in practice for over 13 years. He uses telehealth practices to help patients all over the world. Dr. Cole has also written four books, hosts a podcast called The Art of Being Well, and has been recognized as one of the top 50 functional and integrative doctors nationwide. In this episode, you’ll hear more about: Understanding the connection between mental and physical health Dr. Will Cole’s term “shameflammation” and how shame impacts our health The difference between experiencing shame versus guilt Where does shameflammation come from? How stress and trauma are stored in the body and what can be done about it Interventions to improve both physical and mental health and resolve shameflammation Why aren’t these free interventions being prescribed by traditional doctors? Is it because there’s no money to be made from them? How healthy habits could be making your health worse and what you can do to fix this What Dr. Cole’s personal journey looks like Working to address intergenerational trauma Dr. Cole’s experience with psychedelics for treating trauma and other alternative treatment options Information on his latest book, Gut Feelings: Healing the Shame-Fueled Relationship Between What You Eat and How You Feel Resources mentioned in this episode: Dr. Will Cole’s Dr. Cole’s , , , and channel Dr. Cole’s latest book, , by Bessel van der Kolk M.D. , by Stanislav Grof Visit to get 30% off your first subscription order of Ketone-IQ™
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