The Martinus Cosmology Podcast
Welcome to the Martinus Cosmology Podcast! This is a podcast dedicated to talks and reflections on life, seen from the perspective of the Danish writer Martinus’ spiritual works. Here, you will find talks on all kinds of topics, relating to the main issues of life and Martinus’ world picture. You can read more about Martinus and his works on the website of the Martinus Institute, Denmark: /http://www.martinus.dk/en/frontpage/
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Episode 53: Near-death experiences and reincarnation
02/08/2024
Episode 53: Near-death experiences and reincarnation
Is consciousness a product of the brain, or is the brain a tool for consciousness? What do people typically experience during near-death experiences and what effect does it have on them? What, if anything, do near-death experiences have in common with other spiritual experiences? Can reincarnation solve the mystery of the apparent injustice of the one-life theory? These are some of the questions taken up in this episode in which Mary McGovern interviews Tobias Anker Stripp and Sören Grind about near-death experiences and reincarnation from the perspective of research into near-death experiences and from the perspective of spiritual science. Tobias Anker Stripp is a medical doctor working in Denmark. He is also a Reiki master and a researcher who has done research into near-death experiences and has been the driving force behind the establishing of a Danish network for people who have had near-death experiences. Sören Grind is a Swedish psychologist, now living in Denmark, and the author of three books based on Martinus’s world picture, the latest of which is entitled “Reincarnation – a loving and logical view of life” (not yet available in English). Links for further information: “Reincarnation gives life meaning”, an article by Sören Grind In: English Kosmos no 1/2024: Dr. Tobias Anker Stripp’s website: Sören Grind’s books in Swedish and Danish: “Through the Gates of Death – Sleep and Death”, an article by Martinus describing how it is to die as a child, a youth, an adult and in old age: “The Immortality of Living Beings” by Martinus International Association for Near-Death Studies, Inc. Pim van Lommel, cardiologist and author of the bestseller “Consciousness Beyond Life” Bruce Greyson, psychiatrist and author of “After - A Doctor Explores What Near-Death Experiences Reveal About Life and Beyond" Recorded in Denmark via Zoom on 7 th February 2024. Music composed and performed by Lars Palerius.
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Episode 52: The World Situation and the Future
12/22/2023
Episode 52: The World Situation and the Future
In this lecture Ole Therkelsen describes how the atrocities of war and the enormous amount of suffering they cause gradually bring about the evolution of the Earth as a living individual and of the mankind that inhabits it. The Earth and its human beings are sphynx beings with a consciousness that is partly dominated by the killing principle and partly by the desire to love and serve everyone. Eventually the loving aspect will take over completely, leading to the creation of a completely loving, empathic and just world society. Ole Therkelsen (born in 1948) is a chemical engineer and a biologist with a life-long interest in Martinus Cosmology. He was introduced to Martinus Cosmology by his parents when he was a small boy, and since 1980 he has given about 2000 lectures on Martinus’s world picture in fifteen countries in six different languages. Many of his lectures may be heard on and on . He is the author of Martinus, Darwin and Intelligent Design – A New Theory of Evolution and Martinus and the New World Morality. His books are available from and . This lecture was given by Ole Therkelsen in Zagreb, Croatia on 1st May 2007. Music composed and performed by Lars Palerius. Photo: Marie Rosenkrantz Gjedsted
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Episode 51: Martinus and Western esotericism
10/17/2023
Episode 51: Martinus and Western esotericism
In this episode Mary McGovern talks to Mikael Krall about his master’s dissertation Martinus’ Spiritual Science: An Original Contribution to Western Esotericism?, which was published as a book in 2019. Krall compares Martinus’ world picture with the worldviews of three other Western esoteric philosophers: Helena Blavatsky, Alice Bailey and Rudolf Steiner. His aim was to see if Martinus contributes anything new to Western esotericism, and if so, what. Krall found that Martinus did indeed make unique and original contributions to Western esotericism. On the structural level, his finding was that Martinus uses logical reasoning to a far greater extent when presenting his worldview than Blavatsky, Steiner and Bailey do in their accounts. This can perhaps fulfil the needs of secularised seekers of truth. On the content level, Martinus’ most important contribution is, according to Krall, a clear, logical and consistent theory of how experience comes about and is eternally maintained. Martinus also describes why memory is an important function of consciousness and how it is related to the body of memory, one of Martinus’ six basic energy bodies, a body not presented by the other three authors. Krall describes this function and body as being of key importance in Martinus’ worldview when he logically explains the process of involution and thereby the eternal renewal and maintenance of consciousness through spiral cycles of evolution. Another important contribution, according to Krall, is Martinus’ analysis of a living microcosmos within us and even within the food we eat. Martinus points to our moral responsibility for the well-being of these microbeings, thus widening the sphere in need of our compassion. Martinus’ analysis of sexual evolution and the transformation of the sexual poles is also seen to contribute to the understanding of consciousness and its developmental levels. Krall’s final conclusion is that Martinus’ spiritual science and world picture is an original contribution to Western esotericism. Mikael Krall is a psychologist and psychotherapist in Gothenburg, Sweden. He is a private researcher and scholar in the field of Western esotericism. Mikael Krall’s book is currently out of print but will be reprinted in 2024. This podcast was recorded by Mary McGovern at The Martinus Institute, Copenhagen on 8th October 2023. Photo: Mary McGovern Music composed and performed by Lars Palerius. Martinus’s literature is available online on the Martinus Institute’s website: Here you can also find information about the international summer courses at the Martinus Centre in Klint, Denmark.
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Episode 50: Martinus Cosmology, logic and the problems of consciousness
08/19/2023
Episode 50: Martinus Cosmology, logic and the problems of consciousness
This episode is produced in collaboration with the Swedish podcast Kosmologipodden. Hosts Micael Söderberg and Mary McGovern interview Nikolaj Pilgaard Petersen about logic, the easy and hard problems of consciousness and about how Martinus’s world picture informs Nikolaj’s views of philosophy, science, materialism and the experience of life. How does Martinus define logic? What does logic have to do with love? Why does consciousness exist at all? Why do we experience anything? Is our brain even necessary? These are some of the questions we take up in this episode. Nikolaj Pilgaard Petersen is a teacher with a PhD in Philosophy and an MSc in history and mathematics. In addition to teaching and communication, he does research work in the field of philosophy; he is the author of several books on philosophical topics for a wide, Danish-speaking audience including “Hvad er virkeligheden mon i virkeligheden?" (What is reality in reality?) (2016) as well as a number of scientific articles. Nikolaj has two YouTube channels: In English: “The Nature of Reality” and in both English and Danish: https://www.youtube.com/@npilgaard/videos. This podcast was recorded by Micael Söderberg and Mary McGovern at The Martinus Centre, Klint on 3rd August 2023. Photos: Bo Edvindsson Music composed and performed by Lars Palerius. Martinus’s literature is available online on the Martinus Institute’s website: Here you can also find information about the international summer courses at the Martinus Centre in Klint, Denmark.
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Episode 49: Martinus: His Life and World Picture
03/19/2023
Episode 49: Martinus: His Life and World Picture
In this episode Mary McGovern interviews Lennart Pasborg, the Danish film director who has recently made a documentary film about the Danish spiritual writer Martinus (1890-1981). His film is entitled “Martinus: His Life and World Picture” (42 mins.) and portrays both Martinus’s ordinary, everyday life and his extraordinary spiritual cosmology. In 1921, at the age of 30, Martinus underwent a series of profound spiritual experiences that — as he himself explains — left him with extraordinary, intuitive sensory abilities. With his 10,000 pages of writing and 100 symbols he contributes to an understanding of the mystery of life and the individual's life and fate, and to the development of a new and peaceful world culture based on tolerance, humaneness and love for all living things. Lennart Pasborg first encountered Martinus’s works in 1984 and immediately wanted to make a film about his world picture. Little did he know at the time that 38 years would pass before he achieved his goal. Lennart’s other works include documentary films on art, music, ballet, spirituality, and on philosophy and children. is a link to the English version of the film. It has an English voiceover and optional English subtitles. And is a link to the Danish version “Martinus – liv og verdensbillede”. Spanish and Swedish subtitles are available. This podcast was recorded by Mary McGovern at The Martinus Institute, Frederiksberg, Copenhagen Denmark on 14thMarch 2023. Music composed and performed by Lars Palerius. Martinus’s literature is available online on the Martinus Institute’s website: Here you can also find information about the international summer courses at the Martinus Centre in Klint, Denmark.
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Episode 48: The Rise of Internationalism
12/15/2022
Episode 48: The Rise of Internationalism
“Internationalism is the unselfishness of a nation, and nationalism is the selfishness or egoism of a nation.” Martinus: The Fate of Mankind, chap. 45 In this lecture Ole Therkelsen points to the inevitability of the development of internationalism, despite all current attempts to hang on to nationalism. He looks at the anatomy of war and the anatomy of peace and asks, “What can we each do to contribute to world peace?” He quotes Martinus as saying that the best thing we can do is to change ourselves – not the others – and turn ourselves into “cells of peace” in the body of the Earth. This involves forgiving our so-called enemies, understanding our fate and seeing the necessity of practising neighbourly love in all aspects of life. Ole Therkelsen (born in 1948) is a chemical engineer and a biologist with a life-long interest in Martinus Cosmology. He was introduced to Martinus Cosmology by his parents when he was a small boy, and since 1980 he has given about 2000 lectures on Martinus’s world picture in fifteen countries in six different languages. Many of his lectures may be heard on and on . He is the author of Martinus, Darwin and Intelligent Design – A New Theory of Evolution and Martinus and the New World Morality. His books are available from and . This lecture was given by Ole Therkelsen at The Martinus Centre, Klint, Denmark on 31st July 2008. Music composed and performed by Lars Palerius. Photo: Marie Rosenkrantz Gjedsted
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Episode 47: Economics – present and future
11/05/2022
Episode 47: Economics – present and future
Martinus’s spiritual world view includes an analysis of the evolution of our current economic system towards a future situation in which the “false business principle” – getting as much as possible as possible for as little as possible – will be replaced by the “true business principle” based on the equal exchange of assets. He envisions a time-based economy to which everyone – with the exception of children, the elderly and the sick – will gladly contribute. With the inevitable growth of neighbourly love and selflessness, no one will want to be a burden on society or earn anything at the expense of others. Mary McGovern interviews Lasse Vogelsang on these themes and on the future of our working lives in a coming international world state. Lasse Vogelsang has a long-standing interest in Martinus Cosmology, having encountered it thirty years ago at the age of seventeen. His professional background is in IT. Economics is one of his interests. This podcast was recorded by Mary McGovern at The Martinus Centre, Klint, Denmark on 20th October 2022. Music composed and performed by Lars Palerius. Martinus’s literature is available online on the Martinus Institute’s website: Here you can also find information about the international summer courses at the Martinus Centre in Klint, Denmark.
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Episode 46: Evidence for the survival of consciousness after bodily death
09/01/2022
Episode 46: Evidence for the survival of consciousness after bodily death
In 2021 Else Byskov submitted an essay entitled “The Best Available Evidence for the Survival of Human Consciousness after Permanent Bodily Death” to an essay competition set up by the Bigelow Institute for Consciousness Studies (). In this interview with Mary McGovern and Micael Söderberg, she presents some of this evidence and covers such topics as near-death experiences, past-life memories in children, regression therapy, the process of rebirth and multiple personality disorder. Else mentions Martinus’s symbol no. 34 about the process of rebirth. See the symbol and its explanation Her essay is available in English from and in Danish from Else Byskov has written and published nine books in English about Martinus Cosmology, including Life After Death in a Nutshell, Fate and Karma in a Nutshell, Reincarnation in a Nutshell (with Maria McMahon), Death is an Illusion and The Art of Attraction. See her website: This podcast was recorded by Mary McGovern and Micael Söderberg at The Martinus Centre, Klint, Denmark on 3rd August 2021 as a collaboration between The Martinus Cosmology Podcast and the Swedish podcast Kosmologipodden. Music composed and performed by Lars Palerius. Martinus’s literature is available online on the Martinus Institute’s website: Here you can also find information about the international summer courses at the Martinus Centre in Klint, Denmark.
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Episode 45: Sleep, dreams and death
02/16/2022
Episode 45: Sleep, dreams and death
Why do we have to sleep? What is sleep? What are dreams? And what is death? These are some of the questions Ole Therkelsen takes up in this lecture. He explains that during sleep our nervous system is repaired. The traffic of our thoughts, which sends electrical currents through our nerves, is temporarily stopped to allow essential repair work to be done. In the meantime our consciousness is moved onto a spiritual plane, where we also experience life. This move to a spiritual plane can be achieved in six different ways: through death, sleep, anesthesia, fainting, deep trance and hypnosis. He explores how the quality of our sleep is determined in part by the quality our thoughts and by our physical habits, such as drinking stimulants and using alarm clocks. He distinguishes between natural fatigue, which can be resolved through rest and sleep, and unnatural fatigue, which can be resolved through changing our way of thinking. Death proves to be the biggest surprise in life because you wake up in a spiritual world where you can continue to experience life. Ole mentions Martinus’s article “Through the Gates of Death – Sleep and Death”, which you will find . Ole Therkelsen (born in 1948) is a chemical engineer and a biologist with a life-long interest in Martinus Cosmology. He was introduced to Martinus Cosmology by his parents when he was a small boy, and since 1980 he has given about 2000 lectures on Martinus’s world picture in fifteen countries in six different languages. Many of his lectures may be heard on and on . He is the author of Martinus, Darwin and Intelligent Design – A New Theory of Evolution and Martinus and the New World Morality. His books are available from and . This lecture was given by Ole Therkelsen at The Martinus Centre, Klint, Denmark on 11th August 2006. Music composed and performed by Lars Palerius. Photo: Berit Djuse
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Episode 44: Understanding Eternity
12/23/2021
Episode 44: Understanding Eternity
Can eternity be understood? Is there a difference between how physical science and spiritual science view eternity? Did life originate at a specific point in time or has it always existed in some form? In this lecture Ole Therkelsen explores the concepts of eternity and temporality from the perspective of Martinus’s world picture. He presents the principle of contrasts and the principle of hunger and satiation, which are key to the experience of eternal life. “If you introduce eternity, life makes sense,” he says. If we had only one life, there would no justice in life whatsoever. Darkness and suffering would have no meaning. Martinus’s analysis of eternity is the backbone of his cosmology and can help one understand that all living beings are part of the same organism and consciousness, the organism and consciousness of God. Ole mentions and symbol no. 100 in this lecture. For a brief description, follow the links. Ole Therkelsen (born in 1948) is a chemical engineer and a biologist with a life-long interest in Martinus Cosmology. He was introduced to Martinus Cosmology by his parents when he was a small boy, and since 1980 he has given about 2000 lectures on Martinus’s world picture in fifteen countries in six different languages. Many of his lectures may be heard on and on . He is the author of Martinus, Darwin and Intelligent Design – A New Theory of Evolution and Martinus and the New World Morality. His books are available from and . This lecture was given by Ole Therkelsen at The Martinus Centre, Klint, Denmark on 28th July 2008. Music composed and performed by Lars Palerius. Photo: Marie Rosenkrantz Gjedsted Martinus’s literature is available online on the . Here you can also find information about the international summer courses at the Martinus Centre in Klint, Denmark.
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Episode 43: How can we see our karma as a friend?
10/21/2021
Episode 43: How can we see our karma as a friend?
Martinus describes karma as the law of cause and effect, as life’s way of helping us to evolve towards becoming truly empathic, loving human beings. In this episode Mary McGovern interviews the Swedish psychologist, writer and lecturer Sören Grind. They discuss the role of both pleasant and unpleasant karma as a motor driving our evolution and as a mirror showing us how we are capable of behaving towards other people, our own organisms, animals and the planet on which we live. They look at the quality or essence of the energies we send out and how we can use an increasingly intimate relationship to God and knowledge of cosmic laws to support us when the going gets tough and to express gratitude when life is pleasant. This podcast was recorded by Mary McGovern at the Martinus Centre, Klint, Denmark on 21st October 2021. Music composed and performed by Lars Palerius. Photo: Marie Rosenkrantz Gjedsted. Martinus’ literature is available online on the Martinus Institute’s website: Here you can also find information about the international summer courses at the Martinus Centre in Klint, Denmark.
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Episode 42: The I – the fixed point in the middle of the universe
09/19/2021
Episode 42: The I – the fixed point in the middle of the universe
In this interview, Anne Külper and Mary McGovern try to approach an understanding of the “I” – the innermost core of our being. It is that something within us that experiences and creates. Martinus describes it as the “fixed point” in a sea of movements, a contrast to the movements that makes experiencing them possible. Having no physical form, it is untouched by life and death; through the principle of reincarnation the I experiences life eternally through ever-changing physical and spiritual forms. You can watch and listen to a more detailed lecture Anne gave on the same subject here: https://www.crowdcast.io/e/2021-07-29-i-the-fixed-point-in-the-middle-of-the-universe Anne Külper is a dancer, choreographer and tai-chi and qigong teacher from Stockholm, Sweden. She is a member of the voluntary teaching staff at the Martinus Centre in Klint, Denmark and also gives regular lectures in Sweden. This podcast was recorded by Mary McGovern at The Martinus Centre, Klint, Denmark on 6th September 2021. Music composed and performed by Lars Palerius. Martinus’s literature is available online on the Martinus Institute’s website: Here you can also find information about the international summer courses at the Martinus Centre in Klint, Denmark. Photo: Marie Rosenkrantz Gjedsted
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Episode 41: Life after Death
06/13/2021
Episode 41: Life after Death
Is there life after death and, if so, what is it like? Mary McGovern interviews author Else Byskov about her understanding that there certainly is a life after death, that death is an illusion and that we experience many lives through reincarnation. She gives us a hint of a world of extraordinary beauty beyond the physical world in the hope of preparing us for what is to come. For further reading see the free online version of Martinus’s book “The Principle of Reincarnation”: . Else Byskov has written and published nine books in English about Martinus Cosmology, including Life After Death in a Nutshell, Fate and Karma in a Nutshell, Reincarnation in a Nutshell (with Maria McMahon), Death is an Illusion and The Art of Attraction. Some of her books are also available in Danish, German and Spanish. See her website: This podcast was recorded by Mary McGovern at The Martinus Centre, Klint, Denmark on 7th June 2021. Music composed and performed by Lars Palerius. Martinus’s literature is available online on the Martinus Institute’s website: Here you can also find information about the international summer courses at the Martinus Centre in Klint, Denmark.
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Episode 40: The Cosmology, the Institute and the Centre
04/12/2021
Episode 40: The Cosmology, the Institute and the Centre
The Martinus Cosmology Podcast presents the fifth in a series of lectures given in English by Ole Therkelsen. Ole Therkelsen describes the transformational spiritual experience that Martinus had 100 years ago on 24th March 1921 that enabled him to experience the laws and principles of life. This formed the basis of his authorship of Livets Bog (The Book of Life) and many other works. His world picture was not in the absolute sense “his”. It is an eternal world picture to which his consciousness opened up. He said that he “gained access to the ocean of knowledge”. He also created the Martinus Institute as the administrative centre of his work and the Martinus Centre in Klint, Denmark as an education centre for courses. He predicted that the centre would one day become a university for the study of the world picture he described. Ole described the guidelines set out by Martinus for how co-workers at the Institute and the Centre should cooperate in a harmonious and friendly way. Ole Therkelsen (born in 1948) is a chemical engineer and a biologist with a life-long interest in Martinus Cosmology. He was introduced to Martinus Cosmology by his parents when he was a small boy, and since 1980 he has given about 2000 lectures on Martinus’s world picture in fifteen countries in six different languages. Many of his lectures may be heard on and on . He is the author of Martinus, Darwin and Intelligent Design – A New Theory of Evolution and Martinus and the New World Morality. His books are available from and . This lecture was given by Ole Therkelsen at The Martinus Centre, Klint, Denmark on 29th July August 2006. Music composed and performed by Lars Palerius. Photo: Berit Djuse. Martinus’s literature is available online on the . Here you can also find information about the international summer courses at the Martinus Centre in Klint, Denmark
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Episode 39: Martinus as a World Teacher
01/30/2021
Episode 39: Martinus as a World Teacher
The Martinus Cosmology Podcast presents the fourth in a series of lectures given in English by Ole Therkelsen. To launch our celebrations of the 100th anniversary of Martinus’s experience of cosmic consciousness on 24th March 1921 we present this lecture in which Ole Therkelsen describes Martinus’s process of initiation and the opening of his talents for cosmic consciousness. It was this opening that paved the way for Martinus writing his works, which, towards the end of his life, he decided should be collectively entitled “The Third Testament”. Many religious and spiritual communities around the world have waited and are still waiting for the return of the messiah, the second coming of Christ. Krishnamurti, for example, was groomed to be the new world teacher until he himself rejected the role. According to Martinus, this second coming is nothing less than the birth of cosmic consciousness in each and every single one of us. This demands moral growth to a standard where we, like Christ, can love our enemies and forgive all those that hurt us. To support this moral growth, Martinus has provided us with a spiritual science – a science that analyses the eternal and the temporal, the macrocosmic and the microcosmic, God and the individual living being. He humorously expressed his intention as being “to show that it pays to be good”. Ole mentions a sculpture of Christ by Bertel Thorvaldsen, a Danish sculptor. Here is a photo of it from the Church of Our Lady in Copenhagen. (Photo: Wikipedia) Ole mentions Martinus’s symbol no. 23 “The Finished Human Being in God’s Likeness” in this lecture. You can see the symbol and read a short explanation on the . The symbol is explained in detail in The Eternal World Picture, vol. 2 by Martinus: https://www.martinus.dk/en/ttt/index.php?bog=62&stk=23&pkt=5. Ole Therkelsen (born in 1948) is a chemical engineer and a biologist with a life-long interest in Martinus Cosmology. He was introduced to Martinus Cosmology by his parents when he was a small boy, and since 1980 he has given about 2000 lectures on Martinus’s world picture in fifteen countries in six different languages. Many of his lectures may be heard on and on . He is the author of Martinus, Darwin and Intelligent Design – A New Theory of Evolution and Martinus and the New World Morality. His books are available from and . This lecture was given by Ole Therkelsen at The Martinus Centre, Klint, Denmark on 8th August 2007. Music composed and performed by Lars Palerius. Photo: Berit Djuse. Martinus’s literature is available online on the . Here you can also find information about the international summer courses at the Martinus Centre in Klint, Denmark
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Episode 38: A near-death experience – a personal view
11/16/2020
Episode 38: A near-death experience – a personal view
At the age of six, Andreas Skovby Hansen almost drowned after falling into the water from a jetty where his parents’ boat was moored. In this interview with Mary McGovern he describes a near-death experience he had while sitting on the seabed, an experience that he re-experienced 13 years later at the age of 19. Andreas talks about this and other paranormal experiences he has had and about how Martinus Cosmology has provided a framework to help him understand and find meaning in the trials and tribulations of daily life. Andreas Skovby Hansen (born in 1978) is a part-time schoolteacher and a student of didactics at Aarhus University, Denmark. This podcast was recorded by Mary McGovern on 15th November 2020 at the Martinus Institute, Copenhagen, Denmark Music composed and performed by Lars Palerius. Photo: Mary McGovern Martinus’s literature is available online on the . Here you can also find information about the international summer courses at the Martinus Centre in Klint, Denmark. Martinus’s books can be purchased here: https://shop.martinus.dk/en/english-books-10/
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Episode 37: My will and God’s will
10/02/2020
Episode 37: My will and God’s will
The Martinus Cosmology Podcast presents the third in a series of lectures given in English by Ole Therkelsen. In “My will and God’s will” Ole Therkelsen poses the question: What or who do you think God is? There are many differing concepts of God. Some believe in the devil as the cause of everything unpleasant and in God as the cause of everything pleasant. Martinus, however, defines God as absolutely everything that exists. He further defines two types of communication with God: the telepathic form that we normally call prayer and the physical form, which is our daily encounter with life in all its aspects. He looks at the idea of free will and the evolution of prayer from the animal’s cry of fear to the highly evolved human being’s well formulated communication. Ole mentions Martinus’s symbol no. 16 “The Eternal Body” in this lecture. You can see the symbol and read a short explanation on the . The symbol is explained in detail in by Martinus. Ole Therkelsen (born in 1948) is a chemical engineer and a biologist with a life-long interest in Martinus Cosmology. He was introduced to Martinus Cosmology by his parents when he was a small boy, and since 1980 he has given about 2000 lectures on Martinus’s world picture in fifteen countries in six different languages. Many of his lectures may be heard on and on . He is the author of Martinus, Darwin and Intelligent Design – A New Theory of Evolution and Martinus and the New World Morality. His books are available from and . This lecture was given by Ole Therkelsen at The Martinus Centre, Klint, Denmark on 3rd August 2005. Music composed and performed by Lars Palerius. Photo: Berit Djuse. Martinus’s literature is available online on the . Here you can also find information about the international summer courses at the Martinus Centre in Klint, Denmark
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Episode 36: Hilma af Klint – Painting the Invisible
08/03/2020
Episode 36: Hilma af Klint – Painting the Invisible
The Swedish pioneer of abstract painting Hilma af Klint (1862-1944) has attracted much attention during the last few years as her works have been exhibited in major galleries around the world. Her paintings can be seen as visual representations of spiritual realities beyond the physical. She was influenced by scientific discoveries of her time, such as radio waves and X-rays, both of which exist but are unseen, and the spiritual teachings of theosophy (Helena Blavatsky) and Rudolf Steiner. A copy of Martinus’s Livets Bog (The Book of Life), vol. 1 was found among her possessions after her death. The film director Halina Dyrschka guested the Martinus Centre in Klint in July 2020 to give a talk about her film “Beyond the Visible – Hilma af Klint”. In this podcast, Mary McGovern interviews her about Hilma af Klint’s life and work and the striking similarities between some of her paintings and Martinus’s symbols. Halina Dyrschka studied acting, classical singing and film production before making her debut as a film director. Her film “Beyond the Visible – Hilma af Klint” has won many accolades including being voted one of the best films of 2020 by the New York Times. www.ambrosiafilm.de You can see Martinus’s 100 symbols : Many of them are explained in detail in This podcast was recorded by Mary McGovern at the Martinus Centre, Klint, Denmark on 24th July 2020. Photos: Courtesy of Halina Dyrschka. Music composed and performed by Lars Palerius. Martinus’s literature is available online on the Here you can also find information about the international summer courses at the Martinus Centre in Klint, Denmark
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Episode 35: Who is it that actually reincarnates?
07/06/2020
Episode 35: Who is it that actually reincarnates?
Episode 35: Who is it that actually reincarnates? “Who is it that actually reincarnates?”, “Why do we reincarnate?” and “How do we reincarnate?” are among the questions taken up in this episode in which Mary McGovern interviews Alex Riel. They discuss characteristics of our consciousness, “talent kernels” in which our abilities are stored, the principle of karma and the transformation of the sexual poles. Many claim that we must be able to change sex from one life to the next. Martinus presents arguments for the opposite, but states that this change occurs in a much greater time perspective – from one cycle of evolution to the next. They investigate the one-life theory and the idea of reincarnation as bases for our philosophy of life. Alex Riel has a master’s degree in philosophy from the University of Copenhagen, where he also trained to be a psychology teacher. He is also a trained social worker and the author of six books on the philosophy of life. He is a member of the voluntary teaching staff at the Martinus Centre, Klint and the Martinus Institute, Copenhagen. For additional material, you may like to read Martinus’s explanation of Symbol no. 6, The Living Being: Music composed and performed by Lars Palerius.
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Episode 34: Our personal relationship to God
06/04/2020
Episode 34: Our personal relationship to God
How do you describe your own personal relationship to God? In this episode, Anne Külper, Anne Pullar and Pernilla Rosell share personal reflections about their relationships to God and how they experience God. They talk about their different spiritual paths in life and relate their experiences to Martinus' world picture. Anne Külper, Anne Pullar and Pernilla Rosell are all members of the teaching staff at the Martinus Centre in Klint, Denmark. This podcast was recorded by Pernilla Rosell in Ekerö, Stockholm, on 29th May 2020. Music composed and performed by Lars Palerius. Martinus’s literature is available online on the Martinus Institute’s website:
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Episode 33: Journey into the Microcosmos
03/27/2020
Episode 33: Journey into the Microcosmos
The Martinus Cosmology Podcast presents the second in a series of lectures given in English by Ole Therkelsen. In “Journey into the Microcosmos”, Ole Therkelsen describes how our behaviour affects the entire universe of microlife that inhabits our bodies. The Old Testament and the New Testament encourage the development of neighbourly love in the form of love for other human beings. One of the major tasks of The Third Testament is to expand this idea of neighbourly love to include the microbeings within us, whose life and well-being are dependent on what we eat and drink, what we think and feel, how well we sleep and how we treat our corpses after death. He talks about the law of karma and the law of attraction and repulsion and their connection to genes, chromosomes and congenital disorders. Gratitude for one’s fate – however pleasant or unpleasant – is shown to be a natural consequence of initiation into the macrocosmos, mesocosmos and microcosmos and an important factor on our journey towards gaining cosmic consciousness. Ole explains Martinus’s symbol no. 7 “The Principle of Life Units” in this lecture. You can see the symbol and read a short explanation here: The symbol is explained in detail in The Eternal World Picture, vol. 1 () and in The Ideal Food () by Martinus. Ole Therkelsen (born in 1948) is a chemical engineer and a biologist with a life-long interest in Martinus Cosmology. He was introduced to Martinus Cosmology by his parents when he was a small boy, and since 1980 he has given about 2000 lectures on Martinus’s world picture in fifteen countries in six different languages. Many of his lectures may be heard on and on . He is the author of Martinus, Darwin and Intelligent Design – A New Theory of Evolution and Martinus and the New World Morality. His books are available from and . This lecture was given by Ole Therkelsen at The Martinus Centre, Klint, Denmark on 4th August 2004. Music composed and performed by Lars Palerius. Photo: Berit Djuse. Martinus’s literature is available online on the Martinus Institute’s website: Here you can also find information about the international summer courses at the Martinus Centre in Klint, Denmark
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Episode 32: Two Kinds of Love
02/09/2020
Episode 32: Two Kinds of Love
In this interview with Mary McGovern Micael Söderberg reflects on existential questions about eternity, infinity and the meaning of our lives and on various aspects of what Martinus terms the sexual pole transformation of mankind. Micael Söderberg is a sociologist, one of the team of creators and hosts of the Swedish podcast on Martinus Cosmology kosmologipodden.se and a member of the voluntary teaching staff at the Martinus Centre, Klint, Denmark. If you would like to read more about this topic, we can recommend The Third Testament – Livets Bog (The Book of Life), vol. 5: This podcast was recorded by Mary McGovern at Stiftelsen Martinus Kosmologi, Stockholm, Sweden on 30th December 2019. Music composed and performed by Lars Palerius. Martinus’s literature is available online on the Martinus Institute’s website: Here you can also find information about the international summer courses at the Martinus Centre in Klint, Denmark
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Episode 31: The Road towards the Light
01/04/2020
Episode 31: The Road towards the Light
The Martinus Cosmology Podcast presents the first in a series of lectures given in English by Ole Therkelsen. In “The Road towards the Light” Ole Therkelsen describes some of the core principles and laws of life that are central to Martinus’s world picture. This world picture is eternal, even though we experience our daily lives from a temporal perspective. Life can be viewed in two perspectives: the eternal perspective and the temporal perspective. Confusion can arise when we fail to acknowledge both perspectives. War, illness and all forms of suffering are of course very unpleasant, but from an eternal perspective these things, like everything else, are “very good”. “Behold, everything is very good”, the Bible states. This is not a cynical view, but an explanation of the role of darkness. All darkness forms the contrast that is essential to our ability to experience light at all. The principle of contrast is an eternal principle, as is the principle of cycles and the principle of hunger and satiation, which drives us away from what we are tired of and towards what we are longing for. This lecture can support us in our attempts to understand the “direct speech of life” and to regain our long-lost consciousness of eternity. Ole explains Martinus’s symbol no. 4 “The Road towards Light” in this lecture. You can see the symbol and read a short explanation here: The symbol is explained in detail in The Eternal World Picture, vol. 1 () and Livets Bog (The Book of Life), vol. 1 (), both by Martinus. Ole Therkelsen (born in 1948) is a chemical engineer and a biologist with a life-long interest in Martinus Cosmology. He was introduced to Martinus Cosmology by his parents when he was a small boy, and since 1980 he has given about 2000 lectures on Martinus’s world picture in fifteen countries in six different languages. Many of his lectures may be heard on and on . He is the author of Martinus, Darwin and Intelligent Design – A New Theory of Evolution and Martinus and the New World Morality. His books are available from and . This lecture was given by Ole Therkelsen at The Martinus Centre, Klint, Denmark on 27th July 2004. Music composed and performed by Lars Palerius. Photo: Berit Djuse. Martinus’s literature is available online on the Martinus Institute’s website: Here you can also find information about the international summer courses at the Martinus Centre in Klint, Denmark
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Episode 30: The World Today and in the Future
12/22/2019
Episode 30: The World Today and in the Future
A sphynx-like mix of brutality and love, selfishness and selflessness, mankind is constantly evolving – ultimately towards a totally loving state. Unfinished and incomplete, this process is reflected in the current world situation, where we see both our negative tendencies and our positive ones. The news is full of stories of war, terror, crime, natural catastrophies, political unrest and financial imbalance. At the same time, we see many positive tendencies that take the evolution of the Earth in a more humane direction within many diverse areas of society, whether it be humane prison reform, new ways of building businesses, the humane treatment of animals, ways of dealing with climate change or the dawning of ideas about how to reorganise the world’s financial structure. In this interview with Mary McGovern, Solveig Langkilde takes a snapshot of the current situation. A lecturer and teacher of Martinus Cosmology for over 30 years and a member of the voluntary teaching staff at the Martinus Centre, Klint, Solveig Langkilde has studied Martinus Cosmology since she was introduced to his works by her parents when she was 17 years old. She has run workshops and given many lectures in Denmark, Sweden and Norway. This podcast was recorded by Mary McGovern at The Martinus Institute, Copenhagen, Denmark on 30th November 2019. Music composed and performed by Lars Palerius. Martinus’ literature is available online on the Martinus Institute’s website: Here you can also find information about the international summer courses at the Martinus Centre in Klint, Denmark
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Episode 29: “The Christmas Gospel” – a new publication
11/29/2019
Episode 29: “The Christmas Gospel” – a new publication
Mary McGovern interviews translator Anton Jarrod about his first translation of a book by Martinus – “The Christmas Gospel”. It will be published for the first time in English on 10th December. When Martinus gives his lecture on “The Christmas Gospel” on 10th December 1944, the world is still in the darkness of war and largely unaware of its most abhorrent horrors. But its end is approaching and there is a glimmer of light. And it is this light in the darkness that is perhaps the very subject of Martinus’s cosmic retelling of the nativity. For him, the gospels reveal and symbolise a fundamental fact about the evolution of cosmic consciousness – that it is born or emerges in the terrestrial human being, living in the darkness of the animal kingdom. The cosmic story of the living being’s evolution and the various aspects of life that relate to it are also seen to be told through the nativity narrative. The virgin birth, the persecution by Herod, the gifts of the three holy kings, and the message of peace and good will as told in the gospels reveal as much about the evolution of society, of science and art, of sexual pole transformation and sexual development as they do about the life of Jesus. And it is this hidden, deeper layer of meaning that Martinus presents to his readers in a fascinating little book that is now available in English, from 10th December 2019, exactly 75 years since Martinus gave the lecture that forms the basis of this book, which he published in Contact Letters during 1945-46. During our own troubled times, reading The Christmas Gospel may throw some warm light this winter. 128 pages, price 55 DKK incl. Danish tax, 44 DKK excl. tax (approx. £5, US$6.50. €6 plus postage). Available from shop.martinus.dk from 10th December. Anton Jarrod is a writer and researcher currently living in London and Cambridge, UK. He writes and speaks about modern spirituality. He is also the author of “Martinus Cosmology and Spiritual Evolution” – a book about the work of Martinus, whom he describes as “one of modern spirituality’s still undiscovered gems.” This podcast was recorded by Mary McGovern in Frederiksberg, Copenhagen, Denmark on 30th September 2019. Music composed and performed by Lars Palerius. Martinus’ literature is available online on the Martinus Institute’s website: Here you can also find information about the international summer courses at the Martinus Centre in Klint, Denmark.
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Episode 28: Death and the Continuity of Consciousness
10/06/2019
Episode 28: Death and the Continuity of Consciousness
What is death? What happens when we die? Is there life after death? If so, what can we expect when we leave our physical bodies? Materialistic science deems reincarnation improbable, but recent research into so-called "near-death experiences", which have been seen to occur when people who are clinically dead are resuscitated, questions this view and points to a continuity of consciousness after the death of the physical body – a view shared by Martinus. In this podcast Mary McGovern interviews Jens Christian Hermansen about Martinus's view of death, life after death and reincarnation – an optimistic and non-materialistic view that may allay the fears many have about death. As the sun sets on our physical life, he writes, it rises on a very real life on the spiritual planes, where our inner thoughts form our outer world. He compares death to sleep; they are parts of the same principle. Jens Christian Hermansen is a sociologist and a former researcher at the University of Copenhagen. He is the editor-in-chief of the Martinus Institute's magazine KOSMOS and is also involved in teaching, making videos and organising conferences about Martinus Cosmology. If you would like to read more about this topic, we can recommend the article "Beyond the Fear of Death" by Martinus: This podcast was recorded by Mary McGovern at The Martinus Institute, Frederiksberg, Copenhagen, Denmark on 24th September 2019. Music composed and performed by Lars Palerius. Photo: Marie Rosenkrantz Gjedsted Martinus’ literature is available online on the Martinus Institute’s website: Here you can also find information about the international summer courses at the Martinus Centre in Klint, Denmark
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Episode 27: Reincarnation in a Nutshell
08/25/2019
Episode 27: Reincarnation in a Nutshell
Is there any truth in the one-life theory? Or is reincarnation more plausible? And, if so, how does it work? Can consciousness exist when the physical body is clinically dead? How can we explain so-called near-death experiences? And what about people who claim to remember previous lives? In this podcast Mary McGovern interviews author Else Byskov about her claim that death is an illusion and that consciousness cannot be extinguished. They look at the evidence for reincarnation and phenomena such as child prodigies and extraordinary talents. Else Byskov hopes that insight into the evidence for reincarnation will help remove any fear of death we may have and convince us of our immortality. For further reading see the free online version of Martinus's book "The Principle of Reincarnation": . Else Byskov has written and published seven books in English about Martinus Cosmology, including Reincarnation in a Nutshell (with Maria McMahon), Death is an Illusion and The Art of Attraction. Some of her books are also available in Danish, German and Spanish. See her website: This podcast was recorded by Mary McGovern at The Martinus Centre, Klint, Denmark on 9th August 2019. Music composed and performed by Lars Palerius. Martinus’s literature is available online on the Martinus Institute’s website: Here you can also find information about the international summer courses at the Martinus Centre in Klint, Denmark.
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Episode 26: Conscience
08/06/2019
Episode 26: Conscience
What do we understand by "conscience"? We have all had experiences of having a guilty conscience and a clear conscience. We see that our conscience is connected to our varying ideas about good and evil, so that an action that would give one person a guilty conscience would not bother another. Conscience, according to Martinus, is one of the factors that transform animals into truly humane human beings. It evolves from incarnation to incarnation and regulates what we have the heart to do to others. It becomes an "inner voice" that helps us to live up to our changing ideals. Mary McGovern interviews Karin Jansson on the evolution of our conscience, the difference between "shame", "sin" and a "guilty conscience" and on how our ideals becomes "pillars of light" guiding us towards higher states of consciousness and creativity. If you would like to read what Martinus himself writes about conscience, here is a link to his article entitled "Conscience": An experienced lecturer and teacher of Martinus Cosmology and a member of the voluntary teaching staff at the Martinus Centre, Klint, Karin Jansson is also a journalist, the editor of the Swedish magazine Odlaren (The Grower) and one of the founders of a school in Holma, Sweden that runs courses on permaculture, among other things. This podcast was recorded by Mary McGovern at The Martinus Centre, Klint, Denmark on 2nd August 2019. Music composed and performed by Lars Palerius. Martinus’ literature is available online on the Martinus Institute’s website: The Martinus Institute. Here you can also find information about the international summer courses at the Martinus Centre in Klint, Denmark
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Episode 25: Sustainability, Society and the Intelligence of Nature
05/20/2019
Episode 25: Sustainability, Society and the Intelligence of Nature
Why are there so many conflicts in society today? Why are phenomena such as poverty and pollution such pressing issues? Can they be solved? Where is human evolution heading? Mary McGovern interviews Karin Jansson on these and other issues such as the intelligence of Nature, cycles and recycling, the reorganisation of agriculture so as to be in harmony with Nature and the ideal cooperation between people that will render these changes possible. An experienced lecturer and teacher of Martinus Cosmology and a member of the voluntary teaching staff at the Martinus Centre, Klint, Karin Jansson is also a journalist, the editor of the Swedish magazine Odlaren (The Grower) and one of the founders of a school in Holma, Sweden that runs courses on permaculture, among other things. This podcast was recorded by Mary McGovern at The Martinus Centre, Klint, Denmark on 5th May 2019. Music composed and performed by Lars Palerius. Martinus’ literature is available online on the Martinus Institute’s website: The Martinus Institute. Here you can also find information about the international summer courses at the Martinus Centre in Klint, Denmark
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Episode 24: Cosmological Perspectives on World History
04/29/2019
Episode 24: Cosmological Perspectives on World History
In this episode Mary McGovern interviews Lauge Schøler on how an understanding of Martinus Cosmology can shed light on our understanding of world history and on how it can help us to see everything, including evolution, warfare and karma, in a new perspective. Lauge was born in Denmark in 1987 and has studied Martinus Cosmology for the last ten years. He is a psychologist, living and working in Copenhagen. This podcast was recorded by Mary McGovern at The Martinus Centre, Klint, Denmark on 17th April 2019. Music composed and performed by Lars Palerius. Martinus’ literature is available online on the Martinus Institute’s website: Here you can also find information about the international summer courses at the Martinus Centre in Klint, Denmark.
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