Mike & Matt Are White & Black
Two friends from different backgrounds who discuss political, current news, and other topics from their individual perspectives. As we have found, we agree on much more than we might have thought if we hadn't taken the time to listen to each other with respect and empathy from the beginning.
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Episode 025 - The One When Mike Called In to the Show
01/17/2021
Episode 025 - The One When Mike Called In to the Show
Our recording session was longer, but here is a small bit to keep all of our loyal listeners going. Matt got a little worked up again and some of his words had to be blipped. You'll hear Mike say, "No one's trying to take your land." You'll hear Matt say, "We are above the shenanigans of violence." We're not sure when we will stop talking about January 6, 2021. But, it is on all of our minds, isn't it?
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Episode 024 - The One When It All Went To Sh**
01/08/2021
Episode 024 - The One When It All Went To Sh**
We know what you're thinking...and you're right. We did skip number 23. That episode has not been released. This one jumped the gun. Everyone has been so eager for 2020 to be over. We all looked back on the year and thought, "Man...that year sucked. It can surely never be as bad as that last year was." January 6th, 2021 said, "Hold my beer." There is just so much SMH to go over. SMH. SMH. SMH. Our message to everyone trying to justify or say what happened didn't happen: "Stop it. Just stop it." You'll hear Matt say, "By definition, a riot is violent." You'll hear Mike say, "This isn't a Target, right? This was at the State Capitol." Do you not like what we say about this? Now is your time to really let us have it.
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Episode 022 - The One About Bathrooms
12/13/2020
Episode 022 - The One About Bathrooms
We were having a discussion about Matt's bathroom hangups while we were recording and we felt it was important to let you all hear it. You are welcome. Then we fade in and out of a discussion about what is or is not respectful while the National Anthem or the Pledge of Allegiance is happening. Part of the first part relates to whether the Star Spangled Banner is appropriate as the national anthem. That and Traditions. What are traditions? Are they necessary? Are they important? Are there any good traditions? You'll hear Matt say, "I was not a fan of it all, you know what I mean?" You'll hear Mike say, "Start a new tradition - a tradition of growth...learning."
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Episode 021 - The One Where We Make Mike Tyson Mad
12/10/2020
Episode 021 - The One Where We Make Mike Tyson Mad
Matt really was not wanting to talk more about coronavirus but Mike managed to get Matt into more discussion. To be fair, it's all that is in the news. First, though, we will briefly talk about election fraud and aliens. We are not saying the two are related, but the discussions do take place back-to-back. Thankfully, it allows us to mention the monoliths again. The COVID-19 vaccine is set to be approved and released (as of the time of this episodes release) in the next two days for the United States. It is already being distributed in the United Kingdom. You'll hear Mike say, "I have a golden doodle just like yours." You'll hear Matt say, "I'm just going to bring up a whole bunch of different alien references to different movies."
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Episode 020 - The One When We Learn About Molossia
12/05/2020
Episode 020 - The One When We Learn About Molossia
That text alert is not your phone. It was a longer period of time than we wanted to have since our last recording. What with Thanksgiving and then some logistical challenges we had the week after, we were having difficulty getting together for a recording session. Monoliths, Commercials and Masks (again). The mystery of the monolith is a wonderful break from the awful of 2020. Do you like how Mike was caught off guard by the start of our theme song? Aliens or artists? Or alien artists? We talk a little about the Thanksgiving celebrations we had in each our separate homes in complete compliance with the wishes of the Governor. After another brief coronavirus discussion, we plan a future getaway to the foreign, independent, sovereign country of the Republic of Molossia...fully surrounded by the State of Nevada. You'll hear Matt say, "Cause it looks like a knight from a chess set...or it's a dead horse." You'll hear Mike say, "So, if he's an extreme sports guy, I'm pretty sure he rides motorcycles through the desert and messes it up."
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Episode 019 - The One With a Mandate (or Two)
11/26/2020
Episode 019 - The One With a Mandate (or Two)
We wanted to follow up on a couple of topics that we just talked about the last couple of weeks. There are updates with new shutdowns and GSA ascertainment for Joe Biden. We also briefly- and very briefly - touch on Kenosha, Wisconsin, particularly in regards to Kenosha Kyle, who was just released from jail on bond. But mostly...it's Thanksgiving week. We want everyone to be able to look through or around the crazy and the anger and the fighting and the division. Find the reasons to be grateful because they are all around you - regardless of the crazy. You'll hear Mike say, "Listen pillow, if I do something that the world sees as bad, are you gonna bail me out?" You'll hear Matt say, "We turned the entire county into a giant HOA."
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Episode 018 - The One When Matt Doesn't Know India
11/23/2020
Episode 018 - The One When Matt Doesn't Know India
The article is "Immunity to the Coronavirus May Last Years, New Data Hint" from the New York Times, by Apoorva Mandavilli on November 17, 2020. COVID-19 hasn't gone anywhere. And neither have a lot of the questions that a lot of people have - including Mike & Matt. Ultimately, we acknowledge, however, that whatever the restrictions or capricious rules may be, we need to do our best to respect one another and help each other get to the other side of this particular storm. The storm called corona. You'll hear Matt say, "They just want to stay in business and sell you their wares..." You'll hear Mike say, "You dirty germ!"
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Episode 017 - The One With New Sound Effects
11/19/2020
Episode 017 - The One With New Sound Effects
Mike had a question about some Disney movies and Matt knew the answers. But after that got out of the way, we had a discussion about the status of the 2020 Presidential election. It gets a little wonky with details of how the process works, but we hope you find it informative. Then we will take some turns ranting about the state of our public discourse. You'll hear Mike say, "You selecting me as President of the United States means nothing." You'll hear Matt say, "Don't ask me when Aristocats came out - I don't know that."
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Episode 016 - The One That Starts A New Movement
11/13/2020
Episode 016 - The One That Starts A New Movement
Hopefully you are getting the pun in our title as we discuss social media. Its benefits. And its pitfalls. Why does everyone only post the wonderful about their lives? Trying times happen, too. We're not sure how our suggestion for a new social media trend would go over, but it would be...eye-opening. We are not social media experts. We didn't invite a social media expert on our show this night. But we use it and we see how it affects us and those around us. Is social media in and of itself a bad thing? Absolutely not. But how it is used in our lives is what determines what type of effect it has on us. Either we let social media control our lives, or we let our lives control social media. You'll hear Matt say, "Holy mother of pearl!" You'll hear Mike say, "If you don't think a relationship is work, you're an idiot."
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Episode 015 - The One When Everyone Voted
11/05/2020
Episode 015 - The One When Everyone Voted
Even though we don't have a live broadcast, we figured we would chat while we watched some election returns flow in. We didn't get to call a winner. And...as of the time this is being published the next night, there still isn't a winner. We discuss whether our lives are about to drastically change for the better or the worse based on the election results. We also discuss the horrid level of division among our fellow citizens of the United States of America. Our state don't feel too united in this moment. You'll hear Mike say, "You have snacks...you can look like me sitting here." You'll hear Matt say, "And you can see the blurred me in the background." Can you pick out the two intentional references to songs?
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Episode 014 - The One About White Privilege
11/02/2020
Episode 014 - The One About White Privilege
Let's figure out what white privilege is. Does it even exist? Is it important to really understand, if it does exist? The conversation is difficult. And yet, we all managed to remain friends by the end. We had a great special guest, Ben Franke. We take the opportunity to award him or "Pop Bang" popper that was promised for our first subscriber - for which Ben has been assumed. (Was it due to his white privilege?) You'll hear Matt say, "Two young white guys in suits." You'll hear Mike say, "Can I have just one cookie, please?" You'll hear Ben say, "It's the violin of the orchestra." We hope you enjoy our discussion on this topic that can be difficult to talk about.
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Episode 013 - The One That's All About Mike
10/26/2020
Episode 013 - The One That's All About Mike
"Come in...and know Mike better, man!" As more people start to listen to our podcast, we thought it might be helpful for you all to know a little more about each of us. In Episode 13, it's Mike's turn. Matt will pretend like he is an interviewer and help us get to know Mike better. You will hear Mike say, "Let's get out of this craziness going on." You will hear Matt say, "The doctors actually told Dana not to expect you to survive the weekend."
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Episode 012 - The One That Makes That Change
10/23/2020
Episode 012 - The One That Makes That Change
Look...we both are Michael Jackson fans. We can't really apologize for it. We embrace it. We decided to continue some discussion about conspiracy theories and thought it would be fun to at a very current one. Who is right? Who is wrong? Will it have any effect on the 2020 election? Will it have any effect on our lives? Aren't conspiracy theories fun? Some of them lead to crazy actions on all sides. We are less than 2 weeks away from election day and in our current climate it is likely to only get more crazy. And is it worth it? Will our lives come to a screeching halt if one wins over the other? Listen to see if Mike announces his candidacy for President of the United States. You'll hear Matt say, "Bigfoot? You know he's real." You'll hear Mike say, "I need everyone to chill...out!"
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Episode 011 - The One Where John Titor Visits
10/19/2020
Episode 011 - The One Where John Titor Visits
Thank you so much. We are publishing our 11th episode. We are so grateful for those of you listening regularly and sharing us with others. We appreciate your hanging with us as we are working out some technical bugs, as well as content and production issues. Reminder - please let us know what sort of topics you would like to hear us discuss. Our hope is that we can be that outlet for you for difficult (or strange) topics - particularly as they may relate to differences that may be observed based on some cultural and skin color differences. And maybe John Titor didn't actually stop by, but it was a fun, brief discussion. We cover another cancellation, since it came up in the news the day after we recorded our previous episode discussing cancellations. Then we will talk a little about some politically correct language. Who determines what words are mean or no longer can be used? If a word or phrase has been around for centuries, then should it be changed and made to be a "bad word?" Somehow, that will transition to a brief tangent on politicians, in general. You'll hear Mike say, "Man...it has to be real. Pass me those chips!" You'll hear Matt say, "They have a direct flight to Area 51." Thank you so much!
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Episode 010 - The One Where We Speak Spanish
10/16/2020
Episode 010 - The One Where We Speak Spanish
To start off, we introduce our slow version of the theme song. Rosa, the cleaning service representative, shows up while we are recording. So we say hello to her. You will also get a little bit of Mike's back story and his Rip Van Winkle experience. Cancellations. They are happening all the time. Is it okay? Can people really change? Is there allowance for mistake in past years? Maybe there is. Maybe there should be. Kennesaw Mountain Landis, major league baseball's first commissioner was removed from the MVP award title. This was the impetus for how we begin our discussion. As always, we have our tangents...but we do our best to stay on topic. You'll hear Matt say, "I do that and people make fun of me all the time." You'll hear Mike say, "Everyone says, "Ooh a spongebath." What? No fun!" Please remember to share our podcast with your friends and family and your enemies.
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Episode 009 - The One With David Bowie
10/02/2020
Episode 009 - The One With David Bowie
How does David Bowie figure into our conversation? It's embarrassing, actually - for Matt. Enjoy it. We catch up from our weekend and discuss how we can make America great again. When is that time period that we want to go back to? And what does it mean to make America great again? And was the United States of America made for everyone? We also will talk about how black people and white people might view figures such as Santa...or Jesus differently. After some random thoughts at the end, and a brief interruption from George, we will wrap up our episode. You will hear Mike say, "I just want to know when we all going to make it great for everybody" You will hear Matt say, "Nope...still not talking about anything interesting." Enjoy the episode. Please remember to share us with others!
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Episode 008 - The One Where We Say Her Name
09/25/2020
Episode 008 - The One Where We Say Her Name
It's a slogan. And we are not afraid of it. Yesterday, a Grand Jury declined to indict 2 of the 3 officers involved in the raid that killed Breonna Taylor. The one who was indicted was indicted on charges on wanton endangerment.
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Episode 007 - The One With Statues
09/23/2020
Episode 007 - The One With Statues
There has been a lot of furor and discussion over the past year, particularly, regarding the removal of statues that are deemed as offensive. This is a conversation that requires empathy to understand how others can look at a statue in a different light than you might. Where do these statues belong? Or do they belong anywhere in today's society?
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Episode 006 - The One When Mike Gets the Date Wrong
09/20/2020
Episode 006 - The One When Mike Gets the Date Wrong
Trying to keep it light for a few minutes, we took a break from the heavier subjects from our last two episodes by talking Las Vegas Raiders, masks, and the CDC. But, as you'll find out, we couldn't completely stay away.
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The One Where Matt's Phone Keeps Interrupting
09/19/2020
The One Where Matt's Phone Keeps Interrupting
We dive further into racial division and police interactions. Not surprisingly, Mike and Matt do not view the subject from the same perspective. Are police bad? Are they racist? Why do we have to respect the police?
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The One That Has Some Rough Edits
09/19/2020
The One That Has Some Rough Edits
Our first episode that is solely themed around police treatment of people of color. We specifically refer to the Daniel Prude incident.
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The One With Wakandaland
09/19/2020
The One With Wakandaland
Our third episode covers heat, fire, shoes and our theme song. We end up, somehow, discussing a few Disney-related subjects.
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The One With a Lot of COVID
09/19/2020
The One With a Lot of COVID
How do we reconcile our privacy with the adjustments we are making life for all of the COVID-related changes in our daily routines? Let's explore. And wash your hands!!
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The One Where We Kick It Off
09/19/2020
The One Where We Kick It Off
Our inaugural episode is a brief introduction of Mike & Matt and our thoughts on a few items happening at the beginning of September 2020.
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