Functional Relations
An ABA podcast where Dr. Zachary Bird and Dr. Caleb Davis set aside time to have engaging conversation with experts in the field of behavior analysis to explore topics like ethics of functional analysis, effective supervision practices, translating research to practice, and others. BACB, IBAO, and QABA CEUs are available for listeners. To purchase, visit www.functionalrelationspodcast.com To deliver social praise or aversive stimulation, you can email us at functionalrelationspodcast@gmail.com
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#45 - Spreading the Science: Radical Behaviorism for All w/ Dr. Matt Normand
08/01/2026
#45 - Spreading the Science: Radical Behaviorism for All w/ Dr. Matt Normand
In this episode, Zach and Caleb discuss a recent paper on radical behaviorism and the dissemination of those ideas with Dr. Matt Normand. 1.5 General CEU (BACB, IBAO, and/or QABA) is available for this episode. You can purchase them at Become a member to get access to our entire library of CEs and access exclusive behind the scenes content for $79/yr. References: Johnston, J. M. (2014). Radical behaviorism for ABA practitioners. Sloan Publishing. Johnston, J. M., & Ahearn, W. H. (2026). The status of radical behaviorism. Perspectives on Behavior Science, 1-16. Moore, J. (2008). Conceptual foundations of radical behaviorism. Schlinger, H. D., & Normand, M. P. (2026). Radical Behaviorism: A Primer for the Profession and the Person. Perspectives on Behavior Science, 1-19.
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#44 - Leveling Up the Respondent-Operant Distinction w/ Dr. Michael Domjan
07/01/2026
#44 - Leveling Up the Respondent-Operant Distinction w/ Dr. Michael Domjan
In this episode, Zach and Caleb discuss the distinction between operant and respondent behavior with Dr. Michael Domjan. 1.5 General CEU (BACB, IBAO, and/or QABA) is available for this episode. You can purchase them at Become a member to get access to our entire library of CEs and access exclusive behind the scenes content for $79/yr. Things to check out from the episode: Dr. Domjan's Youtube channel: Dr. Domjan's textbooks discussed during the episode: References: Brown, P. L., & Jenkins, H. M. (1968). AUTO‐SHAPING OF THE PIGEON'S KEY‐PECK 1. Journal of the experimental analysis of behavior, 11(1), 1-8. Domjan, M. (2016). Elicited versus emitted behavior: Time to abandon the distinction. Journal of the Experimental Analysis of Behavior, 105(2), 231-245. Skinner, B. F. (1965). Science and human behavior (No. 92904). Simon and Schuster. Skinner, B. F. (2019). The behavior of organisms: An experimental analysis. BF Skinner Foundation.
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#43 - Analyzing Complex Teacher-Student Interactions w/ Dr. Corey Stocco and Molly Dwyer
06/01/2026
#43 - Analyzing Complex Teacher-Student Interactions w/ Dr. Corey Stocco and Molly Dwyer
In this episode, Zach and Caleb discuss analyzing teacher-student interactions with Dr. Corey Stocco (BCBA-D) and Molly Dwyer (BCBA). 1.5 General CEU (BACB, IBAO, and/or QABA) is available for this episode. You can purchase it at Become a member to get access to our entire library of CEs and access exclusive behind the scenes content for $79/yr. Things to check out from the episode: Learn more about the Nurtured Heart Approach References: Athens, E. S., & Vollmer, T. R. (2010). An investigation of differential reinforcement of alternative behavior without extinction. Journal of Applied Behavior Analysis, 43(4), 569-589. Patterson, G. R. (2002). The early development of coercive family process. In J. B. Reid, G. R. Patterson, & J. Snyder (Eds.), Antisocial behavior in children and adolescents: A developmental analysis and model for intervention (pp. 25–44). Washington, DC: American Psychological Association. Sidman, M. (1989). Coercion and its fallout. Boston: Authors cooperative. Stocco, C. S., & Thompson, R. H. (2015). Contingency analysis of caregiver behavior: Implications for parent training and future directions. Journal of applied behavior analysis, 48(2), 417-435. Vollmer, T. R., Peters, K. P., Kronfli, F. R., Lloveras, L. A., & Ibañez, V. F. (2020). On the definition of differential reinforcement of alternative behavior. Journal of Applied Behavior Analysis, 53(3), 1299-1303.
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#42 - The Status of Radical Behaviorism w/ Dr. Bill Ahearn
05/01/2026
#42 - The Status of Radical Behaviorism w/ Dr. Bill Ahearn
In this episode, Zach and Caleb discuss a recent publication on the status of radical behaviorism with Dr. Bill Ahearn. 1 General CEU (BACB, IBAO, and/or QABA) is available for this episode. You can purchase it at Become a member to get access to our entire library of CEs and access exclusive behind the scenes content for $79/yr. References: Johnston, J. M., & Ahearn, W. H. (2026). The status of radical behaviorism. Perspectives on Behavior Science, 1-16. Skinner, B. F. (1984). Selection by consequences. Behavioral and brain sciences, 7(4), 477-481.
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#41 - Student Episode: 7 Dimensions of ABA
04/01/2026
#41 - Student Episode: 7 Dimensions of ABA
In this episode, Zach and Caleb have a discussion to help students understand the 7 dimensions of applied behavior analysis from the 1968 article "Some Current Dimensions of Applied Behavior Analysis" by Baer, Wolf, & Risley. This covers A.5. of the BCBA Test Content Outline (6th ed). No CEs are available for this episode. Become a member to get access to our entire library of CEs and access exclusive behind the scenes content for $79/yr. References: Cooper, J. O., Heron, T. E., & Heward, W. L. (2020). Applied behavior analysis (3rd ed.). Upper Saddle River, NJ: Pearson. Baer, D. M., Wolf, M. M., & Risley, T. R. (1968). Some current dimensions of applied behavior analysis. Journal of applied behavior analysis, 1(1), 91–97. https://doi.org/10.1901/jaba.1968.1-91
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#40 - Rethinking How We Teach Tacts w/ Dr. Judah Axe
03/01/2026
#40 - Rethinking How We Teach Tacts w/ Dr. Judah Axe
In this episode, Zach and Caleb discuss rethinking how we approach teaching tacts w/ Dr. Judah Axe. 0.5 Ethic/0.5 General CEU (BACB, IBAO, and/or QABA) is available for this episode. You can purchase it at Become a member to get access to our entire library of CEs and access exclusive behind the scenes content for $79/yr. Things to check out from the episode: References: Axe, J. B., & Laprime, A. P. (2017). The effects of contingent pairing on establishing praise as a reinforcer with children with autism. Journal of Developmental and Physical Disabilities, 29(2), 325-340. Bahry, S., Gerhardt, P. F., Weiss, M. J., Leaf, J. B., Putnam, R. F., & Bondy, A. (2023). The ethics of actually helping people: Targeting skill acquisition goals that promote meaningful outcomes for individuals with autism spectrum disorder. Behavior Analysis in Practice, 16(3), 672-695. Barosky, C. (2023). Antecedent variables influencing tacting with children with autism [Unpublished doctoral dissertation]. Simmons University. Clements, C. C., Zoltowski, A. R., Yankowitz, L. D., Yerys, B. E., Schultz, R. T., & Herrington, J. D. (2018). Evaluation of the social motivation hypothesis of autism: a systematic review and meta-analysis. JAMA psychiatry, 75(8), 797-808. Dozier, C. L., Iwata, B. A., Thomason‐Sassi, J., Worsdell, A. S., & Wilson, D. M. (2012). A comparison of two pairing procedures to establish praise as a reinforcer. Journal of applied behavior analysis, 45(4), 721-735. Dube, W. V., MacDonald, R. P., Mansfield, R. C., Holcomb, W. L., & Ahearn, W. H. (2004). Toward a behavioral analysis of joint attention. The Behavior Analyst, 27(2), 197-207. Dudley, L. L., Axe, J. B., Allen, R. F., & Sweeney‐Kerwin, E. J. (2019). Establishing praise as a conditioned reinforcer: Pairing with one versus multiple reinforcers. Behavioral Interventions, 34(4), 534-552. Lovaas, O. I. (1987). Behavioral treatment and normal educational and intellectual functioning in young autistic children. Journal of consulting and clinical psychology, 55(1), 3. Cengher, M., & Fienup, D. M. (2020). Presession attention affects the acquisition of tacts and intraverbals. Journal of Applied Behavior Analysis, 53(3), 1742-1767. Moher, C. A., Gould, D. D., Hegg, E., & Mahoney, A. M. (2008). Non‐generalized and generalized conditioned reinforcers: Establishment and validation. Behavioral Interventions: Theory & Practice in Residential & Community‐Based Clinical Programs, 23(1), 13-38. Skinner, B. F. (1957). Verbal behavior. New York: Appleton-Century-Crofts. Sundberg, M. L. (2008). VB-MAPP Verbal Behavior Milestones Assessment and Placement Program: a language and social skills assessment program for children with autism or other developmental disabilities: guide. Mark Sundberg. Sundberg, M. L., & Partington, J. W. (1998). Assessment of Basic Language and Learning Skills (ABLLS). Pleasant Hill, CA: Behavior Analysts, Inc.
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#39 - The Science of Positive Culture Building w/ Dr. Bruce Tinor
02/01/2026
#39 - The Science of Positive Culture Building w/ Dr. Bruce Tinor
In this episode, Zach and Caleb discuss practices that support building positive cultures within educational settings with Dr. Bruce Tinor. 1 Supervision CEU (BACB, IBAO, and/or QABA) is available for this episode. You can purchase it at Become a member to get access to our entire library of CEs and access exclusive behind the scenes content for $79/yr. Things to check out from the episode: Book on four hats of leadership: References: Skinner, B. F. (1984). Selection by consequences. Behavioral and brain sciences, 7(4), 477-481.
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#38 - Can I Take That $11 Gift Card? w/ Dr. Paula Kenyon
01/01/2026
#38 - Can I Take That $11 Gift Card? w/ Dr. Paula Kenyon
In this episode, Zach and Caleb discuss the BACB ethics codes related to giving gifts, accepting gifts, and multiple relationships with Dr. Paula Kenyon. 1 Ethics CEU (BACB, IBAO, and/or QABA) is available for this episode. You can purchase it at Become a member to get access to our entire library of CEs and access exclusive behind the scenes content for $79/yr. Things to check out from the episode: Link to book Daily Ethics: Link to Functional Relations Podcast Episode #1 where we first discuss this topic: Link to Functional Relations Podcast Episode w/ Dr. Tyra Sellers: References: - codes 1.11, 1.12
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#37 - Pavlovian Conditioning for the Applied Behavior Analyst w/ Dr. Michael Domjan
12/01/2025
#37 - Pavlovian Conditioning for the Applied Behavior Analyst w/ Dr. Michael Domjan
In this episode, Zach and Caleb discuss respondent concepts such as habituation, sensitization, and Pavlovian conditioning with Dr. Michael Domjan, and how these processes are relevant in applied clinical practice. 1.5 CEUs (BACB, IBAO, and/or QABA) are available for this episode. You can purchase them at Become a member to get access to our entire library of CEs and access exclusive behind the scenes content for $79/yr. Things to check out from the episode: Dr. Domjan's Youtube channel: Dr. Domjan's textbooks discussed during the episode: References: Breland, K., & Breland, M. (1961). The misbehavior of organisms. American psychologist, 16(11), 681. Groves, P. M., & Thompson, R. F. (1970). Habituation: a dual-process theory. Psychological review, 77(5), 419. Skinner, B. F. (1965). Science and human behavior (No. 92904). Simon and Schuster. Weinert, C., Maier, C., Laumer, S., & Weitzel, T. (2022). Repeated IT Interruption: Habituation and Sensitization of User Responses. Journal of Management Information Systems, 39(1), 187–217. Wolpe, J., Brady, J. P., Serber, M., Agras, W. S., & Liberman, R. P. (1973). The current status of systematic densitization. American Journal of Psychiatry, 130(9), 961-965.
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#36 - Did Skinner Meditate? Behaviorism Meets Contemplative Living w/ David Roth
11/01/2025
#36 - Did Skinner Meditate? Behaviorism Meets Contemplative Living w/ David Roth
In this episode, Zach and Caleb discuss a behavior analytic interpretation of contemplative practices with David Roth. 1.5 CEUs (BACB, IBAO, and/or QABA) are available for this episode. You can purchase them at Become a member to get access to our entire library of CEs and access exclusive behind the scenes content for $79/yr. Things to check out from the episode: David Roth's Podcast w/ Dr. David Palmer: Consider checking out the work of the B.F. Skinner Foundation: Link to BF Skinner Foundation bookstore to purchase Reflections on Behaviorism and Society: Behaviorism and Society: Link to pdf for Mindfulness in Plain English: David’s ResearchGate publication profile: Link to Skinner’s article What Religion Means to Me: David Roth gifted 50 of our listeners 3 free months of Sam Harris's Wake Up meditation app. Promo code: WU7A-6C28129A2A Redeem: This unlocks full access to the Waking Up app, including: 28-day introductory course Robust library of guided meditations In-depth talks on philosophy, science, and more Conversations with leading scholars and teachers References: Gunaratana, B. H. (2010). Mindfulness in plain English. ReadHowYouWant. com. Hanh, T. N. (2012). Old Path White Clouds: The Life Story of the Buddha. Random House. Skinner, B.F. (1980). Notebooks, B.F. Skinner. Englewood Cliffs, NJ: Prentice-Hall, Inc Skinner, B. F. (1987). What religion means to me.
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#35 - Ethics of AI in behavioral services w/ Dr. David Cox
10/02/2025
#35 - Ethics of AI in behavioral services w/ Dr. David Cox
In this episode, Zach and Caleb are joined by Dr. David Cox and discuss the ethics surrounding the use of AI in the delivery of behavioral services. 1 Ethics CEU (BACB, IBAO, and/or QABA) is available for this episode. You can purchase it at Become a member to get access to our entire library of CEs and access exclusive behind the scenes content for $79/yr. Things to check out from the episode: Dr. Cox's podcast: References: Cox, D. J. (2025). Ethical Behavior Analysis in the Age of Artificial Intelligence (AI): The Importance of Understanding Model Building while Formal AI Literacy Curricula are Developed. Perspectives on Behavior Science, 1-11. Cox, D. J., & Jennings, A. M. (2024). The promises and possibilities of artificial intelligence in the delivery of behavior analytic services. Behavior Analysis in Practice, 17(1), 123-136. O'neil, C. (2017). Weapons of math destruction: How big data increases inequality and threatens democracy. Crown.
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#34 - Feedback and Leadership w/ Dr. Paul "Paulie" Gavoni
09/01/2025
#34 - Feedback and Leadership w/ Dr. Paul "Paulie" Gavoni
In this episode, Zach and Caleb discuss feedback and leadership with Dr. Paul “Paulie” Gavoni. 1.5 Supervision CEs (BACB, IBAO, and/or QABA) are available for this episode. You can purchase them at Become a member to get access to our entire library of CEs and access exclusive behind the scenes content for $79/yr. Some of Dr. Gavoni’s books: References: Austin, J. (2000). Performance analysis and performance diagnostics. Handbook of applied behavior analysis, 321-349. Bukszpan, A. R., Leaf, J. B., O'Brien, J. G., Lewis, A., Kristiansen, S., Lord, J., ... & Weiss, M. J. (2025). Utilizing the Teaching Interaction Procedure to Train Special Education Teachers in Behavioral Artistry. Behavioral Interventions, 40(3), e70017. Green, D. R., Ferguson, J. L., Cihon, J. H., Torres, N., Leaf, R., McEachin, J., ... & Leaf, J. B. (2020). The teaching interaction procedure as a staff training tool. Behavior Analysis in Practice, 13(2), 421-433.
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#33 - Student Episode: Mentalism vs Radical Behaviorism
08/01/2025
#33 - Student Episode: Mentalism vs Radical Behaviorism
In this episode, Zach and Caleb have a discussion to help students understand radical behaviorism and pragmatism, and how these perspectives compare to mentalism. No CEs are available for this episode. Become a member to get access to our entire library of CEs and access exclusive behind the scenes content for $79/yr. References: Cooper, J. O., Heron, T. E., & Heward, W. L. (2020). Applied behavior analysis (3rd ed.). Upper Saddle River, NJ: Pearson. Moore, J. (2008). Conceptual foundations of radical behaviorism.
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#32 - Is Private Equity Good for ABA? w/ Dr. Cody Morris
07/01/2025
#32 - Is Private Equity Good for ABA? w/ Dr. Cody Morris
In this episode, Zach and Caleb discuss private equity as an ownership structure and its implications for ABA companies w/ Dr. Cody Morris. 1 Ethics CE (BACB, IBAO, and/or QABA) is available for this episode. You can purchase it at Become a member to get access to our entire library of CEs and access exclusive behind the scenes content for $79/yr. References: Morris, C. (2025). Private Equity in Behavior Analysis: A Reckoning. Perspectives on Behavior Science, 1-7. Morris, C., Grauerholz-Fisher, E., Ellsworth, M. E., & Crocker, C. E. (2024). A primer on private equity ownership in ABA. Behavior Analysis in Practice, 1-10. Palley, H. A. (1985). The Social Transformation of American Medicine.
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#31 - Challenging the 4-Function Worldview w/ Dr. Adithyan "Dithu" Rajaraman
06/01/2025
#31 - Challenging the 4-Function Worldview w/ Dr. Adithyan "Dithu" Rajaraman
In this episode Zach and Caleb are joined by Dr. Adithyan "Dithu" Rajaraman where the discussion focuses on challenging the 4-function worldview in the context of assessing and treating problem behavior. 2 CEs (BACB, IBAO, and/or QABA) are available for this episode. You can purchase them at If you feel that our podcast is a valuable contribution to the field of ABA, please consider supporting us on Patreon at To connect with Dithu and the FTF team for a number of different types of support in serving individuals with severe problem behavior (among other behavioral challenges), click here: References: Pertaining to Mand compliance:1. Seminal Paper: Bowman, L. G., Fisher, W. W., Thompson, R. H., & Piazza, C. C. (1997). On the relation of mands and the function of destructive behavior. Journal of applied behavior analysis, 30(2), 251-265. 2. Literature review: Rajaraman, A., & Hanley, G. P. (2021). Mand compliance as a contingency controlling problem behavior: A systematic review. Journal of Applied Behavior Analysis, 54(1), 103-121. Pertaining to the evolution of functional analysis: 1. Carr, E. G. (1977). The motivation of self-injurious behavior: a review of some hypotheses. Psychological bulletin, 84(4), 800. 2. Iwata, B. A., Dorsey, M. F., Slifer, K. J., Bauman, K. E., & Richman, G. S. (1994). Toward a functional analysis of self‐injury. Journal of applied behavior analysis, 27(2), 197-209. 3. Hanley, G. P., Iwata, B. A., & McCord, B. E. (2003). Functional analysis of problem behavior: A review. Journal of applied behavior analysis, 36(2), 147-185. On Literature reviews:Narrative review examples: 1. Thompson, R. H., & Iwata, B. A. (2005). A review of reinforcement control procedures. Journal of applied behavior analysis, 38(2), 257-278. 2. Friman, P. C., Hayes, S. C., & Wilson, K. G. (1998). Why behavior analysts should study emotion: The example of anxiety. Journal of applied Behavior analysis, 31(1), 137-156. 3. Rajaraman, A., Austin, J. L., Gover, H. C., Cammilleri, A. P., Donnelly, D. R., & Hanley, G. P. (2022). Toward trauma‐informed applications of behavior analysis. Journal of Applied Behavior Analysis, 55(1), 40-61. Systematic or Scoping review (not meta-analyses) examples relevant to the discussion: 1. Jessel, J., Hanley, G. P., & Ghaemmaghami, M. (2020). On the standardization of the functional analysis. Behavior analysis in practice, 13, 205-216. 2. Ghaemmaghami, M., Hanley, G. P., & Jessel, J. (2021). Functional communication training: From efficacy to effectiveness. Journal of applied behavior analysis, 54(1), 122-143. 3. Howell, M., Dounavi, K., & Storey, C. (2019). To choose or not to choose?: A systematic literature review considering the effects of antecedent and consequence choice upon on-task and problem behaviour. Review Journal of Autism and Developmental Disorders, 6, 63-84. 4. Hustyi, K. M., Logue, J. J., & Hall, S. S. (2025). Skill-based treatment for challenging behavior in autism spectrum disorder: A scoping review of treatment characteristics and outcomes. Research in Autism Spectrum Disorders, 119, 102523. 5. Cengher, M., Bowman, M. D., Shawler, L. A., & Ceribo‐Singh, M. S. M. (2022). A systematic review of mands for information. Behavioral Interventions, 37(3), 864-886. Meta-analyses examples relevant to the discussion: 1. Gover, H. C., Hanley, G. P., & Ruppel, K. W. (2022). On the generality of preference for contingent reinforcement. Journal of Applied Behavior Analysis, 55(2), 318-336. 2. Slaton, J. D., & Hanley, G. P. (2018). Nature and scope of synthesis in functional analysis and treatment of problem behavior. Journal of Applied Behavior Analysis, 51(4), 943-973. 3. Layman, L. N., Dufrene, B. A., Ackley, M. M., Weaver, C. M., Schneider, D. E., LaBrot, Z. C., ... & Olmi, D. J. (2024). Interview-informed synthesized contingency analyses on challenging problem behavior: A single-case meta-analysis. Review Journal of Autism and Developmental Disorders, 11(3), 640-658.
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#30 - Cultural Selection and Living a Good Life w/ Dr. Dave Palmer
05/01/2025
#30 - Cultural Selection and Living a Good Life w/ Dr. Dave Palmer
In the episode, Zach and Caleb discuss cultural selection and how it can be used to make improvements to your life with Dr. Dave Palmer. Check out all the things going on at the B.F. Skinner Foundation: 1 CE is available for this episode. You can purchase it at If you feel that our podcast is a valuable contribution to the field of ABA, please consider supporting us on Patreon at References: Skinner, B. F. (1984). Selection by consequences. Behavioral and brain sciences, 7(4), 477-481. Skinner, Burrhus Frederic. "What is wrong with daily life in the western world?." American psychologist 41, no. 5 (1986): 568. Skinner, B. F. (2005). Walden two. Hackett Publishing.
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#29 - Enhance Your Supervision w/ Dr. Ellie Kazemi
04/01/2025
#29 - Enhance Your Supervision w/ Dr. Ellie Kazemi
In this episode, Zach and Caleb discuss how to plan and structure supervision with Dr. Ellie Kazemi. 1 Supervision CE is available for this episode. You can purchase it at If you feel that our podcast is a valuable contribution to the field of ABA, please consider supporting us on Patreon at Dr. Kazemi’s book on supervision: Discount Code: AUTHOR30 Dr. Pat Friman Video: References: Kazemi, E., Adzhyan, P., & Rice, B. (2024). Fieldwork and supervision for behavior analysts: A handbook. Springer Publishing Company.
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#28 - How YOU Can Bring ABA to Hospitals w/ Dr. Casey Clay
03/01/2025
#28 - How YOU Can Bring ABA to Hospitals w/ Dr. Casey Clay
In this episode, Zach and Caleb talk to Dr. Casey Clay about how behavior analysts can bring ABA to hospital settings. 1 learning CE is available for this episode. You can purchase it at If you feel that our podcast is a valuable contribution to the field of ABA, please consider supporting us on Patreon at References: Allen, K. D., Barone, V. J., & Kuhn, B. R. (1993). A behavioral prescription for promoting applied behavior analysis within pediatrics. Journal of Applied Behavior Analysis, 26(4), 493-502. Friman, P. C. (2010). Come on in, the water is fine: Achieving mainstream relevance through integration with primary medical care. The Behavior Analyst, 33, 19-36. Hagopian, L. P., Kurtz, P. F., Bowman, L. G., O’Connor, J. T., & Cataldo, M. F. (2023). A neurobehavioral continuum of care for individuals with intellectual and developmental disabilities with severe problem behavior. Children's Health Care, 52(1), 45-69. Lambert, J. M., Staubitz, J. E., Roane, J. T., Houchins‐Juárez, N. J., Juárez, A. P., Sanders, K. B., & Warren, Z. E. (2017). Outcome summaries of latency‐based functional analyses conducted in hospital inpatient units. Journal of Applied Behavior Analysis, 50(3), 487-494.
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#27 - The Future of ABA is Now: AI, VR, and Ethics w/ Dr. Ellie Kazemi
02/01/2025
#27 - The Future of ABA is Now: AI, VR, and Ethics w/ Dr. Ellie Kazemi
In this episode, Zach and Caleb discuss new technology with Dr. Ellie Kazemi, and its implications for training, ethics, and the future of ABA. Bill Gates discussing the internet with Letterman in 1995: To further support us, check out our silly video at References: Chang, A. A., Kazemi, E., Esmaeili, V., & Davies, M. S. (2024). The effectiveness of virtual reality training: A systematic review. Journal of Organizational Behavior Management, 44(3), 214-232. DiGennaro Reed, F. D., Blackman, A. L., Erath, T. G., Brand, D., & Novak, M. D. (2018). Guidelines for using behavioral skills training to provide teacher support. Teaching Exceptional Children, 50(6), 373-380. Hineline, P. N. (1983). When we speak of knowing. The Behavior Analyst, 6(2), 183. Lotfizadeh, A. D., McCoy, E., & Kazemi, E. (2024). Robots as behavior change agents: Can robots teach behavior technicians to implement differential reinforcement?. Behavior Analysis: Research and Practice. Shapiro, M., & Kazemi, E. (2017). A review of training strategies to teach individuals implementation of behavioral interventions. Journal of Organizational Behavior Management, 37(1), 32-62.
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#26 - Behavioral Economics for Real-World Interventions w/ Dr. Brent Kaplan
01/01/2025
#26 - Behavioral Economics for Real-World Interventions w/ Dr. Brent Kaplan
In this episode, Zach and Caleb discuss using behavioral economics for real-world interventions with Dr. Brent Kaplan. Check out Dr. Kaplan’s Website to access copies of his publications, try out his behavioral-oriented software, and view other projects he’s working on: To further support us, check out our silly video at References: Kaplan, B. A. & Reed, D. D. (2012). The matching law: A tutorial for practitioners. Behavior Analysis in Practice, 4(2), 15-24. doi: 10.1007/BF03391780 Reed, D. D., Niileksela, C., & Kaplan, B. A. (2013). Behavioral economics: A tutorial for behavior analysts in practice. Behavior Analysis in Practice, 6, 34-54. doi: 10.1007/BF03391790
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#25 - Matching Law in Real-Life Interventions w/ Dr. Brent Kaplan
12/01/2024
#25 - Matching Law in Real-Life Interventions w/ Dr. Brent Kaplan
In this episode, Zach and Caleb discuss using the matching law in real-life interventions with Dr. Brent Kaplan. Check out Dr. Kaplan’s Website to access copies of his publications, try out his behavioral-oriented software, and view other projects he’s working on: To further support us, check out our silly video at . References: Kaplan, B. A. & Reed, D. D. (2012). The matching law: A tutorial for practitioners. Behavior Analysis in Practice, 4(2), 15-24. doi: 10.1007/BF03391780 Reed, D. D., Niileksela, C., & Kaplan, B. A. (2013). Behavioral economics: A tutorial for behavior analysts in practice. Behavior Analysis in Practice, 6, 34-54. doi: 10.1007/BF03391790
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#24 - Using Motivating Operations Like a Pro w/ Dr. Sarah Frampton
11/01/2024
#24 - Using Motivating Operations Like a Pro w/ Dr. Sarah Frampton
In this episode, Zach and Caleb talk with Dr. Sarah Frampton about teaching mands, “deprivation” as an ABA term, indicating responses, interrupting chaining procedures, and the ethics of mand training. Apply to learn from Dr. Frampton and others in the University Nebraska at Omaha ABA master’s program: https://www.unomaha.edu/college-of-arts-and-sciences/psychology/academics/graduate-programs/aba-program/index.php Mand training role play scenario supplemental materials: https://static-content.springer.com/esm/art%3A10.1007%2Fs40617-024-00985-3/MediaObjects/40617_2024_985_MOESM1_ESM.docx To further support us, check out our silly video at www.patreon.com/functionalrelationspodcast. References: Frampton, S. E., Davis, C. R., Meleshkevich, O., & Axe, J. B. (2024). A Clinical Tutorial on Methods to Capture and Contrive Establishing Operations to Teach Mands. Behavior Analysis in Practice, 1-13. Frampton, S. E., Axe, J. B., Davis, C. R., Meleshkevich, O., & Li, M. H. (2024). A tutorial on indicating responses and their importance in mand training. Behavior Analysis in Practice, 1-12. Shafer, E. (1995). A review of interventions to teach a mand repertoire. The Analysis of Verbal Behavior, 12, 53-66.
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#23 - Using Radical Behaviorism to Set and Accomplish Goals w/ Dr. Adithyan "Dithu" Rajaraman - Pt. 2
10/01/2024
#23 - Using Radical Behaviorism to Set and Accomplish Goals w/ Dr. Adithyan "Dithu" Rajaraman - Pt. 2
In Part 2 of a 2 part interview with Dr. Adithyan "Dithu" Rajaraman, Zach and Caleb discuss using radical behaviorism to set and accomplish goals. 1 learning CE is available for this episode. You can purchase it at If you feel that our podcast is a valuable contribution to the field of ABA, please consider supporting us on Patreon at References: Baum, W. M. (2017). Understanding behaviorism: Behavior, culture, and evolution. John Wiley & Sons. Catania, A. C. (1975). The myth of self-reinforcement. Behaviorism, 3(2), 192-199. Peterson, S. M., Aljadeff-Abergel, E., Eldridge, R. R., VanderWeele, N. J., & Acker, N. S. (2021). Conceptualizing self-determination from a behavioral perspective: The role of choice, self-control, and self-management. Journal of Behavioral Education, 30, 299-318. Skinner, B. F. (1984). Selection by consequences. Behavioral and brain sciences, 7(4), 477-481.
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#22 - Using Radical Behaviorism to Set and Accomplish Goals w/ Dr. Adithyan "Dithu" Rajaraman - Pt. 1
09/01/2024
#22 - Using Radical Behaviorism to Set and Accomplish Goals w/ Dr. Adithyan "Dithu" Rajaraman - Pt. 1
In Part 1 of a 2 part interview with Dr. Adithyan "Dithu" Rajaraman, Zach and Caleb discuss using radical behaviorism to set and accomplish goals. 1 learning CE is available for this episode. You can purchase it at If you feel that our podcast is a valuable contribution to the field of ABA, please consider supporting us on Patreon at References: Baum, W. M. (2017). Understanding behaviorism: Behavior, culture, and evolution. John Wiley & Sons. Catania, A. C. (1975). The myth of self-reinforcement. Behaviorism, 3(2), 192-199. Peterson, S. M., Aljadeff-Abergel, E., Eldridge, R. R., VanderWeele, N. J., & Acker, N. S. (2021). Conceptualizing self-determination from a behavioral perspective: The role of choice, self-control, and self-management. Journal of Behavioral Education, 30, 299-318. Skinner, B. F. (1984). Selection by consequences. Behavioral and brain sciences, 7(4), 477-481.
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#21 - Using SPACE to Treat Childhood Anxiety w/ Dr. Shauna Lynne
08/01/2024
#21 - Using SPACE to Treat Childhood Anxiety w/ Dr. Shauna Lynne
In this episode, Zach and Caleb discuss treating childhood anxiety through a parent training program called “SPACE” with Dr. Shauna Lynne. 1 learning CE is available for this episode. You can purchase it at If you feel that our podcast is a valuable contribution to the field of ABA, please consider supporting us on Patreon at Things to check out from the episode: SPACE website - Dr. Shauna’s practice - Our new website - References: Lebowitz, E. R., & Majdick, J. M. (2020). SPACE, Parent-Based Treatment for Childhood and Adolescent Anxiety: Clinical Case Illustration. Journal of Cognitive Psychotherapy, 34(2). Lebowitz, E. R., Marin, C., Martino, A., Shimshoni, Y., & Silverman, W. K. (2020). Parent-based treatment as efficacious as cognitive-behavioral therapy for childhood anxiety: A randomized noninferiority study of supportive parenting for anxious childhood emotions. Journal of the American Academy of Child & Adolescent Psychiatry, 59(3), 362-372. Lebowitz, E. R., Omer, H., Hermes, H., & Scahill, L. (2014). Parent training for childhood anxiety disorders: The SPACE program. Cognitive and behavioral practice, 21(4), 456-469. Rozenblat, S., Shimshoni, Y., Lebowitz, E. R., Perez, M., & Koller, J. (2023). A pilot trial of SPACE (Supportive parenting for anxious childhood emotions) in autism. Child Psychiatry & Human Development, 1-15. Storch, E. A., Guzick, A. G., Ayton, D. M., Palo, A. D., Kook, M., Candelari, A. E., ... & Goodman, W. K. (2024). Randomized trial comparing standard versus light intensity parent training for anxious youth. Behaviour Research and Therapy, 173, 104451.
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New Episode August 1st!
07/23/2024
New Episode August 1st!
On August 1st, 2024, Functional Relations Podcast returns! Zach and Caleb will be back with all new guests and a new website for immediately downloadable CE certificates too! www.functionalrelationspodcast.com
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S3E5 - The Supervisor Experience: Using ABA to Support Trainees w/ Dr. Diana Parry-Cruwys and Dr. Jackie MacDonald
01/28/2022
S3E5 - The Supervisor Experience: Using ABA to Support Trainees w/ Dr. Diana Parry-Cruwys and Dr. Jackie MacDonald
In the fifth episode of Season 3, Zach and Caleb discuss updated fieldwork requirements and recent research on systems for promoting successful fieldwork experiences with Dr. Diana Parry-Cruwys and Dr. Jackie MacDonald. Season 3 of the Functional Relations podcast is titled “The Experience”. Each episode will alternate between the supervisor experience and the trainee experience. 1 supervision learning CE is available for this episode. You can purchase it at If you feel that our podcast is a valuable contribution to the field of ABA, please consider supporting us on Patreon at Things to check out from the episode: BCBA Fieldwork Requirements: Ethics Code for Behavior Analysts: References: Parry-Cruwys, D., Atkinson, R., & MacDonald, J. (2021). Teaching Graduate Students to Identify and Adhere to Practicum Requirements. Behavior Analysis in Practice, 1-10. Parry-Cruwys, D., & MacDonald, J. (2021). Using Gamification to Promote Accurate Data Entry of Practicum Experience Hours in Graduate Students. Behavior Analysis in Practice, 14, 1-10.
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S3E4 - The Student Experience: Understanding Selectionism
09/27/2021
S3E4 - The Student Experience: Understanding Selectionism
In the fourth episode of Season 3, Zach and Caleb have a discussion to help students understand the concept of selectionism. Season 3 of the Functional Relations podcast is titled “The Experience”. Each episode will alternate between the supervisor experience and the student experience.
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S3E3 - The Supervisor Experience: Delivering Thoughtful Feedback w/ Dr. Ellie Kazemi
08/02/2021
S3E3 - The Supervisor Experience: Delivering Thoughtful Feedback w/ Dr. Ellie Kazemi
In the third episode of Season 3, Zach and Caleb discuss ways to thoughtfully deliver feedback that may inspire new performances with Dr. Ellie Kazemi. Season 3 of the Functional Relations podcast is titled “The Experience”. Each episode will alternate between the supervisor experience and the trainee experience.
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S3E2 - The Student Experience: Understanding Determinism
06/18/2021
S3E2 - The Student Experience: Understanding Determinism
In the second episode of Season 3, Zach and Caleb have a discussion to help students understand the concept of determinism. Season 3 of the Functional Relations podcast is titled “The Experience”. Each episode will alternate between the supervisor experience and the student experience.
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