Social Pros Podcast

Presented by Convince & Convert, Social Pros is one of the longest-running marketing podcasts in existence! Focused on the nexus of social media and other marketing disciplines, we bring you interviews and commentary from companies including Google, Reddit, Uber, Oracle, and many more to understand how social media impacts brand marketing, content marketing, reputation management, public relations, paid media, and much more. After more than a decade, Social Pros is still the one podcast that brings listeners inside the minds of marketing leaders making real impact. Join us as we dive behind-the-scenes and share actionable marketing strategies that you can immediately implement. 🎙 Listen to our episodes on our website—socialpros.com—or on your favorite audio platform.

From Bland to Bold B2B Content with Joel Harrison 05/30/2025

From Bland to Bold B2B Content with Joel Harrison How do B2B marketers build genuine trust across the customer journey? Joel Harrison, Founder of B2B Marketing, shares how leading brands are using thought leadership, influencer partnerships, and creative audio to stand out. From award-winning campaigns to vibrant professional communities like Propolis, Joel offers insights that challenge traditional B2B norms. Tune in for a conversation that redefines what it means to connect in the B2B space! Full Episode Details Joel joins hosts Zontee Hou and Jason Keath on this episode of Social Pros to explore how B2B marketers can embrace creativity, take smart risks, and reclaim the power of brand. He explains why the industry is shifting toward long-term brand building and trust as key drivers of growth. Joel also shares why bravery is now one of the most valuable qualities for B2B marketers, and how storytelling and strategic thinking are making a strong comeback. Joel, Zontee and Jason also dive into the growing role of influencers in B2B, the power and resonance of audio content to build emotional connections, and how the best campaigns often come from clear-minded boldness. Joel also reveals how the most effective marketers today are balancing performance with purpose—and even weighs in on which B2C tactics don’t translate to B2B. In This Episode: 1:48 - The anti-corporate creativity trend 2:26 - Favorite examples of creative anti-corporate campaigns 3:51 - Is there a clear line of going too far with this kind of work? 6:25 - How brands can do better at standing out creatively 8:09 - How organizations can wade into this influencer space by building trust and to coming off authentically 10:08 - How to successfully cultivate thought leadership internally 13:27 - Thought leadership as part of full funnel marketing 15:33 - Why engagement and conversion respond so well to creative content 16:07 - Tactics to get creative campaigns approved by CFOs, CMOs 18:20 - Upcoming trends in the awards submissions space 19:37 - What B2B can learn from B2C 21:30 - Challenges with trust that B2B organizations face 23:20 - The successful use of creative audio in the B2B space 27:36 - Joel’s advice for aspiring social pros Resources: Visit  for more insights from your favorite social media marketers. /episode/index/show/socialpros/id/36780715

The ROl of Authenticity with Joseph Perello, CEO of Props 05/16/2025

The ROl of Authenticity with Joseph Perello, CEO of Props How do you combine the power of creator marketing with performance-driven results? Joseph Perello, CEO of Props, shares how his platform helps brands create content that’s not only authentic but also measurable and effective. From emphasizing credibility to redefining how success is tracked in the creator economy, Joe -- who's also worked with such high-level clients as David Bowie, AAA, and the New York Yankees -- offers insights into making influencer partnerships truly impactful. Full Episode Details Joseph joins host Hannah Tooker on this episode of Social Pros to explore how the creator economy is redefining influencer marketing and what brands need to do to adapt. Joe breaks down the key differences between creators and traditional influencers, highlighting the pitfalls of the outdated “follower fallacy” and the importance of pairing creator content with paid media to drive measurable results. He also shares how Props is helping brands and creators build trust at scale using AI-powered tools that ensure creator authenticity, compliance, and brand safety. Joe also reflects on the evolution of viral marketing, the reality of sustaining attention online, and why consistent, data-driven content is more valuable than chasing fleeting hits. Plus, he offers practical advice for aspiring social pros on blending analytical insight with creative instinct to craft effective campaigns. And in a memorable moment, Joe shares his dream video call pick and the heartfelt story behind it. All that and more on an all-new episode of Social Pros! In This Episode: 1:41 - Joe's career so far and how Props works 6:33 - How Props uses storytelling as its marketing foundation 12:00 - Thinking about creators differently than influencers and how Props measures success 14:17 - Client success stories, from AAA to College Ave 18:04 - The biggest pitfalls in influencer marketing 20:58 - Where Joes sees creator-driven marketing heading next 25:43 - Joe’s advice for aspiring social pros Resources: Visit  for more insights from your favorite social media marketers. /episode/index/show/socialpros/id/36539725

Intellectual Property, AI, and Influencers: Decoding the Legal Implications of Marketing in 2025 with Ruth Carter from Geek Law Firm 05/02/2025

Intellectual Property, AI, and Influencers: Decoding the Legal Implications of Marketing in 2025 with Ruth Carter from Geek Law Firm Episode Description How can marketers stay creative while steering clear of legal landmines? Ruth Carter (they/them), attorney, writer, and speaker at Geek Law Firm, joins Social Pros to unravel the legal implications of today’s hottest marketing trends—from AI-generated content to brand collaborations. In this episode, Ruth shares practical guidance on navigating intellectual property, distinguishing between copyright and trademark, and staying compliant without sacrificing innovation. Whether you're experimenting with UGC or working with creators, this conversation is packed with essential legal insights for every marketer. Full Episode Details Ruth joins hosts Zontee Hou and Sunny Hunt on this episode of Social Pros to unpack the complex legal landscape marketers must navigate in today’s ever-evolving industry. Ruth dives into how marketers and content creators should think about intellectual property, contracts, and copyright issues, especially when AI tools are involved in generating content. They explain why contracts should explicitly address AI use, the importance of transparency in data handling, and how marketers can avoid common legal pitfalls when working with third parties. Ruth also emphasizes the need for proactive data governance, especially in regulated industries, and encourages brands to build collaborative relationships with legal teams from the start — not just as a final approval step. Throughout the episode, they offer clear, actionable advice with their signature wit (jokingly referring to themself as a “professional killjoy”) and deliver one of the most practical tips yet for anyone in a service-based business. In This Episode: 2:29 - What marketers need to know about protecting IP, and the differences between trademarks and copyright 5:50 - The specific criteria needed in order to trademark 8:34 - Leveraging the IP of others for your own purposes without getting into legal trouble 12:05 - What marketers should have in place in preperation for others to license their content 13:24 - Common mistakes and how people get themselves into trouble with legal 15:02 - Best steps to take when seeing your IP has been stolen and used illegally 18:32 - How AI-generated content relates to copyright 21:04 - Setting expectations and guidelines surrounding AI in third party-created content 22:34 - What Ruth suggests clients have in their contracts regarding AI 24:25 - How to manage confidentiality surrounding AI 26:48 - Being upfront with your audience about data collection 29:49 - Managing expectations and guardrails of compliance and legal 33:02 - How and why marketers often hit a wall with their legal teams 35:38 - Ruth’s advice for aspiring social pros Resources: Visit  for more insights from your favorite social media marketers. /episode/index/show/socialpros/id/36378950

Does Email Marketing Still Matter? Lessons in Humanizing Data and Building Trust with Robbie Fitzwater 04/18/2025

Does Email Marketing Still Matter? Lessons in Humanizing Data and Building Trust with Robbie Fitzwater Is email marketing a thing of the past, or should it still be a key part of your marketing strategy? To coincide with the launch of C&C's new newsletter, The Trendline, on this episode we welcome Robbie Fitzwater, founder of digital agency MKTG Rhythm. Robbie shares his deep insights into how email and one-to-one communication remain the backbone of any successful digital marketing strategy. Robbie also talks about how to "out-human" big competition by blending creativity with technology, and highlights the value of segmentation and personalizing messaging for different customer segments, and also discusses why his team doesn't hire anyone without AI experience in today's world. Full Episode Details Robbie joins hosts Zontee Hou and Jason Keath on this episode of Social Pros to dive into the ever-evolving world of email marketing, segmentation, and content creation. He shares how brands can use AI and personalization to deliver highly relevant and engaging experiences for different customer segments, while balancing automation with a human touch. Robbie discusses how MKTG Rhythm leverages AI for content creation, from crafting tailored email sequences to generating creative designs for campaigns. He also explains the importance of understanding customer behavior across multiple channels, maximizing content reach, and driving conversions with data-driven strategies. Robbie highlights that while they can't outscale the giants in their space, they can out-human them, bringing a unique, personal touch to their marketing efforts. All that and more on this new episode of Social Pros! In This Episode: 2:01 - The value of email newsletters and how they're evolving 4:41 - How frequent email newsletters should go out 7:19 - Creating newsletters with thought leaders and unique voices vs. a larger brand, and how to choose which one is right 12:45 - How Robbie guides his clients on the importance of email in their overall marketing plan 15:55 - Robbie's advice on collecting and leveraging customer data through email 19:52 - The importance of SMS and combining it with email 21:45 - Specifics on how to get that additional data and building the consumer profile 24:48 - Great conversion rates on quick-question emails 29:05 - Robbie's advice for catering to each consumer effectively through storytelling, automation and segmentation 35:45 - What MKTG Rhythm is using AI for, and the importance of their team members having AI experience 41:52 - Robbie’s advice for aspiring social pros Resources: Visit  for more insights from your favorite social media marketers. /episode/index/show/socialpros/id/36207135

TikTok Tips and Creator Partnership Lessons with Geisha Garcia from U. of Miami 04/04/2025

TikTok Tips and Creator Partnership Lessons with Geisha Garcia from U. of Miami How can universities harness the power of social media to elevate their institution, engage students, and build lasting communities on and off campus? Geisha Garcia, Executive Director of Social Media at the University of Miami, knows the impact of strategic content, influencer partnerships, and community-driven storytelling. In this episode, we dive into how Geisha's team creates authentic, high-performing content, fosters collaboration with students, and integrates social media into broader institutional initiatives. From student creator programs to major brand activations, Geisha shares how social teams can claim their seat at the table and drive meaningful engagement. Full Episode Details Geisha Garcia joins host Jason Keath on this episode of Social Pros to share how the University of Miami is redefining higher ed social media through authenticity, collaboration, and strategic content creation. She dives into the impact of student creator programs, how her team balances institutional messaging with relatable social-first content, and why engagement is just as important as content itself. With brand activations playing a bigger role on campus, Geisha explains how social teams can proactively integrate into broader marketing initiatives—rather than reacting after the fact. She also breaks down the power of influencer partnerships, why micro-influencers often outperform big names, and how community management on TikTok is a game-changer. Geisha also shares how her team stays ahead by fostering collaboration, testing formats like carousels, and pushing for social’s seat at the table—ensuring it remains a strategic force within the institution. Stay tuned after Geisha's interview for a conversation with Jason, Zontee and Sunny about Convince & Convert's new newsletter, The Trend Line. In This Episode: 1:55 - UMiami's social partnerships with other universities 7:15 - Successes and lessons learned from UMiami's TikTok account 8:31 - UMiami's new student creator program and how it operates 15:24 - How Geisha and her team found the current students in the creator program 17:54 - How the student creators benefit from the program 20:30 - The social strategy for UMiami's centennial celebration, and how it's been executed 24:40 - Community management on TikTok 26:05 - Choosing the right partnerships that will resonate with your audience 26:56 - How to correctly collaborate with brands on university socials 29:57 - Geisha’s advice for aspiring social pros 32:30 - Zontee, Jason and Sunny discuss C&C's new newsletter, The Trend Line Resources: /episode/index/show/socialpros/id/35962220

The Top 5 Marketing Trends for 2025 Based on Research with Todd Lebo 03/21/2025

The Top 5 Marketing Trends for 2025 Based on Research with Todd Lebo How can B2B brands use original research to drive thought leadership and marketing success? Todd Lebo, CEO and Partner of Ascend2, specializes in helping businesses create data-driven content that builds authority and engagement. In this episode, we dive into the top five marketing trends shaping 2025 and how research can be leveraged to craft compelling narratives. From starting with the executive summary to ensuring insights tell a clear story, Todd shares expert advice on how to make research more impactful and actionable. Full Episode Details As we close out the first quarter of the year, Todd joins hosts Zontee Hou and Jason Keath to not only explore the top 2025 trends shaping B2B marketing, but to also share insights on the ongoing challenges of unifying data across multiple sources and why marketers need to rethink their martech stacks to stay ahead. Todd also dives into the role of AI in making data more accessible, how companies can maximize the value of research studies, and why marketers should revisit past ideas as technology evolves. Plus, he highlights the power of frontline marketers in uncovering real, actionable insights—and shares a great story about how a simple conversation reshaped the way a financial tool was marketed. In This Episode: AI-Powered Content Marketing: Balancing Quality and Quantity (2:28) Data Point: Only 32% of marketers consider their content marketing strategy very successful, while 55% cite generating traffic and leads as their biggest challenge. Source: . Why It Matters: Marketers need to use AI, not just for content creation but also for improving audience targeting and engagement. AI-driven insights can help refine content strategies for better results. Influencer Marketing Goes Mainstream in B2B (8:16) Data Point: 49% of marketers cite integrating influencer content into a broader mix of marketing tactics as a top trend for 2025. Source: Why It Matters: B2B influencer marketing is maturing, and brands that integrate influencers into their full marketing strategy will see greater engagement and credibility. Scaling Marketing Efforts Through AI-Powered Automation (14:06) Data Point: AI is being used extensively for content creation (37%), social media management (35%), and chatbot automation (25%). Source: . Why It Matters: AI-driven automation enables marketers to scale their efforts while maintaining high-quality engagement across multiple channels. The Data Confidence Divide: AI, Authenticity, and Revenue Growth (20:08) Data Point: 46% of marketers confident in their data strategy reported significant revenue growth, while only 15% of less confident marketers saw the same success. Source: Why It Matters: A strong data strategy is a key driver of business growth. Marketers must prioritize data accuracy and AI-driven insights to maintain authenticity and improve engagement. Data-Driven Marketing: Overcoming Integration Challenges Data Point: 63% of marketers rate their data-driven strategy as somewhat successful, while integrating data from multiple sources remains a challenge. Source: . Why It Matters: Data is critical for marketing success, but fragmentation hinders performance. Marketers must invest in AI-powered analytics and automation to streamline their data integration. How to turn data into action (25:46) Todd's advice for aspiring social pros (32:57) Who Todd would most want a video call with (33:59) Resources Visit  for more insights from your favorite social media marketers. /episode/index/show/socialpros/id/35739810

How Consumer Insights Lead to Trust at the Weather Channel with Randi Stipes 03/07/2025

How Consumer Insights Lead to Trust at the Weather Channel with Randi Stipes How does the weather influence your daily decisions, from your morning routine to your mood? Randi Stipes, CMO of The Weather Company, understands the profound impact of weather on consumer behavior—and how to harness it for deeper connection and trust with their customers. In this episode, we explore how The Weather Company collects and leverages consumer insights to enhance user experience, inform marketing strategies, and shape content creation. From data-driven storytelling to innovative brand collaborations, Randi shares how her team turns weather-driven moments into meaningful connections. Full Episode Details Randi joins host Zontee Hou on this episode of Social Pros to discuss how The Weather Channel is using weather data to drive trust with their audience and customers. She explains how weather is the "ultimate contextual accelerant", influencing consumer behavior in unexpected ways (like how a temperature drop in the Ohio Valley can actually boost ice cream sales!) Randi also shares insights on why B2B businesses need a weather strategy, how The Weather Company is working with content creators to showcase real-life weather impacts, and the brand's partnership with the United Nations on the WeatherKids campaign, a global initiative to inspire climate action through future forecasts. She also highlights the growing role of social in driving brand authenticity and why every marketer should nurture a strong relationship with their CFO to align strategies and impact -- and gives one of the best answers yet to our "If you could have a video call with any living person, who would it be?" question with a heartwarming story you won't want to miss! In This Episode: 2:16 - The Weather Company's new brand platform, and the process of rolling it out to achieve their business goals 5:15 - How the brand works with content creators, and how they fit into The Weather Company's ecosystem 7:52 - The different audiences the brand is targeting with their content creator approach 10:38 - How The Weather Channel has changed over the course of its history, and how Randi is preparing her team for the coming evolution of the digital landscape 13:48 - How the brand is thinking about that personalization to give their audience a better expereince 15:52 - Important points for all marketers to keep in mind when building towards registration and ensuring customers see the brand as an ongoing partner in their lives 19:37 - Things that will be really valuable for The Weather Company and all marketers to think about when collecting information about how customers behave so that a better story can be told to them 23:14 - How to think about insights that serve B2B partners, and why every B2B business needs a weather strategy 28:4 - WeatherKids, a joint program with the United Nations Development Program and the World Meteorological Organization. 31:38 - Who Randi would most want a video call with, and the wonderful story explaining why 36:02 - Randi’s advice for aspiring social pros Resources Visit  for more insights from your favorite social media marketers. /episode/index/show/socialpros/id/35537490

Digging for Gold(en) Social Comments with Matthew McGrory from Arwen 02/21/2025

Digging for Gold(en) Social Comments with Matthew McGrory from Arwen How can brands create safer, more engaging digital spaces while maximizing the impact of their social media efforts? Matthew McGrory, CEO of Arwen AI, shares how AI-driven moderation helps brands protect their communities, reduce toxicity, and improve ad performance. In this episode, we explore how companies like Hinge and Formula One teams work with Arwen to safeguard conversations, enhance customer acquisition, and ensure a brand-safe environment. From tackling online abuse to optimizing real-time engagement, Matthew reveals why a cleaner, more positive digital space leads to stronger connections and better business outcomes. Full Episode Details Matthew joins this episode of Social Pros to reveal how Arwen is transforming online brand safety and engagement through AI-powered moderation. He dives into how brands work with Arwen to track sponsorship sentiment, tackle online toxicity, and create safer, more welcoming digital spaces. With social media ads reaching new audiences—sometimes unpredictably—Matthew unpacks how AI-driven moderation helps brands reduce harmful interactions and enhance positive ones. He also shares insights on why a clean, positive online environment leads to better ad performance, stronger audience trust, and increased conversions. Social pros know that engagement is everything, as long as a brand’s digital space feels safe and inviting. Matthew explains how Arwen helps companies automate moderation, ensure brand safety, and turn social media into a place where communities can thrive. In This Episode: 2:20 - How Arwen works for those in the social sphere 3:04 - What inspired Matthew and his team to create Arwen 5:58 - How social listening has evolved, and how AI is changing it today 9:22 - How these tools help businesses to find more intent-driven comments and sales opportunities 13:36 - How to stay authentic and respond naturally with the use of AI without losing audience trust 18:24 - Some of the recent projects Matthew and Arwen have been working on 22:03 - Arwen's work with the Hinge dating app 27:11 - Matthew's recommendations for tools for identifying real-time social response opportunities 32:14 - Matthew’s advice for aspiring social pros Resources Visit  for more insights from your favorite social media marketers. /episode/index/show/socialpros/id/35359800

The Evolution of the Creator Economy from Attention to Insights with Jamie Ray 02/07/2025

The Evolution of the Creator Economy from Attention to Insights with Jamie Ray How do you turn brand interactions on social platforms into moments that feel personal, meaningful, and community-driven? Jamie Ray, founder and CEO of Buttermilk, knows the secret lies in nurturing the bond between brands and their biggest fans. In this episode, we dive into how Buttermilk prioritize community-first engagement, helping brands create authentic relationships that go beyond transactions. From amplifying brand love to fostering deep connections, Buttermilk’s approach proves that when brands invest in their fans, the impact is both powerful and lasting. Full Episode Details Jamie joins this episode of Social Pros to share how Buttermilk is redefining influencer marketing by putting communities first. He dives into why building strong, lasting connections between brands and their most loyal fans is so important—and how Buttermilk helps brands nurture those relationships in meaningful ways. With TikTok facing a possible U.S. ban, Jamie unpacks what this means for creators and brands, offering insights on how to pivot, protect communities, and stay ahead of platform changes. He also explores the rise of AI influencers, why human connection will always reign supreme, and whether influencers could soon take on the role of creative directors for brands. Social moves fast, and brands that truly understand their audiences win. Jamie explains how Buttermilk helps brands move beyond transactional influencer marketing to create authentic, long-term engagement that keeps communities thriving. In This Episode: 2:02 - Large shifts in the influencer space over the last decade, from just a few big influencers to thousands of micro influencers 5:39 - Buttermilk being community first and finding tastemakers in communities 8:05 - How Buttermilk nurtures and grows the relationship between brands and their fans 10:25 - How Jamie advises his clients to get customer insights from their biggest fans 12:33 - The beginning of Jamies' career and the origins of Buttermilk 16:38 - Not getting hyper-fixated on trends in 2025 19:42 - Thoughts and advice on the future of TikTok 22:22 - The flaws of AI influencers in social, and the Gen Z hunger for more real life experiences 24:40 - The democratization of creativity in marketing teams and brands 29:56 - Jamie’s advice for aspiring social pros Resources Visit  for more insights from your favorite social media marketers. /episode/index/show/socialpros/id/35078265

Leveraging #FOMO to Inspire Action with Tristan Diehl 01/24/2025

Leveraging #FOMO to Inspire Action with Tristan Diehl What are the secrets for managing socials of vastly different properties across the Casino & Hospitality space? Tristan Diehl, Enterprise Director of Social Media at San Manuel Band of Mission Indians (SMBMI), speaks with Zontee and Hannah to reveal how her team manages the social accounts for all SMBMI properties (and the various elements within each one) while also ensuring they're fulfilling both customer and client needs. Full Episode Details Tristan joins this episode of Social Pros to share how she and her team create social content to inspire followers to come out to SMBMI properties, including Yaamava Resort & Casino in SoCal and Palms Resort & Casino in Las Vegas, where guests will have exciting, in-person experiences and create lasting memories. Tristan discusses using social to change the public's perspective when the property goes through major changes and upgrades. In the case of Yaamava, they've used storytelling and montages to showcase new amenities and entertainment so guests can get a feel for the space before stepping in the resort. With Palms, she and her team were tasked with reviving dormant social media accounts after the property was re-opened under new ownership after several years -- a challenge for even the most experienced social pros. And now, it's been key to SMBMI to bridge the gap between the properties, while also highlighting the unique qualties of each. Tristan talks about balancing these company needs with the needs of their audience, and finding the perfect trends that will satisfy both. In This Episode: 3:07 - Tristan shares how she manages social for San Manuel, Yaamava, and Palms, and how the strategy for each property is unique 6:53 - Leveraging FOMO to spark guest excitement for experiences only SMBMI properties can give 9:04 - How Tristan plans content for each of the properties, and how she does her reporting to cater to what followers respond to 11:02 - Balancing the wants of your audience with the wants of your shareholders 15:09 - Betting on an unsure piece of content, and course correcting when something you were hoping was going to hit turns out to misfire 17:32 - Building and upskilling a well-rounded team to expand capabilities 21:13 - Trend work for 2025 25:19 - How to revive long-dormant social accounts 30:22 - Tristan’s advice for aspiring social pros Resources Visit  for more insights from your favorite social media marketers. /episode/index/show/socialpros/id/34975860

Creating Magical Moments Through Social at Hilton 01/10/2025

Creating Magical Moments Through Social at Hilton How do you take a global hospitality brand and make it feel personal, heartfelt, and human? Dannii Ceniceros, Senior Analyst, Global Social Engagement at Hilton, reveals how his team turn trending moments into magical ones. From helping a kitten named Wisp recover safely to gifting a TikTok storyteller their dream trip to London and Paris, Hilton’s social media strategy is all about social listening, staying nimble, and creating authentic emotional connections. Full Episode Details Dannii joins this episode of Social Pros to share how Hilton’s social media team stays nimble, leaning into trends and turning them into meaningful moments. He talks about the power of listening to what’s happening online and spotting opportunities to make genuine connections with their audience. Hilton’s approach is all about little actions that create lasting impressions. These efforts don’t just delight current guests, they also catch the eye of future customers, putting Hilton top of mind when it matters most. We all know social is fast and timing can be everything. Dannii explains how Hilton’s team combines teamwork, social listening, and a clear game plan to act quickly when the moment is right. This approach is not about chasing every trend; it’s about knowing when and how to show up in a way that aligns with your brand’s values. Why? Because it creates memorable moments and magical experiences that feel personal and genuine. In This Episode: 1:57 - Dannii’s role at Hilton and his team’s creative approach to online trends 3:58 - How Hilton helped Wisp the kitten and turned travel stress into a heartwarming moment 8:31 - ReesaTeesa’s TikTok journey and Hilton’s thoughtful response 12:04 - Why speed and nimbleness are key in social media 12:54 - Using social listening tools to identify opportunities 14:15 - The importance of a vetting process for social initiatives 15:52 - Leveraging data to overcome leadership resistance 16:42 - Leadership’s focus on aligning initiatives with Hilton’s values 17:46 - The story behind Hilton’s viral TikTok trend 20:25 - How defined processes drive Hilton’s success on social 22:44 - The Wicked-inspired rooms and their overwhelming success 27:18 - Dannii’s advice for aspiring social pros Resources Visit  for more insights from your favorite social media marketers. /episode/index/show/socialpros/id/34772315

Social Pros Winter Break 12/20/2024

An Honest Conversation About Authenticity with Ravi Hampole 12/13/2024

An Honest Conversation About Authenticity with Ravi Hampole What does it take to refresh a global brand like Lululemon? Ravi Hampole, SVP of Global Brand Creative, returns to Social Pros to reveal how the team has been working on a brand new identity for 2025 that connects products, people, and stories in a way that feels uniquely human. From their three core pillars to balancing authenticity and inclusivity, Ravi shares what it means to build a brand that truly moves. Full Episode Details Lululemon’s new brand identity is more than just a refresh. It’s a statement about who they are and the stories they want to tell. At its core is the belief that movement goes beyond physical performance; it’s also about emotional and mental well-being. Whether it’s the energy of a run, the serenity of yoga, or simply feeling present, Lululemon's approach focuses on connecting with people on a human level. During his conversation on Social Pros, Ravi shares how the brand uses storytelling to bring this philosophy to life. At the heart of this evolution are three guiding principles: Honest, Playful, and Vibrant. These pillars shape everything from campaign visuals to social media content, ensuring that the brand resonates with audiences on a personal level. Whether it’s through light-hearted social media challenges or bold, energetic visuals, every piece of content is designed to inspire joy, movement, and a sense of belonging. Ravi also highlights the importance of authenticity and inclusivity in shaping Lululemon’s global presence. By working with ambassadors who bring their own unique practices and perspectives, the brand ensures their message feels genuine while reflecting the diverse communities they serve. As Lululemon continues to expand, balancing cultural sensitivities and staying true to their values remains a key focus. In This Episode: 1:42 - Ravi shares what excites him most about Lululemon’s new brand identity and its focus on how products and movement make people feel 4:00 - How storytelling bridges the gap between product design and brand identity, with a focus on community connection and authenticity in campaigns 5:30 - The three pillars of Lululemon’s new brand identity: Honest, Playful, and Vibrant 9:31 - Ravi explains the balance between authenticity and brand alignment when working with ambassadors 15:18 - The evolution of Lululemon’s approach to inclusivity and representation, from showcasing diverse stories to navigating the challenges of global branding 22:42 - How Lululemon evaluates creative ideas to ensure they align with brand values and cultural sensitivities 27:27 - Why training and experience have made Lululemon’s team more confident in tackling sensitive topics and balancing inclusivity in campaigns 29:15 - Ravi’s advice for aspiring social pros Resources Visit  for more insights from your favorite social media marketers. /episode/index/show/socialpros/id/34201345

How Southwest Airlines Navigate the World of Influencer Relationships 12/06/2024

How Southwest Airlines Navigate the World of Influencer Relationships Building a successful influencer program isn’t just about campaigns. It’s about connections. On this episode of Social Pros, Kara Salazar, Senior Influencer Marketing Specialist at Southwest Airlines, takes us behind the scenes of their thriving influencer program. From truly understanding each influencer’s unique style to bringing them together for face-to-face events like Creator Day, Kara reveals the secrets to creating campaigns that feel genuine, build trust, and deliver results. Full Episode Details For Kara Salazar, success in influencer marketing starts with building genuine connections. Since joining Southwest Airlines in 2022, she has focused on creating a program that prioritizes trust and authenticity. Kara doesn’t just work with influencers—she makes an effort to know their names, handles, and what makes them unique. This personal touch has turned their influencers into loyal brand advocates who go above and beyond for Southwest. It’s not just about connections; it’s about communication. Kara explains that every influencer is different, works differently, and has unique needs. She creates space for honest, two-way conversations, often through feedback sessions designed to refine how they collaborate. These sessions allow influencers to share what works best for them—whether it’s receiving a detailed brief or a more visual guide—and ensure that every campaign feels tailored to their strengths. By listening, adapting, and making these adjustments, Kara builds trust and creates partnerships that don’t just work—they thrive. Kara’s vision for Creator Day has also been transformative. This annual event brings influencers and the Southwest team together in person to strengthen bonds and gives influencers a deeper understanding of the brand. These face-to-face moments have turned Southwest’s influencer program into a true community, delivering campaigns that feel authentic and meaningful. In This Episode: 1:29 - Kara’s role at Southwest Airlines and the origins of their influencer program 3:35 - Rebuilding the influencer program after COVID and proving its value to leadership 5:07 - How Kara measures the success of influencer campaigns 6:21 - Finding influencers who align with Southwest’s brand and reflect their diverse audience 8:22 - Building genuine relationships with influencers by getting to know them personally 10:23 - The importance of feedback sessions and tailoring briefs to individual influencer styles 12:12 - Southwest’s Big Flex campaign and integrating influencers into large-scale marketing efforts 13:32 - Bridging the gap between marketing teams to scale influencer campaigns 16:08 - Kara’s advice for navigating different goals between internal teams and influencers 17:47 - Experimenting with short-term affiliate campaigns to track direct revenue from influencers 20:44 - The story behind Creator Day and how it strengthens bonds with Southwest’s influencers 21:41 - How Southwest uses influencers to test new platforms like TikTok before launching as a brand 25:03 - Kara’s advice for aspiring social pros Resources Visit  for more insights from your favorite social media marketers. /episode/index/show/socialpros/id/34201125

Greatest Hits: How Bennie Johnson Amplifies Magic at the American Marketing Association 11/29/2024

Greatest Hits: How Bennie Johnson Amplifies Magic at the American Marketing Association As it’s Thanksgiving week, we’re taking a moment to look back at one of our favorite episodes with Bennie F. Johnson, CEO of the American Marketing Association. In this conversation, Bennie breaks down how AMA supports both academics and practitioners, shares his perspective on AI’s ethical and legal challenges, and even explains why LinkedIn is his platform of choice. Most memorably, he highlights why he believes marketing is equal parts art, science, and magic. Full Episode Details The American Marketing Association is probably an organization you’re familiar with, and in this episode, we welcomed none other than the CEO himself, Bennie F. Johnson, for a fantastic conversation. Bennie shares some background of AMA and how it supports those on the academic and practitioner side of marketing. We hear his thoughts on AI and the ethical and legal considerations that marketing pros need to know about – some of which differ by state and country. Bennie also explains why LinkedIn is the platform of choice for his personal brand and AMA. Bennie shares his advice for the future marketing leaders out there, and we chat about why marketing today doesn’t just belong in the creative realm. There’s also a science to it (with a dash of magic too). He outlines how marketing pros can communicate the value of marketing to a wider organization, the importance of taking risks, and his advice for the Social Pros community. In This Episode: 1:08 - How the American Marketing Association supports the marketing community 4:58 - Why marketers need communities more than ever 7:28 - How marketers can embrace AI 11:00 - What marketers need to know about different privacy regulations 13:13 - Balancing communication with community members 17:24 - How Bennie speaks to future marketers 20:38 - How marketers can communicate their value to a wider organization 24:46 - Why risk and curiosity are key to marketing 29:37 - Leading authentically in marketing 31:23 - Bennie’s one tip for those wanting to become a social pro Resources Visit  for more insights from your favorite social media marketers. /episode/index/show/socialpros/id/34191540

Why Social Goes to the Dogs 11/22/2024

Why Social Goes to the Dogs Managing social media for 275 locations might sound like a daunting task, but for Dogtopia, it’s a chance to connect with dog lovers everywhere. Toni Teplitsky, Senior Director of Marketing, reveals how her team keeps content fresh, local, and heartfelt—while staying true to their playful brand. From leveraging AI to embracing the power of real, raw storytelling, Toni shares what it takes to stand out in a world full of adorable dog content. Full Episode Details Dogtopia’s social media isn’t just about cute dog photos (though there are plenty of those). With 275 locations across North America, Toni and her team have mastered the art of balancing efficiency with heartfelt storytelling. At the core of their success is authenticity. Whether it’s showcasing dogs having the time of their lives with “canine coaches,” celebrating local flair with events like Halloween parades, or capturing raw, unfiltered moments of joy, Dogtopia’s content feels personal and genuine. It’s not about polished perfection—it’s about showing the real, messy, lovable lives of dogs and their humans. Recycling content is another key ingredient in their strategy. Instead of constantly churning out new material, Toni’s team leans on high-performing posts from the past, giving them new life and introducing them to fresh audiences. As Toni explains, not every follower sees every post, so why not highlight what already works? This approach keeps their message consistent and their content machine running smoothly. With a clever mix of repurposed content, local insights, and emotional storytelling, Dogtopia proves that standing out in the crowded world of dog content doesn’t mean reinventing the wheel—it just takes a little creativity and a lot of heart. In This Episode: 2:51 - Tackling social media’s constant changes to stay relevant 4:10 - Balancing Dogtopia’s corporate brand with local franchise voices 6:12 - How AI helps Dogtopia tweak posts at scale without losing its unique brand voice 7:40 - Creating platform-specific content and why speaking to each platform’s strengths is key 8:54 - Feeding the content machine: why UGC and raw, authentic content are outperforming polished professional shoots 11:19 - Ensuring Dogtopia’s content breaks through in a sea of dog-focused content online 12:35 - Recycling content: why repetition strengthens your message 14:32 - Making life easier for franchisees: how Dogtopia creates ready-to-use campaign toolkits 16:01 - Messaging that connects with pet parents at every stage, from first-time dog owners to seasoned pros 17:51 - How younger generations are reshaping trends in pet care 20:43 - Smart content strategies for evolving platforms—why “think smarter, not harder” is key 22:40 - The platforms Toni sees the most growth potential in 23:58 - How Dogtopia’s foundation supports veterans, students, and adults with autism through the power of dogs 28:23 - Toni’s advice for aspiring social pros Resources Visit  for more insights from your favorite social media marketers. /episode/index/show/socialpros/id/34075561

Cut Through the Noise with the King of Clarity, Steve Woodruff 11/15/2024

Cut Through the Noise with the King of Clarity, Steve Woodruff Getting your message heard in today’s crowded digital world isn’t easy, but clarity in communication can make all the difference. Steve Woodruff, the King of Clarity, shares his 4-step formula to help social marketers create impactful, memorable messaging. With insights tailored for a content-saturated landscape, Steve offers practical advice to sharpen your messaging and truly connect with your audience. Full Episode Details In today’s digital chaos, clarity is your secret weapon for cutting through the noise. Steve Woodruff, also known as the King of Clarity, shares how simplifying your messaging can help you grab attention and leave a lasting impact. His 4-step Clarity Formula is designed to help marketers define their message, hook their audience, and ensure their communication hits home. Steve reveals how understanding the brain’s natural filters—like the Reticular Activating System (RAS)—can make your messaging more relevant and engaging. He explains how techniques like crafting “memory darts” and structuring information like a pyramid can help to simplify complex ideas and make your audience remember what matters. This isn’t just about cutting words—it’s about connecting on a deeper level. Clarity helps you build trust, align teams, and create messaging that truly resonates with your audience and inspires action. So, whether you’re navigating a flood of AI-generated content or cutting back on jargon-loaded messaging, this conversation is your blueprint for clear, effective communication. In This Episode: 2:23 - Steve introduces himself and shares what he does 4:16 - The importance of clarity in cutting through today’s noisy digital landscape 7:17 - How the brain’s RAS and WIIFM principles make messages stick 9:20 - Staying authentic and relevant amid AI-generated content—and why clarity is the answer 11:50 - Breaking down Steve’s four-step "Clarity Formula" for effective communication 15:03 - How structuring information like a pyramid helps simplify messaging and win over stakeholders while keeping audiences engaged 17:57 - Why timeless communication principles still apply in the age of social media 20:16 - Questions social marketers should ask to ensure their messages are clear and effective 22:14 - Brand examples: what FedEx gets right, and UPS gets wrong about messaging 26:35 - Using “memory darts” to create messaging that drives referrals 31:26 - Steve’s advice for aspiring social pros Resources Visit  for more insights from your favorite social media marketers. /episode/index/show/socialpros/id/33926672

Navigating Social with Your Friendly Neighborhood Gen-Z 11/08/2024

Navigating Social with Your Friendly Neighborhood Gen-Z For the past few years, we’ve seen all kinds of brands scrambling to learn more about their Gen-Z audiences. Cue a wave of brands rushing onto TikTok to learn their secrets… But what about the Gen-Z marketers on the other side of the content? As social media natives, Gen-Z are a goldmine of social media wisdom and insights that could transform your social strategy. In this episode, we hear from Gen-Z Content Strategist, Mitchell Sauve, on how to connect with Gen-Z audiences and what this generation of marketers can do to get ahead on social. Full Episode Details Joining Social Pros this week is Content Strategist Mitchell, a colleague of our host, Hannah! He discusses a little about LT’s content team and how it prioritizes the voices of Gen-Z marketers to create fun, engaging, and scroll-stopping content. We also hear why Mitchell believes Gen-Z is the perfect generation for marketing – bringing adaptability, a love of learning, and a willingness to think outside the box. From leveraging employee-generated content (EGC) to embracing the quirks of social media trends, Mitchell shares insights on how brands can harness the creativity and authenticity of Gen-Z to connect with their audience in meaningful ways. He shares his take on what Gen-Z marketers can do to promote their own skills and grab a seat at the table, plus why handing the reins to your Gen-Z intern could be the smartest move your brand makes! In This Episode: 2:08 - Mitchell gives us an overview of his job as a content strategist 3:10 - How social pros can approach working with non-sexy brands (and stay motivated) 5:40 - How Mitchell stays motivated when working on all types of content 7:54 - Mitchell’s take on how social media platforms and behaviors are changing 10:04 - How to get marketing clients with looking beyond vanity metrics 13:58 - Why employee-generated content is a huge trend today 19:57 - Why a desire to learn and try new things are a Gen-Z marketer’s secret weapon 24:05 - Are Gen-Z afraid of LinkedIn? 29:58 - Mitchell’s top tip for aspiring social pros Resources Visit  for more insights from your favorite social media marketers. /episode/index/show/socialpros/id/33815782

Social Pros Podcast Live at Content Marketing World 11/01/2024

Social Pros Podcast Live at Content Marketing World Coming to you live from Content Marketing World in sunny San Diego, Social Pros brings together content experts Robert Rose, Chief Strategy Officer at Content Marketing Institute, and Amber Naslund, LinkedIn’s Enterprise Sales Leader. Together with host Zontee Hou, they explore strategies for creating real impact on social platforms, building authentic thought leadership, and finding the sweet spot where creativity meets AI. Full Episode Details Robert begins by sharing his journey with Content Marketing World, illustrating how a strong content marketing strategy has evolved from routine busywork to bold, game-changing projects. He emphasizes the need for marketers to “swing for the fences” by creating memorable content that brings real value. His concept of zero-click content encourages marketers to think beyond just drawing traffic—instead, he suggests designing content that fully engages audiences right where they are, from meaty LinkedIn posts to scroll-stopping moments across social. Amber follows with her take on thought leadership and personal branding, drawn from her experience at LinkedIn. She talks about finding the balance between corporate guidelines and the authentic voices of individuals, revealing how brands can empower their people to be credible, relatable representatives. Her approach highlights the value of building genuine connections over polished corporate speak, showing that real credibility often starts with letting employees bring their own voices to the table. In This Episode: 2:55 - The origin story of Content Marketing Institute and Content Marketing World 5:27 - Why marketing teams are stuck in “busy work” and how to break free 6:00 - The power of “swing-for-the-fences” content projects that move the needle 6:29 - The rise of zero-click content and how it’s reshaping social strategy 7:19 - Why AI adoption pressures could lead to missed opportunities 9:05 - “Valuable friction” and why it’s key to smarter, more effective teams 11:46 – Robert’s book ‘Content Marketing Strategy: Harness the Power of Your Brand’s Voice’ 13:42 - What content marketers and marketers in general should have on their radar for 2025 14:05 - Why brands should rethink “other people’s platforms” 15:38 - Robert’s advice for Social Pros 17:10 - What living person Robert would have a video chat with 17:56 - Amber’s journey from marketer to enterprise sales leader at LinkedIn 19:00 - Why thought leadership is essential in today’s digital world 23:06 - Balancing personal brand with corporate storytelling 25:04 - Creating frameworks to shape and strengthen your thought leadership voice 26:51 - Amber’s advice for Social Pros 27:21 - What living person Amber would have a video chat with Resources Visit  for more insights from your favorite social media marketers. /episode/index/show/socialpros/id/33702722

How a Legacy Brand Ran with Their TikTok Boom 10/25/2024

How a Legacy Brand Ran with Their TikTok Boom TikTok’s the place for dance trends, DIY hacks… and, apparently, for reviving iconic products from the ‘80s! When Lenox’s Spice Village collection started trending on the platform, it sparked a social media success story that no-one saw coming. Caitlin Gillard, Social Media Marketing Manager at Lenox, joins us to share how her small but mighty team turned TikTok virality and real-time feedback into a full-on product relaunch, proving that sometimes, the fans know best. Full Episode Details Lenox’s iconic Spice Village collection may have started its journey back in 1989, but thanks to TikTok, it’s making a serious comeback! Who would’ve thought that decades later, a beloved kitchen staple would find a new generation of fans through social media? Caitlin tells us how the Spice Village collection went from nostalgia to viral sensation, sparking a relaunch. Though the Lenox social media team may be small, they certainly didn’t just sit back and watch the buzz unfold—they dove headfirst into the conversation. By listening to what TikTok fans were saying and engaging directly with their feedback, they brought Spice Village back at the original price from 1989! Caitlin explains how this customer-first approach didn’t just revive a beloved product, but also led to new ideas and innovations for the brand’s future. Caitlin also shares how her team manages the balancing act of keeping Lenox active across platforms like Instagram and TikTok. She emphasizes the importance of knowing “who you want to be following you” and how focusing on the right audience helps create genuine, lasting connections. Whether you’re trying to boost engagement or revive a legacy product, Caitlin’s insights offer valuable lessons for any social pro. In This Episode: 2:04 - Caitlin’s role at Lenox and how her small social media team is making a big impact 5:20 - The story behind the Spice Village revival and the importance of social listening 10:32 - How an unexpected TikTok virality took Lenox by surprise and influenced their strategy for engaging younger generations 12:47 - Caitlin reflects on the internal reactions to the TikTok buzz and the valuable lessons learned along the way 16:35 - The coolest moments of the Spice Village revival and a glimpse into future plans at Lenox 17:26 - The importance of real-time feedback and why comments are driving product innovation at Lenox 22:26 - Social media platforms Lenox uses and the strategies for each 24:38 - Caitlin on the importance of knowing "who do we want to be following us" on TikTok 26:56 - How Lenox uses metrics and feedback to tell the full story of their social efforts 35:55 - Caitlin’s top tip for an aspiring social pro Resources Visit  for more insights from your favorite social media marketers. /episode/index/show/socialpros/id/33569732

The Sweet Tooth of Social Media 10/18/2024

The Sweet Tooth of Social Media Candy fans unite! This episode is for you. Grab your favorite flavor of Nerds or indulge in some controversial candy corn and tune in to hear Annie Belgrade, Senior Manager of Integrated Content Marketing at Ferrara Candy Company, talk about finding the sweet spot in your social strategy. Full Episode Details Annie Belgrade joins us in the run-up to Ferrara Candy Company’s busiest time of year aka the “Super Bowl” of candy season, Halloween. With months of advance planning to real-time engagement, she reveals how Ferrara keeps its finger on the pulse of candy conversations across social media. She talks about the challenges of managing multiple brand personalities under Ferrara Candy Company and how her team assigns unique voices to each depending on the audience that favors each brand. Conversations over social media with each brand are the results of tireless manual work, seeking out trending topics and candy talk on each platform. The result? Authentic and relatable content that feels like you’re chatting to a friend with a sweet tooth. We hear how Ferrara Candy Company manages both organic and paid social, and why “LoFi” content is their preferred style over presenting a “polished façade.” As a bonus, Annie also shares a secret recipe that might just convert the candy corn haters. In This Episode: 3:41 - An introduction to Annie’s role at Ferrara Candy Company 4:39 - How Annie’s team manage content during the busy holiday season through social listening and organic engagement 7:22 - The importance of manual work over automation 10:35 - A candy corn combo that might even convert the haters 11:42 - How Annie’s team manages accounts for at least 10 different brands 14:22 - How they determine which brands and platforms get more attention 16:27 - Why paid and organic social should complement each other 18:28 - Why “LoFi” content is gaining popularity 19:22 - What bugs vs. excites Annie about working with social media 21:53 - Annie shares her experience of winning a film fest award on TikTok 25:01 - How Ferrara Candy Company works with influencers and got a surprise endorsement from Kylie Jenner 28:58 - The most important social channels for Annie’s team 30:12 - Annie’s predictions for the future of content and influencer marketing 32:42 - Annie’s top tip for those aiming to become a social pro Resources Visit  for more insights from your favorite social media marketers. /episode/index/show/socialpros/id/33499267

Greatest Hits: Unlocking Better Partnerships - A Deep Dive with Lucy Quick 10/11/2024

Greatest Hits: Unlocking Better Partnerships - A Deep Dive with Lucy Quick How can brands build stronger partnerships with creators? We revisit this ever-important topic with Lucy Quick who joined us last year to talk about the secrets to successfully collaborating with influencers. This episode is a must-listen if you missed it the first time around and want some solid examples and tips on how to build brilliant partnerships with creators. Lucy is the Creator Partnerships Manager of Global E-Commerce Operations at TikTok, and she shares her unique perspective on how brands can tap into the goldmine of influencer marketing and build real partnerships with creators. Full Episode Details It’s one thing collaborating with influencers, but building meaningful, long-term partnerships is no easy feat. So what’s the secret to turning simple collaborations into strong partnerships? Lucy works with both brands and creators at TikTok so we couldn’t pass up on the opportunity to pick her brains. She provides insights on the current state of influencer marketing, reveals what questions brands should be asking, and explains why storytelling with data is the best way to prove your ROI. Plus, Lucy shares why working with macro influencers could be a huge win for your next marketing push and the secrets behind the most successful campaigns she’s worked on. In This Episode: 1:19 - The current state of influencer marketing 5:45 - Questions that brands aren’t asking enough when working with influencers 8:47 - The top trends Lucy is seeing in the industry right now 12:43 - When influencers pivot to becoming competitors with brands 15:46 - How brands can strike a good balance between micro and macro influencers 17:36 - How brands should approach influencers in the early days of their career 19:56 - The best ways to talk about ROI and metrics 22:24 - How to navigate regulations around influencer marketing 24:41 - Lucy tells us about a funny campaign experience 27:05 - The different skill sets required for livestreaming 34:02 - Lucy’s tip for becoming a social pro Resources Visit  for more insights from your favorite social media marketers. /episode/index/show/socialpros/id/33403187

Bridging the Generational Divide on Social 10/04/2024

"Hiding the Veggies" in Higher Ed Social 09/27/2024

"Hiding the Veggies" in Higher Ed Social Curating content for higher ed social channels can be a balancing act. How do you pair fun, engaging, and relatable content with important messages students need to pay attention to? Emily Stulz, the Director of Social Media at the University of Arizona, says it’s all about “hiding the veggies” in your content. Full Episode Details We uncover the secrets behind what makes the University of Arizona’s social content so impactful. Emily reveals her approach to assessing content effectiveness and why sometimes you need the courage to walk away when something isn’t working. She calls this “Marie Kondo-ing” your social accounts. If your strategy is falling short of “sparking joy,” it’s time to say goodbye. Emily’s advice for social pros is to be proactive in all things – whether it’s keeping yourself up to date on trends, using data to measure success, or deciding how and when to pivot your strategy. She offers predictions on the future of social media in higher education, discussing the impact of TikTok and the staying power of Instagram, plus her thoughts on battling against the evolving algorithm and changing audience preferences. In This Episode: 1:45 - Emily explains her role and approach to social media 2:44 - How her team keeps things consistent for flagship accounts 4:58 - Emily’s approach to platform-specific content 6:18 - How her team “hides the veggies” when covering important topics 8:49 - The trick to making sure your strategy doesn’t get overlooked 11:15 - How the university keeps up with social media and algorithm changes 14:46 - Emily’s predictions for TikTok and what people use it for 18:11 - Emily reveals her favorite campaign 21:35 - How her team encourages faculty and students to get involved with campaigns 23:51 - Why you need to 'Marie Kondo' your social accounts 28:11 - Emily’s tip for aspiring social pros Resources Visit  for more insights from your favorite social media marketers. /episode/index/show/socialpros/id/33216577

Nailing Down Paid Social for Your Brand 09/20/2024

Nailing Down Paid Social for Your Brand We see paid social ads every day, scrolling through our feeds, watching YouTube videos… And a lot of the time it can leave us frustrated and eager to swipe past. So how can social pros pause that never-ending scroll and get people interested? Sammy Lent, Creative Strategist and Growth & Acquisition Specialist, joins Social Pros to take us through her strategies for winning the battle against low attention spans and ad-resistant consumers. Full Episode Details Sammy Lent has worked with several different brands on paid social strategies that involve creative solutions to grab attention even when many are tired of endless advertising. Her top takeaway from this episode is to lean into empathy. Understanding consumers is step number one in any marketing push, but as social pros, who are no strangers to scrolling through our feeds, we can tap into the minds of consumers because we are them! In this episode, Sammy breaks down the top differences between paid and organic social, highlighting that they’re two sides of the same coin and can complement each other well. She takes us through some of the creative projects she’s worked on and how platform changes have shifted the way paid social works and compete for attention on your feed. We also hear her take on influencer marketing and why more consumers are resonating with smaller content creators and UGC. In This Episode: 2:07 - Sammy takes us through her career story as a creative strategist for different brands 5:07 - The top differences between organic and paid social 7:10 - How paid and organic social can complement each other 8:35 - Why marketers need to lean into empathy, especially in paid social 14:52 - How social media platforms have changed and how paid advertisers react 19:25 - Why TikTok is the platform Sammy would use if she had to start her career from scratch 22:28 - Predictions for the future of TikTok for advertisers 25:35 - How UGC and influencers fit into paid social today 31:02 - How to connect with Sammy 31:41 - Sammy shares her top tips for aspiring social pros Resources Visit  for more insights from your favorite social media marketers. /episode/index/show/socialpros/id/33123202

Building Ideal Customer Profiles for Social Media Success 09/13/2024

Building Ideal Customer Profiles for Social Media Success A marketing strategy can be full of great, inventive ideas but unless it’s targeted at the right people, you could be flying blind. But how do you narrow down and identify your target market? Katie Robbert, CEO of Trust Insights, works with clients to identify their Ideal Customer Profiles (ICPs) and refine their marketing messages to speak directly to customers. She joins Social Pros to let us in on her strategy for using data insights, AI and targeting messaging. Full Episode Details The best marketing is targeted and specific. It speaks directly to customers who are likely to buy and find value in the solution you provide. It’s marketing that’s elevated by a thorough understanding of a customer’s pain points, needs, and wants, and offers a much-needed solution. But without a clear idea of who those customers are, it’s easy for your marketing to become unfocused and less effective as a result. Enter the ICP, a strategy that helps you align all your marketing efforts to target exactly who you want. Katie Robbert has plenty of experience digging into the details and data of her clients’ best customers to help marketers speak directly to them. In this episode, she explains the value of building an ICP and how using AI tools can help you uncover insights into customers more efficiently. In This Episode: 2:06 - Katie explains her role as CEO and Co-Founder of Trust Insights 5:19 - How ICPs differ from customer personas or archetypes 9:17 - The type of data you need on customers to help you create the best content 10:56 - How the Trust Insights team identifies customer needs 14:34 - How to define or redefine your ICP 17:14 - How to use your ICP for creating targeted information 19:21 - Why you need to decide on a measurement method whenever you implement a new strategy 20:53 - Katie explains how specific an ICP can be 23:19 - How AI tools can help with processing data and finding patterns 25:46 - The next steps after you’ve defined your ICP 28:11 - Where to find more information about Trust Insights 28:34 - Katie’s top tip for aspiring social pros Resources Visit  for more insights from your favorite social media marketers. /episode/index/show/socialpros/id/33020667

Greatest Hits: How Community, Creation, and Culture Fuel Canva's Social 09/06/2024

Greatest Hits: How Community, Creation, and Culture Fuel Canva's Social Canva has opened the doors for just about anyone trying their hand at creating visual content, whether you’re a pro graphic designer or brand new to it all. So, it’s no surprise that it’s an incredibly popular tool for marketers, brands, and social pros alike. We decided to revisit this episode from last year with Jacky Barker, formerly the Social Lead at Canva, to remind ourselves of how Canva’s social strategy brings the brand to life. Full Episode Details Canva is a marketer’s best friend! The smart visual communications platform helps social pros with marketing, building presentations, graphic design, branding, and has even expanded into video editing and website building. As Jacky likes to say in this episode, it offers “the full shebang”! But how has their social media strategy contributed to Canva’s success? Jacky explains in this episode how community and culture are cornerstones of Canva’s ability to stay in the spotlight. We hear about the day-to-day responsibilities of a Social Lead, how Canva identifies target audiences, and how its social team leverages creators, UGC, plus Pinterest and TikTok to reach more people. In This Episode: 1:50 - An introduction to Canva 2:52 - Jacky’s day-to-day responsibilities as a Social Lead 5:12 - Where Canva takes its cultural cues 6:44 - How Canva stays on top of trends in the “creator world” 8:04 - How Canva engages with its super fans 10:57 - How Canva determines its target audience 13:13 - How Canva has changed its messaging around features 16:23 - Canva’s approach to expanding into a global brand 19:35 - Why Pinterest is a big focus for Canva 24:44 - How Canva determines its next steps for the product 29:11 - Jacky’s parting advice for social pros Resources Visit  for more insights from your favorite social media marketers. /episode/index/show/socialpros/id/32892887

A Social Pros Special: Looking At Q4 and 2025 08/30/2024

A Social Pros Special: Looking At Q4 and 2025 What is exciting about social right now, and what are the things that bug you the most? This special episode of Social Pros gathers together Convince & Convert experts to talk about their shared frustrations with social, the future trends they have their eye on, and the potential out there for brands right now... Full Episode Details In this unique, collaborative episode, hosts Daniel Lemin and Hannah Tooker come together with Convince & Convert strategists Sunny Hunt, Jennifer Harmon, and Jason Keath to explore the challenges and opportunities facing social pros today. They talk about their shared belief in the need for platforms to improve moderation systems and the rise of internal creators within brands that are engaging authentically with their audiences. They also discuss the question they hear most frequently from social media leaders – ‘where should I focus my time, energy and budget?’ Plus they share strategies for overcoming analysis paralysis and how to build authenticity and trust in the age of AI. In This Episode: 1:21 - This episode’s guests introduce themselves 4:53 - The inconsistent enforcement of community guidelines and the spread of misinformation 8:00 - Jason highlights the lack of trust in social media and the need to prioritize user experience over profit 9:42 - The rise of inadequately disclosed sponsored partnerships 11:04 - The growing trend of brands hiring internal creators 12:36 - Some of the most common questions from social media leaders 14:17 - The challenge of selling the value of social media to leadership 16:13 - The importance of connecting organic and paid social teams to improve quality and performance of content 22:11 - Things happening in social that marketing teams need to be paying attention to 28:19 - Why you need to be participating in short-form video, especially in B2B 35:44 - How to build authenticity in the age of AI 41:40 - Daniel’s pro tip for aspiring social pros Resources Visit  for more insights from your favorite social media marketers. /episode/index/show/socialpros/id/32776862

An AI Storytelling Masterclass with Mike Allton 08/23/2024

An AI Storytelling Masterclass with Mike Allton Can AI help us to become better storytellers? Your immediate thought might be no, of course not! But while an AI tool won’t craft a compelling narrative out of nowhere, it can help us to become better at our jobs by saving time and acting as an advisor and assistant. For this episode, Mike Allton, the Chief Storyteller at Agorapulse, drops a masterclass on using AI to craft intriguing stories that all marketers and social pros can learn from. Full Episode Details As Chief Storyteller, Mike has fully embraced the new age of AI and shares his experience of learning how AI tools can play a role in storytelling. He shares examples of how AI can streamline research and content preparation and save time on the nitty-gritty work that bogs down creatives. For those new to social media with AI worries, Mike shares advice (and reassurance) and explains the common mistakes even seasoned marketers make when using AI. He makes it clear that it is no magic wand, but it’s powerful – if you use it right. Mike weighs up AI’s strengths and limitations, offering practical advice on when to utilize it in content creation. One example he recommends is using AI to identify gaps in your content strategy, freeing up time for humans while highlighting opportunities for great content in the future. In This Episode: 1:45 - What does Mike’s role as Chief Storyteller involve? 2:31 - What makes a good story? 5:45 - How AI and marketers can work together to tell stories 8:31 - The top thing marketers get wrong with AI 10:57 - How AI can help you find gaps in your content 13:00 - Mike’s advice for overcoming AI wariness and using it to improve your work 19:02 - How humans can differentiate themselves from AI 22:11 - How Agorapulse is integrating AI into the platform 27:06 - The best places to connect with Mike, including his website and podcast 27:32 - Mike’s top tip for aspiring social pros Resources Visit  for more insights from your favorite social media marketers. /episode/index/show/socialpros/id/32654522

Greatest Hits: Creating Harmony in Creative Work with Joél Leon from New York Times Advertising 08/16/2024

Greatest Hits: Creating Harmony in Creative Work with Joél Leon from New York Times Advertising We take a look back at one of our favorite episodes from last year this week. When Joél Leon, Creative Director, T Brand Studio at New York Times Advertising, joined us in episode 601, he brought plenty of wisdom and some mic drop moments. Full Episode Details If you want your creative team to make magic, then you’ve got to foster a healthy environment for them to thrive in. As Creative Director, Joél believes there needs to be more “harmony” within the creative process. And part of that is by building the right environment and leadership. In this episode, we hear Joél’s take on what it means to be a great creative director and why it’s important to trust your team and give them safe spaces to flourish creatively. Joél takes us through some examples of his favorite campaigns he’s worked on and how his team defines success. He explores why it’s necessary to practice what you preach, especially when joining conversations about social issues. In This Episode: 1:39 - Joél explains his role within T Brand Studio 4:54 - How Joél’s team works alongside the newsroom and editorial teams 6:35 - Joél shares some details of campaigns his team has worked on 7:51 - How Joél leads his team to deliver the very best content 12:00 - Joél’s methods for managing expectations and working with brands 15:07 - How leaders can create a healthy work environment 16:50 - How to protect the interests of your team while keeping clients happy 20:07 - Joél shares some of his favorite campaigns to work on 23:42 - How Joél prefers to think about failure and success 26:45 - Finding a harmony between creativity and social issues 30:50 - Why listening is the most active form of communication 31:20 - Joél announces his publishing deal and book 33:03 - Joél’s top tip for those wanting to become a social pro Resources Visit  for more insights from your favorite social media marketers. /episode/index/show/socialpros/id/32455567

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