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The Sex and Spirit Connection
02/02/2025
The Sex and Spirit Connection
We’re back to explore the intricate relationship between spirituality and sexuality! We share our personal journeys, societal challenges, and the importance of integrating these aspects of identity to reframe how to view sexuality. We also delve into the complexities of desire, agency, and the political implications of sexual oppression. Shame and desire intertwine within theological contexts, which makes it all the more important to integrate one's faith with their sexual identity and experiences. There is an unmistakable sacredness to sexuality and it can lead to transcendent experiences. Takeaways Sexuality and spirituality can be integrated for deeper insights. The journey of understanding one's sexuality is often fraught with challenges. Desire is often suppressed by societal and religious narratives. Governments target sexual minorities to maintain control. Personal sexual healing is a form of political resistance. Communication about desires is crucial in relationships. Vulnerability is necessary for authentic connections. Queer joy and pleasure are vital, even in difficult times. The work on self can enhance community organizing efforts. Celebrating sexual autonomy is both personal and communal. The work of unhooking from shame is often theological. Desire and shame are deeply intertwined with spirituality. Our beliefs about bodies and sexuality shape our ethics. Integration of theology and ethics is crucial for a fulfilling life. Sexuality can be a pathway to experiencing the divine. The Bible contains rich sexual language that reflects divine relationships. Transcendence can be found in intimate connections with others. Experiences of sexuality can be sacred and holy. First sexual experiences can be meaningful in various ways. Gratitude for past experiences can lead to healing. Chapters (02:49) The Journey of Integrating Sexuality and Spirituality (06:00) Desire, Agency, and Control (08:52) Political Implications of Sexuality (11:55) Communication and Vulnerability in Relationships (15:11) The Intersection of Queerness and Spirituality (17:00) The Intersection of Sex, Shame, and Spirituality (19:52) Theological Contexts and Personal Experiences (25:47) Sexuality as a Path to Transcendence (30:04) Closing Reflections and Prayer Resources: Join the If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at
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The Danger of Shallow Forgiveness an interview with Kaya Oakes
01/26/2025
The Danger of Shallow Forgiveness an interview with Kaya Oakes
We’re happy to welcome return guest Kaya Oakes back to the podcast for this episode to talk about her new book, “Not So Sorry: Abusers, False Apologies, and the Limits of Forgiveness.” Kaya Oakes is a journalist and author of six books. Her essays and journalism have appeared in many publications. She is also a faculty member in the College Writing Programs at UC Berkeley, where she teaches creative nonfiction, composition, and research writing. In this conversation, Kaya Oakes discusses her multifaceted identity as a teacher, writer, and cancer survivor, while exploring themes of forgiveness, the writing process, and the complexities of social justice. She delves into the nuances of apologies, the importance of empathy, and the often weaponized nature of forgiveness in queer and trans communities. Kaya also shares insights from her new book, emphasizing the need for specificity in apologies and the interconnectedness of forgiveness, repentance, and reparations. Takeaways Kaya Oakes identifies as a teacher and writer with a focus on gender and health. Her writing is often driven by personal obsessions and societal issues. The writing process for Kaya is spontaneous and research-driven, often starting with a question. Research is woven into the writing process, helping to answer complex questions. Forgiveness can be weaponized, especially in queer and trans communities. A good apology requires specificity and acknowledgment of harm done. Empathy is crucial for genuine forgiveness and understanding. Theological insights reveal that forgiveness is often oversimplified in Christian contexts. Forgiveness, repentance, and reparations are interconnected but often misunderstood. Finding joy in small things, like pets, can be a source of comfort. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Background of Kaya Oakes 03:00 Writing Process and Creative Obsessions 05:59 Research and Writing Balance 08:56 Exploring the Theme of Forgiveness 11:58 The Complexity of Forgiveness in Queer and Trans Communities 15:05 Understanding Apologies and Their Impact 17:56 The Role of Empathy in Forgiveness 20:54 Theological Insights on Forgiveness 23:56 Untangling Forgiveness, Repentance, and Reparations 26:54 The Importance of Specificity in Apologies 29:57 Finding Joy in Everyday Life Resources: Previous episodes with Kaya Oakes: Interview episode with Rabbi Danya Ruttenberg: by Kaya Oakes Learn more about Kaya at Join the If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at
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Shame-Sex Attraction with Lucas Wilson
01/19/2025
Shame-Sex Attraction with Lucas Wilson
We are joined by author @lukeslamdunkwilson for this podcast episode to talk about his journey from being a former evangelical to a queer academic. Dr. Lucas Wilson is a SSHRC Postdoctoral Fellow at University of Toronto Mississauga, formerly the Justice, Equity, and Transformation Postdoctoral Fellow at University of Calgary. He is the editor of Shame-Sex Attraction: Survivors’ Stories of Conversion Therapy. He is currently working on two interrelated monograph projects that examine evangelical homophobia and transphobia in the U.S. discussing the intertwining of his faith and queer identity. In this conversation, he delves into the history and reality of conversion therapy, emphasizing the ongoing struggles faced by survivors. Lucas also reflects on the motivation behind his book, contrasting his academic work with personal narratives, and highlights common themes such as shame and secrecy in the stories of conversion therapy survivors. Our discussion aims to raise awareness about the continued existence of conversion therapy practices, despite legal prohibitions. Lucas also highlights the importance of sharing queer stories and finding hope beyond the struggles faced in high-control religious environments. Takeaways Luke identifies as an ex-vangelical and conversion therapy survivor. His academic work focuses on queer history and the New Christian Right. Conversion therapy is often misunderstood as only occurring in specific settings. The term 'conversion practices' encompasses a broader range of experiences. Many queer individuals have undergone some form of conversion practices. Shame is a central theme in the experiences of conversion therapy survivors. Secrecy and silence are prevalent in the narratives of those affected. Luke's book aims to shed light on the ongoing reality of conversion therapy. The collection includes diverse stories from various queer identities. Despite legal bans, conversion therapy practices continue to exist underground. Conversion therapy is a complex issue with many personal stories. Shame can persist even after leaving high-control religious groups. Academia can provide a space for critical thinking and self-discovery. Understanding Christian theology is essential to grasping US politics. The influence of evangelicalism on contemporary issues is significant. Stories of conversion therapy survivors often highlight resilience and hope. Not all stories have neat, happy endings; discomfort is part of the journey. Community support is crucial for those recovering from conversion therapy. Future projects aim to amplify queer voices and experiences. Personal joy can be found in simple pleasures, like enjoying grapes. Chapters (02:27) Faith and Queer Identity Intertwined (08:42) Understanding Conversion Therapy (12:51) The Motivation Behind the Book (15:30) Contrasting Academic and Personal Narratives (17:49) Common Themes in Conversion Therapy Stories (22:08) The Ongoing Reality of Conversion Therapy (23:07) The Impact of Conversion Therapy (25:37) Shame and Self-Reflection (26:07) Academic Awakening and Relearning (30:20) The Role of Christian Theology in History (31:52) Understanding Evangelical Influence on Politics (38:41) Finding Hope Beyond Conversion Therapy (43:27) Future Projects and Community Engagement Resources: Follow Lucas on social media: IG: @lukeslamdunkwilson Threads: @lukeslamdunkwilson X/Twitter: @wilson_fw LinkedIn: TikTok: @lukeslamdunkwilson Facebook: Join the If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at
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Taking Another Look at Paul: An Interview with John Dominic Crossan
01/12/2025
Taking Another Look at Paul: An Interview with John Dominic Crossan
We’re excited to have return guest, John Dominic Crossan, on the pod this week to talk about his new book, “Paul the Pharisee: A Vision Beyond the Violence of Civilization.” We discuss the importance of matrix as a tool for understanding the context and background of texts and why that is so important when we look at Paul. Crossan emphasizes the role of metaphor in shaping our lives and how dismissing metaphor as less than literal impacts our theology. He explores the differences between ascension and resurrection and why they matter. He talks about how his book explores this distinction between ascension and resurrection, emphasizing the importance of focusing on the community of the human race rather than privileged individuals. Takeaways Understanding the context and background of texts is crucial for interpreting and applying ancient documents to new situations. Paul's significance and importance can be better understood by placing him in the historical and cultural context of the Roman Empire. Metaphor plays a powerful role in shaping our lives and creating reality. It is important to be aware of the metaphors we live by and their implications. Ascension and resurrection are two different concepts. Ascension is about special privilege for an individual, while resurrection is about the liberation of the human race from death. The Easter images in Western and Eastern Christian traditions depict different understandings of resurrection, with the Eastern tradition emphasizing the liberation of the human race. The focus should be on the community of the human race rather than privileged individuals. The evangelical conception of salvation should shift towards caring for the world and recognizing the role of evolution in running the world. Paul's belief in resurrection shaped the behavior and community of early Christians. Reading Paul in the context of Roman imperial theology and studying Virgil's Aeneid can provide a better understanding of the New Testament. Paul's vision of cosmic justice and the implications of evolution are relevant for our world today. Chapters (04:03) Reevaluating Paul: Importance and Significance (11:14) The Power of Metaphor in Shaping Reality (14:37) Ascension vs. Resurrection: Different Concepts (24:28) Easter Images: Western and Eastern Perspectives (29:18) Focusing on the Community of the Human Race (30:28) Challenging the Evangelical Conception of Salvation (31:31) Recognizing the Role of Evolution in Running the World (33:47) Taking Responsibility for the World (35:12) Paul's Vision of Resurrection and Cosmic Justice (44:52) Understanding Paul in the Context of Roman Imperial Theology (52:39) The Relevance of Paul's Vision of Cosmic Justice and Evolution Resources: by John Dominic Crossan Join the If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at
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Judaism Unbound Interview
01/05/2025
Judaism Unbound Interview
A while back, we sat down with the hosts of the podcast, Judaism Unbound. So for this episode, we’re sharing that interview with y’all! In this interview, we talk about how to queer theology, share some of our favorite bible stories and discuss how to do this work well. We also touch on how other theologies, religions, and faith practices can enrich and impact our lives in a deeply meaningful way. Resources: Learn more and join the course Listen to the Join the If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at
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Exploring Spirituality Through Storytelling with Marques Hollie
12/29/2024
Exploring Spirituality Through Storytelling with Marques Hollie
Brian interviews Marques Hollie for this episode of the podcast. Marques Hollie (they/he), is an operatically-trained vocalist, ritual leader, and theatre-maker, who has been telling and singing stories for as long he can remember. Following a course of study in homiletics, liturgy, Torah exegesis, and the canon of Jewish stories, Marques received ordination as a Maggid (sacred storyteller). Currently, he is a student at the Reconstructionist Rabbinical College. Marques shares his journey as a queer clergy person who intertwines storytelling with spirituality. They discuss their experiences of coming out, exploration of faith, and how these elements have shaped their identity. We delve into the power of personal narratives, the significance of storytelling in understanding sacred texts, and the broader implications of these stories in personal transformation and community connection. Takeaways Marques identifies as a queer clergy person who merges storytelling and music. The journey of queerness and faith is deeply intertwined for Marques. Storytelling can reveal deeper meanings in sacred texts. Personal narratives allow individuals to see themselves in larger stories. Queer sacred storytelling offers unique perspectives on tradition. The process of conversion to Judaism can be lengthy and reflective. Storytelling is a powerful tool for personal transformation. Everyone lives within their own stories, regardless of profession. Understanding the agendas behind texts can reshape our interpretations. Connection to sacred texts can be found through personal experiences. Midrash offers a possibility for diverse interpretations. Storytelling is a powerful tool for connection and education. Claiming one's identity can transform personal and professional paths. The journey to becoming a rabbi can be unexpected and profound. Interfaith relationships challenge traditional boundaries in Judaism. Jewish leadership is evolving to be more inclusive. Creative energy thrives in liminal spaces of transition. Engaging with art and literature can deepen spiritual understanding. The importance of community in navigating personal journeys. Finding joy in simple pleasures can be a source of strength. Chapters (02:58) The Journey of Queerness and Faith (05:57) Exploring the Intersection of Storytelling and Spirituality (09:03) The Power of Personal Narratives (11:58) Queer Sacred Storytelling and Its Impact (15:02) Finding Connection in Sacred Texts (18:01) The Role of Storytelling in Personal Transformation (20:54) The Broader Implications of Storytelling (23:58) Conclusion and Reflections on Storytelling (31:03) Exploring Midrash and Queer Perspectives (32:40) The Art of Storytelling in Jewish Tradition (35:14) The Journey to Rabbinical Identity (39:58) Navigating Interfaith Relationships and Rabbinical School (45:05) The Evolution of Jewish Leadership (49:45) Finding Joy in Liminal Spaces and Creative Energy Resources: Learn more about Marques Hollie at Join the If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at
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Imagining New Worlds an interview with Eliot Schrefer
12/22/2024
Imagining New Worlds an interview with Eliot Schrefer
In this conversation, we speak with author, Eliot Schrefer, about his journey as a writer. We discuss his identity, influences, and the importance of queer representation in literature. He delves into his latest book, 'The Brightness Between Us,' and reflects on the creative process of adapting stories for film. Eliot emphasizes the significance of storytelling in providing hope and connection for LGBTQ+ youth, while also expressing his determination to keep producing this much needed content in the face of pushback from groups that want to ban books. Takeaways Eliot's journey to writing was influenced by his mother's struggles as a writer. He discovered his passion for writing later in life after realizing it was his true calling. Young adult literature often lacked representation of LGBTQ+ experiences during Eliot's youth. Eliot's latest book explores themes of love and identity in a sci-fi setting. The creative process involves drawing inspiration from various sources while creating something original. Queer representation in literature is crucial for the mental health of LGBTQ+ youth. Eliot's work has been positively received, with a growing demand for LGBTQ+ narratives. The adaptation of his book into a film is an exciting opportunity for broader reach. Eliot believes in the power of stories to provide hope and connection. He continues to be inspired by the need for inclusive narratives in today's world. Chapters (00:00) Introduction to Eliot and His Journey (02:57) Eliot's Path to Becoming a Writer (06:01) Influences and Inspirations in Young Adult Literature (09:05) Exploring Eliot's Latest Book: *The Darkness Outside* (12:05) The Creative Process: From Inspiration to Storytelling (14:53) The Importance of Queer Representation in Literature (17:48) Adapting Books for Film: The Journey Ahead (20:46) Finding Joy and Inspiration in Writing (24:05) Closing Thoughts and Future Connections Resources: Preorder n Us by Eliot Schrefer Learn more about Eliot Schrefer at Join the If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at
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Queer Affirming Therapy an interview with Ann Russo
12/15/2024
Queer Affirming Therapy an interview with Ann Russo
We’re joined by Ann Russo, a queer therapist, who shares her journey of growing up in a queer household and navigating the complexities of identity, religion, and acceptance. She discusses the challenges faced by LGBTQ individuals in religious spaces, the importance of support systems, and the impact of religious trauma. Ann emphasizes the need for therapists to be transparent and knowledgeable about LGBTQ issues and offers insights into finding the right therapist. Our conversation highlights stories of transformation and the significance of intergenerational relationships within the queer community. Takeaways Ann Russo identifies as a queer therapist passionate about the intersection of identity, trauma, and spirituality. Growing up in a queer household in the 80s was challenging due to societal prejudice and fear of violence. Ann initially resisted her queerness, wanting to 'pray the gay away' until she embraced her identity in high school. Religion was not a positive force in Ann's upbringing, leading to curiosity about its teachings later in life. Ann immersed herself in conservative Christian spaces to understand the messaging against LGBTQ individuals. The transition from fear to acceptance involved social justice activism and creating safe spaces for LGBTQ youth. Religious trauma can create barriers for LGBTQ individuals seeking acceptance in progressive religious spaces. Support systems, including chosen family and older queer mentors, are crucial for healing and acceptance. Finding a therapist who understands the intersection of queerness and religion is essential for LGBTQ individuals. Transformation stories highlight the resilience of LGBTQ individuals and the importance of community support. Chapters (00:00) Introduction to Queer Identity and Therapy (03:02) Growing Up in a Queer Household (05:47) The Intersection of Religion and Queerness (09:01) Navigating Religious Spaces as a Queer Person (12:00) Transitioning from Fear to Acceptance (15:03) Understanding Religious Trauma (17:54) The Importance of Support Systems (21:13) Finding a Therapist for LGBTQ Issues (23:56) Stories of Transformation (27:10) The Role of Intergenerational Relationships (30:06) Closing Thoughts and Resources Resources: Learn more about Ann Russo’s work at Accessible therapy at Join the If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at
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The Importance of Visibility An Interview with Chris Tompkins
12/08/2024
The Importance of Visibility An Interview with Chris Tompkins
In this interview, author, advocate, and therapist Chris Tompkins shares his personal journey of self-discovery as a gay man raised in a religious environment. He discusses the challenges of reconciling his identity with his faith, the impact of religious trauma, and the importance of awareness in parenting to support LGBTQ+ children. Chris talks about why he wrote his book, “Raising LGBTQ Allies,” and emphasizes the need for open conversations and practical strategies for parents to create a supportive environment for their kids, ultimately leading to a more inclusive society. Takeaways Chris was raised in a religious family with conflicting beliefs. He experienced religious trauma and internalized homophobia. His coming out journey was deeply intertwined with love and acceptance. Chris emphasizes the importance of awareness in parenting. Parents can inadvertently perpetuate fear-based associations. Books and open conversations can help educate children. Creating safe spaces for discussions is crucial. Understanding societal messages is key to supporting LGBTQ+ kids. Chris's book aims to help parents change harmful narratives. Healing from religious trauma is a journey that requires introspection. Chapters (02:40) Chris's Journey of Self-Discovery (10:13) Reconnecting with Faith and Spirituality (16:32) Understanding Religious Trauma (22:30) The Importance of Awareness in Parenting (27:54) Supporting LGBTQ+ Kids: Practical Strategies (35:00) Conclusion and Resources Resources: Learn more at by Chris Tompkins Join the If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at
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The Cool Christians an Interview Jeff Hiller (Somebody Somewhere)
12/01/2024
The Cool Christians an Interview Jeff Hiller (Somebody Somewhere)
We’re kicking off our winter guest series with an interview with Jeff Hiller, a hilarious actor and comedian in NYC, best known for his role as Joel in the Peabody Award-winning HBO show ‘Somebody Somewhere.’ If you haven’t watched this show yet, be sure to check it out! In this conversation, Jeff Hiller discusses his role in the show, exploring themes of authenticity, community, and the intersection of queerness and faith. Jeff reflects on his character Joel, who navigates life in a small town while fostering connections and grappling with personal ethics. We talk about the evolution of queer representation in media and the importance of finding joy in everyday moments. Takeaways 'Somebody Somewhere' is about authenticity and real life. Joel's character reflects the complexities of queerness in small towns. Faith in the show is portrayed as a source of community, not oppression. The journey of faith for Joel is more about ethics than belief. Jeff's personal experiences shaped his understanding of community and queerness. The representation of queer characters has evolved significantly in media. There is a need for more diverse queer representation on screen. Joy can be found in simple, everyday moments. The show challenges traditional portrayals of faith and queerness. Community and kindness are central themes in both the show and Jeff's life. Chapters (00:00) Introduction to Jeff Hiller and Somebody Somewhere (02:49) Exploring Joel's Character and Authenticity (06:03) Faith, Community, and Queerness in Small Towns (09:03) The Journey of Faith and Ethics (11:59) Personal Experiences with Queerness and Community (15:03) The Evolution of Queer Representation on Screen (18:03) Joy in Everyday Life and Closing Thoughts Resources: Follow Jeff on IG @boomboomhiller Watch Season 3 of on HBO Join the If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at
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The Misunderstood Mystical Meaning of Advent
11/24/2024
The Misunderstood Mystical Meaning of Advent
As we head into the Christmas season, we invite y’all to really explore the meaning and significance of Advent. There is so much richness and depth to this tradition and (especially now!) it is a moment to reflect on what our role in this world is. We discuss the themes of waiting, anticipation, and introspection that characterize this season, as well as the importance of recognizing the realities of the world and dreaming of a better future. There is so much potential for personal and communal transformation during Advent. Takeaways Advent is a time of preparation leading up to Christmas. It involves themes of waiting, anticipation, and introspection. Advent invites us to reflect on what is not working in the world. The season encourages dreaming about justice and peace. Rituals during Advent help make visible what is not yet tangible. Advent is a liminal space for personal and communal transformation. The end of the year is a time for intention setting and reflection. Queering Advent allows for a deeper connection to spirituality. The journey through Advent can be inclusive for all backgrounds. Community engagement during Advent enhances the experience. Chapters (00:00) The Significance of Advent (10:12) Advent as a Time for Reflection and Introspection (18:11) Queering the Advent Experience Resources: Join the and be part of our Queering Advent event and Rewrite Your Story are both on-demand workshops available in If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at
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How To Handle Fraught Situations
11/17/2024
How To Handle Fraught Situations
It’s that time of year when we often see family and need to navigate complex family dynamics. During the holiday season, this is particularly true for queer individuals. We talk about the importance of setting boundaries, and the necessity of prioritizing personal comfort over traditional expectations. We’re big proponents of self-care! And that can definitely look like setting clear boundaries that make you feel safe and happy during a time that can be fraught with anxiety and discomfort. Takeaways The holiday season can evoke feelings of angst and anxiety for many individuals, especially around family dynamics. Setting firm boundaries can help mitigate holiday-related stress. Even after coming out, feelings of discomfort around family can persist. Juggling multiple family traditions can increase holiday stress. It's important to prioritize personal comfort over traditional expectations during the holidays. Choosing to spend the holidays in a way that feels good is not selfish. Self-care and introspection are crucial during the holiday season. It's okay to not participate in family traditions that feel uncomfortable. Small changes can lead to a more positive holiday experience. The process of navigating family dynamics is ongoing and requires experimentation. Chapters (00:00) Navigating Family Dynamics During the Holidays (05:59) The Impact of Identity on Family Interactions (11:01) Choosing Personal Comfort Over Tradition (14:52) Self-Care and Reflection During the Holiday Season Resources: Join the and be part of our Queering Advent event and Rewrite Your Story are both on-demand workshops available in If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at
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The Messy Scandal of Ruth
11/10/2024
The Messy Scandal of Ruth
We’re queering the Book of Ruth in this episode of the Queer Theology Podcast. And y’all, this one can get really scandalous! We delve into its themes of agency, chosen family, and the complexities of tradition. Then we also discuss how the narrative can be interpreted through a queer lens, highlighting the scandalous elements often sanitized in traditional readings. Sometimes you gotta engage with scripture in a way that acknowledges the messiness and complexities to really get to the good stuff! As we head into Advent, this can be a time of deep reflection and looking at scripture through a queer lens can be a liberating practice. Takeaways The Book of Ruth contains themes of agency and vulnerability. Ruth's actions can be seen as scandalous yet empowering. Chosen family is a significant aspect of the narrative. The story challenges traditional interpretations of relationships. Sanitizing scripture does a disservice to its complexity. Queer readings of scripture can reveal deeper meanings. Tradition is often rooted in messy and complicated stories. Engaging with scripture requires acknowledging its messiness. Community journeys can enhance spiritual reflection. Advent offers a time for introspection and preparation. Chapters (00:00) Introduction and Context of the Conversation (01:12) Exploring the Book of Ruth (03:30) Queering the Text: Scandal and Agency (06:56) Chosen Family and Queer Relationships (11:51) The Messiness of Tradition and Scripture (15:35) Invitation to Engage with Scripture (16:42) Queering Advent: A Community Journey Resources: Join the and be part of our Queering Advent event If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at
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huddled together after the election
11/07/2024
huddled together after the election
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Remembering Who We Come From
11/03/2024
Remembering Who We Come From
It’s that time of year again when we have celebrations around remembrance and death. In this episode, we delve into the themes of death, remembrance, and the significance of rituals during this reflective time of year. We explore the meanings behind All Saints Day and All Souls Day, the importance of honoring those who have passed, and how queer communities have created their own rituals of remembrance. We share some of our own personal experiences of grief and loss and how rituals have been a resource of comfort for us. As we head into the upcoming Advent season, we’re going to really dive into the intention behind rituals! Takeaways Death and remembrance are significant themes during this time of year. All Saints Day honors officially canonized saints, while All Souls Day remembers all who have died. The veil between worlds is considered thin during this season, prompting reflection. Trans Day of Remembrance highlights violence against the trans community. Queer and trans individuals often create their own rituals to honor their community. Remembering our lineages and communities is essential for personal growth. Grief can be navigated through intentional remembrance and community support. Rituals do not have to be complicated; simple acts can hold great meaning. Advent offers a time for reflection and intention in our lives. Creating personal rituals can help in processing grief and loss. Chapters (00:00) Exploring Death and Remembrance (04:42) Queering All Saints and All Souls Day (07:53) The Importance of Lineage and Community (10:52) Navigating Grief and Loss (14:55) Rituals for Remembering and Healing (18:41) Advent: A Time for Intention and Reflection Resources: Join the and be part of our Queering Advent event If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at
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Healing When It's Hard
10/27/2024
Healing When It's Hard
The process of healing is a journey. And with a journey, you have to be willing to take the time to do what feels comfortable for you, but also push yourself. In this episode, we discuss the journey of healing, particularly in the context of coping with emotional challenges. We explore the importance of taking things slowly, the role of storytelling in healing, and the necessity of reflection after experiences. You gotta make the time for reflection and self-care! For us, journaling has been a sustainable practice to work through discomfort that helps lead to long-term emotional well-being. Takeaways Healing is a journey, not a race. It's important to go slowly in the healing process. Stories shape our understanding of spiritual practices. Redefining success can help in the healing journey. Discomfort can be a part of growth. Reflection helps us learn from our experiences. Give yourself time to process and heal. You can push yourself, but know your limits. Journaling can provide clarity and understanding. Sustainable practices are key for long-term healing. Chapters (0:00) The Journey of Healing and Coping (7:15) Navigating Discomfort and Growth (14:56) Reflection and Learning from Experiences (22:42) Sustainable Practices for Long-Term Healing Resources: Register for the journaling workshop, Join the If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at
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The Stories That Shape Us
10/20/2024
The Stories That Shape Us
In this conversation, we explore the profound impact of storytelling on personal identity, community building, and cultural narratives. We discuss how stories have been a fundamental part of human experience, shaping self-perception and fostering connections and community among individuals. It’s super important to craft your own personal narrative because of the transformative power of sharing those stories with others. Whether it’s a coffee chat with friends or delivering a sermon, having a well crafted story can make a huge difference. Takeaways Stories are deeply human and have been told since ancient times. The narratives we internalize shape our self-perception and values. Storytelling can change hearts and minds more effectively than facts alone. Personal stories can foster community and connection, especially in marginalized groups. Crafting narratives is essential for effective communication and social justice advocacy. Everyone has a story, and storytelling is a universal human experience. The act of storytelling helps us make sense of our lives and experiences. Writing for oneself is a vital step before sharing stories publicly. Workshops can help individuals refine their storytelling skills and discover impactful narratives. Journaling can serve as a grounding practice for personal reflection and narrative development. Chapters (0:00) The Power of Stories in Human Experience (3:51) Personal Connections Through Storytelling (9:21) The Role of Storytelling in Community Building (15:04) Crafting Personal Narratives for Impact (18:40) Journaling and Storytelling Workshop Introduction Resources: Register for the journaling workshop, Join the If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at
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Rewrite Your Story
10/13/2024
Rewrite Your Story
If you’ve been around for a while, you probably already know how valuable we think having a journaling practice is. Like, we can’t recommend it enough! There is just something about getting your thoughts down on paper without any fear of judgment and really letting it all out. In this episode, we delve into the transformative practice of journaling and discuss our personal journeys with journaling. We can’t emphasize enough its importance for mental health, self-reflection, and clarity! Feeling stuck on where to start a journaling practice? We have an upcoming workshop, Rewrite Your Story, that’ll help to get you started! Takeaways Journaling can be a powerful tool for self-reflection and mental health. It's okay to journal sporadically; consistency isn't the only measure of success. Finding a journaling method that works for you is essential. Journaling can help clarify what you want in various aspects of life. It's important to create a safe space for unfiltered expression in journaling. Journaling can reveal patterns in your thoughts and behaviors over time. Starting with small, manageable journaling practices can lead to growth. You don't need fancy materials to start journaling; just begin where you are. Journaling can help process emotions and experiences during tough times. The act of journaling can aid in rewriting negative narratives about oneself. Chapters (00:34) The Importance of Journaling (12:04) Personal Journeys with Journaling (24:05) Practical Tips for Effective Journaling (30:09) Rewriting Your Story Through Journaling Resources: Register for the journaling workshop at www.queertheology.com/rewrite Join the If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at
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Spirituality Outside of Boxes: Listener Q&A
10/06/2024
Spirituality Outside of Boxes: Listener Q&A
In this episode, we address listener questions about navigating faith, family dynamics, and spirituality outside of traditional Christian frameworks. We discuss the challenges faced by LGBTQ+ individuals in maintaining relationships with non-affirming family members while prioritizing their own mental health and identity. We also get into a question about spirituality and encourage y’all to explore how to cultivate a sense of spirituality and community beyond traditional faith practices. Takeaways It's important to prioritize your own mental health and wellness. Surround yourself with affirming voices during deconstruction. Setting boundaries with family can help maintain your mental health. You deserve to be treated with respect and affirmation. Finding community outside of traditional religious spaces is crucial. Engaging in service and community work can fulfill spiritual needs. Creating personal spiritual practices is essential for connection. Rituals and actions can help cultivate a sense of the divine. Community support is vital during times of spiritual transition. You are not alone in your journey of faith and identity. Resources: Ask your own question to be featured on the podcast at Soul Safe workshop: Rituals Workshop: Join the If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at
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Cruising For God: Queering Jacob
09/29/2024
Cruising For God: Queering Jacob
We’re gonna revisit our roots of this podcast for this episode by queering the Bible! Specifically, the passage we explore is from Genesis, the story of Jacob wrestling with God. We discuss the significance of this passage in relation to queer identities, gender narratives, and how you can bring yourself to your own interpretation of scripture. Our conversation highlights the importance of personal experiences in understanding biblical texts and emphasizes the role of journaling as a spiritual practice. We encourage y’all to read this passage and reflect on what this passage brings up for YOU! Takeaways The Bible did not originally have chapters and verses. Jacob's story illustrates the holiness of wrestling with faith. Wrestling with God can be seen as a trans narrative. The Bible can continually surprise and teach us new things. Personal experiences shape our interpretations of scripture. Queer theology allows for diverse interpretations of biblical texts. Journaling can enhance our understanding of the Bible. Engaging with the Bible requires vulnerability and curiosity. The intersection of sexuality and spirituality is significant. Each person's interpretation of scripture is valid and valuable. Chapters (02:58) Wrestling with God: The Story of Jacob (05:59) Gender Narratives in Jacob's Story (09:03) The Bible as a Living Text (12:04) Sexuality and Spirituality in Non-Monogamy (15:02) Diverse Interpretations of Scripture (17:53) The Power of Journaling in Spiritual Practice Resources: by Shannon TL Kearns Join the If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at
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John Green asks “why religion?” We answer
09/22/2024
John Green asks “why religion?” We answer
Recently, John Green posted a YouTube preview for “Crash Course Religions.” Since this is something we are really passionate about (also Brian is a huge fan!), we answer his question, ‘Why religion?’ in this episode. We also discuss what it means to be a religious person and explore the idea that everyone worships something, whether it's a traditional religion or something else that guides their lives. It’s about what you infuse with meaning that can turn it sacred and holy! We’ve been talking a lot about the importance of being intentional in practices and rituals and this is another example of why it is so important. We invite you to also cultivate a deeper sense of connection to the sacred in your life. Takeaways Religion is not limited to traditional religious institutions; everyone worships something that guides their lives. Being intentional about our practices and rituals is important, regardless of our religious identification. Queer experiences and LGBTQ+ community events can be seen as sacred and have religious significance. Cultivating a deeper sense of connection to the sacred in our lives can bring meaning and purpose. Chapters (0:38) Brian's confession: Being a "nerdfighter" (1:14) Crash Course series on religion and its relevance (3:36) Helping LGBTQ+ folks heal from religious harm (5:21) The idea of worship and its broader meaning (9:32) Importance of replacing old beliefs with new intentional stories (17:00) Queerness as holy and sacred practices in queer culture (22:03) Encouragement to practice intentional rituals and find meaning Resources: by John Green online course Join the If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at
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Habits For Changing Seasons
09/15/2024
Habits For Changing Seasons
This time of year is a great time to do a bit of reflection and in this episode, we discuss the importance of taking time in the fall to reevaluate and reconnect with what matters to us. Taking this time for reflection, introspection, and planning for the future can be a great way to really look at what you want to keep and what you want to change moving into the end of the year. We share our personal experiences and discuss the significance of rituals, boundaries, and forgiveness in this process. The most important part of this is being intentional and gentle with yourself while engaging in this self-reflection. Takeaways Fall is a time for reflection, introspection, and planning for the future. Taking time to reevaluate and reconnect with what matters to us is important. Rituals, boundaries, and forgiveness play a significant role in this process. Being intentional and gentle with oneself is crucial while engaging in self-reflection. Chapters (00:00) Reconnecting and Reflecting in the Fall (11:27) The Importance of Rituals and Boundaries (18:10) Navigating Forgiveness and Making Amends (24:43) Being Intentional and Gentle with Oneself Resources: - devotional available on Amazon.com Join the If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at
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Love is a Verb
09/08/2024
Love is a Verb
We’re gonna get into the concept of love and what it means to love well in this episode. We explore the idea that love is not just a feeling or a word, but an action that requires intentionality and commitment. We have to challenge the societal norms of prioritizing romantic relationships and biological families over other types of relationships. It is also so important to show up for others, by being intentional in our actions, and creating systems to support our relationships. Takeaways Love is not just a feeling or a word, but an action that requires intentionality and commitment. Societal norms often prioritize romantic relationships and biological family over other types of relationships, but it is important to challenge and question these norms. Showing up for others and being intentional in our actions are key aspects of loving well. Creating systems and using tools like calendars and reminders can support our relationships and help us remember important dates and commitments. Polyamory wisdom can offer valuable insights and practices for all types of relationships, including monogamous ones. Clear communication, time management, and intentional living are essential for building and maintaining healthy and loving relationships. Chapters (00:35) Exploring the Concept of Love (03:40) Challenging Societal Norms (06:06) Being Loved Well and Loved Poorly (11:10) Love Beyond Traditional Family Structures (14:28) Prioritizing Relationships and Denigrating Friendships (18:27) Love as Action and the Importance of Systems (21:20) Intentionality and Upending Norms (24:13) The Role of Systems in Loving Well (26:18) Synergies Between Poly Wisdom, Faith, and Love (29:37) Being Intentional and Explicit in Relationships (33:19) Using Tools and Systems to Support Love (35:27) Polyamory Wisdom for All Relationships (35:48) Clear Communication, Time Management, and Intentional Living Resources: Join the Poly Possibilities course at Join the If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at
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Undoing Shame
09/01/2024
Undoing Shame
Shame is a huge part of culture and we discuss the role of shame in sex and relationships, particularly in relation to purity culture, and the political repercussions of shame. We explore the historical context of shame, such as the Lavender Scare and the rise of the religious right, and how shame has been used as a tool for control and manipulation. There is such an importance to understanding shame as a systemic and political issue, rather than just a personal emotion. But there is power and resistance in self-acceptance and combating shame by embracing our desires and bodies! Takeaways Shame can be a powerful tool for control and manipulation, and it is important to recognize the political and systemic implications of shame. Understanding the historical context of shame, such as the Lavender Scare and the rise of the religious right, helps to shed light on its origins and effects. Embracing one's desires and bodies, and resisting societal shame, can be an act of resistance and self-acceptance. Creating a supportive community and engaging in open conversations about shame and desires can be healing and empowering. Chapters (03:01)The Political Repercussions of Shame (06:53) Unpacking the History of Shame and Purity Culture (12:09) Resisting Shame: Embracing Desires and Bodies (15:04) Creating a Supportive Community to Combat Shame Resources: Join the Poly Possibilities course at Join the If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at
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Poly Possibilities
08/25/2024
Poly Possibilities
In this conversation, we discuss the intersection of polyamory, spirituality, and faith. We explore why monogamous individuals should care about polyamory, the importance of integrating spirituality and non-monogamy, and how polyamory can inspire new ways of structuring relationships and the world. We also get into the need for proactive positive messages to counteract shame and negative societal messages and highlight the importance of community, family, and intentional living. What would it look like to expand and imagine more expansive and inclusive possibilities for our relationships AND communities? Takeaways Polyamory can offer valuable lessons in communication, intentionality, and dealing with difficult emotions like jealousy, which can benefit monogamous individuals as well. Integrating spirituality and non-monogamy is important to counteract shame and negative societal messages, and to define the goodness of polyamory on its own terms. Polyamory invites us to expand our notions of community and family, and to imagine more inclusive and just ways of structuring relationships and the world. It is important to find spaces where we can bring our whole selves, integrate different aspects of our identities, and cultivate connections with others who share our values. Polyamory challenges us to question societal expectations and consider alternative ways of living and relating, fostering a sense of intentionality and joy in our lives. Chapters (01:26) Why Monogamous Individuals Should Care About Polyamory (08:52) Integrating Spirituality and Non-Monogamy (19:00) Expanding Notions of Community and Family (25:19) Creating Spaces for Wholeness and Integration (27:39) Imagining New Possibilities for Relationships and the World Resources: Join the Poly Possibilities course at Rituals for Resistance & Resilience part of Join the If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at
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Listening to the Wisdom of Your Body
08/18/2024
Listening to the Wisdom of Your Body
In this episode, we discuss the importance of listening to the wisdom of our bodies. Really tuning in and paying attention to what your body is trying to tell you. We explore how societal messages of sex negativity and shame can lead to a disconnection from our bodies, and how reclaiming that connection can be a powerful act of resistance. It is so important to recognize the significance of joy and pleasure in our lives to fuel our activism! Takeaways Societal messages of sex negativity and shame can lead to a disconnection from our bodies, but it is important to reclaim that connection and listen to the wisdom of our bodies. Reconnecting with our bodies and embracing pleasure and joy is a powerful act of resistance against societal control and manipulation. Tuning into our bodies' signals and sensations can help us set boundaries, navigate difficult relationships, and prioritize self-care. Joy and pleasure are essential in our lives and in our activism, as they provide the foundation for a positive future and create resilience in the face of challenges. Joining courses like Poly Possibilities and communities like Sanctuary Collective can provide support and resources for exploring these topics further. Chapters (03:58) Poly Possibilities Course: Exploring the Intersections of Polyamory and Spirituality (08:29) Listening to the Wisdom of Our Bodies: Overcoming Sex Negativity and Shame (13:12) Tuning into Body Signals: Setting Boundaries and Prioritizing Self-Care (20:24) The Power of Joy and Pleasure in Activism (25:39) Joy as a Form of Resistance: Creating a Positive Future (28:59) Join the Poly Possibilities Course and Sanctuary Collective for Support and Exploration Resources: Rituals for Resistance & Resilience part of Join the
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Cultivating Curiosity [Listener Question]
08/11/2024
Cultivating Curiosity [Listener Question]
We’re answering a listener question on the podcast this week: Have you always been so open minded? And if you haven't, what was it that made you become this way? Not only do we answer this question but we discuss the importance of curiosity and open-mindedness in ALL aspects of life. We share their personal experiences of how we were able to cultivate curiosity and the role it has played in our journeys of self-discovery and growth. One thing that is so important is the need for courage to stay open to new ideas and perspectives, even when it challenges our beliefs. We’ve also got some practical tips on how to cultivate curiosity and how you can work on being more open to the world around you. Takeaways Curiosity and open-mindedness are important for personal growth and self-discovery. Cultivating curiosity requires courage to challenge our beliefs and be open to new ideas and perspectives. Reading books and engaging with longer-form content are effective ways to explore new topics and expand our knowledge. Starting with low-stakes topics can help build the muscle of curiosity before diving into more complex issues. Curiosity grounded in joy and connection is vital in an increasingly complex and interconnected world. Chapters (07:34) The Role of Courage in Challenging Beliefs (13:25) Unhooking from Fear and Indoctrination (19:45) Practical Tips for Cultivating Curiosity (27:27) The Importance of the Micro and Connection (32:26) Curiosity Grounded in Joy and Connection Resources: Get curious at Ask your own question at Join the If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at .
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Unlearning and Relearning
08/04/2024
Unlearning and Relearning
In this conversation, Brian and Shannon discuss the theme of unlearning and relearning. They share personal experiences and insights on the process of unlearning harmful beliefs and embracing new perspectives. They touch on topics such as masculinity, the fear of not being accepted by God, and the concept of abundance in Christianity. The conversation emphasizes the importance of self-reflection and the ongoing journey of unlearning and relearning. Takeaways Unlearning involves identifying and challenging harmful beliefs and perspectives that have been ingrained in us. The process of unlearning and relearning is ongoing and requires self-reflection and intentional effort. Masculinity and societal expectations can shape our beliefs and understanding of ourselves. It is important to question and redefine these notions. The fear of not being accepted by God or facing eternal damnation can be a source of anxiety for LGBTQ+ individuals. It is important to explore alternative interpretations of religious teachings. Abundance in Christianity is not about material excess, but about experiencing joy, love, and liberation in all aspects of life. Unlearning and relearning involves letting go of guilt, shame, and fear, and embracing a more inclusive and compassionate understanding of faith and spirituality. Chapters (10:24) Unlearning and Relearning: Challenging Harmful Beliefs (13:43) Redefining Masculinity: Breaking Free from Societal Expectations (15:07) Finding Acceptance: Overcoming Fear and Doubt (29:24) The Ongoing Journey: Embracing Unlearning and Relearning Resources: Join the If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at .
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Holding Space with Avra Shapiro
07/28/2024
Holding Space with Avra Shapiro
Avra Shapiro (they/them) joins us for a fantastic conversation about God this week. Avra is a queer Jewish mystic and freelance Kohenet and discusses their journey to becoming a Kohenet. Avra shares their understanding of God as an ever-flowing source of support and the importance of cultivating a personal relationship with the divine, especially by using different names for God. Avra explains how exploring the power of using different names for God can unlock new perspectives and connections. They emphasize the importance of finding queer teachers and communities that resonate with your own experiences and desires to deepen this connection. Avra encourages listeners to engage in spiritual practices that connect them to something bigger than themselves and bring joy and grounding to their lives. Takeaways Cultivating a personal relationship with the divine is crucial and can bring support, grounding, and life-enhancing experiences. Using different names for God can unlock new perspectives and connections, allowing for a more personal and intimate relationship. Finding queer teachers and communities that resonate with your experiences and desires is important for spiritual growth and healing. Engaging in spiritual practices that connect you to something bigger than yourself can bring joy, grounding, and a sense of rootedness. Exploring the teachings and wisdom of different traditions can help reclaim and make them your own, while also acknowledging and addressing the harms of patriarchy and colonization. Chapters (05:10) Avra's Journey to Becoming a Kohenet (10:22) Creating Space for the Divine to Come In (15:16) Understanding God and Using Different Names (39:33) Finding Queer Teachers and Communities (44:36) Addressing Harm and Reclaiming Traditions Resources: Join the If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at .
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Queer Country Femme Ministry with Rev. Jes Kast
07/21/2024
Queer Country Femme Ministry with Rev. Jes Kast
We’ve known Rev. Jes Kast for a long time now and it was an absolute pleasure to have her on the pod this week talking queer, country, femme ministry! Jes is a minister of word and sacrament in the United Church of Christ and shares her journey of faith and queerness in this conversation. She discusses her upbringing in a conservative Christian environment and her deep connection to her identity as a queer femme. Jes emphasizes the importance of faith in her life and how it has shaped her understanding of herself and her role as a pastor. Jes reflects on her transition from big city femme to rural queer life and the sense of community she has found in her small town. Jes discusses the beauty and challenges of living in central Pennsylvania and the importance of community and care in small town life. She emphasizes the need to recognize the complexities and realities of both small town and big city life, and to avoid idealizing or romanticizing either. Takeaways Faith played a significant role in Rev Jes Kast's upbringing, and she found comfort and strength in her belief in a benevolent God. Jes's journey of self-discovery as a queer femme led her to embrace her identity and find joy in expressing herself through fashion and artistry. As a pastor, Jes values the opportunity to journey with people through important moments in their lives and create meaningful rituals. Jes's transition from big city femme to rural queer life has allowed her to reconnect with her small town roots and find a sense of community and safety. Central Pennsylvania is often overlooked and misunderstood, but it has its own unique beauty and interesting people. Small town life is more communal and caring, with a greater reliance on each other. Living in a rural community as an out queer clergy comes with its challenges, but also a deep sense of respect and support. Preaching in a small town requires a different approach, focusing on the realities and concerns of the community. It's important to recognize the complexities and realities of both small town and big city life, and to avoid idealizing or romanticizing either. Visibility and representation are important, especially in rural areas where there may be fewer queer role models. Finding joy in the presence of sapphic farmers and connecting with the history and spirituality of figures like Hildegard von Bingen. Creating spaces for reflection and connection, such as an echo monastery, can bring joy and a sense of peace. Chapters (03:06) Exploring Identity as a Queer Femme (06:01) The Role of Faith in Jes's Upbringing (08:01) The Intersection of Faith, Femme, and Fashion (13:28) Embracing Queerness and Finding Strength in Faith (25:03) Small Town Faith and Queerness (27:34) The Communal and Caring Nature of Small Town Life (32:13) Navigating the Challenges of Being an Out Queer Clergy (36:02) Preaching with Honesty and Authenticity in a Small Town (43:21) Recognizing the Complexities of Small Town and Big City Life (45:17) The Importance of Visibility and Representation in Rural Areas (47:41) Finding Joy in the Presence of Sapphic Farmers (52:36) Creating Spaces for Reflection and Connection: The Echo Monastery Resources: Learn more at Follow Jes on Instagram at @revjeskast Join the If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at .
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