Neurodiversity Podcast
The Neurodiversity Podcast talks with leaders in the fields of psychology, education, and beyond, about positively impacting neurodivergent people. Our goal is to reframe differences that were once considered disabilities or disorders, promote awareness of this unique population, and improve the lives of neurodivergent and high-ability people.
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What Behavior is Really Telling Us
07/31/2025
What Behavior is Really Telling Us
In this episode, Emily Kircher-Morris sits down with Joshua Stamper, author of The Language of Behavior, to explore decoding and rethinking behavior. Joshua describes his personal journey from a reluctant student to an inspiring educator, and how early experiences shaped his philosophy on supporting students. The conversation covers key topics such as trauma-informed practices, the importance of building relationships in education, and Joshua's innovative framework for understanding behavior through environment, root causes, and intentional response. They also touch on burnout and the need for self-care, and leave you with practical strategies for creating a supportive learning environment. TAKEAWAYS Behavior is communication. Connection before correction. Adopt trauma-informed practices. Prioritize educator self-care. Empathize with student experience. Join us for our , Creating Neurodiversity-Affirming Schools, a learning and continuing education opportunity. The event will feature a presentation by Emily Kircher-Morris and Amanda Morin, and you'll hear from a panel of experts about the future of education. ! Joshua Stamper is an educator, speaker, and author with a deep commitment to fostering growth and leadership in education. As the creator of Aspire to Lead and a former middle school administrator with nine years of experience, he draws on both his professional background and personal journey as a struggling student to advocate for supportive, student-centered learning environments. Joshua is the author of The Language of Behavior, a practical guide that equips educators with trauma-responsive strategies and alternative behavior practices to enhance student success. Through his writing, speaking, and leadership work, he empowers education professionals to lead with empathy, embrace innovation, and drive meaningful change in their schools and communities. BACKGROUND READING , , , , , , The Neurodiversity Podcast is on , , , and you’re invited to join our .
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Playing May Be the Most Important Work We Do
07/24/2025
Playing May Be the Most Important Work We Do
On today's episode, Emily Kircher-Morris talks about the transformative power of play with Georgie Wisen-Vincent, a nationally recognized expert in play therapy. Emily and Georgie explore how play supports emotional resilience, not just in young children, but across all ages. They talk about the importance of adapting play for neurodivergent children, and the role of play in fostering emotional regulation and executive function. They also discuss ways to engage with children through play, and provide suggestions on how to create meaningful connections that nurture their development. TAKEAWAYS Play is essential for emotional resilience. Play therapy has a role in neurodevelopment. Adapt play for neurodivergent children. Play has an impact on emotional regulation and executive function. You should establish a balance between screen time and real-world play. Play should remain present in educational settings. Let the courses in the help you be a better educator, parent, and/or clinician. Georgie Wisen-Vincent, LMFT, RPT-S, ECMHS is a nationally recognized play therapy expert and co-author of The Way of Play (Penguin Random House, January 2025) with Dr. Tina Payne Bryson. She is the Founder and Director of The Play Strong Institute, a center focused on the study and practice of play therapy through a neurodevelopmental lens, and also practices as a child, adolescent, and family psychotherapist at The Center for Connection in Southern California. Georgie is a graduate professor at Santa Clara University and an active researcher in childhood play, attachment science, and mental health. She studied play therapy at the University of Roehampton in London and is currently completing her doctoral degree. BACKGROUND READING , , The Neurodiversity Podcast is on , , , and you’re invited to join our .
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Christopher Willard on Mental Health, Education, and Farts (!?)
07/21/2025
Christopher Willard on Mental Health, Education, and Farts (!?)
Emily Kircher-Morris talks with Dr. Christopher Willard, a clinical psychologist and author, about the complexities of life's major transitions. At this time of year, this is an especially-important conversation, as some students prepare for the shift to college life. They share their own experiences and provide advice on navigating the pressures of newfound independence, the importance of self-care, and the role of systemic support in easing major transitions. Yes, they also talk about farts, so this episode has something for everyone. TAKEAWAYS It's important to understand the mental health challenges that often arise during major life transitions. There's a role for social media in destigmatizing mental health issues, but it also spreads misinformation. Systemic support is essential in educational institutions, in order to better assist students, especially those from marginalized communities. It's important not to over-pathologize normal emotional experiences. There was a creative process behind Dr. Willard's children's book, "Feelings Are Like Farts," which uses humor to engage kids in understanding emotions. Let the courses in the help you be a better educator, parent, and/or clinician. Dr. Christopher Willard is a clinical psychologist, author, and consultant based in Massachusetts, with a global presence as a speaker in over 40 countries and two TEDx events. He is the author of 20 books on mental health and mindfulness, including Alphabreaths, Growing Up Mindful, Feelings Are Like Farts, and the upcoming College Mental Health 101 (2025). Dr. Willard's work has been featured in The New York Times, The Washington Post, , and . In addition to his clinical and writing work, he teaches at Harvard Medical School, where he continues to shape conversations around mindfulness, emotional well-being, and mental health in education and beyond. BACKGROUND READING , , , The Neurodiversity Podcast is on , , , and you’re invited to join our .
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Revisiting Girls and ADHD
07/11/2025
Revisiting Girls and ADHD
Generalizations about ADHD haven’t done girls any favors. ADHD often manifests very differently in girls than in boys. What causes parents, educators, and even doctors, to view the symptoms of ADHD differently with girls? We know that masking, and even variations in environments, often cause symptoms to be missed. How is that happening? We’re revisiting the subject and chat with Stephen Hinshaw, a Distinguished Professor of Psychology at UC Berkeley and Professor of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences at UC San Francisco. Find out more about building neurodiversity-affirming schools, and about the courses we’ll be offering soon, . Stephen P. Hinshaw is Distinguished Professor of Psychology at UC Berkeley and Professor of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences at UC San Francisco. His focus is on developmental psychopathology, child and adolescent mental health (particularly ADHD), and the use of clinical trials to understand underlying mechanisms. He also actively investigates mental illness stigmatization and attempts to reduce such stigma. Hinshaw has authored over 400 articles, chapters, and commentaries, plus 12 books. He has won numerous national and international research awards, including the James McKeen Cattell Fellow Award from the Association for Psychological Science, the Distinguished Scientific Contributions Award from the American Psychological Association, and the Sarnat International Prize in Mental Health from the National Academy of Medicine. He was inducted into the American Academy of Arts and Sciences in 2021. His extensive media coverage includes the New York Times, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, Today Show, CBS Evening News, ABC World News Tonight, and many more. BACKGROUND READING , , , The Neurodiversity Podcast is on , , , and you’re invited to join our .
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Why Do We Still Debate Overexcitabilities?
06/26/2025
Why Do We Still Debate Overexcitabilities?
Emily Kircher-Morris welcomes Dr. Chris Wells, a writer, researcher, and podcaster who specializes in positive disintegration. They break down the theory of positive disintegration, developed by Kazimierz Dąbrowski, and its relevance to personal growth and neurodiversity. They explore the concept of over-excitability, its implications in the gifted education community, and the controversy surrounding its interpretation. They talk about disintegration as a pathway to self-actualization, and the need for community support for those experiencing intense emotional states. They also discuss the future directions of integrating Dąbrowski's theory with contemporary understandings of neurodiversity. TAKEAWAYS The theory of positive disintegration is about personal growth. Dąbrowski's work connects mental illness with developmental potential. Over-excitability is a key concept in understanding neurodivergence. The gifted education community often misunderstands Dąbrowski's theory. Positive disintegration can lead to self-actualization. Intensity and sensitivity can be both a blessing and a curse. Navigating disintegration requires a grounding practice. Community support is essential for those experiencing disintegration. Episode 147, with Alex Vuyk: Positive Disintegration podcast mentioned in our conversation (link is to Apple podcasts) Check out the courses in the . Chris Wells, PhD is a writer, researcher, and podcaster specializing in positive disintegration, neurodivergence, and personal growth. They are the founder of the Dąbrowski Center and creator of the Positive Disintegration Network, dedicated to bringing Dąbrowski’s theory of positive disintegration into both academic and public conversations. Chris co-hosts the Positive Disintegration and Cosmic Cheer Squad podcasts and shares their work on Substack, where they blend theory with lived experience to make complex psychological concepts more accessible. Their work centers on self-development, authenticity, and transformation, supporting others in navigating growth through the lens of neurodivergence. BACKGROUND READING , , ,
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Love on the Spectrum's Kaelynn Partlow on Autism, Advocacy, and Acceptance
06/18/2025
Love on the Spectrum's Kaelynn Partlow on Autism, Advocacy, and Acceptance
Kaelynn Partlow is an autism advocate and author, and one of the stars of the Netflix series, Love on the Spectrum. Today she joins Emily to talk about her experiences with autism, and they cover a lot of ground in this conversation. They discuss the evolution and effectiveness of ABA therapy, the need for accurate labeling, and using declarative language in communication. They also offer advice for parents of newly diagnosed children, and talk about the importance of finding community. TAKEAWAYS The world will label children if parents don't. The superpower label is a double-edged sword. Nuance is often lost in discussions about autism. Profound autism requires specific understanding and advocacy. Declarative language can reduce pressure in communication. Specific questions help autistic individuals engage better. Finding community is essential for parents of autistic children. Have Emily come and speak to your school district, company, or organization. where you can find out more and get in touch. Kaelynn Partlow is an autism advocate, speaker, and author widely recognized for her appearance on the Netflix series Love on the Spectrum. Through her impactful social media presence, she promotes meaningful inclusion and practical support, reaching millions with her message of autism acceptance and understanding. Kaelynn is the author of Life on the Bridge, a book that offers both personal and professional insights to foster deeper connection between autistic and non-autistic people. Since joining Project Hope in 2015 as a Registered Behavior Technician, she has led therapy sessions, developed staff training materials, and shared her expertise nationally to support more informed and compassionate autism care. BACKGROUND READING
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Understanding Yourself: A Process for Finding the Person Inside
06/12/2025
Understanding Yourself: A Process for Finding the Person Inside
Today's episode is a heartfelt conversation about the importance of helping neurodivergent children understand themselves and their brain profile, and how this understanding can foster confidence and self-advocacy. Emily talks with Dr. Liz Angoff about the need for transparent communication with children about their diagnoses, and the use of relatable metaphors to explain complex concepts. They discuss collaborative approaches in assessments, the challenges of co-occurring diagnoses, and the role of parents in supporting their children. How can families find practitioners who align with neurodiversity-affirming practices, and how can that lead to understanding and acceptance for both children and their families? Get comfortable, today's conversation covers a lot of ground. TAKEAWAYS Helping kids understand their brain profiles is crucial. Self-understanding fosters confidence and self-advocacy. Using relatable metaphors can aid in explaining neurodiversity. Labels can serve as anchors for understanding experiences. Children often internalize negative labels if not addressed. Collaborative assessments enhance understanding for both kids and parents. Empowering parents shifts the narrative from deficits to differences. Finding the right practitioner is essential for supportive assessments. Normalizing neurodiversity can change family dynamics for life. Have Emily come and speak to your school district, company, or organization. where you can find out more and get in touch. Grab up some for the summer, and help fund our efforts at the same time. Dr. Liz Angoff is a Licensed Educational Psychologist and a Diplomate in School Neuropsychology, specializing in assessment and consultation for children and their families in the Bay Area, California. Her work centers on helping neurodivergent children better understand and embrace how their brains work, fostering confidence, self-advocacy, and empowerment. She is the author of the Brain Building Books and Our Brains, a series designed to support children in navigating their learning and identity through affirming, accessible language. Through her practice and writing, Dr. Liz is committed to demystifying the evaluation process and creating tools that help families and educators work together to support thriving learners. BACKGROUND READING , , , ,
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Beyond Buzzwords: Rethinking Our Neurodiversity Discourse
06/05/2025
Beyond Buzzwords: Rethinking Our Neurodiversity Discourse
Emily Kircher-Morris chats with Emily Paige Ballou about the need for a more nuanced conversation around identity and support for neurodivergent individuals. They talk about the social model of disability, and the implications of public discourse on autism. They also explore the superpower narrative, and the importance of understanding both strengths and challenges of neurodivergent individuals. They touch on the cultural context of autism today, and critiques of the label of Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA). TAKEAWAYS Neurodiversity is rooted in the concept of biodiversity. The term neurodiversity is often misused in mainstream conversations. Disability is an inherent part of human diversity. The superpower narrative can overshadow the challenges of neurodivergence. Support must address both strengths and disabilities. The social model of disability is a useful framework but has limitations. Identity-related statements can be problematic and oversimplified. PDA may obscure underlying issues rather than clarify them. Public discourse on autism is regressing in some areas. Click here to ! If you're a teacher, administrator, school counselor, or parent of a neurodivergent student, this community is where you can share, ask questions, and find training that will help you along your journey. Please come join us. Emily Paige Ballou is an AEA stage manager specializing in new plays and musicals based in New York City. She is also the co-editor of Sincerely, Your Autistic Child: What People on the Autism Spectrum Wish Their Parents Knew about Growing Up, Acceptance, and Identity (Beacon Press), a collection of essays offering insights from autistic individuals on self-acceptance and advocacy. Emily has contributed writing to Thinking Person’s Guide to Autism, OnStage Blog, and has forthcoming work in Champagne Room Journal. Beyond her work in theater and writing, she is an avid hiker and a devoted Kansas City Royals baseball fan. Her personal reflections and essays can be found on her blog, Chavisory's Notebook. BACKGROUND READING , , The Neurodiversity Podcast is on , , , and you’re invited to join our . For more information go to .
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Dietary Difficulty: Fueling the Neurodivergent Brain
05/29/2025
Dietary Difficulty: Fueling the Neurodivergent Brain
Emily Kircher-Morris welcomes registered dietician Jackie Silver, who specializes in nutrition for neurodivergent people. They discuss the unique challenges faced by the neurodiversity community, including sensory differences, interoception, and executive functioning barriers that complicate meal planning and nutrition. They also talk about practical strategies to support the neurodivergent people in your life with making good dietary choices. They identify and analyze disordered eating patterns, and discuss the significance of self-compassion in the journey towards better nutrition. TAKEAWAYS Many dietitians overlook the unique needs of neurodivergent clients. Meal planning can be overwhelming for those with executive dysfunction. It's important to work within people's "safe foods." Sensory sensitivities can greatly impact food choices and preferences. Interoception plays a crucial role in recognizing hunger and fullness cues. Mechanical eating can help those with suppressed appetites due to medication. Small, manageable changes can lead to significant improvements in nutrition. Disordered eating patterns are common among neurodivergent people, especially with ADHD. The window will open soon to ! If you're a teacher, administrator, school counselor, or parent of a neurodivergent student, this community is where you can share, ask questions, and find training that will help you along your journey. Please come join us. Jackie Silver is a NYC-based Registered Dietitian and founder of Jackie Silver Nutrition, a virtual private practice specializing in supporting neurodivergent kids, teens, and adults with ADHD, ASD and IDD. Her practice is neurodiversity-affirming, nonjudgmental, and weight-inclusive. he holds a Master of Health Science in Nutrition Communication from Toronto Metropolitan University and has additional training in mindful eating and sensory-based feeding therapy. Jackie works with clients across New York, Pennsylvania, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Ontario, and beyond, offering support with meal planning, selective eating, digestive health, chronic disease management, and more. In her free time, Jackie enjoys rock climbing, yoga, Pilates, swimming, travel, museums, and spending time with family and friends. BACKGROUND READING , , , ,
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Time Blindness: What To Do When Now Isn't Now
05/22/2025
Time Blindness: What To Do When Now Isn't Now
Emily Kircher-Morris welcomes Dr. Ari Tuckman for a conversation about time blindness, the complexities of ADHD, and the stigma surrounding the disorder. They discuss why ADHD is more about the struggle to convert attention into action than a lack of knowledge. They talk about how and why ADHD affects time perception and performance under pressure. If you're prone to procrastination, anxiety, and time management issues, this is an episode you need to hear. TAKEAWAYS ADHD is often misunderstood as a lack of attention rather than a difficulty in converting attention into action. Time perception in ADHD can be distorted, leading to challenges in planning and prioritizing tasks. Individuals with ADHD may perform better under pressure, but this can lead to anxiety and self-doubt. The internalized stigma can cause ADHD individuals to feel like frauds despite their successes. Social dynamics play a significant role in how ADHD behaviors are perceived by others. The pressure to conform to neurotypical standards can hinder the ability to find effective personal strategies. ADHD can contribute to anxiety, not just in the individual but also in those around them. Procrastination can also cause anxiety for others around you. Time management involves multiple components, including attention management. Physical clocks can help with time perception. Alarms are reminders, not motivators. Gamifying tasks can reduce procrastination. The window will open soon to ! If you're a teacher, administrator, school counselor, or parent of a neurodivergent student, this community is where you can share, ask questions, and find training that will help you along your journey. Please come join us. Ari Tuckman, PsyD, MBA, is a psychologist, author, and recognized expert in adult ADHD with over two decades of experience in the field. He has written five books on ADHD and is a sought-after international speaker, known for his engaging presentations that combine insight, humor, and practical strategies to help individuals better understand and manage ADHD. In addition to his clinical work, Dr. Tuckman has been a strong advocate for increasing awareness and access to effective ADHD treatment. He regularly contributes to professional publications, podcasts, and conferences, providing guidance for both individuals with ADHD and the professionals who support them. As a leading voice in the field, he is dedicated to empowering neurodivergent individuals to thrive in both personal and professional settings. BACKGROUND READING ,
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Flashback: Autism + ADHD = AuDHD
05/14/2025
Flashback: Autism + ADHD = AuDHD
A term has been gaining traction over the last few years: AuDHD. Today, Emily Kircher-Morris is talking with Mattia Maurée, a neurodivergent individual who is both ADHD and autistic. They talk about how the two diagnoses blend together, one side desiring routine and sameness, while the other seeks novelty and change. They also discuss the challenges of receiving accurate diagnoses, the impact of stigma on neurodivergent individuals, how career pathways are affected, Mattia’s personal experiences of being misunderstood and judged, and the importance of community. The conversation covers many other subjects as well, and is also part of an earlier episode. TAKEAWAYS ADHD and autism can coexist in individuals, with one part of them desiring routine and sameness while the other seeks novelty and change. Receiving accurate diagnoses for neurodivergent individuals can be challenging, as the symptoms of different conditions can overlap and mask each other. Stigma and misunderstandings surrounding neurodivergent individuals are pervasive and can lead to discrimination and mistreatment. Being twice exceptional, with both ADHD and autism, can result in unique challenges and experiences, including being misunderstood and judged by others. When Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) is a factor, it can lead to difficulties in regulating the nervous system, and can have a significant impact on daily life. Finding a career that aligns with one's interests and strengths is crucial for neurodivergent individuals. Community support and understanding are essential for neurodivergent individuals to thrive and feel deeply understood. Check out the , where you'll find a library of courses (many great for CE credits), and communities where like-minded people learn and share ideas. Mattia Maurée is an AuDHD coach and host of the AuDHD Flourishing Podcast. Creative outlets in music and the arts became their refuge through a childhood full of unpredictability. Confronting their trauma sparked an interest in the topic and Mattia led them to their autism diagnosis in their 30’s, as well as finding somatic neurodivergent-friendly methods of working through their depression and anxiety. They now share their experiences to give hope to queer, trans, and neurodivergent youth and young adults through their coaching, and embrace the philosophy of “feel better first.” BACKGROUND READING , , The Neurodiversity Podcast is on , , , and you’re invited to join our . For more information go to
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Is It PDA? Demand Avoidance in the Context of Autism
05/08/2025
Is It PDA? Demand Avoidance in the Context of Autism
On episode 270, Emily Kircher-Morris welcomes Dr. Taylor Day, a licensed psychologist who specializes in neuro-affirming care for autistic children and their families. They discuss the complexities of Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) in children, and the importance of understanding neurodiversity and the need for family-centered care. They cover the challenges of identifying PDA, the risks of misdiagnosis, and the necessity of adapting parenting and therapeutic strategies to better support children with this profile. They also validate parents' experiences and intuition, and endorse a holistic approach to autism care that considers the needs of the entire family. TAKEAWAYS PDA is a conceptualization rather than a formal diagnosis. Validating lived experiences is crucial for families. Research on PDA is progressing slowly. Parents often face dismissal in the medical community. PDA behaviors may resemble defiance or oppositionality. Affirming approaches can prevent family burnout. Quality of services is more important than quantity. Parents are the experts on their children. Therapy can take many forms beyond traditional methods. The Neurodiversity University Therapist Hub registration window is closed for now, but will open again soon, and you can to be notified! If you're a mental health professional we want you in our group of like-minded peers, in a vibrant community where learning and sharing are front and center. Meantime, we'll be opening our Educator Hub to new members in the next couple of weeks! If you're an educator or have a student in your life, we would love for you to be part of it. We can notify you as soon as it opens, so get on the list ! Dr. Taylor Day is a licensed psychologist specializing in neuro-affirming care for autistic children and their families, with a focus on early diagnosis and intervention. She is the CEO and founder of Dr. Tay Concierge Clinical Care, where she developed The Whole Family Approach, an evidence-informed model designed to address gaps in autism care by supporting both children and their families. Dr. Day holds a Ph.D. in clinical psychology and is dedicated to advancing early childhood autism support through personalized, family-centered interventions. Her passion for child psychology and autism advocacy is deeply rooted in her personal experience growing up with a brother diagnosed at 23 months of age. BACKGROUND READING , ,
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Authenticity: Belonging vs Fitting In
04/30/2025
Authenticity: Belonging vs Fitting In
Speech Dude Chris Wenger joins Emily Kircher-Morris to discuss the importance of shifting from compliance-based educational strategies to more affirming practices for neurodivergent students. They explore the significance of creating safe and regulated environments, the difference between belonging and fitting in, and the need to redefine social goals to foster authentic connections among students. They talk about the value of autonomy, community building, and understanding the unique challenges faced by high school students in the context of neurodiversity. TAKEAWAYS The shift from compliance-based strategies to affirming support is crucial for neurodivergent students. Belonging is more important than fitting in for neurodivergent individuals. Social goals should focus on authentic connections rather than masking behaviors. Autonomy in decision-making enhances both student and teacher experiences. Intersectionality plays a significant role in the experiences of neurodivergent individuals. After school clubs can foster connections between neurodivergent and neuro-normative students. Normalizing neurodivergent behaviors can enhance acceptance in schools. The DASL assessment tool focuses on strengths rather than deficits. Language used in reports can affect parent-child dynamics. The Neurodiversity University Therapist Hub is ! Be among a group of like-minded peers in a vibrant community, where learning and sharing are front and center. We’re building a world that works for all neurotypes, and we need you! Chris Wenger is a neurodivergent high school speech-language pathologist with over 20 years of experience, an international speaker, and the creator of the Dynamic Assessment of Social Emotional Learning, a strengths-based assessment designed for autistic students. He is also the founder of NeuroAffirm, a groundbreaking global directory that connects neurodivergent individuals and their families with affirming providers. Widely known as Speech Dude, Chris has built a global following of nearly one million on social media, where he shares educational and inspiring content infused with humor. His work focuses on making neuroaffirming practices more accessible while empowering educators, therapists, and families to better support neurodivergent learners. BACKGROUND READING , ,
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Why School Refusal May Not Be What It Seems (and What to Do Instead)
04/23/2025
Why School Refusal May Not Be What It Seems (and What to Do Instead)
School refusal and distress are the subject of the day, as Emily Kircher-Morris welcomes child psychologist and former school psychologist, Dr. Emily King. They discuss the importance of understanding the underlying causes of anxiety, the need for neurodiversity-affirming approaches, and the balance between structure and flexibility in educational settings. The also discuss the importance of grace, connection, and individualized strategies when helping children navigate their emotional experiences. TAKEAWAYS School refusal is often a response to anxiety, not an active choice. Understanding the difference between school refusal and school distress is crucial. Patterns of anxiety can vary based on environmental factors. Children may need different levels of support depending on their emotional state. Co-regulation is essential for helping children manage anxiety. Predictability in routines can help reduce anxiety for neurodivergent children. Flexibility within structure is important in educational settings. Parents should focus on what is necessary in their routines to reduce stress. Exit plans can empower children and reduce feelings of being trapped. Every child's experience is unique, and strategies should be individualized. for a free one-hour continuing education webinar entitled The Cost of Camouflage: Exploring Masking and Burnout in Neurodivergent Clients. It’s a free service of the Neurodiversity University! Dr. Emily King is a child psychologist and former school psychologist with over 20 years of experience working with neurodivergent children and teens. She began her career specializing in school-based mental health in K-12 public schools in Houston, Texas, before transitioning to private practice in North Carolina, where she now supports the mental health needs of neurodivergent youth, their families, and educators. Dr. Emily is the creator of The Neurodiverse Classroom, a professional development curriculum for educators, and hosts Learn with Dr. Emily on Substack, where she shares blogs, live workshops, and insights on neurodiversity and education. Her upcoming book, The Neurodivergent Learner, will be available for presale in early 2026. Her expertise has been featured on MSNBC’s Morning Joe, The New York Times, The Washington Post, and Parents.com. BACKGROUND READING , , ,
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Beyond Words: The Truth About Selective (Situational) Mutism
04/18/2025
Beyond Words: The Truth About Selective (Situational) Mutism
Today, Emily Kircher-Morris and Meredith Polsky look into the complexities of selective mutism, exploring its definitions, the importance of language in understanding it, and the personal experiences that led Meredith to specialize in this area. They discuss the myths surrounding selective mutism, and its manifestation as an anxiety disorder rather than a choice or a form of shyness. Meredith shares her journey as a parent of children with selective mutism and the challenges she faced in finding appropriate treatment, ultimately leading her to become a clinician herself. They explore the challenges of diagnosis, and provide effective therapeutic techniques. This is a must-listen for adults supporting children with selective mutism. TAKEAWAYS Selective mutism is often misunderstood as a choice. Language matters in discussing selective mutism. The term 'situational mutism' is gaining popularity. Parents play a crucial role in treatment. Selective mutism is an anxiety disorder, not shyness. Pushing children to speak can increase anxiety. There is a lack of awareness among clinicians about selective mutism. Selective mutism can complicate the diagnosis of autism. Children with selective mutism may not exhibit typical anxiety responses. Effective communication strategies are crucial for children with selective mutism. for a free one-hour continuing education webinar entitled The Cost of Camouflage: Exploring Masking and Burnout in Neurodivergent Clients. It’s a free service of the Neurodiversity University! Meredith Polsky, LCSW is a licensed clinical social worker specializing in Selective Mutism through her private practice, Counseling Out Loud. With a career dedicated to supporting children with diverse needs, she also serves as the Senior Director of Programs and Partnerships at Matan, Inc., an organization she co-founded in 2000 to promote inclusion in education. Meredith is the co-author of the award-winning I Have a Question children’s book series (Jessica Kingsley Publishers), which helps children—both with and without disabilities—navigate complex topics. She holds a BA in Psychology from the University of Michigan, an MA in Early Childhood Special Education from Bank Street College, an MA in Clinical Social Work from Columbia University, and a graduate certificate in Early Intervention from Georgetown University. BACKGROUND READING , , , ,
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When Consistency is the Game Changer
04/10/2025
When Consistency is the Game Changer
On episode 266, Emily Kircher-Morris discusses the critical role of executive functioning in education with Mitch Weathers, author of Executive Functions for Every Classroom. They explore how these skills are essential for student success, and discuss incorporating them into teaching practices, rather than treating them as an afterthought. The conversation also covers the importance of clarity, modeling, and routine in teaching these skills, and the challenges posed by the digital era. TAKEAWAYS Executive functioning is a core part of learning. Teaching executive functioning skills should be explicit and integrated into the curriculum. Clarity, modeling, and routine are essential for teaching these skills. Students need daily practice to develop executive functioning skills. The digital age may hinder the development of these skills. Organization is a transformative skill that grounds students. Self-assessment empowers students to reflect on their learning. Teachers struggling with executive dysfunction can impact their students' learning. Accountability involves collaboration between teachers, students, and families. Neurodivergent students benefit from tailored strategies and workarounds. for a free one-hour continuing education webinar entitled The Cost of Camouflage: Exploring Masking and Burnout in Neurodivergent Clients. It’s a free service of the Neurodiversity University! Mitch Weathers is an educator, author, and expert in executive functioning. He is the founder and creator of Organized Binder, an evidence-based, MTSS Tier 1 universal solution designed to help students develop essential executive functioning skills such as goal setting, time management, reflective learning, and organization. His book, Executive Functions for Every Classroom, became a #1 bestseller, highlighting his structured approach to fostering academic success through clear expectations and routines. Mitch’s work emphasizes the importance of hands-on, analog strategies to build resilience and independence in students, ensuring they develop the foundational skills needed to thrive in an increasingly digital world. BACKGROUND READING , , , The Neurodiversity Podcast is on , , , and you’re invited to join our . For more information go to .
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One-Size Doesn't Fit All: Variability in Neurodivergent Brains
04/04/2025
One-Size Doesn't Fit All: Variability in Neurodivergent Brains
Emily Kircher-Morris talks with Barbara Pape, Senior Director of the Learner Variability Project, about the concept of learner variability. The conversation touches on the importance of recognizing each student's unique strengths and challenges. They explore how educators can support neurodivergent learners through personalized instruction, they cover the role of technology in education, and talk about the need for a sense of belonging in the classroom. The discussion also touches on the barriers educators face in addressing learner variability and the evolution of educational policy to better support diverse learners. TAKEAWAYS Learner variability is the recognition that each student has unique strengths and challenges. Teaching to the middle does not effectively reach any student. Understanding learner variability allows educators to see design challenges rather than student problems. The Learner Variability Navigator is a tool for educators to understand and support diverse learners. Creating a sense of belonging is crucial for student engagement and success. Students should have agency in how their accommodations are presented to peers. Belonging in the classroom requires a whole child approach. Educational policy must evolve to provide adequate support for neurodivergent learners. Barbara Pape is the Senior Director of the Learner Variability Project at Digital Promise, where she led a national survey on learner variability, edtech, and teacher practice, authored the defining paper on learner variability, and co-developed the IEP Project, which emphasizes strength-based, whole-child approaches to writing IEPs. She also hosts a monthly edWeb webinar series and previously served as executive producer of the award-winning Teaching & Learning conference for the National Board for Professional Teaching Standards. Her background includes roles in public policy, having worked on former U.S. Senator Paul Simon’s Senate and Presidential campaign, as well as in the U.S. Senate on the Education and Labor Committee. Barbara has contributed to numerous publications and was the editor and publisher of the first electronically delivered education newsletter, The Daily Report Card. She serves on the boards of Benetech and The Riley Project and is involved in multiple education and learner variability working groups. Previously, she was an advisor for the Kennedy Center’s Intersection of the Arts and Special Education and a strategic planning committee member for Montgomery County Public Schools. She is currently pursuing a PhD at University College London, holds an EdM in reading and literacy from Harvard University’s Graduate School of Education, and began her career as a middle school language arts teacher. BACKGROUND READING , , , , , The Neurodiversity Podcast is on , , , and you’re invited to join our . For more information go to
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The Double Empathy Problem in the Classroom
03/26/2025
The Double Empathy Problem in the Classroom
On episode 264, we’re sharing our sister podcast’s conversation about the double empathy problem. In Creating Neurodiversity-Affirming Schools, Emily Kircher-Morris and Amanda Morin explore a concept that challenges the assumption that neurodivergent individuals lack empathy, and instead highlights how misunderstandings happen between different neurotypes. They share personal stories, real-world classroom scenarios, and strategies to help educators bridge the communication gap with their neurodivergent students. TAKEAWAYS The double empathy problem—what it is and why it matters in schools. How educators can shift from assuming misbehavior to seeking understanding. The difference between cognitive empathy (perspective-taking) and affective empathy (emotional connection). Why curiosity and asking the right questions can prevent conflict and improve student-teacher relationships. Strategies for making classroom environments more emotionally safe for neurodivergent students. BACKGROUND READING (Damian Milton, 2012) by Em Hammond – Visual resources explaining neurodiversity concepts Neurodiversity University Educator Hub: Neurodiversity-Affirming Schools: Transforming Practices So All Students Feel Accepted and Supported - The Neurodiversity Podcast is on , , , and you’re invited to join our . For more information go to
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There's Much More to OCD Than You Think
03/20/2025
There's Much More to OCD Than You Think
Today, Emily Kircher-Morris welcomes Natalia Aíza, a therapist and advocate, to talk about the complexities of Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD). They debunk common myths and misconceptions, and talk about what OCD actually is. It's important to understand the OCD cycle, be able to identify the various types of OCD, and understand how it often coexists with other neurodivergent conditions like ADHD and autism. They also talk about the impact of reassurance seeking, the nuances of Just Right OCD, and the challenges of school refusal. The conversation includes insights into how parents and therapists can better support individuals with OCD, and help them on the journey towards a better life. TAKEAWAYS OCD is often misunderstood, with many believing it only relates to cleanliness. The OCD cycle involves triggers, obsessions, and compulsions that reinforce fears. Moral scrupulosity and harm OCD are common types that are often overlooked. OCD is distinct from generalized anxiety. ADHD and OCD can coexist, leading to unique challenges in diagnosis and treatment. Autism can complicate the presentation of OCD, requiring specialized understanding. Reassurance seeking can inadvertently reinforce OCD behaviors. Just Right OCD reflects a perfectionism that can manifest in various aspects of life. School refusal can be a manifestation of OCD, leading to avoidance patterns. featuring Eli Lebowitz Check out our , including Strategies for Supporting Twice-Exceptional Students. This episode was edited to add clarity to the subject of school avoidance or refusal, to indicate they aren’t exclusive to OCD. For some neurodivergent kids, it is a matter of a lack of accommodations and supports that make educational settings traumatic environments. School avoidance or refusal is a nuanced subject, and a deeper dive is planned for an episode in the near future. Natalia Aíza, LPC, is a therapist, parent trainer, and advocate dedicated to increasing awareness and improving treatment for individuals with OCD. She co-founded Kairos Wellness Collective, a therapy center specializing in OCD and Anxiety Disorders, where she works to enhance competency among mental health practitioners and support individuals on their healing journey. In addition to her clinical work, Natalia provides free psychoeducation and advocacy through her Instagram platform, @letstalk.ocd, helping to destigmatize OCD and promote evidence-based treatment. She earned her BA in Literature from Harvard University and an MA in Clinical Mental Health Counseling from Palo Alto University. BACKGROUND READING The Neurodiversity Podcast is on , , , and you’re invited to join our . For more information go to
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Navigating the Emotional Landscape
03/12/2025
Navigating the Emotional Landscape
Today Emily Kircher-Morris welcomes Leah Kuypers, developer of the Zones of Regulation framework, to discuss self-regulation skills. They talk about the importance of emotional awareness, the practical applications of the framework in educational settings, and how it provides a common language for expressing feelings. Leah shares insights from her experience as an occupational therapist and educator, including the impact of the framework on students' ability to communicate their emotions and navigate their environments effectively. They discuss the need to move away from labeling emotions as good or bad, and explore practical strategies for implementing self-regulation tools in educational settings. TAKEAWAYS Self-regulation challenges significantly impact students' well-being and success. The Zones of Regulation framework provides a common language for expressing feelings. All zones are valid; there are no good or bad zones. Visual supports can help neurodivergent students communicate their feelings. The framework is designed to foster emotional intelligence and self-awareness. Teaching self-regulation skills can reduce reliance on punitive measures. The framework can be adapted for various age groups and needs. Emotional intelligence can be difficult to articulate, even for older students. Co-regulation with adults can help children identify and manage their emotions. Understanding the neurobiological aspects of regulation can inform better support strategies. the Strategies for Supporting Twice-Exceptional Students course, and all of the others available now in the Neurodiversity University. Leah Kuypers, MA Ed., OTR/L, is an occupational therapist, autism resource specialist, and educator, dedicated to helping individuals develop self-regulation skills. While working in public schools, she recognized the profound impact that regulation difficulties had on learners’ overall well-being and daily functioning. This led her to develop The Zones of Regulation, a systematic and practical framework designed to foster emotional and sensory regulation. Since its initial publication in 2011, The Zones of Regulation has sold over 300,000 copies worldwide and has been widely adopted in educational and therapeutic settings. In 2024, Leah launched The Zones of Regulation Digital Curriculum, which has already been implemented in 40 countries. Her team trains more than 8,000 educators and practitioners annually around the globe, equipping them with tools to support learners in developing essential self-regulation skills. BACKGROUND READING The Neurodiversity Podcast is on , , , and you’re invited to join our . For more information go to
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Gestalt Language Processing
03/06/2025
Gestalt Language Processing
Today Emily Kircher-Morris talks with Gestalt language processing expert Ali Battye about the nuts and bolts of Gestalt, and why it's useful and important in understanding and supporting neurodivergent communicators. They talk about the barriers faced by Gestalt language processors, the role of augmentative and alternative communication (AAC), and the need for a strengths-based approach in communication. There are some common misconceptions about Gestalt language processing, and they explain and dispel them in this conversation. TAKEAWAYS Echolalia has become a helpful part of the learning process in Gestalt. Understanding the child's intent is crucial for effective communication. AAC can support children who struggle with verbal communication. Communication should be viewed as a connection-based approach. Misinformation about Gestalt language processing is prevalent. Real-life communication is complex and multimodal. Valuing a child's unique communication style fosters growth. Research on language acquisition should include lived experiences. when the Therapist Hub opens for new members. It's a great opportunity to transform your practice into a more neurodiversity-affirming place, using tools and methods that benefit all clients. It's also a great resource for accredited CE! Ali Battye is a highly experienced speech and language therapist with 25 years of practice in the UK and Australia. She specializes in neurodiversity-affirming therapy for autistic and neurodivergent children, with a focus on supporting Gestalt Language Processing (GLP) through Augmentative and Alternative Communication (AAC). Ali is also an accomplished author, having written books on AAC and, most recently, on GLP, advocating for joyful therapy that prioritizes genuine connection. Ali’s expertise is rooted in her extensive clinical experience and commitment to creating inclusive, supportive therapeutic practices that empower neurodivergent individuals. BACKGROUND READING
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The Barrier-Breaking Evolution of Whole Body Regulation
02/26/2025
The Barrier-Breaking Evolution of Whole Body Regulation
Today we're discussing the concept of whole body listening, and its evolution to whole body regulation. Elizabeth Sautter joins Emily Kircher-Morris to talk about that evolution, and what it means to neurodivergent people and those who support them. They discuss emotional regulation and co-regulation, the role of educators and parents in modeling emotional awareness, and the impact of shame on neurodivergent learners. Also, the complexities of vulnerability, and the significant difference between calling someone out, and calling them in. TAKEAWAYS The shift from whole body listening to whole body regulation is crucial. Co-regulation is foundational for emotional regulation. Adults must model emotional awareness for children. Understanding individual needs is key to effective learning. Shame can hinder the learning process for neurodivergent kids. Brene Brown's work highlights the importance of discussing vulnerability and shame. Calling in promotes understanding and change more effectively than calling out. The stages of grief can be applied to the process of unlearning harmful practices. Self-reflection is essential for educators and parents to shift their approaches. when the Therapist Hub opens for new members. It's a great opportunity to transform your practice into a more neurodiversity-affirming place, using tools and methods that benefit all clients. It's also a great resource for accredited CE! Listen to Emily's other podcast, , co-hosted by Amanda Morin. Elizabeth A. Sautter, MA, CCC, is a speech-language pathologist, speaker, author, and trainer, with expertise in social communication, emotional regulation, and executive functioning. She is the author of Make Social and Emotional Learning Stick! Practical activities to help your child manage emotions, navigate social situations & reduce anxiety, along with many other resources, including an online course and community for parents. Elizabeth collaborates with the Zones of Regulation team as a trainer and is a coauthor of the Zones children’s books, card decks, and games. BACKGROUND READING
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Dyscalculia & Math: A Teacher's and Parent's Guide
02/19/2025
Dyscalculia & Math: A Teacher's and Parent's Guide
On this episode, Emily Kircher-Morris and Dr. Daniel Ansari discuss the complexities of math education, including the anxiety it can cause in students, the challenges of teaching methods, and the importance of understanding learning difficulties like dyscalculia. They talk about the importance of explicit instruction in math, the role of neuroscience in understanding how children learn math, and the significance of working memory and attention in math learning. Educators and parents will also get suggestions for practical strategies that will help them support students struggling with math. TAKEAWAYS Math anxiety affects both children and adults. Explicit instruction is crucial for teaching math. Dyscalculia is often misunderstood and underrecognized. Teaching methods should align with children's developmental levels. Neuroscience reveals links between spatial and numerical processing. Math anxiety does not equate to a lack of ability. Timed practice should be engaging, not competitive. Working memory plays a significant role in math learning. Multisensory approaches can enhance math instruction. Parents should seek community and resources for support. from the Institute of Education Sciences The Think Inclusive Podcast episode Emily talked about - This episode is sponsored by The Council for Exceptional Children, getting ready for their Convention & Expo in Baltimore, March 12-15th. Go to to register! Dr. Daniel Ansari is a Professor and Canada Research Chair in Developmental Cognitive Neuroscience & Learning at Western University. He leads the Numerical Cognition Laboratory, where his research focuses on how children develop numerical and mathematical skills, as well as the cognitive factors contributing to difficulties in learning mathematics. Dr. Ansari and his team are dedicated to bridging the Science of Learning with K-12 education, working to translate research findings into classroom practice. He has authored over 150 peer-reviewed research articles and is a Fellow of the Canadian Institute for Advanced Research (CIFAR), recognized for his contributions to the field of developmental cognitive neuroscience. BACKGROUND READING The Neurodiversity Podcast is available on , , , and you can also join our private .
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What it Takes to Connect With Today's Students
02/12/2025
What it Takes to Connect With Today's Students
Effective teaching involves more than just what happens formally in the classroom, and on this episode, Emily Kircher-Morris welcomes educator and author Adam Meyersieck to talk about it. They discuss the need for engaging teaching methods that connect with students emotionally and socially. They discuss collaboration between parents and educators to support neurodivergent learners, and the significance of strengths-based approaches in teaching. They cover sustainability of the teaching profession, the use of multiple communication modalities, and managing visual clutter to enhance learning environments. TAKEAWAYS Teaching should focus on the process, not just the end result. Collaboration between parents and educators enhances student support. Strengths-based assessments can bridge the gap between home and school. Visual aids can clarify expectations for neurodiverse students. Processing time is crucial for student understanding. Simplicity in instructions aids neurodivergent learners. Sustainable teaching practices lead to better educator retention. Explicit instruction benefits all learners, not just neurodivergent ones. Engaging multiple modalities helps all students retain information better. Providing written instructions fosters independence in learners. Managing visual clutter reduces distractions and enhances focus. and keep up-to-date about the Emily and Amanda's new book, Neurodiversity-Affirming Schools: Transforming Practices So All Students Feel Accepted and Supported, and the new podcast, Creating Neurodiversity-Affirming Schools. This episode is sponsored by The Council for Exceptional Children, getting ready for their Convention & Expo in Baltimore, March 12-15th. Go to to register! Adam Meyersieck is a school district leader, consultant at Legacy Education Group, and educator with nearly two decades of experience in special and inclusive education, professional learning, and neurodiversity teaching strategy. He has trained thousands of educators and school leaders in the US and Great Britain, helping them create inclusive, strength-based learning environments that truly support neurodiverse students. He is also the author of Universal Best Practices for All Learners: Discover Your Teaching Strengths, a book designed to help educators leverage their strengths and make teaching more sustainable while meeting the needs of all learners. Adam is passionate about helping school leaders and teachers better connect with their students, ensuring that education is both effective and equitable. BACKGROUND READING The Neurodiversity Podcast is on , , , and you’re invited to join our .
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Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria with Dr. Bill Dodson (Part 2)
02/05/2025
Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria with Dr. Bill Dodson (Part 2)
In the second of our powerful two-part conversation, Emily Kircher-Morris and Dr. William Dodson discuss the complexities of ADHD, emotional dysregulation and its subset, and Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria (RSD). He explains how RSD can manifest in ADHDers, the impact of childhood experiences, and the importance of understanding and treating these conditions. There is a need for updated diagnostic criteria and effective treatment strategies, including medication and supportive environments. They dig into the complexities of ADHD, including management strategies, and the importance of understanding the overlap between social anxiety and mood disorders. TAKEAWAYS Emotional dysregulation is often overlooked in ADHD diagnoses. RSD is a specific condition affecting many with ADHD. The emotional pain from RSD can be both emotional and physical, and can lead to significant life impairments. Childhood experiences can exacerbate RSD but are not the sole cause. Medication can be effective in managing emotional dysregulation. Understanding RSD is essential for clinicians working with ADHD patients. Preventative strategies are key in managing RSD episodes. Sleep, nutrition, structure, and routine play vital roles in emotional regulation. Social anxiety and rejection sensitivity can coexist but are distinct. The Emily mentions in her closing thoughts. The sign-up for a limited time, for the Neurodiversity University Educator Hub! Join a community of like-minded teachers, administrators, and advocates who are passionate about supporting neurodivergent kids. It's a welcoming space to share ideas that will help make your classrooms and school districts better places for all students. The Educator Hub is available via an app for your smartphone, or online through a browser. . Dr. Bill Dodson is a board-certified adult psychiatrist who has specialized in adults with Attention Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder for the last 27 years. In recognition of his clinical contributions to the field of ADHD he was named a Life Fellow of the APA in 2012. He was the 2006 recipient of the national Maxwell J. Schleifer Award for Distinguished Service to Persons with Disabilities. His contributions to the field of ADHD include: The only currently available methodology for the fine-tuning of ADHD medications. The concept of Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria and its treatment with medications. The first non-behavioral theory of what ADHD is and how it can be treated successfully with an emphasis on what goes right rather than what goes wrong. Dr. Dodson has a book for clinicians, patients, and parents on the practice of ADHD medicine coming out at the end of 2025. BACKGROUND READING
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Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria with Dr. Bill Dodson (Part 1)
01/30/2025
Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria with Dr. Bill Dodson (Part 1)
In part one of a two-part conversation, Emily Kircher-Morris and Dr. William Dodson discuss the complexities of ADHD, emotional dysregulation and its subset, and Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria (RSD). He explains how RSD can manifest in ADHDers, the impact of childhood experiences, and the importance of understanding and treating these conditions. There is a need for updated diagnostic criteria and effective treatment strategies, including medication and supportive environments. They dig into the complexities of ADHD, including management strategies, and the importance of understanding the overlap between social anxiety and mood disorders. TAKEAWAYS Emotional dysregulation is often overlooked in ADHD diagnoses. RSD is a specific condition affecting many with ADHD. The emotional pain from RSD can be both emotional and physical, and can lead to significant life impairments. Childhood experiences can exacerbate RSD but are not the sole cause. Medication can be effective in managing emotional dysregulation. Understanding RSD is essential for clinicians working with ADHD patients. Preventative strategies are key in managing RSD episodes. Sleep, nutrition, structure, and routine play vital roles in emotional regulation. Social anxiety and rejection sensitivity can coexist but are distinct. The for Educator Hub sign-up for a limited time, beginning January 31. Join a community of like-minded teachers, administrators, and advocates who are passionate about supporting neurodivergent kids. . Dr. Bill Dodson is a board-certified adult psychiatrist who has specialized in adults with Attention Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder for the last 27 years. In recognition of his clinical contributions to the field of ADHD he was named a Life Fellow of the APA in 2012. He was the 2006 recipient of the national Maxwell J. Schleifer Award for Distinguished Service to Persons with Disabilities. His contributions to the field of ADHD include: The only currently available methodology for the fine-tuning of ADHD medications. The concept of Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria and its treatment with medications. The first non-behavioral theory of what ADHD is and how it can be treated successfully with an emphasis on what goes right rather than what goes wrong. Dr. Dodson has a book for clinicians, patients, and parents on the practice of ADHD medicine coming out at the end of 2025. BACKGROUND READING
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New Podcast Alert: Creating Neurodiversity-Affirming Schools
01/20/2025
New Podcast Alert: Creating Neurodiversity-Affirming Schools
This week, we’re sharing the inaugural episode of the Creating Neurodiversity-Affirming Schools podcast! Today, hosts Emily Kircher-Morris and Amanda Morin introduce themselves, and talk about their new book, Neurodiversity-Affirming Schools: Transforming Practices So All Students Feel Accepted and Supported. This podcast is great as a learning tool on its own, and it's designed to align with the chapters of the book. It provides actionable insights, strategies, and inspiration for educators and parents. Emily and Amanda discuss their personal neurodivergent journeys, how they came to collaborate, and why neurodiversity is a vital topic for schools today. TAKEAWAYS The evolution of the neurodiversity movement and its roots in the autistic community. Understanding the terms "neurodiverse," "neurodivergent," and "neuro-normative." Why person-first vs. identity-first language matters and how to respect individual preferences. The importance of finding like-minded communities, and making small, yet meaningful shifts in educational practices. RESOURCES MENTIONED The Neurodiversity University Educator Hub: (Available for pre-order before January 21, 2025) We’re only days away from open registration for the Educator Hub! It’s a community of teachers and administrators who are working to build a better, more productive atmosphere for neurodivergent students. The hub includes Expert Q&A Webinars, one-on-one consultations with Emily Kircher-Morris, monthly Five-Minute PD videos, roundtable discussions, and open office hours chats. You’ll find resources that can be shared with your school’s staff, and great opportunities for continuing education credits. . Emily Kircher-Morris, M.A., M.Ed., LPC, is a Licensed Professional Counselor and a leading advocate for neurodiversity-affirming practices. Specializing in supporting neurodivergent individuals and their families, she combines her background as an educator with her clinical expertise to create inclusive strategies for fostering growth and resilience. Emily collaborates with schools and organizations to train educators and develop practices that support neurodivergent students. As an author, she provides valuable resources to help parents and educators nurture the strengths of neurodivergent youth, equipping them to thrive in all areas of life. Emily Kircher-Morris holds a Master of Arts in Education, a Master of Arts in Counseling, and is certified in elementary education, gifted education, and school counseling. Amanda Morin is a neurodivergent activist, award-winning author, early childhood specialist, and nationally known speaker dedicated to fostering accessible and inclusive environments for all individuals. With a background as a classroom teacher and early intervention specialist, she played an integral role in launching Understood.org in 2014 and served as its Director of Thought Leadership and Expertise. Amanda has authored six books, including "The Everything Parent’s Guide to Special Education" and "Adulting Made Easy." She holds a Bachelor of Science in Elementary Education from the University of Maine and has received special education advocacy training from the Council of Parent Attorneys and Advocates.
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Unraveling the Mysteries of Baffling Behaviors
01/17/2025
Unraveling the Mysteries of Baffling Behaviors
Emily Kircher-Morris and Robyn Gobbel, author of Raising Kids with Big, Baffling Behaviors, chat about those baffling behaviors, and how they can leave parents and teachers scratching their heads. It’s also important to understand how adults' emotions can affect how they react to kids' behavior, and why it's so important to create an environment that helps kids feel safe and connected. The conversation also includes some practical tips for parents and teachers about understanding baffling behaviors. It’s all on episode 254! TAKEAWAYS Baffling behavior requires deeper understanding rather than judgment. Trauma can significantly impact a child's nervous system and behavior. Co-regulation is essential for emotional support and development. Neurodivergent children often experience heightened sensitivity to stressors. Behavior is often a response to unmet needs or stress. Parents and educators should look for underlying triggers in behaviors. The brain-body sensory approach can help in managing behaviors. Children develop self-regulation through experiences of co-regulation. Behavior is often an attempt to find regulation. To be helpful co-regulators, adults must navigate their own emotional states. Reactions are often based on personal history, not just current conditions. Check out , a course for educators by Emily Kircher-Morris, in the Neurodiversity University. You’ll find a variety of courses available there as well, with more being added soon. Robyn Gobbel, MSW holds a Master of Social Work degree and specializes in relational neuroscience, trauma-informed care, and child development. She has dedicated her career to supporting helpers, healers, educators, and parents working with children impacted by trauma. Robyn has provided professional development workshops, keynote presentations, and ongoing educational resources for those seeking to better understand the intersection of brain science and behavior. She is the author of Raising Kids with Big, Baffling Behaviors: Brain-Body-Sensory Strategies that Really Work and the host of The Baffling Behavior Show podcast. Her work focuses on practical strategies for building connection, emotional regulation, and resilience in both children and caregivers. BACKGROUND READING The Neurodiversity Podcast is available on , , , and you can also join our private .
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Applying Neuroscience to Education
01/09/2025
Applying Neuroscience to Education
On our first episode of 2025, Emily Kircher-Morris welcomes Mind, Brain and Education expert Allison Posey, to discuss the importance of inclusive practices in education, focusing on Universal Design for Learning (UDL) and its application in classrooms. Allison shares her personal journey that led her to advocate for inclusive education, she and Emily discuss the need for understanding individual learning differences, and they talk about the role of emotions in learning. They also explore how neuroscience informs educational practices and necessitates shifting mindsets within educational systems to better support all learners. And, what is the impact of educational trauma on students? Takeaways Personal experiences shape advocacy for inclusive education. UDL aims to meet diverse learning needs from the start. Parents can play a crucial role in advocating for UDL. Neuroscience reveals the importance of emotions in learning. Educational trauma affects students' self-perception and learning. Technology can enhance access and engagement in learning. Learning should be viewed as a lifelong journey. Check out , a course for educators by Emily Kircher-Morris, in the Neurodiversity University. You’ll find a variety of courses available there as well, with more being added soon. Guest Allison Posey is an international leader for implementation of Universal Design for Learning. She works at CAST, where she collaborates to apply current understanding from brain research into innovative, equitable instructional practices. She taught a range of science courses in high school and community colleges, such as biology, genetics, anatomy, and psychology. She still teaches at Lasell University. Allison earned a degree in Mind, Brain, and Education from Harvard Graduate School of Education, and is the author of two books, Engage the Brain: How to Design for Learning that Taps into the Power of Emotion, and Unlearning: Changing Your Beliefs and Your Classroom with UDL. BACKGROUND READING
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Self-Regulation: A Guide for Educators and Parents
12/19/2024
Self-Regulation: A Guide for Educators and Parents
On episode 252, Dr. Richard Cash and Emily Kircher-Morris talk about the importance of self-regulation in education. They discuss the emotional, behavioral, and cognitive aspects, the critical role emotions play in learning, and the necessity of teaching metacognitive skills to students. It’s not only about school, they discuss parental support in developing self-regulation at home, and the unique needs of twice-exceptional learners. This is an updated version of an encore conversation. Takeaways Self-regulation consists of emotional, behavioral, and cognitive dimensions. Emotions significantly impact a child's ability to focus and learn. Metacognition involves reflecting on one's own thinking processes. Teaching kids to manage their feelings is crucial for learning. Parents should actively listen to their children to support self-regulation. Every child is unique, and teaching should reflect that individuality. Reflection time is often lacking in the school day. Homework should be reframed as home study to promote self-regulation. Get your just in time for the holiday season! Clinicians, check out , which can help you move toward a more neurodiversity-affirming therapy environment. Also, consider joining our , which will open for new members soon! The Neurodiversity Podcast is available on , , , and you can also join our private . For more information go to . Dr. Richard M Cash received a bachelor of arts degree in theater from the University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire. He then attended the University of Minnesota-Minneapolis, where he received a post-baccalaureate degree in elementary education. Dr. Cash later obtained a master’s degree in curriculum and instruction from the University of St. Thomas in St. Paul, Minnesota. He returned to St. Thomas and received a doctoral degree in educational leadership. Dr. Cash has served as the Administrator of Gifted Programs in Rochester, Minnesota, and the Director of Gifted Programs for the Bloomington Public Schools in Minnesota. He now provides workshops, presentations, and staff-development sessions throughout the United States, Europe, Asia and the Middle East. He’s the author of Self-Regulation in the Classroom: Helping Students Learn How to Learn. BACKGROUND READING
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