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Throwback: Scary Things 07/06/2025

Post Shame & Sacred Intimacy with Adam MacLean 06/29/2025

Post Shame & Sacred Intimacy with Adam MacLean We’re joined on the podcast this week by Adam MacLean (@adammacattack) who is the founder of PostShame.org and #PostShame, online tools designed to help people examine their past for things they worry might leak on the internet, and then proactively share those stories themselves. By doing so, they transform these stories into narratives of strength and leadership, offering support to others struggling with similar challenges. He is also the host of the podcast “Find Your Light with Adam MacLean”, where he navigates difficult conversations around shame, leadership, and self-acceptance. In these discussions, Adam integrates his expertise in holding space for others, helping listeners work through challenges related to the body, mind, and spirit—particularly within the realms of sacred intimacy. In this conversation, Brian and Adam delve into the complexities of shame, particularly within the LGBTQ community. They explore the concept of post-shame, the impact of the internet on personal narratives, and the distinction between guilt and shame. Adam shares his personal journey, including his experiences with spirituality and 12-step programs, and how these intersect with his queerness. The discussion also touches on the significance of rituals in creating meaning and community, culminating in reflections on marriage and personal transformations. In this conversation, Adam and Brian explore the complexities of shame, relationships, and the impact of online culture on personal identity. They discuss the PostShame process, which helps individuals confront their pasts and navigate the challenges of public scrutiny. The dialogue delves into the nuances of sexuality, consent, and the importance of context in conversations about intimacy. They also touch on the experiences of men in today's society, the distinction between erotic and pornographic expressions, and the significance of gender affirmation in personal journeys. Takeaways Dissolving shame is essential for self-acceptance. The internet amplifies the experience of shame. Guilt is about actions, while shame is about self. Community plays a crucial role in healing from shame. Rituals can help create meaning in our lives. Personal narratives can be transformed through sharing. Spirituality can be redefined outside traditional structures. Queerness and theology can coexist harmoniously. Self-expression is a radical act of love. Marriage can mark a significant shift in relationships. We can only make commitments in our relationships. Online shaming is not evenly distributed. The PostShame process helps individuals reclaim their narratives. Navigating shame involves understanding context and consent. Sexuality and shame are often intertwined in complex ways. The distinction between erotic and pornographic is crucial. Healing can involve somatic practices and intimacy. Men often struggle with loneliness and connection. Trans experiences challenge traditional notions of gender. Dissolving shame is a shared mission for many. Chapters 03:05 – The Birth of Post-Shame and Personal Journey 07:11 – Understanding Guilt vs. Shame 10:09 – The Role of the Internet in Shaming 11:45 – Revisiting 12-Step Programs and Spirituality 14:55 – The Intersection of Queerness and Theology 19:19 – Rituals and Their Significance in Community 21:57 – Personal Reflections on Marriage and Rituals 31:46 – Interrogating Language and Relationships 33:14 – Moving Beyond Shame 34:28 – The PostShame Process 36:46 – The Impact of Online Shaming 38:07 – Navigating Sexuality and Shame 39:40 – Context and Consent in Conversations 42:46 – The Distinction Between Erotic and Pornographic 47:34 – Sacred Intimacy and Healing 50:27 – Male Loneliness and Connection 56:12 – Trans Experiences and Gender Affirmation Resources:. Learn more about Adam at Join our online community at If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at /episode/index/show/queertheology/id/37158320

Throwback: Queerness Is A Cornerstone 06/22/2025

Throwback: Queerness Is A Cornerstone We're doing something that we haven't done in awhile here which is to have a throwback episode for this week. We're coming up on a huge milestone- 600 episodes!- and there's probably a lot of episodes that some of y’all have not heard and we think that revisiting the Bible has power because you learn new things. So for this episode, we’ll revisit Queerness as a Cornerstone. This episode is filled with so much good stuff and we’re excited for you to dive in. We have a listener question from Bella about how to talk about your faith without making other people uncomfortable. How do we disconnect sharing our faith from some people’s ideas about evangelising people. We also queer this week’s passage from 1 Peter 2:2-10. We talk about what it means and feels like to be nourished by God’s word and how the experience of queerness and transness can be a touchpoint for the entire church. So stay tuned and enjoy this episode. In this episode, we talk about: Brian talks about learning Danish and cooking Fr. Shay talks about cooking monstastic soups Shout out to a new Patreon supporter A question from Bella about how to talk about your faith Fr. Shay talks about the pressure to evangelize that he grew up with Brian shares about how progressive folks sometime move too far in the other direction Fr. Shay talks about disconnecting sharing from conversion Invitation to Sanctuary Collective We queer a text from 1 Peter 2:2-10 Brian talks about the joy of being nourished by God’s Word Fr. Shay talks about what it means to taste that the Lord is good Brian delves into the power of learning to trust your body Fr. Shay talks about the power of those rejected to build something incredible Resources:. Join our online community at If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at /episode/index/show/queertheology/id/36965405

Tips for Churches at Pride 06/15/2025

Tips for Churches at Pride Pride brings out many people trying to show their support for the LGBTQ+ community and an interesting conversation about how churches show up at Pride inspired this week’s episode. In this conversation, we explore the role of churches supporting and engaging with the LGBTQ community during Pride Month. We have some practical insight on how churches can show genuine involvement, service, and inclusivity, while showing up meaningfully at Pride events and beyond. Takeaways Pride Month is celebrated globally, creating a sense of connection among queer individuals. Churches should actively participate in Pride events to show support for the LGBTQ community. Involvement should be led by queer and trans individuals within the church community. Churches must avoid centering themselves and instead focus on the needs of the queer community. Aesthetic presentation at Pride events matters; churches should invest in their displays. Service and support should be prioritized over recruitment at Pride events. Churches can provide tangible support, such as water stations for marchers. Engagement with the queer community should extend beyond Pride Month. Ongoing education and training are essential for creating inclusive church environments. Churches should explore diverse ways to incorporate queer culture into their programming. Chapters (00:56) Churches and Their Role in Pride Events (04:00) Guiding Principles for Religious Groups at Pride (07:08) Tangible Support and Service to the Queer Community (10:02) Engaging with the Community Beyond Pride Month (12:59) Creating Inclusive Spaces Year-Round (15:56) Ongoing Education and Awareness for Inclusivity (19:10) Broader Engagement with Queer Culture (22:07) Building Lasting Relationships with the Community Resources:. Join our online community at If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at /episode/index/show/queertheology/id/36964685

Complicated Communities 06/08/2025

Celebration & Resistance: Let's Talk About Pride Month! 06/01/2025

Queering Prayer 05/25/2025

We Need a Nap 05/18/2025

We Need a Nap Besides just being BUSY at the moment, we’re both feeling the anxiety of the daily current news. And it is exhausting, y’all. So, yes, while we do need a good nap, we also get into the themes of rest, self-care, and community engagement amidst the challenges of modern life in this episode. There is a tension between the need for personal rest and the demands of activism, and as with most things in life, it is important to find balance. We also talk about the value of micro rituals in daily life, even if they are much more micro than you would like them to be. We're holding another round of the Queerness Every Day Challenge and it’s a great opportunity for folks to participate in small, meaningful practices that connect queerness and spirituality, especially amidst the busyness! Takeaways Both hosts express a shared feeling of being emotionally and spiritually drained. The conversation highlights the importance of self-care amidst life's demands. There is a tension between the need to rest and the need to engage in activism. Marginalized individuals often have less ability to rest due to survival pressures. Quality engagement with community can be more rejuvenating than passive consumption. Micro rituals can help maintain connection to spirituality and self-care. The busier one is, the more they need to engage in self-care practices. Finding a minimum viable ritual can help maintain spiritual practices during busy times. Community connections are vital for emotional support and rejuvenation. The Queerness Every Day Challenge encourages small, meaningful daily practices. Chapters (07:18) Balancing Self-Care and Activism (13:28) Quality Engagement vs. Passive Consumption (19:27) Micro Rituals for Daily Life (22:27) The Queerness Every Day Challenge Resources:. Join our online community at If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at /episode/index/show/queertheology/id/36480335

Grief, Demons, Agnostics at Church: Listener Q&A 05/11/2025

Grief, Demons, Agnostics at Church: Listener Q&A We tackle a series of questions from listeners on this week’s episode! The questions focus on the intersection of faith, identity, and community for LGBTQ+ individuals. We discuss the challenges faced by transgender individuals in church settings, the misconceptions surrounding sin and sexuality, the experiences of agnostics in religious spaces, and the nuanced understanding of the Holy Spirit in the lives of queer individuals. We also get into grief, demons and the importance of personal agency and community in navigating these topics. Takeaways No, it's not a sin and you're not going to hell. Conservative views often equate same-gender relationships with addiction. It's important to find an affirming community. God didn't make a mistake in creating trans individuals. We co-create our identities with God. Agnostics are welcome in many progressive churches. Defining God can vary greatly among individuals. Community and rituals can be meaningful without belief in God. The Holy Spirit's role is often misunderstood in evangelicalism. The working of the spirit is a mystery, not a certainty. Activism can inspire students to take action and create change. Transcendence can be felt in everyday experiences, such as dance and community. The concept of demons and possession is often tied to mental health and societal issues. Rituals can provide comfort and connection in times of grief. Praying for the departed can be a personal and meaningful practice. Understanding the historical context of spiritual beliefs is crucial. Personal agency should not be undermined by the concept of demonic influence. Grief is a non-linear process that requires compassion and understanding. Community support is vital in navigating spiritual and emotional challenges. Rituals can help honor the memory of loved ones and facilitate healing. Chapters (1:04) Agnostics and Their Place in Church (8:21) Navigating Church as a Transgender Individual (15:57) The Role of the Holy Spirit in LGBTQ+ Lives (26:05) Exploring the Concept of Demons and Possession (31:28) Praying for the Departed: Grief and Rituals Resources: Want to submit a question? Go to to submit your own. Join our online community at If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at /episode/index/show/queertheology/id/36325610

Maybe Doubting Thomas Was The Only Reasonable One 05/04/2025

Putting Women Back In The Story with Rev. Dr. Wil Gafney 04/27/2025

Putting Women Back In The Story with Rev. Dr. Wil Gafney We’re honored to have religious scholar, preacher, teacher, and activist, Rev. Dr. Wil Gafney on the pod this week. Rev. Dr. Gafney is a biblical scholar whose work focuses on translation of the scriptures for congregations and lay readers, womanist and feminist biblical interpretation and women who prophesied in ancient Israel and the ancient Afro-Asiatic world and their reception in rabbinic literature. She is the author and translator and wrote “Womanist Midrash: A Reintroduction to Women of the Torah and of the Throne” and its sequel, “Womanist Midrash: A Reintroduction to Women of Joshua Judges, Samuel and Kings.” She co-edited “The Peoples’ Bible” and “The Peoples’ Companion to the Bible.” Dr. Gafney is an Episcopal priest canonically resident in the Diocese of Pennsylvania and licensed in the Diocese of Texas and a former Army chaplain and congregational pastor in the AME Zion Church. Her lectures and sermons are widely sought after in academic and Jewish and Christian congregational spaces in the US and in the UK. In this conversation, Dr. Gaffney discusses the Womanist Midrash project, exploring the intersection of womanism and biblical interpretation. She emphasizes the importance of context in understanding scripture, the role of translation, and the significance of centering marginalized voices in religious narratives. Dr. Gaffney also introduces the Women's Lectionary project, which aims to highlight women's stories in the biblical text, and addresses the challenges of biblical illiteracy in contemporary faith communities. Takeaways Midrash fills the spaces between the letters and gaps in the story. Womanism is invested in the wellbeing of the entire community. Biblical interpretation is not just about facts but about the stories that shape identity. Translation is inherently interpretative and should be approached with awareness. The Queen of Sheba's story reveals the richness of shared religious traditions. Understanding context is crucial for interpreting biblical texts. The Women's Lectionary project aims to center women's voices in scripture. Marginalized voices enrich the understanding of biblical narratives. Biblical illiteracy can be addressed through guided reading programs. Engaging with scripture can be both devotional and academic. Chapters (00:00) Introduction to Womanist Midrash (03:03) The Intersection of Womanism and Midrash (06:04) The Role of Translation in Biblical Interpretation (09:06) Exploring Biblical Stories: The Queen of Sheba (11:54) Understanding Context in Biblical Narratives (14:56) The Women's Lectionary Project (17:56) The Impact of Centering Marginalized Voices (20:59) Navigating Biblical Illiteracy (23:56) Conclusion and Resources Resources: Learn more about Rev. Dr. Wil Gafney at by Rev. Dr. Wil Gafney Join our online community at If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at /episode/index/show/queertheology/id/36110460

The Revolution Starts Here 04/20/2025

Exclusive First Look at "No One Taught Me How To Be A Man" 04/13/2025

Cry it Out with Rev. Ben Perry 04/06/2025

Cry it Out with Rev. Ben Perry This week we are joined by Rev. Benjamin Perry on the podcast. Benjamin is author of “Cry, Baby: Why Our Tears Matter,” and an award-winning writer. His work focuses on the intersection of religion and politics. They hold a degree in psychology from SUNY Geneseo and a Masters of Divinity from Union Theological Seminary. He is married to Erin Mayer, they live in Maine with his brother and best friend. They are the editor of the Queer Faith photojournalism series, curator of an art exhibit by the same name, and a passionate advocate for building Church that lives into God’s blessed queerness. His two proudest achievements are skydiving with his grandmother and winning first prize in his seminary drag show. In this conversation, Benjamin discusses their journey as a queer minister and author, exploring the intersections of queerness, spirituality, and social justice. They share insights on the importance of emotional expression, particularly through crying, and the need for progressive voices in the face of rising Christian nationalism. The discussion also delves into Benjamin's book, which examines the cultural stigma around crying and advocates for a world where emotional vulnerability is embraced. We explore the multifaceted nature of crying, discussing its physiological and social implications, the shame surrounding masculinity and emotional expression, and the intersection of queerness and vulnerability. Benjamin emphasizes the importance of grief and emotional balance in a world filled with anger and anxiety, advocating for a deeper understanding of our emotional lives and the connections they foster. Takeaways I have to come out as queer and Christian. I joke that I professionally fight with evangelicals. Crying is a deeply human experience. We need more prophetic voices. The answer to hypocrisy can't be silence. I didn't cry for more than a decade. What would a world shaped by more open weeping look like? I made myself cry every day for months. I became a person who cried more easily. We need to create moral clarity. Crying serves as a physiological release and a social signal. Emotional tears contain higher concentrations of stress-related proteins. Crying can create unexpected connections between individuals. Public crying often invites empathy rather than judgment. Shame around crying is often rooted in societal norms and expectations. Men experience a double shame regarding their emotional expression. Crying can be a radical act of vulnerability and authenticity. Grief is a natural response to love and loss. Balancing grief and anger is essential for emotional health. Crying can be a deeply queer act, challenging societal norms. Chapters (01:56) Introduction to Benjamin Perry (04:54) Spiritual Journey and Queerness (15:10) Intersection of Religion and Politics (27:15) Exploring the Book 'Cry Baby' (32:55) The Complexity of Crying (36:00) Crying as a Connection Tool (44:59) Crying and Queerness (51:00) Grief, Rage, and Emotional Balance Resources: Learn more about Rev. Benjamin Perry at by Rev. Benjamin Perry Join our online community at If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at /episode/index/show/queertheology/id/35854655

Failing At Gender 03/30/2025

The Power to Change Our Story with Elizabeth Jarrett Andrew 03/23/2025

The Power to Change Our Story with Elizabeth Jarrett Andrew We’re joined by author Elizabeth Jarrett Andrew (@elizabethjarrettandrew) on the podcast this week. Elizabeth is the author of “Swinging on the Garden Gate: A Memoir of Bisexuality & Spirit” and the chapbook, “A Map to Mercy,” due out in 2025. She is also the author of three books on writing. She is a founding member of The Eye of the Heart Center for Creative Contemplation, where she teaches writing as a transformational practice and hosts an online writing community. In this engaging conversation, Elizabeth shares her journey as a queer contemplative Christian and how her spiritual path intertwines with her identity and creative work. She discusses the importance of spiritual direction in her personal growth, the practice of rewriting one's narrative, and the role of creativity in spiritual exploration. Elizabeth emphasizes the value of community and rituals in tapping into creative energy, and offers insights on how anyone can approach writing as a spiritual practice, regardless of their perceived creative abilities. We totally agree with Elizabeth’s understanding that there is power in creativity and personal practices in fostering change in a complex world. Takeaways Identifying as a queer contemplative Christian shapes my worldview. Coming out is a lifelong process of spiritual growth. Spiritual direction provides a safe space for exploration. Rewriting our narratives is essential for personal integrity. Creativity is a fundamental aspect of the spiritual journey. Rituals help connect with creative and spiritual energy. Writing can be a private, transformative practice. The process of writing is often more important than the product. Community support is vital for spiritual and creative growth. Sharing personal stories requires discernment and care. Be intentional about who you share your writing with. Writing is a process that requires multiple drafts. Our identities are multi-dimensional and complex. Revising our stories adds depth and richness. The journey of publishing can be challenging yet rewarding. Sexuality can be a sacred aspect of our identity. Faith and sexuality can coexist harmoniously. We are interconnected and part of a larger community. Creativity is essential in times of uncertainty. Personal practices can lead to meaningful change. Chapters (03:18) Exploring Queerness and Spirituality (07:20) The Role of Spiritual Direction in Personal Growth (10:38) Rewriting Your Narrative: A Spiritual Practice (14:36) Creative Work as a Spiritual Journey (16:43) Rituals for Tapping into Creativity (19:27) Writing as a Spiritual Practice for Everyone (23:20) The Process of Sharing Your Story (30:42) Swinging on the Garden Gate: A Memoir of Identity (34:18) The Journey of Publishing and Reissuing a Memoir (39:08) Sexuality as a Seat of Sacred Knowing (42:06) Faith and Identity: Lessons from Bisexuality (45:00) The Next Horizons of Queerness and Faith (47:57) The Power of Creativity in Challenging Times Resources: Learn more about Elizabeth Jarrett Andrew and her work at Be part of the workshop, The Politics of Jesus by joining the If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at /episode/index/show/queertheology/id/35586705

The Politics of Jesus 03/16/2025

Turning Pain Into Glitter with Jamie Kushner Blicher 03/09/2025

Turning Pain Into Glitter with Jamie Kushner Blicher We’re joined this week by Brian’s longtime friend, inspirational artist, and glitter enthusiast, Jamie Kushner Blicher. Jamie started creating mixed-media pieces in high school and continued to do so throughout her college years at New York City’s Fashion Institute of Technology. She creates abstract pieces by filling the same tool that brings many families hope and rainbow babies with ink (sterile IVF needles). Since 2016, Jamie has been using her art to help bring calm and happiness to others who have gone through, or are still going through, their infertility journeys. In this conversation, Jamie shares her journey through infertility and how it led her to create art as a form of therapy. She discusses the importance of community, the power of creativity, and how her experiences have shaped her artistic process. Jamie emphasizes the significance of sharing stories and supporting one another through difficult times. Takeaways Art can serve as a powerful form of therapy. Creativity allows for personal expression and healing. Community support is essential during challenging times. Sharing stories can foster connection and understanding. Different experiences should be embraced, not stigmatized. Finding joy in small things can help navigate tough situations. Art can be a medium for honoring difficult journeys. It's important to let those facing challenges lead the conversation. Creating art can be a meditative and freeing process. The future of art can focus on specific communities and needs. Chapters (00:35) Who is Jamie Kushner Blicher? (06:15) Art as Therapy: The IVF Journey (09:40) The Power of Art and Community (11:10) Navigating Parenthood and Art, and Channeling Stories Through Art (14:40) Spirituality and Community Support (20:45) The Artistic Process (23:13) Sharing Art and Personal Stories (27:40) Future Aspirations for Glitter Enthusiast (32:22) Messages for Those Facing Fertility Challenges (36:24) Connecting with Jamie and Closing Thoughts Resources: Website: IG - @glitterenthusiast Join the If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at /episode/index/show/queertheology/id/35422265

Roundup: Reading, Watching, Writing, Listening 03/02/2025

It Comes Back to Community: An Interview with R. Scott Okamoto 02/23/2025

It Comes Back to Community: An Interview with R. Scott Okamoto We’re joined this week by R Scott Okamoto who is a writer and musician from Los Angeles. He is passionate about AAPI identity and politics, fly fishing, sex and sexuality, cooking, and religious deconstruction. Scott is the creator and host of the Chapel Probation Podcast and the author of Asian American Apostate: Losing Religion and Finding Myself at an Evangelical University. In this conversation, Scott shares his transformative journey from a conservative evangelical upbringing to becoming an advocate for LGBTQIA students at Azusa Pacific University. He discusses the challenges of deconstructing his faith, the importance of community support, and the impact of evangelical culture on identity. Scott emphasizes the need for critical thinking and openness in navigating personal beliefs and experiences. He discusses his journey of deconstruction from evangelicalism, the importance of community and storytelling, and the challenges of addressing systemic issues like racism within Christianity. He emphasizes the need for ongoing personal growth and the role of music and creative expression in finding joy and connection after leaving religious spaces. Takeaways Scott grew up in a conservative evangelical environment. His journey of deconstruction began after meeting LGBTQIA individuals. He became an advocate for LGBTQIA students at APU. Community support was crucial for students facing rejection. Evangelical culture often perpetuates harmful ideologies. Deconstruction is a complex and personal process. Critical thinking is often discouraged in evangelical settings. Sharing personal stories can foster understanding and empathy. Navigating faith and identity can be challenging for many. It's important to embrace knowledge and openness in personal growth. Once you start moving, it's hard to stop. Finding community is essential for continued growth. Deconstruction is not just a personal journey but a communal one. Storytelling can be a powerful tool for healing and connection. Christianity has a significant racism problem that needs addressing. Building relationships with diverse communities is crucial. It's important to engage in uncomfortable conversations. Music can be a source of joy and connection after deconstruction. Creative projects can help explore complex topics like sexuality. Acknowledging suffering in others can lead to deeper understanding and empathy. Chapters (03:56) Journey of Deconstruction at APU (07:22) Community and Support for LGBTQIA Students (13:21) The Impact of Evangelical Culture on Identity (16:01) Navigating Deconstruction and Its Challenges (21:10) Encouraging Critical Thinking and Openness (28:12) Final Thoughts and Reflections (29:04) Navigating Deconstruction and Personal Growth (31:10) The Challenge of Moving Beyond Evangelicalism (33:27) Finding Community in Deconstruction (37:44) The Power of Storytelling and Connection (42:35) Addressing Racism in Christianity (47:51) Future Projects and Creative Endeavors Resources: by R Scott Okamoto Learn more about Scott at Join the If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at /episode/index/show/queertheology/id/35332265

From Shame To Pride 02/16/2025

From Shame To Pride In this episode, we delve into the complexities of sex positivity within a spiritual context. We explore the damaging messages received from religious institutions regarding sexuality, the impact of purity culture, and the ongoing journey of self-discovery and healing. Our conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding one's own desires, navigating shame, and fostering a community that embraces sex positivity. We also get into practical steps for healing and the significance of embodying a positive relationship with one's body and sexuality. Takeaways The conversation highlights the absurd messages about sex from religious backgrounds. Purity culture can create lasting shame and confusion around sexuality. It's essential to differentiate between healthy attraction and harmful lust. Healing from sexual shame is an ongoing process that requires self-reflection. Community support is vital in navigating sexual and spiritual journeys. Understanding one's own values around sex is crucial for personal growth. Sex positivity can coexist with spirituality in a healthy way. The impact of societal norms on individual sexual expression is profound. Engaging in open conversations about sex can help dismantle shame. Embodying a positive relationship with one's body is essential for overall well-being. Chapters (02:31) Exploring Church Messages on Sex (06:31) The Impact of Purity Culture (10:21) Navigating Shame and Sexuality (14:35) Understanding Lust and Attraction (18:30) Positive Experiences and Community (22:36) The Ongoing Journey of Self-Discovery (26:36) Practical Steps for Healing and Growth (30:26) Becoming a Beacon of Sex Positivity (34:42) The Interconnection of Body and Sexuality Resources: Join the workshop: Join the If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at /episode/index/show/queertheology/id/35268890

Taking The Sting Out Of Paul (Colossians 3:1-17) 02/09/2025

The Sex and Spirit Connection 02/02/2025

The Sex and Spirit Connection We’re back to explore the intricate relationship between spirituality and sexuality! We share our personal journeys, societal challenges, and the importance of integrating these aspects of identity to reframe how to view sexuality. We also delve into the complexities of desire, agency, and the political implications of sexual oppression. Shame and desire intertwine within theological contexts, which makes it all the more important to integrate one's faith with their sexual identity and experiences. There is an unmistakable sacredness to sexuality and it can lead to transcendent experiences. Takeaways Sexuality and spirituality can be integrated for deeper insights. The journey of understanding one's sexuality is often fraught with challenges. Desire is often suppressed by societal and religious narratives. Governments target sexual minorities to maintain control. Personal sexual healing is a form of political resistance. Communication about desires is crucial in relationships. Vulnerability is necessary for authentic connections. Queer joy and pleasure are vital, even in difficult times. The work on self can enhance community organizing efforts. Celebrating sexual autonomy is both personal and communal. The work of unhooking from shame is often theological. Desire and shame are deeply intertwined with spirituality. Our beliefs about bodies and sexuality shape our ethics. Integration of theology and ethics is crucial for a fulfilling life. Sexuality can be a pathway to experiencing the divine. The Bible contains rich sexual language that reflects divine relationships. Transcendence can be found in intimate connections with others. Experiences of sexuality can be sacred and holy. First sexual experiences can be meaningful in various ways. Gratitude for past experiences can lead to healing. Chapters (02:49) The Journey of Integrating Sexuality and Spirituality (06:00) Desire, Agency, and Control (08:52) Political Implications of Sexuality (11:55) Communication and Vulnerability in Relationships (15:11) The Intersection of Queerness and Spirituality (17:00) The Intersection of Sex, Shame, and Spirituality (19:52) Theological Contexts and Personal Experiences (25:47) Sexuality as a Path to Transcendence (30:04) Closing Reflections and Prayer Resources: Join the If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at /episode/index/show/queertheology/id/35024455

The Danger of Shallow Forgiveness an interview with Kaya Oakes 01/26/2025

The Danger of Shallow Forgiveness an interview with Kaya Oakes We’re happy to welcome return guest Kaya Oakes back to the podcast for this episode to talk about her new book, “Not So Sorry: Abusers, False Apologies, and the Limits of Forgiveness.” Kaya Oakes is a journalist and author of six books. Her essays and journalism have appeared in many publications. She is also a faculty member in the College Writing Programs at UC Berkeley, where she teaches creative nonfiction, composition, and research writing. In this conversation, Kaya Oakes discusses her multifaceted identity as a teacher, writer, and cancer survivor, while exploring themes of forgiveness, the writing process, and the complexities of social justice. She delves into the nuances of apologies, the importance of empathy, and the often weaponized nature of forgiveness in queer and trans communities. Kaya also shares insights from her new book, emphasizing the need for specificity in apologies and the interconnectedness of forgiveness, repentance, and reparations. Takeaways Kaya Oakes identifies as a teacher and writer with a focus on gender and health. Her writing is often driven by personal obsessions and societal issues. The writing process for Kaya is spontaneous and research-driven, often starting with a question. Research is woven into the writing process, helping to answer complex questions. Forgiveness can be weaponized, especially in queer and trans communities. A good apology requires specificity and acknowledgment of harm done. Empathy is crucial for genuine forgiveness and understanding. Theological insights reveal that forgiveness is often oversimplified in Christian contexts. Forgiveness, repentance, and reparations are interconnected but often misunderstood. Finding joy in small things, like pets, can be a source of comfort. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Background of Kaya Oakes 03:00 Writing Process and Creative Obsessions 05:59 Research and Writing Balance 08:56 Exploring the Theme of Forgiveness 11:58 The Complexity of Forgiveness in Queer and Trans Communities 15:05 Understanding Apologies and Their Impact 17:56 The Role of Empathy in Forgiveness 20:54 Theological Insights on Forgiveness 23:56 Untangling Forgiveness, Repentance, and Reparations 26:54 The Importance of Specificity in Apologies 29:57 Finding Joy in Everyday Life Resources: Previous episodes with Kaya Oakes: Interview episode with Rabbi Danya Ruttenberg: by Kaya Oakes Learn more about Kaya at Join the If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at /episode/index/show/queertheology/id/34957490

Shame-Sex Attraction with Lucas Wilson 01/19/2025

Shame-Sex Attraction with Lucas Wilson We are joined by author @lukeslamdunkwilson for this podcast episode to talk about his journey from being a former evangelical to a queer academic. Dr. Lucas Wilson is a SSHRC Postdoctoral Fellow at University of Toronto Mississauga, formerly the Justice, Equity, and Transformation Postdoctoral Fellow at University of Calgary. He is the editor of Shame-Sex Attraction: Survivors’ Stories of Conversion Therapy. He is currently working on two interrelated monograph projects that examine evangelical homophobia and transphobia in the U.S. discussing the intertwining of his faith and queer identity. In this conversation, he delves into the history and reality of conversion therapy, emphasizing the ongoing struggles faced by survivors. Lucas also reflects on the motivation behind his book, contrasting his academic work with personal narratives, and highlights common themes such as shame and secrecy in the stories of conversion therapy survivors. Our discussion aims to raise awareness about the continued existence of conversion therapy practices, despite legal prohibitions. Lucas also highlights the importance of sharing queer stories and finding hope beyond the struggles faced in high-control religious environments. Takeaways Luke identifies as an ex-vangelical and conversion therapy survivor. His academic work focuses on queer history and the New Christian Right. Conversion therapy is often misunderstood as only occurring in specific settings. The term 'conversion practices' encompasses a broader range of experiences. Many queer individuals have undergone some form of conversion practices. Shame is a central theme in the experiences of conversion therapy survivors. Secrecy and silence are prevalent in the narratives of those affected. Luke's book aims to shed light on the ongoing reality of conversion therapy. The collection includes diverse stories from various queer identities. Despite legal bans, conversion therapy practices continue to exist underground. Conversion therapy is a complex issue with many personal stories. Shame can persist even after leaving high-control religious groups. Academia can provide a space for critical thinking and self-discovery. Understanding Christian theology is essential to grasping US politics. The influence of evangelicalism on contemporary issues is significant. Stories of conversion therapy survivors often highlight resilience and hope. Not all stories have neat, happy endings; discomfort is part of the journey. Community support is crucial for those recovering from conversion therapy. Future projects aim to amplify queer voices and experiences. Personal joy can be found in simple pleasures, like enjoying grapes. Chapters (02:27) Faith and Queer Identity Intertwined (08:42) Understanding Conversion Therapy (12:51) The Motivation Behind the Book (15:30) Contrasting Academic and Personal Narratives (17:49) Common Themes in Conversion Therapy Stories (22:08) The Ongoing Reality of Conversion Therapy (23:07) The Impact of Conversion Therapy (25:37) Shame and Self-Reflection (26:07) Academic Awakening and Relearning (30:20) The Role of Christian Theology in History (31:52) Understanding Evangelical Influence on Politics (38:41) Finding Hope Beyond Conversion Therapy (43:27) Future Projects and Community Engagement Resources: Follow Lucas on social media: IG: @lukeslamdunkwilson Threads: @lukeslamdunkwilson X/Twitter: @wilson_fw LinkedIn: TikTok: @lukeslamdunkwilson Facebook: Join the If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at /episode/index/show/queertheology/id/34849030

Taking Another Look at Paul: An Interview with John Dominic Crossan 01/12/2025

Taking Another Look at Paul: An Interview with John Dominic Crossan We’re excited to have return guest, John Dominic Crossan, on the pod this week to talk about his new book, “Paul the Pharisee: A Vision Beyond the Violence of Civilization.” We discuss the importance of matrix as a tool for understanding the context and background of texts and why that is so important when we look at Paul. Crossan emphasizes the role of metaphor in shaping our lives and how dismissing metaphor as less than literal impacts our theology. He explores the differences between ascension and resurrection and why they matter. He talks about how his book explores this distinction between ascension and resurrection, emphasizing the importance of focusing on the community of the human race rather than privileged individuals. Takeaways Understanding the context and background of texts is crucial for interpreting and applying ancient documents to new situations. Paul's significance and importance can be better understood by placing him in the historical and cultural context of the Roman Empire. Metaphor plays a powerful role in shaping our lives and creating reality. It is important to be aware of the metaphors we live by and their implications. Ascension and resurrection are two different concepts. Ascension is about special privilege for an individual, while resurrection is about the liberation of the human race from death. The Easter images in Western and Eastern Christian traditions depict different understandings of resurrection, with the Eastern tradition emphasizing the liberation of the human race. The focus should be on the community of the human race rather than privileged individuals. The evangelical conception of salvation should shift towards caring for the world and recognizing the role of evolution in running the world. Paul's belief in resurrection shaped the behavior and community of early Christians. Reading Paul in the context of Roman imperial theology and studying Virgil's Aeneid can provide a better understanding of the New Testament. Paul's vision of cosmic justice and the implications of evolution are relevant for our world today. Chapters (04:03) Reevaluating Paul: Importance and Significance (11:14) The Power of Metaphor in Shaping Reality (14:37) Ascension vs. Resurrection: Different Concepts (24:28) Easter Images: Western and Eastern Perspectives (29:18) Focusing on the Community of the Human Race (30:28) Challenging the Evangelical Conception of Salvation (31:31) Recognizing the Role of Evolution in Running the World (33:47) Taking Responsibility for the World (35:12) Paul's Vision of Resurrection and Cosmic Justice (44:52) Understanding Paul in the Context of Roman Imperial Theology (52:39) The Relevance of Paul's Vision of Cosmic Justice and Evolution Resources: by John Dominic Crossan Join the If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at /episode/index/show/queertheology/id/33567972

Judaism Unbound Interview 01/05/2025

Exploring Spirituality Through Storytelling with Marques Hollie 12/29/2024

Exploring Spirituality Through Storytelling with Marques Hollie Brian interviews Marques Hollie for this episode of the podcast. Marques Hollie (they/he), is an operatically-trained vocalist, ritual leader, and theatre-maker, who has been telling and singing stories for as long he can remember. Following a course of study in homiletics, liturgy, Torah exegesis, and the canon of Jewish stories, Marques received ordination as a Maggid (sacred storyteller). Currently, he is a student at the Reconstructionist Rabbinical College. Marques shares his journey as a queer clergy person who intertwines storytelling with spirituality. They discuss their experiences of coming out, exploration of faith, and how these elements have shaped their identity. We delve into the power of personal narratives, the significance of storytelling in understanding sacred texts, and the broader implications of these stories in personal transformation and community connection. Takeaways Marques identifies as a queer clergy person who merges storytelling and music. The journey of queerness and faith is deeply intertwined for Marques. Storytelling can reveal deeper meanings in sacred texts. Personal narratives allow individuals to see themselves in larger stories. Queer sacred storytelling offers unique perspectives on tradition. The process of conversion to Judaism can be lengthy and reflective. Storytelling is a powerful tool for personal transformation. Everyone lives within their own stories, regardless of profession. Understanding the agendas behind texts can reshape our interpretations. Connection to sacred texts can be found through personal experiences. Midrash offers a possibility for diverse interpretations. Storytelling is a powerful tool for connection and education. Claiming one's identity can transform personal and professional paths. The journey to becoming a rabbi can be unexpected and profound. Interfaith relationships challenge traditional boundaries in Judaism. Jewish leadership is evolving to be more inclusive. Creative energy thrives in liminal spaces of transition. Engaging with art and literature can deepen spiritual understanding. The importance of community in navigating personal journeys. Finding joy in simple pleasures can be a source of strength. Chapters (02:58) The Journey of Queerness and Faith (05:57) Exploring the Intersection of Storytelling and Spirituality (09:03) The Power of Personal Narratives (11:58) Queer Sacred Storytelling and Its Impact (15:02) Finding Connection in Sacred Texts (18:01) The Role of Storytelling in Personal Transformation (20:54) The Broader Implications of Storytelling (23:58) Conclusion and Reflections on Storytelling (31:03) Exploring Midrash and Queer Perspectives (32:40) The Art of Storytelling in Jewish Tradition (35:14) The Journey to Rabbinical Identity (39:58) Navigating Interfaith Relationships and Rabbinical School (45:05) The Evolution of Jewish Leadership (49:45) Finding Joy in Liminal Spaces and Creative Energy Resources: Learn more about Marques Hollie at Join the If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at /episode/index/show/queertheology/id/34595070

Imagining New Worlds an interview with Eliot Schrefer 12/22/2024

Imagining New Worlds an interview with Eliot Schrefer In this conversation, we speak with author, Eliot Schrefer, about his journey as a writer. We discuss his identity, influences, and the importance of queer representation in literature. He delves into his latest book, 'The Brightness Between Us,' and reflects on the creative process of adapting stories for film. Eliot emphasizes the significance of storytelling in providing hope and connection for LGBTQ+ youth, while also expressing his determination to keep producing this much needed content in the face of pushback from groups that want to ban books. Takeaways Eliot's journey to writing was influenced by his mother's struggles as a writer. He discovered his passion for writing later in life after realizing it was his true calling. Young adult literature often lacked representation of LGBTQ+ experiences during Eliot's youth. Eliot's latest book explores themes of love and identity in a sci-fi setting. The creative process involves drawing inspiration from various sources while creating something original. Queer representation in literature is crucial for the mental health of LGBTQ+ youth. Eliot's work has been positively received, with a growing demand for LGBTQ+ narratives. The adaptation of his book into a film is an exciting opportunity for broader reach. Eliot believes in the power of stories to provide hope and connection. He continues to be inspired by the need for inclusive narratives in today's world. Chapters (00:00) Introduction to Eliot and His Journey (02:57) Eliot's Path to Becoming a Writer (06:01) Influences and Inspirations in Young Adult Literature (09:05) Exploring Eliot's Latest Book: *The Darkness Outside* (12:05) The Creative Process: From Inspiration to Storytelling (14:53) The Importance of Queer Representation in Literature (17:48) Adapting Books for Film: The Journey Ahead (20:46) Finding Joy and Inspiration in Writing (24:05) Closing Thoughts and Future Connections Resources: Preorder n Us by Eliot Schrefer Learn more about Eliot Schrefer at Join the If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at /episode/index/show/queertheology/id/34485815

Queer Affirming Therapy an interview with Ann Russo 12/15/2024

Queer Affirming Therapy an interview with Ann Russo We’re joined by Ann Russo, a queer therapist, who shares her journey of growing up in a queer household and navigating the complexities of identity, religion, and acceptance. She discusses the challenges faced by LGBTQ individuals in religious spaces, the importance of support systems, and the impact of religious trauma. Ann emphasizes the need for therapists to be transparent and knowledgeable about LGBTQ issues and offers insights into finding the right therapist. Our conversation highlights stories of transformation and the significance of intergenerational relationships within the queer community. Takeaways Ann Russo identifies as a queer therapist passionate about the intersection of identity, trauma, and spirituality. Growing up in a queer household in the 80s was challenging due to societal prejudice and fear of violence. Ann initially resisted her queerness, wanting to 'pray the gay away' until she embraced her identity in high school. Religion was not a positive force in Ann's upbringing, leading to curiosity about its teachings later in life. Ann immersed herself in conservative Christian spaces to understand the messaging against LGBTQ individuals. The transition from fear to acceptance involved social justice activism and creating safe spaces for LGBTQ youth. Religious trauma can create barriers for LGBTQ individuals seeking acceptance in progressive religious spaces. Support systems, including chosen family and older queer mentors, are crucial for healing and acceptance. Finding a therapist who understands the intersection of queerness and religion is essential for LGBTQ individuals. Transformation stories highlight the resilience of LGBTQ individuals and the importance of community support. Chapters (00:00) Introduction to Queer Identity and Therapy (03:02) Growing Up in a Queer Household (05:47) The Intersection of Religion and Queerness (09:01) Navigating Religious Spaces as a Queer Person (12:00) Transitioning from Fear to Acceptance (15:03) Understanding Religious Trauma (17:54) The Importance of Support Systems (21:13) Finding a Therapist for LGBTQ Issues (23:56) Stories of Transformation (27:10) The Role of Intergenerational Relationships (30:06) Closing Thoughts and Resources Resources: Learn more about Ann Russo’s work at Accessible therapy at Join the If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at /episode/index/show/queertheology/id/34362990

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