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Be the Kind of Leader People Remember | A Wisdom Conversation with Bethany Meighen 08/07/2026

Be the Kind of Leader People Remember | A Wisdom Conversation with Bethany Meighen The People Who Shape Us The people who leave the deepest mark on our lives rarely do it with grand gestures. More often, they are parents, mentors, teachers, coaches and friends whose quiet encouragement shapes who we become. Dr. Bethany Meighen has spent her life learning from people like these—and becoming one herself. As President of Concord University, she now helps prepare a new generation of students while preserving the close-knit community that makes Concord distinctive. In this warm and thoughtful conversation, Bethany reflects on the mentors who invested in her, the lessons they passed along and why meaningful influence is often found in small acts of grace, encouragement and care. Why This Episode Matters The people who shape our lives rarely do it with grand gestures. They do it through small, faithful acts of encouragement, grace and care—and if you're navigating a season of change, this conversation is a gentle reminder that you can be that person for someone else. About Our Wise Guest: Dr. Bethany Meighen Dr. Bethany Meighen serves as President of Concord University in Athens, West Virginia. After more than a decade working within the University of North Carolina System, she returned home to West Virginia to lead a public university devoted to changing lives and responding to the needs of its region. A passionate advocate for servant leadership, student success and first-generation college students, Bethany believes leadership is less about authority than it is about helping others flourish. Her perspective has been shaped by family members and mentors who modeled sacrifice, humility, courage and care. She and her husband are raising three sons. Although Bethany carries the responsibility of leading a university, she considers being a wife and mother her most important role. Wisdom Resources to Explore 🎓 Concord University about Concord University, its academic programs, campus community and mission to help students come to learn and go to serve. 💼 Dr. Bethany Meighen on LinkedIn with Bethany and follow her work in higher education leadership, student success and service. 🎧 Related Listening: Brad Lane Bethany's appearance on The Main Thing began with a recommendation from former guest Dr. Brad Lane. to Brad's wisdom conversation and discover the relationship that helped bring Bethany to the podcast. What You'll Discover Why the best leaders remove obstacles instead of creating them The family legacy that shaped Bethany's passion for first-generation college students Three mentors. Three leadership lessons. One lasting philosophy. Why "family is never the wrong answer" How AI can enhance human connection without replacing it Episode Chapters [03:35] — Coming Home [05:29] — The First-Generation Legacy [08:52] — Building a University That Knows Your Name [10:41] — What Servant Leadership Looks Like [13:13] — Three Mentors, Three Leadership Lessons [15:56] — The Legacy She Hopes to Leave [17:11] — Utilizing AI Without Losing Our Humanity [20:16] — Bethany Reveals Her Main Thing [22:20] — Living Out This Wisdom; Application & Action Steps [24:07] — Grace, Trust and One Powerful Leadership Question [25:41] — The Power of Encouragement [26:54] — The Balloon Lady [27:46] — A Final Word for Wisdom Seekers Credits Editor + Technical Advisor Brand + Strategy Advisor PR + Partnerships Advisor Graphic Design + Social Media Stay Connected with Us on Social @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @TheMainThingPod How Can You Help Support the Growth of this Podcast? Become a subscriber. Share the podcast with one or two friends. Follow us on social media @TheMainThingPod Buy some Main Thing Merch from our . Become a patron of the show and with funding. Purchase a book from our curated collection on . Purchase a set of /episode/index/show/themainthing/id/42352110

What's Life Trying to Teach You? | A wisdom conversation with Rick Barron 07/16/2026

What's Life Trying to Teach You? | A wisdom conversation with Rick Barron Welcome back to The Main Thing Podcast! The Teachers We Never Chose Sometimes our greatest teachers don’t stand at the front of a classroom. They arrive disguised as hardship, disappointment, illness, financial pressure, failure or seasons we never would have chosen. When fellow podcaster Rick Barron accepted my invitation to join me on The Main Thing, I expected to hear great stories from his remarkable 42-year career in Silicon Valley. What I didn’t expect was to come away thinking about failure, gratitude, resilience and the unexpected teachers that shape a life. Rick’s journey takes us from a military hospital during the Vietnam War to Apple’s original Macintosh launch, through a frightening battle with melanoma that nearly cost him his left arm, and into a retirement filled with curiosity, mentoring and meaningful conversations. It’s an episode that reminds us wisdom is rarely learned in comfort. Episode Summary Rick Barron has lived several remarkable chapters. He served our country during the Vietnam era. He helped manufacture the original Apple Macintosh. He spent 42 years working for technology leaders including Apple, Hewlett-Packard, Sun Microsystems, Motorola, Symantec and Intel. Today, he is a fellow podcaster whose curiosity and love of storytelling continue to give his retirement fresh purpose. Yet this conversation isn’t ultimately about technology or career success. It’s about what life teaches us. Rick shares unforgettable stories of watching Steve Jobs unveil Apple’s legendary “1984” commercial, receiving a melanoma diagnosis that threatened his arm, facing financial uncertainty with only $53 left in his checking account and encouraging a young intern named Amy Wong toward the career she dreamed of pursuing. Resources to Explore 🎙️ Rick Barron’s Podcast Continue the conversation through about life, culture, history, technology and the lessons hidden beneath the surface. 🍎 Apple’s “1984” Macintosh Commercial and his manufacturing colleagues saw before it was introduced to the world. 🎧 Related Listening: Anita Stubenrauch Hear our earlier with Apple alumna Anita Stubenrauch, who wrote the Apple Credo and offers another fascinating perspective on the company’s formative culture. Why This Episode Matters Every one of us will eventually meet teachers we never would have chosen: failure, illness, loss, disappointment, financial strain or unexpected change. Rick doesn’t minimize those experiences. Instead, he shows us what hardship can produce when we meet it with humility, perseverance and curiosity. For anyone navigating a difficult season—or reconsidering the meaning of one they have already survived—this conversation offers hope, perspective and practical wisdom. A Memorable Quote “Failing is probably gonna be the best lesson you’re gonna learn.” ~ Rick Barron What You’ll Discover What it was like to help manufacture the original Macintosh What military service during the Vietnam War taught Rick about the preciousness of life The Christmas promise that may have saved Rick’s life The lessons hidden inside financial pressure and failure Why curiosity and learning still matter in life’s later chapters About Our Wise Guest - Rick Barron Rick Barron is a podcaster, storyteller, mentor and retired Silicon Valley technology professional. During his 42-year career, he worked for Apple, Hewlett-Packard, Sun Microsystems, Motorola, Symantec and Intel in roles spanning manufacturing, project management, documentation control and more. His life has also included military service during the Vietnam era, helping launch the original Macintosh, surviving melanoma and nearly losing his left arm, and mentoring younger professionals. Rick Barron began podcasting in retirement and discovered a new outlet for his love of writing, research and storytelling. Today, he continues exploring the intricate threads of life’s most compelling stories and passing along what he has learned. Rick joined us from his home in San Jose, California, right in the heart of Silicon Valley. Credits Editor + Technical Advisor Brand + Strategy Advisor PR + Partnerships Advisor Graphic Design + Social Media Stay Connected with Us on Social @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @TheMainThingPod How Can You Help Support the Growth of this Podcast? Become a subscriber. Share the podcast with one or two friends. Follow us on social media @TheMainThingPod Buy some Main Thing Merch from our . Become a patron of the show and with funding. Purchase a book from our curated collection on . /episode/index/show/themainthing/id/42122405

The Practice of Living Well - A Wisdom Conversation with Jacquie Bowen 06/19/2026

The Practice of Living Well - A Wisdom Conversation with Jacquie Bowen Most of us spend our lives looking ahead—to the next goal, the next responsibility, or the next season. But what if wisdom begins by giving our full attention to the moment we're already living? In this thoughtful conversation, Skip sits down with longtime optometrist, respected leader, wife, mother, and lifelong student of wisdom, Dr. Jacquie Bowen. Through stories of family, leadership, adversity, and personal reinvention, Jacquie reminds us that presence, grace, and faithful attention aren't lofty ideals—they're daily decisions. She shares the deeply personal story of launching an optometry practice while navigating profound challenges as a young mother, reflects on decades of servant leadership, and offers practical wisdom for anyone stepping into a new season of life. Why This Episode Matters Whether you're approaching retirement, changing careers, becoming an empty nester, caring for aging parents, or simply sensing that life is inviting you into a new season, this conversation offers steady companionship and practical wisdom. Jacquie reminds us that identities evolve without erasing who we've been, grace is often the wisest response, and the next chapter begins not someday—but in the ordinary choices we make today. In This Conversation Why presence is a daily practice—not a personality trait Learning to release old identities without losing yourself Saying "yes" to opportunities that shape a meaningful life Extending grace to yourself and others during difficult seasons Habits that help us become more attentive, intentional, and fully present More about Our Wise Guest - Dr. Jacquie Bowen Jacquie Bowen is one of those rare people whose wisdom feels immediately livable. She calls Helena, MT her hometown but has been a Coloradan for well over 30 years. She is Doug’s wife of 36 years, Ryley and Jadyn’s mom, and “Grammy” to Phoebe and Daphne for a much shorter time. As a practicing optometrist and Immediate Past President of the American Optometric Association, Dr. Bowen takes her professional role very seriously, and she’s enjoyed caring for her patients through many changes in health care. But she also takes her hobbies seriously as she anticipates and designs the “third third” of her life. She loves the ocean, history, singing, walking and traveling. A committed Christian, Jacquie looks forward to service and volunteerism outside her profession as well as prioritizing health and family. She joined us from her home in Greeley, Colorado, about an hour north of Denver. Settle in for a 40-minute wisdom conversation that will make you feel just a bit more alive, more focused and perhaps even more hopeful. Wisdom Resources — Christian meditation and prayer app recommended by Jacquie American Optometric Association featuring mutual friend Dr. Brad Lane If this conversation encouraged you, consider sharing it with someone who's navigating a new season of life. Wisdom grows when it's shared. Credits Editor + Technical Advisor Brand + Strategy Advisor PR + Partnerships Advisor Marketing, Social Media and Graphic Design Brand Designer Emma Malinoski Episode Chapters [0:00:00] - Welcome to the practice of living [0:06:37] - When life doesn’t go according to plan [0:15:57] - The life behind the person [0:19:19] - Helping people see life [0:24:05] - Jacquie reveals her main thing wisdom [0:27:27] - The gift of an undistracted moment [0:31:23] - Five seconds of presence [0:32:36] - When one identity steps backstage [0:35:15] - Just say yes Stay Connected with Us on Social @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @TheMainThingPod @TheMainThingPod Help Support and Sustain This Podcast Become a subscriber. Share the podcast with one or two friends. Buy a set of Follow us on social media @TheMainThingPod Buy some Main Thing Merch from our . Buy a book from our curated wisdom collection on . Become a patron and with funding. /episode/index/show/themainthing/id/41706585

Ep. 146 - Kate Reed | What Happens When We're Forced to Slow Down? 05/27/2026

Ep. 146 - Kate Reed | What Happens When We're Forced to Slow Down? What Happens When We’re Forced to Slow Down? Wisdom Revisited with Wellness Entrepreneur Kate Reed Three years after first sharing her wisdom to “slow down” on The Main Thing Podcast, Kate Reed returns for a deeply personal conversation. Together, she and Skip explore entrepreneurship, burnout, recovery, mindfulness, and what changed after a traumatic brain injury forced her life into a different rhythm. Kate opens up about leaving a longtime career to build Wonder and Grow full time, learning healthier boundaries around work and family, protecting friendship inside business partnership, and navigating the difficult road of concussion recovery. In this wisdom conversation, they explore what happens when slowing down moves from good advice to absolute necessity. Why This Episode Matters This conversation speaks directly to anyone navigating stress, burnout, overwork, recovery, midlife transition, or the quiet feeling that life is asking them to live differently. Kate’s story is a reminder that healing is not weakness, rest is not failure, and meaningful living often begins when we stop forcing ourselves to move so fast. A Bit More About Our Wise Guest - Kate Reed Kate Reed took the entrepreneurial leap and left her 9-5 job to focus on her start-up “Wonder and Grow.” Today, she focuses full-time on providing coaching and consulting services as mindfulness guide with multiple certifications. Kate is a certified teacher, experienced in yoga, along with various modes of meditation and mindfulness. She helps groups and individual clients build mindfulness practices and connect with nature to overcome stress, anxiety and burnout. In addition to being a wellness entrepreneur and innovator, Kate is also a wife and mother of two teenage children. She joined us from her home in Elkins, West Virginia. Wisdom Awaits You in This New Episode Entrepreneurship and the hidden inner-work it requires Protecting friendship inside business partnership Recovery after a traumatic brain injury Brain fog, memory disruption, and forced rest Why nature became essential to healing Wisdom Resources & Links Wonder & Grow Connect with Kate on Episode 87 of this show - Kate’s prior appearance from 2023 Credits Editor + Technical Advisor Brand + Strategy Advisor PR + Partnerships Advisor Marketing, Social Media and Graphic Design Brand Designer Emma Malinoski Episode Chapters & Timestamps [00:01:59] – Leaving the 9-to-5 for Wonder and Grow Kate reflects on stepping away from Leadership West Virginia to pursue more meaningful work full time. [00:07:21] – The Inner Work of Entrepreneurship Why building a business required more emotional and spiritual work than Kate expected. [00:10:45] – Starting a Business With Your Best Friend Kate shares the challenges—and surprising strength—of building Wonder and Grow alongside Valerie Hart. [00:12:25] – The Snowboarding Accident A joyful family pastime suddenly turns into a life-altering concussion and brain injury. [00:15:01] – Memory Loss, Brain Fog, and Forced Rest Kate describes the emotional and physical realities of concussion recovery and the struggle to truly slow down. [00:17:40] – Healing Through Nature, Stillness, and Care How gentleness, neuroplasticity, mindfulness, and time outdoors became part of the healing process. [00:20:19] – When Memory Is Part of Your Identity Kate opens up about the fear of losing a defining part of herself—and Skip shares his own experience with traumatic brain injury. [00:22:26] – Grace, Softening, and Hope A conversation about caregiving, encouragement, and how relationships adapt after brain injury. [00:24:11] – Wisdom Revisited: Slow Down and Soften Kate revisits her original wisdom and reveals how this season of life has deepened and expanded it. Stay Connected with Us on Social @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @TheMainThingPod @TheMainThingPod Help Support and Sustain This Podcast Become a subscriber. Share the podcast with one or two friends. Buy a set of Follow us on social media @TheMainThingPod Buy some Main Thing Merch from our . Buy a book from our curated wisdom collection on . Become a patron and with funding. /episode/index/show/themainthing/id/41444900

Ep. 145 - Skip's Quips: Who Do We Stop For? 05/13/2026

Ep. 145 - Skip's Quips: Who Do We Stop For? Ep. 145 – Skip’s Quips: Who Do We Stop For? There’s a strange thing that happens to us when we drive. Over time, certain people begin to fade into the scenery—not because we are cruel, but because the human brain is constantly filtering what deserves our attention and what can safely blur into the background. In this short “Skip’s Quips” episode, Skip reflects on a cold spring morning in Appalachia, a man named Jim sitting near an interstate exit, and an unexpected encounter involving two stray dogs on a grassy hillside. Along the way, this essay explores attention, habituation, the identifiable victim effect, emotional distance, and the subtle psychological forces that shape who fully registers in our field of vision—and who slowly disappears into the wallpaper of modern life. This is a reflective conversation about attunement, compassion, and a quietly difficult question: Who do we stop for? Where’s the Special Guest and What’s a “Skip’s Quip?" We are doing something a little different. We will be sharing a wisdom lesson with you—but there won’t be a guest. A short wisdom lesson of less than 10 minutes total. We plan to do these about 5 times a year. We’re calling these special editions - “Skip’s Quips.” Don’t worry, we will still bring you wisdom conversations with our special guests twice a month. Additionally, you will receive “Skip’s Quips” to supplement to our regular wisdom programming. Let us know what you think, and please share your feedback. You can do that via . For More Information About Skip Lineberg Please visit our . Credits Editor + Technical Advisor Brand + Strategy Advisor PR + Partnerships Advisor Graphic Design + Social Media Stay Connected with Us on Social @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @TheMainThingPod How Can You Help Support the Growth of this Podcast? Become a subscriber. Share the podcast with one or two friends. Follow us on social media @TheMainThingPod Buy some Main Thing Merch from our . Become a patron of the show and with funding. Purchase a book from our curated collection on . CHAPTERS + TIMESTAMPS 00:00 – When Human Beings Become Part of the Landscape A reflection on habituation, emotional filtering, and modern attention. 01:35 – A Man Named Jim A roadside encounter unexpectedly becomes personal. 04:38 – Two Dogs on a Hillside Why some suffering immediately captures our compassion. 05:44 – The Leash, the Sign, and Emotional Translation How context changes the way the brain processes vulnerability. 07:20 – Attunement and the Practice of Noticing What meaningful lives and meaningful leadership may have in common. 08:05 – Who Do We Stop For? A closing reflection on attention, visibility, and human connection. /episode/index/show/themainthing/id/41285955

Ep. 144: The Casket Maker's Secret to a Good Life | Marcus Daly 04/24/2026

Ep. 144: The Casket Maker's Secret to a Good Life | Marcus Daly My Wisdom Conversation with Marcus Daly What does a casket maker know about life? More than you might expect. In this deeply thoughtful conversation, Marcus Daly shares how a life spent building caskets has shaped the way he thinks about living, loving, and what ultimately matters. What begins as a conversation about craft and career unfolds into something far more meaningful—touching on loss, purpose, faith, and the quiet choices that shape a good life. A Bit More About Our Wise Guest Marcus is the founder of Marian Caskets, a husband and father of eleven. He’s a former commercial fisherman and boat builder. A craftsman by trade and a student of life by disposition, Marcus brings a grounded, deeply human perspective to questions most of us tend to avoid. From a formative season in Alaska to a deeply personal moment that led him to build his first casket, Marcus offers wisdom that is both practical and profound. This episode doesn’t feel heavy—it feels clarifying, even peaceful. Because at its core is a simple, searching question: Am I living in a way today that I won’t have to run from later? What You’ll Take Away Why thinking about death can sharpen how we live What most of us spend our lives worrying about (it doesn’t matter) Two simple, practical steps to begin living differently—today Closing Thought A good life isn’t built all at once. It’s built one decision at a time—often in quiet, unseen moments—shaped by what we choose to value, who we choose to love, and how we choose to show up. And maybe, just maybe, the end of life isn’t something to fear… but something that reveals whether we’ve been living it well. Wisdom Resources Marcus Daly’s - “Die Human” on YouTube for Marian Caskets documenting Marcus’ work Episode Chapters 00:00 – Why Thinking About the End Changes How We Live Skip opens with wisdom, mortality, and the idea that a good death begins with a good life. 03:15 – Meet Marcus Daly: The Casket Maker Marcus is introduced, along with the unusual work and perspective he brings. 05:10 – How Marcus and Skip are Connected Skip and Marcus reconnect over their college days and Phi Sigma Kappa roots. 06:39 – A Podcast About Life, Death, and Meaning Marcus shares how his work led to deeper reflection through Die Human. 09:19 – Chasing Adventure in Alaska Marcus recalls commercial fishing and the pull toward hard, honest work. 11:41 – From Carpentry to Calling How working with his hands eventually led Marcus toward casket making. 12:34 – The First Casket: A Defining Loss Marcus shares the deeply personal story behind the first casket he built. 15:38 – What Death Reveals About Life How casket making reshaped his perspective on gratitude, priorities, and what endures. 17:44 - Marcus Reveals His Main Thing Wisdom 24:45 – Living It Out: Two Practical Steps Marcus offers simple, actionable ways to begin living differently. Credits Editor + Technical Advisor Brand + Strategy Advisor PR + Partnerships Advisor Graphic Design + Social Media Stay Connected with Us on Social @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @TheMainThingPod How Can You Help Support the Growth of this Podcast? Become a subscriber. Share the podcast with one or two friends. Follow us on social media @TheMainThingPod Buy some Main Thing Merch from our . Become a patron of the show and with funding. Purchase a book from our curated collection on . /episode/index/show/themainthing/id/41007130

Ep. 143 - She Built Green Goo. Then It Was Gone | Jodi Scott 03/27/2026

Ep. 143 - She Built Green Goo. Then It Was Gone | Jodi Scott What happens when the thing you built gets taken away? Jodi Scott founded Green Goo with a simple mission: create clean, all-natural first aid products that actually work. What started in her kitchen grew into a nationally recognized brand. And then—just like that—it was gone. A financing deal fell apart. Ownership slipped away. And Jodi found herself on the outside of the very company she created. Most people would walk away. Jodi didn’t. In this episode, Jodi shares the hard-earned wisdom from the fight to reclaim what was hers—and what that battle revealed about resilience, identity, and the courage to keep going when the outcome is uncertain. Podcast Resources & Links Learn more about The Green Goo store on Connect with Jodi on Why This Episode Matters Loss has a way of stripping things down to the essentials. Sometimes, what you rebuild on the other side is stronger, clearer and more aligned than what you once had. In this episode you’ll learn: Why losing something you built can clarify what actually matters The difference between ownership and identity—and why confusing the two is dangerous How to live a more present, focused life and why being (as opposed to doing) is vitally important today A Bit More About Our Wise Guest - Jodi Scott Jodi Scott is the CEO of Spry Life and founder of Green Goo, an all-natural first aid and body care company known for its commitment to clean ingredients and effective healing solutions. With a background in pre-med studies and a master’s degree in health psychology, Jodi’s work bridges science, plant medicine, and the mind-body connection. Her journey as an entrepreneur is marked not only by innovation—but by resilience, grit, and an unwavering belief in what she built. She joined us from her home near Denver, Colorado. Credits Editor + Technical Advisor Brand + Strategy Advisor Stay Connected with Us on Social @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @TheMainThingPod Support the Show Your support helps us continue to find, capture, and share wisdom that helps us all get better at life. Become a subscriber. Share the podcast with one or two friends. Buy some Main Thing Merch from our . Buy a book from our curated wisdom collection on . Become a patron and with funding. Episode Chapters + Timestamps [0:02:50] – The Moment That Proves It Works Immediate, real-world impact of Green Goo. [0:03:56] - How Skip and Jodi are connected An email that sparked curiosity and collaboration. [0:05:20] – From Kitchen Table to National Brand Jodi’s origin story—family roots and early growth. [0:07:00] – Disruption and Pivoting to a New Business Model Grinding through challenges; fight or flight; being on high-alert. [0:09:50] – Best Laid Plans to Losing It All (and What That Does to You) The emotional and psychological weight of losing the company. [0:13:30] – The Power of a Great Coach (and The Fight to Get It All Back) The long, uncertain road to reclaiming Green Goo; Coach Tim’s guidance [0:17:30] – The Transformation: A New Way to Lead, Think and Be Adversity reshapes how Jodi thinks, leads, and operates; from survival to sovereignty. [0:19:00] - The Turning Point Putting the pieces back together; emerging from the low point, resuming production. [0:21:45] - Changing the Business Model An alternative go-to-market approach without retail shelf space. [0:24:00] – Jodi Reveals Her Main Thing The central idea that reframes everything. [0:26:25] – Training the Mind and Body to Be Present Practical application—how presence is built; Hint - it’s not about putting things on. [0:28:14] – A Daughter, A Test, A Moment of Proof A story that shows presence in action—and legacy. [0:29:40] - Pain Points What to look for in your life; common signs and struggles. [0:32:00] – SHAMAN: A Simple Framework for Living Well Jodi’s memorable system: Sleep, Hydration, Antioxidants, Mindfulness, Avoid, Nature. [0:34:06] – What Adversity Is Really Giving You Skip’s closing reflection—the oyster, the shell and the pearl. /episode/index/show/themainthing/id/40648335

Ep. 142 - Seeing Life Clearly: Wisdom from Dr. Brad Lane 03/05/2026

Ep. 142 - Seeing Life Clearly: Wisdom from Dr. Brad Lane Welcome back to The Main Thing Podcast — your wisdom podcast where we explore insights, stories, and ideas that help us get a little bit better at life. In this episode, host Skip Lineberg sits down with optometrist, author, and community leader Dr. Brad Lane for a thoughtful conversation about mindset, perception, and the power of intentional focus. Brad shares how a simple journaling practice reshaped his daily life, how gratitude and reflection can transform our outlook, and why the human brain often finds exactly what it is looking for. Drawing from both neuroscience and real-life experience, Brad explains the role of the reticular activating system—a powerful mental filter that influences what we notice, believe, and ultimately become. Podcast Resources & Links Get Brad’s book “The Professional’s Daily Balance Journal” on Grab a copy of Brad’s book “Appalachian Son” [links coming soon] Learn more about Connect with Brad on Through stories from his upbringing as the son of a West Virginia coal miner, his journey into optometry, and his work serving communities across the region, Brad offers listeners practical wisdom about how to train the mind, shape perspective, and live with purpose and clarity. This conversation is both reflective and practical—filled with insights you can begin applying immediately. Press play and discover why seeing life clearly begins with choosing what you focus on. What You’ll Learn in This Episode Why journaling can help clear mental clutter and set daily intentions How gratitude and reflection shape the direction of your day The neuroscience behind the reticular activating system and how it impacts your mindset Why negative self-talk can sabotage progress—and how to replace it A Bit More About Our Wise Guest Dr. Brad Lane is a business and community leader and the co-owner and operator of Appalachian Eye Care, a growing regional optometry practice serving communities in Princeton and Beckley, West Virginia, as well as Giles County, Virginia. A native of Mullens, West Virginia and the proud son of a coal miner, Brad earned undergraduate degrees from Concord University and his Doctor of Optometry from the Pennsylvania College of Optometry. He later completed both an MBA and a Master of Education. Dr. Lane is an active advocate for the optometry profession and has served in leadership roles with several professional organizations and councils. He is also a published author whose upcoming second book, Appalachian Son, is scheduled for release in early 2026. Beyond his professional work, Brad is deeply committed to community service. He currently serves as Vice Chairman of the Concord University Board of Governors and supports multiple scholarships and charitable initiatives throughout the region. Brad Lane joins us for this conversation from Princeton, West Virginia. Credits Editor + Technical Advisor Brand + Strategy Advisor PR + Partnerships Advisor Graphic Design + Social Media Stay Connected with Us on Social @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @TheMainThingPod How Can You Help Support the Growth of this Podcast? Become a subscriber. Share the podcast with one or two friends. Purchase a set of our for inspiration. Follow us on social media @TheMainThingPod Buy some Main Thing Merch from our . Become a patron of the show and with funding. Purchase a book from our curated collection on . /episode/index/show/themainthing/id/40324250

Ep. 141 - Switching Microphones with Chip VanAlsburg 02/19/2026

Ep. 141 - Switching Microphones with Chip VanAlsburg When the Mic Turns Around What happens when interviewer becomes interviewee? In this special role-reversal episode of The Main Thing, longtime friend Chip VanAlsburg steps in as host to turn the microphone on Skip Lineberg. Together, they explore the origin story behind the podcast, the deeper spiritual motivation driving it, and what it really takes to distill knowledge into wisdom that helps people get better at life. Pulling Back the Curtain on The Main Thing From childhood conversations with elders to the “Holy Spirit moment” that birthed the show. And from the unseen, labor-intensive work behind each 25-minute episode… Skip pulls back the curtain, as Chip presents his own brand of insightful, soul-piercing questions. On Light, Leadership, and the Long Game The duo also dives into: Why growth isn’t for everyone (and why that’s okay) What it means to live effulgently—radiating light and love Reframing “empty nest” into “spacious nest” The butterfly effect of sharing wisdom And how knowledge becomes wisdom only when it’s lived and shared Last but not least, Chip shares his own emerging vision—an honest, heartfelt look at trauma, healing, storytelling, and what he calls “big medicine.” If you’ve ever wondered why this podcast exists—or what wisdom is really for—this conversation will meet you right where you are. Press play. Reflect deeply. Share generously. A Bit More About Our Wise Guest-Host Chip VanAlsburg is a big thinker with a restless mind and a wide-open heart. He challenges assumptions, pushes boundaries, and rarely accepts “no” as the final answer—especially when curiosity or conviction is involved. Bold and unafraid, Chip has spent more than two decades leading in the media, technology, and telecommunications worlds, holding roles such as General Manager, Vice President, and most recently Director at Lumen Technologies in Pittsburgh. But titles only tell part of the story. Chip is a glutton for experiences, with a voracious appetite for life and learning. He’s an avid user of emojis, deeply fond of laughter, and unashamed of tears when the moment calls for them. His ego is squarely in check, even as his irises stay cranked wide open in a lifelong quest for peace, perspective, and enlightenment. What makes Chip compelling isn’t just what he’s accomplished—it’s how he shows up: courageous, curious, emotionally honest, and fully engaged with the world around him. He brings that same energy and depth to conversation, making him the kind of guest who doesn’t just share insights—he invites reflection. Now, buckle up and get ready to join the duo in exploring the concept of living a good life by pursuing purpose with humility, resilience and faith. This episode was recorded in-person, face-to-face inside Parkwood Studios in Almost Heaven, West Virginia. Resources Podcast for the Newsletter Learn About the Credits Editor + Technical Advisor Brand + Strategy Advisor PR + Partnerships Advisor Marketing, Social Media and Graphic Design Stay Connected with Us on Social @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @TheMainThingPod Help Support and Sustain This Podcast Become a subscriber. Share the podcast with one or two friends. Follow us on social media @TheMainThingPod Buy some Main Thing Merch from our . Buy a book from our curated wisdom collection on . Become a patron and with funding. Episode Chapters [0:00:00] — Intro [0:01:01] — Chip Takes the Mic [0:02:39] — Skip’s Wisdom Origin Story [0:06:25] — Faith & Ministry Behind the Podcast [0:08:54] — Product Extensions - Newsletter & Wisdom Cards [0:11:03] — Effulgent: Light & Love [0:14:58] — Spacious Nesters Reframed [0:16:11] — Behind the Scenes of Podcasting [0:17:40] — Chip Shares His Vision and Big News ### /episode/index/show/themainthing/id/40158390

Ep. 140: An Enlightened Look at the Southern Border – with Gil Gillenwater 01/22/2026

Ep. 140: An Enlightened Look at the Southern Border – with Gil Gillenwater Wisdom, Perspective and Hope on the Border: A Wisdom Conversation with Gil Gillenwater Welcome back to The Main Thing Podcast. We recently engaged in a meaningful and transformative conversation with Gil Gillenwater, a trailblazing humanitarian leader. Gil has devoted his life to serving people in the U.S.–Mexico borderlands. This conversation offers listeners a deeper, more grounded understanding of the southern border, beyond headlines, politics, and talking points. Let’s be clear from the outset: if you think this episode is about free handouts or opening up our borders to everyone, you are sorely mistaken. Your eyes will be dramatically opened when you listen to Gil’s wisdom. What unfolds is a focused, human conversation about dignity, responsibility, faith, and hope—shared by someone who has lived and worked in the borderlands for decades. Podcast Resources & Links Rancho Feliz Charitable Foundation (Gil’s nonprofit): Gil Gillenwater’s book — “Hope on the Border” (From Amazon) Videos about Rancho Feliz Gil and Troy’s Epic 1982 Journey - The Arizona Trail https://www.arizonahighways.com/archive/issues/chapter/Doc.1506.Chapter.7 A Focused Wisdom Conversation This episode invites listeners to elevate their perspective on one of the most complex and misunderstood issues in American life by hearing directly from someone with lived experience on the border. Gil shares what decades of service have taught him about humility, human dignity, leadership, and faith—offering insight that replaces assumption with understanding and reaction with clarity. What You’ll Learn in This Episode How lived experience reshapes our understanding of the U.S.–Mexico border Why responsibility and dignity matter as much as compassion What long-term service teaches us about leadership and humility How faith can inform action without relying on easy answers More About Our Wise Guest Gil Gillenwater is the founder and president of the Rancho Feliz Charitable Foundation, an award-winning nonprofit dedicated to long-term, dignity-centered service in the U.S.–Mexico borderlands. His work has been recognized with Arizona’s highest honor for volunteerism, as well as formal recognition from Mexican authorities. Gil is also the author of Hope on the Border, a deeply human account of life and service in the borderlands, highlighting both hard realities and quiet acts of redemption. Why This Episode Matters Few topics generate more emotion—and less understanding—than America’s southern border. This episode is for anyone willing to have assumptions challenged and perspective expanded. Credits Editor + Technical Advisor Brand + Strategy Advisor PR + Partnerships Advisor Marketing, Social Media and Graphic Design Stay Connected with Us on Social @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @TheMainThingPod Help Support and Sustain This Podcast Become a subscriber. Share the podcast with one or two friends. Follow us on social media @TheMainThingPod Buy some Main Thing Merch from our . Buy a book from our curated wisdom collection on . Become a patron and with funding. Episode Chapters [00:00] — Wisdom, Perspective, and the Need for a Broader View [01:19] — Why the Southern Border Demands Wisdom, Not Sound Bites [02:03] — Meet Gil Gillenwater: A Life Devoted to the Borderlands [03:22] — Walking Arizona and the Power of Public Lands [05:43] — The First Trip That Changed Everything; Skipping Thanksgiving [09:01] — Dignity, Not Handouts: The Lesson That Reshaped His Mission [11:20] — What Americans Aren’t Seeing About the Border [15:01] — Walls, Human Suffering, and Hard Truths [18:11] — Enlightened Self-Interest and the Power of Service [24:21] — Gil’s “Main Thing”: Service as a Portal to an Abundant Life [30:52] — Rancho Feliz and an Invitation to Participate [31:40] — A Parting Word on Interconnection and Shared Humanity /episode/index/show/themainthing/id/39821520

Ep. 139 - Skip's Quips: The Worst Christmas Gift I Ever Recieved 12/20/2025

Ep. 139 - Skip's Quips: The Worst Christmas Gift I Ever Recieved The Worst Christmas Gift I Ever Received Welcome, wisdom-seekers to Skip’s Quips - a Holiday Special Edition! This week on The Main Thing Podcast, we’re doing something a little different — and a little more intimate. No guest. No interview. Just you and me, gathered around a story that has stayed with me for nearly half a century. And it couldn’t be landing at a better time. Today is a week before Christmas, and most of us are feeling the familiar holiday squeeze — the pressure to get it right, to pick the perfect gifts, to keep all the moving parts moving. Before the wrapping paper flies and the chaos peaks, let’s pause to unwrap a story that surprised me… and eventually shaped me. This is the tale of the worst Christmas gift I ever received — and the unexpected wisdom it carried. About This Special Episode In this short Christmas reflection, I take you back to 1976, when ten-year-old Skip unwrapped a gift that left him confused, disappointed, and wondering what he had done wrong. But what I didn’t know then — and what I can see so clearly now — is that the quiet gifts we don’t understand often become the ones that shape our character the most deeply. This story is a reminder that: Some gifts grow on us slowly Love sometimes looks like preparation And the smallest objects can carry the largest lessons It’s my Christmas gift to you today — a little wisdom wrapped in memory, gratitude, and hindsight. Where’s the Special Guest and What’s a “Skip’s Quip?" We are doing something a little different. I’ll be sharing a wisdom lesson with you—but there won’t be a guest. Just me, sharing wisdom. A short wisdom lesson of less than 10 minutes total. We plan to do these about 6 times a year. We’re calling these special editions - “Skip’s Quips.” Don’t worry, we will still bring you wisdom conversations with our special guests twice a month. Additionally, you will receive “Skip’s Quips” to supplement to our regular wisdom programming. Let us know what you think, and please share your feedback. You can do that via . This special “Skip’s Quip” will help you: Reset your heart six days before Christmas See gift-giving through a new, deeper lens Remember the shaping power of work, responsibility, and small tasks For More Information About Skip Lineberg Please visit our . Credits Editor + Technical Advisor Brand + Strategy Advisor PR + Partnerships Advisor Marketing, Social Media and Graphic Design Stay Connected with Us on Social @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @TheMainThingPod @TheMainThingPod Help Support and Sustain This Podcast Become a subscriber. Share the podcast with one or two friends. Follow us on social media @TheMainThingPod Buy some Main Thing Merch from our . Buy a book from our curated wisdom collection on . Become a patron and with funding. /episode/index/show/themainthing/id/39479740

Ep. 138 - Connector Kathleen Walker Shares Timeless Wisdom 12/09/2025

Ep. 138 - Connector Kathleen Walker Shares Timeless Wisdom In this heartfelt and deeply meaningful wisdom conversation, I sit down with Kathleen Walker—a trusted friend of more than 25 years, a respected leadership consultant, an entrepreneur and one of the most compassionate people I know. Kathleen works with leaders, teams, and organizations to strengthen communication, clarity, and performance. But beyond her professional expertise, Kathleen brings a rare blend of empathy, insight, and lived wisdom that has shaped countless lives—including mine. This conversation is an invitation to slow down, look inward, and lead differently. Lead With Love – Leadership, Relationships & the Choice That Changes Everything We explore Kathleen’s powerful “main thing” wisdom—lead with love—and how it applies in both leadership and personal life. From hiring and workplace communication to parenting, grief, friendship, and everyday relationships, Kathleen reveals how love can become a conscious, transformative choice instead of a reaction driven by fear or frustration. You’ll be moved by stories of her father’s influence, her journey as a leader and mother, and the simple daily practices that help her choose love again and again. This conversation is filled with encouragement, perspective, and practical insight you can apply immediately. What You’ll Learn from Our Wisdom Conversation How love transforms leadership, feedback, and workplace culture The difference between reacting in fear and responding in love How relationships directly shape fulfillment, health, and longevity A Bit More About Our Wise Guest Kathleen Walker is the cofounder of Epiphany Consulting, a leadership and assessment firm serving individuals, teams, and organizations. Her professional background spans telecommunications, transportation, healthcare, law, and personal services. She specializes in communication, leadership alignment, hiring, and personal development. Kathleen is a South Charleston native, a devoted wife and mother of two daughters, and a lifelong encourager. She joins us from Charleston, West Virginia. Podcast Resources Learn more about Credits Editor + Technical Advisor Brand + Strategy Advisor PR + Partnerships Advisor Marketing, Social Media and Graphic Design Stay Connected with Us on Social @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @TheMainThingPod Help Support and Sustain This Podcast Become a subscriber. Share the podcast with one or two friends. Follow us on social media @TheMainThingPod Buy some Main Thing Merch from our . Buy a book from our curated wisdom collection on . Become a patron and with funding. Episode Chapters [00:02:45] - Why hiring & onboarding are frustrating; Kathleen’s keys to success [00:04:48] - Kathleen’s elevator pitch; why she loves what she does [00:05:21] - Understanding our communication styles; generational differences [00:06:15] - What she wanted to be when she grew up [00:07:05] - Assessments: key to understanding ourselves and personal impact [00:08:10] - One morning at the bagel shop; how Kathleen & Skip are connected [00:09:37] - Inviting you to support our mission of delivering wisdom to the world [00:10:40] - Kathleen reveals her Main Thing [00:11:11] - The impact of a mentor - Kathleen’s father; wisdom + love in action [00:13:30] - Humanity; three things every human needs (and craves) [00:15:20] - Choosing love over fear [00:18:40] - Seasons of life, friendships and community [00:20:11] - Kathleen shares a parting thought; the butterfly effect [00:22:45] - Skip’s final reflection on Kathleen’s wisdom lesson /episode/index/show/themainthing/id/39336160

Ep. 137 - Golf Pro Chris Breed Shares Inspiring Wisdom 11/20/2025

Ep. 137 - Golf Pro Chris Breed Shares Inspiring Wisdom In this inspiring wisdom‑conversation, I sit down with Chris Breed. He’s not only a top PGA-certified golf instructor, coach, encourager and faith‑driven leader, he is one of the most inspiring people I’ve ever met. FACE Forward - Encouragement, Focus & Faith We explore how Chris’ coaching insights and spiritual perspectives combine to help us live wiser, bolder lives. Chris introduces his “FACE” framework (Focus • Attitude • Commitment • Effort) and shows how it applies not only on the green, but in our everyday journeys of growth and meaning. You will laugh and learn with stories from his golf career, lessons in resilience and encouragement, and practical tools to help you get unstuck, shift perspective and move forward. Chris’ authenticity and positivity will leave you energized and full of confidence. What You’ll Learn from Our Wisdom Conversation Tips on how to give feedback that sticks and helps improve performance Inspiration to apply when you’re feeling discouraged How to find and rejuvenate our confidence when it seems to have disappeared Plus - an inside look at how our faith can spill over and fuel growth in other areas of life A Bit More About Our Wise Guest Chris Breed is a full-time golf professional who works at Berry Hills Country Club in Charleston, West Virginia. He has a passion for growing the game of golf and watching his students' skills grow through his instruction and guidance. Chris loves seeing his students shine on and off the golf course. At an early age, Chris developed a passion for teaching and coaching because of the influenced of his mentor, Ted Sheftic. Chris holds numerous PGA golf certifications. He was recently honored by Golf Digest as the #1 golf instructor in West Virginia for the 2025-2026 season. Chris resides in Charleston with his wife and children. He joins us today from the majestic grounds of Berry Hills Country Club. Podcast Resources Connect with Coach Chris Breed on social media— TikTok: @Chris.Breed7 Instagram: Berry Hills Country Club Credits Editor + Technical Advisor Brand + Strategy Advisor PR + Partnerships Advisor Marketing, Social Media and Graphic Design Stay Connected with Us on Social @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @TheMainThingPod Help Support and Sustain This Podcast Become a subscriber. Share the podcast with one or two friends. Follow us on social media @TheMainThingPod Buy some Main Thing Merch from our . Buy a book from our curated wisdom collection on . Become a patron and with funding. Episode Chapters [0:01:35] - Meet Coach Chris Breed Introduction to Chris's personality, passion, and personal connection to Skip. [0:03:34] - Coaching with Purpose Chris’s coaching approach and heart for personal growth. [0:06:25] - Golf as a Metaphor for Life True or false questions spark deeper life wisdom through the lens of golf. [0:08:49] - The FACE Framework Chris shares his powerful system for performance and mindset: Focus, Attitude, Commitment, Effort. [0:12:42] - Midnight Golf & Fatherhood Warm memories of learning golf with his dad and how that shaped Chris's passion. [0:14:03] - Coaching Styles & Learning Personalities How Chris adapts lessons to fit visual and feel-based learners. [0:16:21] - Coach Chris Breed Reveals His “Main Thing” Wisdom Chris shares his guiding principle in life — and how encouragement creates transformation. [0:20:35] - Coaching His Son Riley Lessons in expectations, patience, and the shift from “impress” to “bless.” [0:24:46] - Faith Through TikTok Using social platforms for spiritual encouragement and sharing daily devotions. [0:26:37] - Anchored by Faith Chris reflects on God’s guidance and staying grounded in turbulent times. /episode/index/show/themainthing/id/39105490

Ep. 136: Choosing Possibility Over Fear with Lindsay Yellin 11/07/2025

Ep. 136: Choosing Possibility Over Fear with Lindsay Yellin Today’s wise guest is an entrepreneurial business owner who has lived and worked in Chicago, London and San Francisco. Lindsay Yellin is creative and bold—and she keeps it very real. She’s worked as an executive in high-pressure industries and now helps other executive leaders in similar environments to cope and thrive. When you listen to this episode you will come away with … Tips and techniques for dealing with fear. Practices you can apply right now - today - for coping with stress and uncertainty. Leadership practices and advice on leading your team during tumultuous times. More About Our Wise Guest Lindsay Yellin Lindsay Yellin is an executive leadership coach who helps high-achieving creative leaders move beyond fear and self-doubt to lead with possibility and self-trust. A former advertising executive, she’s no stranger to high-pressure, high-visibility environments. And she understands firsthand the challenge of staying true to yourself while leading others. Today, Lindsay is a passionate champion and challenger for her clients, helping them unlock their leadership potential through deep self-connection and intentional relationships. She’s also host of a new podcast, “Unfiltered Leadership with Lindsay Yellin.” Beyond coaching, you’ll also find her behind the espresso bar, where her love for sparking connection shows up just as strongly. Whether in a coaching session or over a cup of coffee, her mission is the same: to inspire clarity, courage, and conviction that drive meaningful, lasting change. Lindsay joins us today from her home in Half Moon Bay, California - on the Pacific Coast midway between Silicon Valley and San Francisco. Resources Lindsay Yellin Coaching Lindsay’s Podcast: Watch on Listen on or on Credits Editor + Technical Advisor Brand + Strategy Advisor PR + Partnerships Advisor Marketing, Social Media and Graphic Design Stay Connected with Us on Social @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @TheMainThingPod Help Support and Sustain This Podcast Become a subscriber. Share the podcast with one or two friends. Follow us on social media @TheMainThingPod Buy some Main Thing Merch from our . Buy a book from our curated wisdom collection on . Become a patron and with funding. Episode Chapters [0:03:41] - Meet Lindsay Yellin: A Journey from Agency Life to Coaching [0:04:18] - Lindsay and Skip share how they are connected [0:04:51] - The Power of Place: Chicago Roots and Career Growth [0:05:51] - The Moment Everything Changed [0:06:31] - Fear vs. Possibility: A Practical Reframe [0:08:59] - Coaching for Creative Leaders [0:10:11] - When the Jenga Tower Shakes: Navigating Uncertainty [0:14:59] - Lindsay Yellin Shares Her Main Thing [0:15:18] - Who I Am, Who I Want to Be: Using Values to Lead Yourself [0:20:53] - Self-Compassion Isn’t Soft—It’s Strong [0:25:42] - Final Thoughts: Humanity Over Perfection /episode/index/show/themainthing/id/38953870

Ep. 135 - Conversations with My Mentor John (Pt. Four): The Courage to Change 10/22/2025

Ep. 135 - Conversations with My Mentor John (Pt. Four): The Courage to Change Welcome to a very special wisdom mini-series. This four-part project originates from an archive of rare 2004 recordings of wisdom conversations with my mentor, John Wells Jr. In the truest sense this batch of wisdom has been two decades in the making. Sadly, John passed away in early February 2005, after battling cancer. Those conversations and recordings served as a pre-cursor, perhaps even a prequel to this podcast which launched 15 years later in 2019. The Courage to Change Part Four features what was, perhaps, John’s favorite story to tell, his favorite wisdom lesson. It showcases John’s humility and his lifelong commitment to learning. John Wells Jr never stopped striving to better himself, to improve. That passion fueled his physical fitness, as you heard in Part One, as well as his business acumen, as you’ll hear in this episode. I think this lesson was his favorite because something he was initially opposed to doing, surprised him with such a positive outcome and impact. You see, to John, learning something was more important and more valuable than simply being right about something. As you listen today, you will get a feel for the Well Home Furnishings flagship store, as well as their innovative approach to business and leadership. The wisdom lesson you get in this episode is straightforward and immediately applicable. It provides a powerful illustration of the values of humility and adaptability in business success. It also delivers a strong reminder of the need to be open to—and ready for—change. Let’s face it, that’s not always easy. More About Our Wise Guest - John Wells, Jr. John was one of the most effective and influential mentors in my lifetime. He taught, led and influenced me, opening my eyes and expanding my thinking on those things that truly matter. I was deeply blessed to know him. John was a dedicated retail veteran and community leader who co-founded Wells Home Furnishings. Known for his entrepreneurial spirit, he led his business to award-winning success. Beyond his career, Wells was deeply involved in civic and youth service organizations in Charleston, including the Boys Scouts, YMCA and United Way, among others, reflecting his commitment to community betterment. In 2000, John was honored with the prestigious Ernst Young Entrepreneur of the Year Award. Though he never sought the spotlight, one day the President of the United States, George W. Bush, stood in Charleston and honored John Wells for his service. His legacy is marked by his dedication to his family, his profession and his community, leaving a lasting impact on everyone who knew him. Resources YMCA Spirit of the Valley to John Wells, Jr. (2005) Wells Home Furnishings Conversations with My Mentor John - Conversations with My Mentor John - Conversations with My Mentor John - Credits Special thanks to , Inc. - Diana Sole Walko, CEO/President - for generously supporting and capturing video and audio from these 2004 sessions. Editor + Technical Advisor Brand + Strategy Advisor PR + Partnerships Advisor Marketing, Social Media and Graphic Design Stay Connected with Us on Social @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @TheMainThingPod @TheMainThingPod Help Support and Sustain This Podcast Become a subscriber. Share the podcast with one or two friends. Follow us on social media @TheMainThingPod Buy some Main Thing Merch from our . Buy a book from our curated wisdom collection on . Become a patron and with funding. /episode/index/show/themainthing/id/38737555

Ep. 134 - Conversations with My Mentor John (Pt. Three): A Powerful Phrase for Leaders 10/13/2025

Ep. 134 - Conversations with My Mentor John (Pt. Three): A Powerful Phrase for Leaders This four-part series originates from an archive of rare 2004 recordings of wisdom conversations with my mentor, John Wells Jr. Sadly, John passed away in early February 2005, after battling cancer. Those conversations and recordings served as a pre-cursor, perhaps even a prequel to this podcast which launched 15 years later in 2019. A Powerful Six-Word Phrase for Leaders Part Three of our our mini-series is the shortest of the four. In it, you will discover one of John’s favorite leadership tools. It’s a powerful, six-word phrase that’s easy to grasp, easy to use and easy to master. It holds the power to unlock your leadership potential. Enjoy this concise, practical wisdom lesson from John Wells Jr. As you listen and learn, begin to think where and when you will have the best opportunity to apply it. More About Our Wise Guest - John Wells, Jr. John was one of the most effective and influential mentors in my lifetime. He taught, led and influenced me, opening my eyes and expanding my thinking on those things that truly matter. I was deeply blessed to know him. John was a dedicated retail veteran and community leader who co-founded Wells Home Furnishings after many years working at R.H. Kyle Furniture Co. Known for his entrepreneurial spirit, he led his business to award-winning success and earned induction into the National Wholesale Furniture Association Hall of Fame. Beyond his career, Wells was deeply involved in civic and youth service organizations in Charleston, including the Boys Scouts, YMCA and United Way, among others, reflecting his commitment to community betterment. In 2000, John was honored with the prestigious Ernst Young Entrepreneur of the Year Award. Though he never sought the spotlight, one day the President of the United States, George W. Bush, stood in Charleston and honored John Wells for his service. His legacy is marked by his dedication to his family, his profession and his community, leaving a lasting impact on everyone who knew him. Resources YMCA Spirit of the Valley to John Wells, Jr. (2005) Wells Home Furnishings Credits Special thanks to Motion Masters, Inc. - Diana Sole Walko, CEO/President - for generously supporting and capturing video and audio from these 2004 sessions. Editor + Technical Advisor Brand + Strategy Advisor PR + Partnerships Advisor Marketing, Social Media and Graphic Design Stay Connected with Us on Social @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @TheMainThingPod @TheMainThingPod Help Support and Sustain This Podcast Become a subscriber. Share the podcast with one or two friends. Follow us on social media @TheMainThingPod Buy some Main Thing Merch from our . Buy a book from our curated wisdom collection on . Become a patron and with funding. /episode/index/show/themainthing/id/38558600

Ep. 133 - Conversations with John (Pt. Two): The Art of Visualization 10/07/2025

Ep. 133 - Conversations with John (Pt. Two): The Art of Visualization Welcome to a very special episode and wisdom mini-series. This four-part series originates from an archive of rare 2004 recordings of wisdom conversations with my mentor, John Wells Jr. In the truest sense this batch of wisdom has been two decades in the making. Sadly, John passed away in early February 2005, after battling cancer. Those conversations and recordings served as a pre-cursor, perhaps even a prequel to this podcast which launched 15 years later in 2019. The Art of Visualization In Part Two of our our mini-series, John tells one of his favorite stories. It’s the story of the world’s most famous sculptor, Michelangelo, working to craft the statue of David. This story is a wisdom lesson illustrating the incredible power of belief guided by the art of visualization. When John shared this story with me, it inspired me to take my marketing consulting firm, once a dream, to a greater level of reality. He challenged me to envision the greatest form my business and my life could attain. What might John’s rousing story inspire in you today? More About Our Wise Guest - John Wells, Jr. John was one of the most effective and influential mentors in my lifetime. He taught, led and influenced me, opening my eyes and expanding my thinking on those things that truly matter. I was deeply blessed to know him. John was a dedicated retail veteran and community leader who co-founded Wells Home Furnishings after many years working at R.H. Kyle Furniture Co. Known for his entrepreneurial spirit, he led his business to award-winning success and earned induction into the National Wholesale Furniture Association Hall of Fame. Beyond his career, Wells was deeply involved in civic and youth service organizations in Charleston, including the Boys Scouts, YMCA and United Way, among others, reflecting his commitment to community betterment. His leadership extended to serving as past president of the National Wholesale Furniture Association, where he influenced industry standards and fostered professional growth. Locally, John was known as an effective, tireless leader and chairperson of several charity fundraising drives. In 2000, John was honored with the prestigious Ernst Young Entrepreneur of the Year Award. Though he never sought the spotlight, one day the President of the United States, George W. Bush, stood in Charleston and honored John Wells for his service. His legacy is marked by his dedication to his family, his profession and his community, leaving a lasting impact on everyone who knew him. Resources YMCA Spirit of the Valley to John Wells, Jr. (2005) Wells Home Furnishings Credits Special thanks to Motion Masters, Inc. - Diana Sole Walko, CEO/President - for generously supporting and capturing video and audio from these 2004 sessions. Editor + Technical Advisor Brand + Strategy Advisor PR + Partnerships Advisor Marketing, Social Media and Graphic Design Stay Connected with Us on Social @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @TheMainThingPod @TheMainThingPod Help Support and Sustain This Podcast Become a subscriber. Share the podcast with one or two friends. Follow us on social media @TheMainThingPod Buy some Main Thing Merch from our . Buy a book from our curated wisdom collection on . Become a patron and with funding. Episode Keywords Wisdom, Art, Sculpture, Podcast, Michelangelo, John Wells Jr., Mentor, Visualization, Potential, Resilience, Vision, Leadership, Service, Courage, Insights, Family, Cancer /episode/index/show/themainthing/id/38490295

Ep. 132 - Conversations with John: Seeing the Struggle as an Opportunity 09/26/2025

Ep. 132 - Conversations with John: Seeing the Struggle as an Opportunity Welcome to a very special episode and wisdom mini-series. This four-part series originates from an archive of rare 2004 recordings of wisdom conversations with my mentor, John Wells Jr. Sadly, John passed away in early February 2005, after battling cancer. Those conversations and recordings served as a pre-cursor, perhaps even a prequel to this podcast which launched 15 years later in 2019. In the truest sense this has been two decades in the making. Embracing Adversity with Grace and Resilience Here in Part One our our mini-series, you will hear John share a wisdom lesson with me on the importance of embracing and reframing adversity. Football season is upon us, and appropriately John’s lesson is rooted in a mythical football game. There are victories … and then there are special victories. More About Our Wise Guest - John Wells, Jr. John was one of the most effective and influential mentors in my lifetime. He taught, led and influenced me, opening my eyes and expanding my thinking on those things that truly matter. I was deeply blessed to know him. John was a dedicated retail veteran and community leader who co-founded Wells Home Furnishings after working his years working at R.H. Kyle Furniture Co. Known for his entrepreneurial spirit, he led his business to award-winning success and earned induction into the National Wholesale Furniture Association Hall of Fame. Beyond his career, Wells was deeply involved in civic and youth service organizations in Charleston, including the Boys Scouts, YMCA and United Way, among others, reflecting his commitment to community betterment. His leadership extended to serving as past president of the National Wholesale Furniture Association, where he influenced industry standards and fostered professional growth. Locally, John was known as an effective, tireless leader and chairperson of several charity fundraising drives. His excellence was recognized on the national stage. In 2000, John was honored with the prestigious Ernst Young Entrepreneur of the Year Award. He never sought the spotlight, and yet one day the President of the United States, George W. Bush, stood in Charleston and honored John Wells for his service. His legacy is marked by his dedication to his family, his profession and his community, leaving a lasting impact on everyone who knew him. Resources YMCA Spirit of the Valley to John Wells, Jr. (2005) Wells Home Furnishings Credits Special thanks to Motion Masters, Inc. - Diana Sole Walko, CEO/President - for generously supporting and capturing video and audio from these 2004 sessions. Editor + Technical Advisor Brand + Strategy Advisor PR + Partnerships Advisor Marketing, Social Media and Graphic Design Stay Connected with Us on Social @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @TheMainThingPod @TheMainThingPod Help Support and Sustain This Podcast Become a subscriber. Share the podcast with one or two friends. Follow us on social media @TheMainThingPod Buy some Main Thing Merch from our . Buy a book from our curated wisdom collection on . Become a patron and with funding. /episode/index/show/themainthing/id/38372115

Ep. 131 - Marine Cmdr. Jake Harriman Shares Unifying Wisdom 08/21/2025

Ep. 131 - Marine Cmdr. Jake Harriman Shares Unifying Wisdom From Combat Zones to Community Hubs: Jake Harriman's Journey of Servant Leadership I first heard about Jake Harriman by way of his guest appearance on The Jocko Willink Podcast. Immediately I was drawn to his mission, heart and bias for action. Jake Harriman is a former US Marine Commander who spent more than a decade abroad defending our nation from enemies, terrorism and other global threats. But when Jake retired from active military duty and returned to America, in his words, he no longer recognized the nation he had spent so many years defending. Jake quickly saw that Americans were at war with one another. Rather than just lamenting this sad situation, Jake decided to do something about it, and you'll learn all about that in today's episode. More About Our Wise Guest - Jake Harriman Jake Harriman graduated with distinction from the United States Naval Academy and served seven and a half years in the US Marine Corps as a platoon commander in both the infantry and force recon. Following his service in the military, Jake enrolled at the Stanford Graduate School of Business. Following his service in the military, Jake enrolled at the Stanford Graduate School of Business. While at Stanford, he founded Nuru International to eradicate extreme poverty in the world's most unstable, vulnerable regions, to help end violent extremism. Jake also played a vital role in drafting, introducing and passing groundbreaking new legislation called the Global Fragility Act of 2019 that equips America with new authorities and resources to prevent conflict and stabilize some of the most fragile regions around the world. Today, Jake is the founder and president of More Perfect Union, a veteran-led civic organization that works to unite the country and strengthen our communities through social connection, service and civic engagement. Resources More Perfect Union Nuru International Jake Harriman on Credits Editor + Technical Advisor Brand + Strategy Advisor PR + Partnerships Advisor Marketing, Social Media and Graphic Design Stay Connected with Us on Social @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @TheMainThingPod Help Support and Sustain This Podcast Become a subscriber. Share the podcast with one or two friends. Follow us on social media @TheMainThingPod Buy some Main Thing Merch from our . Buy a book from our curated wisdom collection on . Become a patron and with funding. Episode Chapters [0:03:55] - Wisdom gleaned in West Virginia [0:05:25] - Transformed by combat [0:06:30] - Jake has an epiphany in Southern Iraq [0:11:23] - Lasting meaningful choices; a life focused on mitigating poverty [0:13:40] - Jake’s move to Kenya; challenges, establishing roots, making impact [0:15:55] - A pivotal conversation with Philip [0:17:38] - Jake returns to America; a heartbreaking realization [0:25:38] - Jake shares his Main Thing [0:30:19] - An all-hand-on-deck time for America and its citizens Episode Keywords Wisdom, Servant, Leadership, Marines, Naval Academy, Commander, Poverty, Conflict, Military, More Perfect Union, Community Engagement, West Virginia, Resilience, Integrity, Combat, Iraq, Force Recon, Kenya, Service, Civics, Dehumanization /episode/index/show/themainthing/id/37915545

Ep. 130 - Artist Bryan Boyd Shares Soulful Wisdom 08/08/2025

Ep. 130 - Artist Bryan Boyd Shares Soulful Wisdom Creative expression comes in many forms—and it’s not limited to the arts. Creative expression can be a tremendous, strategic advantage in business, too. The rich, full life of our guest, Bryan Boyd, is a perfect illustration of this wisdom truth. Musical Journeys Meet Marketing Mastery In this rich, colorful wisdom conversation with Bryan Boyd, the ingenious artist and musician, you will discover how someone can blend art, music and entrepreneurship synergistically and successfully. Fresh off a notable performance where he shared the stage with KC and the Sunshine Band, Bryan sheds light on his journey through the realms of business and music. As a leader in marketing and design, Bryan unveils unconventional strategies for cultivating client trust and success authentically and effectively. Discover how urgency and passion, guided by the wisdom of Joseph Campbell's "follow your bliss," can drive excellence in professional and personal spheres. We explore the importance of balancing these principles, not just in business but in nurturing our personal relationships as well. Bryan's insights promise to leave you motivated, reminding us all that passion, coupled with purposeful actions, can indeed create a lasting impact on those around us. A Bit More About Our Wise Guest - Bryan Boyd Bryan Boyd hails from the coalfields of southern West Virginia. He’s the son of legendary, hall-of-fame basketball coach, Jennings Boyd, who guided Northfork High School to eight consecutive AA state championships from 1974 to 1981. Bryan is a gifted musician and vocalist. He performs regularly in three diverse groups including The Velvet Brothers (a Vegas-style show band), Central Standard Time (progressive and contemporary jazz) and Combo Latino (latin fusion). An artist and designer by degree and profession, Bryan continues to explore creative expression through many forms, including visual art and songwriting. He’s been a supporter and member for four decades of the arts and related charitable organizations in our region. An avid fisherman and dog lover, Bryan resides in Charleston, WV with his wife Mary and their one-year-old Australian Shepherd, Rufus. Settle in and get ready. Over the next 30 minutes, you will discover why Bryan Boyd is one of the wisest people I know. Resources Bryan Boyd Creative Group Wikipedia of author Joseph Campbell (mentioned by Bryan in this episode) The Velvet Brothers Credits Editor + Technical Advisor Brand + Strategy Advisor PR + Partnerships Advisor Graphic Design + Social Media Stay Connected with Us on Social @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @TheMainThingPod How Can You Help Support the Growth of this Podcast? Become a subscriber. Share the podcast with one or two friends. Follow us on social media @TheMainThingPod Buy some Main Thing Merch from our . Become a patron of the show and with funding. Purchase a book from our curated collection on . Episode Chapters [0:03:13] - A hot performance on stage; opening up for KC & The Sunshine Band [0:06:28] - Bryan’s journey with music; which came first: music or art? [0:08:51] - How Skip and Bryan are connected [0:10:20] - Client Confidence Through Listening and Creativity [0:12:12] - Doodling, sketching or translating? [0:17:46] - Bryan Boyd reveals his Main Thing wisdom nugget [0:18:21] - The Power of urgency and passion [0:22:15] - Applying Bryan’s main thing in family life [0:24:48] - What happens when you follow your bliss [0:26:20] - A recognition of joy Episode Keywords Wisdom, Creativity, Marketing, Advertising, Client, Trust, Success, Passion, Urgency, Joseph Campbell, Bliss, Family, Balance, Satisfaction, Fulfillment /episode/index/show/themainthing/id/37739270

Ep. 129 - Skip's Quips: Sometimes You Just Have to Say Yes 06/29/2025

Ep. 129 - Skip's Quips: Sometimes You Just Have to Say Yes A productive, peaceful workday morning in 2002, suddenly shifted into a frenzy of quick decision-making and high-profile event planning. What turned it? An unexpected phone call from the White House transformed that ordinary Wednesday into something truly extraordinary. Join me, Skip Lineberg, on "The Main Thing Podcast" as we explore a remarkable tale of seizing unexpected opportunities. Seizing Serendipity: A 4th of July to Remember When my former company, Maple Creative, was invited to assist with President George W. Bush's 4th of July 2002 visit to Ripley, West Virginia, it was all thanks to a former student intern who remembered us. This unexpected opportunity highlights the significance of relationships and the ripple effect they can have on our lives and careers. Beyond that, this unique story illustrates the power of saying “Yes,” even when you don’t yet have all the answers or resources. Join us on this wisdom journey and discover how such moments can shape our lives and careers in the most unforeseen ways. Where’s the Special Guest and What’s a “Skip’s Quip?" We are doing something a little different. I’ll be sharing a wisdom lesson with you—but there won’t be a guest. Just me, sharing wisdom. A short wisdom lesson - about 10 minutes total. We plan to do these about 6 times a year. We’re calling these special editions - “Skip’s Quips.” Don’t worry, we will still bring you wisdom conversations with our special guests twice a month. Additionally, you will receive “Skip’s Quips” to supplement to our regular wisdom programming. Let us know what you think, and please share your feedback. You can do that via . For More Information About Skip Lineberg Please visit our . Credits Editor + Technical Advisor Brand + Strategy Advisor PR + Partnerships Advisor Marketing, Social Media and Graphic Design Stay Connected with Us on Social @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @TheMainThingPod @TheMainThingPod Help Support and Sustain This Podcast Become a subscriber. Share the podcast with one or two friends. Follow us on social media @TheMainThingPod Buy some Main Thing Merch from our . Buy a book from our curated wisdom collection on . Become a patron and with funding. /episode/index/show/themainthing/id/37210090

Ep. 128: Author & Creative Director Pia Leichter's Wisdom Journey 06/11/2025

Ep. 128: Author & Creative Director Pia Leichter's Wisdom Journey What if your life could become a masterpiece of intentional creativity? Join us as we explore this possibility with Pia Leichter, an author, founder, creative director and guide in this special 30-minute episode. Celebrating the Creative Potential Within Us All In our conversation with Pia, we dive into the essence of creativity as a vital force beyond the arts, challenging the common misconception that it exists solely in artistic endeavors. She shares insights on how creativity is akin to teaching and coaching, requiring courage and the willingness to embrace uncertainty. We also explore creativity in unexpected domains, from science to law, and highlight its universality, encouraging everyone to recognize their inherent creative potential, irrespective of their field or background. Shared wisdom and stories, like Pia’s rather spontaneous decision to take a four-week journey on the Trans-Siberian Railway, illustrate how we hold the power to rewrite our narratives. We also delve into practical steps for nurturing creativity in everyday life, from morning routines to visualizing desired outcomes, empowering listeners to take control of their own creative destinies. A Bit More About Our Wise Guest Pia Leichter is a creative partner, published author, certified coach, and entrepreneur. Influenced by her mother’s boldness and her father's artistic background, creativity for Pia Leichter is not limited to traditional art forms. Instead it is a way of life that permeates every decision and every moment. Pia’s journey from Canada to New York and eventually Copenhagen has been nothing short of transformative. A recovering nomad, she’s reported as a journalist in Sri Lanka, graduated summa cum laude from NYU, and worked as an award-winning creative director for some of the biggest brands in the world. Now, as the founder of Kollektiv Studio, she’s uniquely positioned to co-create ventures and wild visions. Pia recently published a book titled, “Welcome to the Creative Club.” Her book is part memoir and part guidebook, and it will challenge everything you thought you knew about creativity. She joins us from her home in Copenhagen, Denmark. Over the next hour, you will discover why Pia Leichter is one of the wisest people I know. Resources Pia’s website Get Pia’s book “Welcome to the Creative Club” via or via Credits Editor + Technical Advisor Brand + Strategy Advisor PR + Partnerships Advisor Marketing, Social Media and Graphic Design Stay Connected with Us on Social @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @TheMainThingPod Help Support and Sustain This Podcast Become a subscriber. Share the podcast with one or two friends. Follow us on social media @TheMainThingPod Buy some Main Thing Merch from our . Buy a book from our curated wisdom collection on . Become a patron and with funding. Episode Chapters 0:06:00 - Are we all born with creativity, or just a few? 0:11:15 - The courage to embrace uncertainty 0:13:24 - Moving with trust instead of fear 0:18:16 - Wisdom versus knowledge 0:24:30 - Pia’s work as creative advisor to rebels, dreamers and misfits 0:30:35 - Pia shares her Main Thing wisdom nugget 0:36:13 - Overcoming fear; the power of choice 0:38:18 - Sovereignty and awareness in life’s experiences 0:41:19 - Creating your desired experience 0:46:12 - Exploring Pia’s new book “Welcome to the Creative Club” 0:50:51 - Reclaiming your creative power 0:54:02 - Pia’s closing thought: embracing uncertainty when creating /episode/index/show/themainthing/id/36956760

Ep. 127 - Sports Reporter Taylor Kennedy Shares Courageous Wisdom 05/13/2025

Ep. 127 - Sports Reporter Taylor Kennedy Shares Courageous Wisdom Taylor Kennedy is a talented, young sports journalist whose career is off to a blazing start, despite some early adversity. He joins us on this episode to share his inspiring journey through the world of sports journalism and mental health. The Journey: From Panic Attacks to Professional Excellence May is Mental Health Awareness Month. Keeping with that theme, Taylor shares openly about his experiences with anxiety and panic attacks. In our conversation, Taylor speaks candidly about facing these challenges head-on and the strength he found in vulnerability. His story is a powerful reminder of the importance of speaking out and seeking support when needed, as well as the impact that mentorship and shared experiences can have on our lives. Taylor's passion for sports, sparked by his father's influence, shines through as he talks about his current job, covering regional sports for his state’s largest newspaper. You’ll hear the pride he takes in creating lasting memories for young athletes. Through anecdotes from Taylor's own days of scholastic sports, listeners are treated to heartwarming stories of camaraderie and the life lessons imparted by coaches. In a heartfelt closing chapter, Taylor recounts the transformative mentorship he received from Tony Caridi and the invaluable guidance he soaked up during his remarkable five-year stint at MetroNews Network. More About Our Wise Guest - Taylor Kennedy Taylor Kennedy is a sports reporter and columnist for the Charleston Gazette-Mail under the HD Media umbrella. Taylor's primary coverage area is the Kanawha Valley of West Virginia, where he focuses upon high school sports, with an occasional splash in WVU and Marshall college athletics. In his spare time, he enjoys watching sports. Taylor has worked alongside a few of West Virginia's most influential media icons, including Tony Caridi, Hoppy Kercheval and Fred Persinger. He served for several years as Producer of the podcast “Three Guys Before the Game.” Taylor is a graduate of West Virginia University. He resides in Charleston, West Virginia. Resources Connect with Taylor on Three Guys Before the Game Charleston Gazette-Mail Credits Editor + Technical Advisor Brand + Strategy Advisor PR + Partnerships Advisor Marketing, Social Media and Graphic Design Stay Connected with Us on Social @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @TheMainThingPod Help Support and Sustain This Podcast Become a subscriber. Share the podcast with one or two friends. Follow us on social media @TheMainThingPod Buy some Main Thing Merch from our . Buy a book from our curated wisdom collection on . Become a patron and with funding. Episode Chapters [0:05:49] - How Skip and Taylor are connected; youth sports; impact of coaches [0:08:35] - Arriving early to the gym or ball field; taking in the scene [0:11:17] - Taylor’s pivotal post on Facebook; sharing with vulnerability [0:13:22] - Navigating panic attacks and mental health [0:22:30] - Taylor shares his main thing wisdom lesson [0:24:22] - Mentorship and gratitude; a father and another "father figure" emerges [0:29:20] - Saturdays with our fathers; WVU football on the radio [0:34:25] - Shattering the stigma: caring for our mental wellness /episode/index/show/themainthing/id/36554080

Ep. 126 - Valerie Hart - From FBI to Intuitive Outdoor Guide 04/14/2025

Ep. 126 - Valerie Hart - From FBI to Intuitive Outdoor Guide Valerie Hart is a coach, guide and company co-founder. She has coached me, hypnotized me, led me on hikes and introduced me to such concepts as QiGong and reframing. In the course of our work together over the past 3 years, she has become my good friend, as well. Valerie’s Wisdom Journey from Science to Serenity Valerie Hart is a former FBI forensic scientist who gave up a coveted, big-city career path in favor of the narrower, wooded paths and moss-lined trails deep in the Monongahela Forest. In this deep, authentic wisdom conversation, you will discover why Valerie made that transition. Plus you’ll learn about: The incredible power of intuition How to listen for and connect with your inner voice Tapping into the inner wisdom that’s already present deep within your soul An upcoming guided nature event with a special discount for listeners More About Our Wise Guest - Valerie Hart A lifelong nature enthusiast, Valerie grew up exploring the wild, wonderful woods of West Virginia. As co-founder of Wonder and Grow and coordinator of Randolph County Outdoors, Valerie helps others cultivate awareness, trust their inner wisdom and deepen their connection with the natural world. This former FBI forensic scientist is now a certified mindful outdoor guide, certified interpretive guide, mindful communication facilitator, yoga instructor and West Virginia master naturalist. In her free time, Valerie finds joy in climbing trees, singing, backpacking, fossil hunting, petting moss and savoring coffee on her front porch. Valerie and her family live in Elkins, West Virginia. Now, a deep, cleansing breath in … and release—slowly exhaling. Over the next 25 minutes you will discover why Valerie Hart is one of the wisest people I know. Resources Wonder and Grow Wild Edge Retreat - Spruce Knob - Aug. 7-10, 2025 - Connect with Valerie on Credits Editor + Technical Advisor Brand + Strategy Advisor PR + Partnerships Advisor Marketing, Social Media and Graphic Design Stay Connected with Us on Social @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @TheMainThingPod Help Support and Sustain This Podcast Become a subscriber. Share the podcast with one or two friends. Follow us on social media @TheMainThingPod Buy some Main Thing Merch from our . Buy a book from our curated wisdom collection on . Become a patron and with funding. Episode Chapters [0:04:30] - How Skip and Valerie are connected [0:05:30] - Working at the FBI [0:10:58] - Valerie shares her main thing [0:12:00] - Intuition - what is it; and how to tap into it? [0:14:08] - Why surprise is not a bad thing [0:18:07] - All about the upcoming Wild Edge Retreat - Aug. 2025 [0:20:58] - Journaling and noticing /episode/index/show/themainthing/id/36136850

Ep. 125: From Military to Ministry - Dave Schutter's Wisdom Journey 03/31/2025

Ep. 125: From Military to Ministry - Dave Schutter's Wisdom Journey What if you could redefine your identity beyond titles and roles? How do you know which path to take when you come upon a fork in the road along life’s journey? Join us, as we explore these profound questions with our remarkably wise guest, Dave Schutter. From Military to Ministry - Dave Schutter’s Wisdom Journey Our special guest Dave Schutter had his sights set on a military career, dreaming of an appointment to West Point. But God had a different plan for his life. From his dreams of West Point to a transformative mission trip to Albania, Dave's journey is a testament to adaptability, faith and finding purpose. Together, we unravel the intricate balance of separating who we are from what we do, sharing experiences from his time as a military chaplain in Afghanistan and his work in pastoral ministry. It's an engaging conversation steeped in life's simple joys and the wisdom found in unexpected places. More about Pastor Dave Schutter Dave is a military veteran, a pastor and a pizza aficionado. Born and raised in Cleveland, Ohio, as the son of a military man, Dave dreamed of attending West Point, but a sports injury prevented him from passing the fitness entrance exam. He didn't give up on that dream and years later Dave qualified for that appointment to the US Military Academy at West Point. But he turned down that opportunity in favor of something different. Today, Dave leads the congregation at Northwest Presbyterian Church as Senior Pastor. Notably in Dave's life, he served as a military Chaplain in the US Army, including an active deployment in Afghanistan. That tour of duty earned him the prestigious Bronze Star. Dave Schutter graduated with a Master of Divinity degree from Covenant Theological Seminary in 1997 and earned a Master of Theology degree from Westminster Seminary in 2017. He completed his undergraduate studies at Miami (Ohio) University in 1993. Dave is also a contributor to the Jonathan Edwards Encyclopedia (Eerdmans, Fall 2017) and the Jonathan Edwards Global Sermon Editing Project. Dave, his wife Kim, and their three children live in the Columbus Ohio area. Resources Connect with Dave on Link to for Dave’s church - Northwest Presbyterian Church Credits Editor + Technical Advisor Brand + Strategy Advisor PR + Partnerships Advisor Marketing, Social Media and Graphic Design Stay Connected with Us on Social @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @TheMainThingPod Help Support and Sustain This Podcast Become a subscriber. Share the podcast with one or two friends. Follow us on social media @TheMainThingPod Buy some Main Thing Merch from our . Buy a book from our curated wisdom collection on . Become a patron and with funding. Episode Chapters [0:03:48] - Skip and Dave pontificate on their shared love of pizza [0:05:48] - Dave’s family military legacy; dreams of West Point [0:07:11] - How Skip and Dave are connected [0:08:50] - Dave shares his main thing [0:10:17] - Identity; Solid advice from a mentor in South Dakota [0:14:16] - Pain points, feelings of shame and wondering if we are enough [0:18:39] - A pivotal trip to Albania [0:21:10] - Dave shares a final thought ### /episode/index/show/themainthing/id/35942620

Ep. 124 - Anita Stubenrauch: Her Creative Journey After Apple 03/13/2025

Ep. 124 - Anita Stubenrauch: Her Creative Journey After Apple Our special, wise guest, Anita Stubenrauch, is one of the most creative people I’ve ever met. She's a writer, speaker, podcaster and entrepreneur. Our paths crossed when she delivered the keynote speech at a conference I attended last November in Austin, TX. Immediately after her presentation, I knew we had to have her on the show. Anita is a former Apple creative professional who spent a significant chunk of her career at Apple's headquarters in Cupertino, California. While working at Apple, Anita was tapped to write the Apple Credo. She also created presentations seen by Steve Jobs and other members of his executive leadership team. After leaving Apple, Anita founded a retreat space nestled in the mountains of California. It's called the Land of Make and Believe. She publishes a high-voltage podcast called "Hyperactive Imagination." Anita also runs a creative consultancy known as Cause Effect Creative, where she provides guidance to brands and brand builders, executives and entrepreneurs. In this enriching episode, you'll discover the main thing Anita has learned in her lifetime. Plus, you'll learn about: the power of storytelling; what it's like to work for one of the world's most storied and admired technology companies; and how a creative powerhouse finds her spark and navigates through the wilderness when that spark eludes her. Anita Stubenrauch joins us today from her home in the hills of Murphys, California. Now buckle up and get ready for a high energy whirlwind experience. Over the next 25 minutes, you will discover why Anita Stubenrauch is one of the wisest people I know. Resources Link to Anita’s website Link to for The Land of Make and Believe Link to for Hyperactive Imagination Credits Editor + Technical Advisor Brand + Strategy Advisor PR + Partnerships Advisor Marketing, Social Media and Graphic Design Stay Connected with Us on Social @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @TheMainThingPod Help Support and Sustain This Podcast Become a subscriber. Share the podcast with one or two friends. Follow us on social media @TheMainThingPod Buy some Main Thing Merch from our . Buy a book from our curated wisdom collection on . Become a patron and with funding. Episode Chapters [0:03:06] - How Skip and Anita met; the power of story [0:05:20] - A fateful visit to the Apple Store in Arizona [0:10:13] - How Anita was chosen to write the Apple Credo [0:13:43] - The Apple Credo, read for us by Anita Stubenrauch [0:16:38] - Anita shares her Main Thing; a time for replenishing [0:19:35] - Anita’s new venture - The Land of Make and Believe [0:23:45] - Anita shares a closing thought to encourage us /episode/index/show/themainthing/id/35664625

Ep. 123 - A Journalist's Wisdom Journey with Hoppy Kercheval 02/14/2025

Ep. 123 - A Journalist's Wisdom Journey with Hoppy Kercheval Hoppy Kercheval, the esteemed “dean of broadcasting” in West Virginia, brings his wealth of experience in journalism to this dynamic episode, offering listeners valuable insights into the art of showing up every day and the transformative power of wisdom. A Broadcaster's Path to Lifelong Learning and Legacy Hoppy, renowned for his work in covering public affairs, politics, and sports, shares personal stories that illuminate the importance of being present and recognizing the pivotal moments that define our paths. We explore Hoppy's unexpected start in journalism during high school, which set him on a remarkable career trajectory, and discuss the subtle signals that might indicate when it's time to step back or retire. Throughout the episode, we underscore the value of lifelong learning and stepping out of comfort zones to embrace diverse perspectives. Today you will discover Hoppy's main thing, the most important wisdom lesson he wants to share from his lifetime and his career. In this rich, authentic wisdom conversation you'll also learn about: Power of seminal moments to shape life's direction and course; What can happen when we're fully present and listening; How beautiful results can flow from simply showing up every day. More About Our Special Guest Hoppy Kercheval Hoppy Kercheval joined West Virginia Radio Corporation in 1976. A founder of MetroNews, Kercheval served as news director until assuming the role of vice president of operations in 1991. In 1993, he created “Metro News Talk Line,” which became the signature program of the network. Hoppy has received a number of honors over the years, including the Mel Burka Award, which is given to the state's top broadcaster. An avid traveler, Hoppy's adventures have taken him to 19 different countries around the world. He and his wife, Karin, live in Morgantown, West Virginia. Resources Link to Hoppy’s company website Link to for 3 Guys Before the Game Hoppy’s treasured - the bike ride across Iowa Credits Editor + Technical Advisor Brand + Strategy Advisor PR + Partnerships Advisor Marketing, Social Media and Graphic Design Stay Connected with Us on Social @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @TheMainThingPod Help Support and Sustain This Podcast Become a subscriber. Share the podcast with one or two friends. Follow us on social media @TheMainThingPod Buy some Main Thing Merch from our . Buy a book from our curated wisdom collection on . Become a patron and with funding. Episode Chapters [0:04:53] - Radio careers and riding a bicycle across Iowa; [0:07:33] - How Hoppy and Skip are connected; Eastern Panhandle roots [0:10:03] - An opportunity, a nudge and a seminal moment [0:12:46] - A deciding factor for Hoppy; knowing when it’s time to move on [0:14:34] - Hoppy shares his Main Thing [0:18:49] - Reflecting on interviews - the good, the bad and the key to it all [0:24:33] - Hoppy’s next chapter; future endeavors; and his legacy [0:28:15] - A parting thought from Hoppy on the value of being fully present Episode Keywords Wisdom, Fairness, Transitions, Hoppy, Kercheval, Journalism, WVU, Mountaineers, Broadcasting, Showing Up, Radio, Podcasting, Talk, TalkLine, Seminal, Retirement, Learning, Growth, Understanding, Curiosity, LGBTQ, Interviews, Anthony, Bourdain, McGraw, Legacy, Balance, Consistency, Dedication, Network, WAJR, WRNR, WXVA, Jefferson, WV, West Virginia, Balance, Credibility, Walter, Cronkite, RAGBRAI, cycling, Iowa, MetroNews /episode/index/show/themainthing/id/35290735

Ep. 122 - Tim Haring Shares Wisdom for Transitions 01/22/2025

Ep. 122 - Tim Haring Shares Wisdom for Transitions Join us on as we embark on a journey of transition and wisdom with our special guest, Tim Haring, founding pastor of Chestnut Ridge Church. With nearly 40 years of leadership and service, Tim recently shifted into retirement, turning over leadership of the organization to his successor. From Northern Lights to Spiritual Insights - Wisdom for Navigating Life’s Transitions Whether you're facing a new leadership role, considering a career change, or moving to a new city, Tim Haring’s reflections provide guidance and encouragement for personal growth and embracing change. Listening to this authentic, soulful and candid conversation, you will come away with— Guidance for navigating life’s major changes, twists and turns Deeper understanding of your emotional and spiritual health Insights on knowing when it’s the right time to retire Hope and encouragement for what’s next As Tim shares his experiences from recent travels to Norway and Honduras, you will hear how witnessing the Northern Lights and speaking at a conference for church leaders in Honduras have enriched his life. Our conversation delves into the transformative concept of emotionally healthy spirituality. This newfound understanding of emotions and empathy in ministry opens doors for Tim to support pastors through coaching and mentoring. Reflecting on his journey, Tim emphasizes the importance of seeking help during major life changes and his ongoing passion for growth, even in retirement. His story inspires us to continually learn and adapt, offering hope and encouragement for anyone navigating transitions. More About Special Guest Tim Haring Tim Haring is the Founding Pastor of Chestnut Ridge Church in Morgantown, West Virginia. He recently retired from his position as Senior Pastor, although he will continue to work part-time at the church. In nearly 40 years of pastoral experience, Tim has been instrumental in helping to plant four additional churches in West Virginia. Together, those form the Ridge Network of Churches. Tim has a pastoral studies degree with a minor in Greek language from Moody Bible Institute and a business degree from West Virginia University. Tim and his wife, Karen, have been married for 36 years. They have five children, one granddaughter and another grandchild on the way. Settle in for a whirlwind wisdom journey from Norway to Honduras and from Columbus to Morgantown, where Tim joins us today. Resources Tim Haring’s book “When God Walked Alone” on Connect with Tim on Grab a copy of the book “Emotionally Healthy Spirituality” from Connect with Tim on Check out the church Tim founded - Credits Editor + Technical Advisor Brand + Strategy Advisor PR + Partnerships Advisor Marketing, Social Media and Graphic Design Stay Connected with Us on Social @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @TheMainThingPod Help Support and Sustain This Podcast Become a subscriber. Share the podcast with one or two friends. Follow us on social media @TheMainThingPod Buy some Main Thing Merch from our . Buy a book from our curated wisdom collection on . Become a patron and with funding. Episode Chapters [0:03:35] - Tim’s recent travels to Norway and Honduras [0:05:40] - How Tim and Skip are connected [0:07:03] - Tim’s transition from founder / leader of Chestnut Ridge to retirement [0:10:06] - Coping with feelings and emotions related to this major change [0:12:08] - Tim reveals his Main Thing [0:13:50] - Emotionally healthy spirituality; Tim candidly shares a weakness [0:18:25] - Discussion of Tim’s work as an author [0:20:03] - Tim leaves us with words of encouragement /episode/index/show/themainthing/id/34961970

Ep. 121 - Season 5 Wrap-Up with Special Guest Rachel Bell 01/09/2025

Ep. 121 - Season 5 Wrap-Up with Special Guest Rachel Bell Join us in a lively celebration of holiday cheer as we gather at Parkwood Studios to wrap gifts with friend of the show, Rachel Bell. “Wrapping Gifts and Unwrapping Wisdom” A festive spirit fills the air as Rachel and Host Skip Lineberg reminisce about memorable moments from past episodes, sharing laughter and witty banter. As the gift-wrapping frenzy unfolds, we explore the profound wisdom shared by our guests this season. These stories underscore the importance of embracing challenges and finding fulfillment through persistence and adaptability, all while highlighting the joyous imperfections of holiday preparations. A surprise guest appears when the wrapping session is interrupted by a persistent courier from Wisdom Delivery Service, an upstart package delivery company. The delivery guy brings a package featuring wisdom from Skip’s past, emphasizing the importance of perspective. Can you guess who plays this cameo role? Atop the campy escapades, amidst the glitter and despite several cornball jokes, you will enjoy highlights and soundbites comprising some of the best wisdom from Season 5. Brief Bio for Rachel Bell Rachel Bell is a book publishing professional and startup founder who is on a mission to propel the book industry forward. She works with authors, distributors, printers and brands to elevate and amplify their stories. Rachel is co-founder of Overcup Press, an award-winning independent publishing company. During the early stages of COVID-19, when the book industry faced supply chain and distributions issues, Rachel founded Printer’s Row, a business-to-business online marketplace. Her previous publishing experience includes Adweek Magazines and Pomegranate Communications. Rachel Bell is driven by the power of books to save us, give us a window into the larger world, and preserve humanity through storytelling. Rachel and husband Pat McDonald reside in Portland, Oregon. Resources (Wizard of Oz Theme) Books, merch, newsletter and more on our . Credits Editor + Technical Advisor Brand + Strategy Advisor PR + Partnerships Advisor Graphic Design + Social Media Stay Connected with Us @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @TheMainThingPod Send us your email to Leave us a voice message on How Can You Help Support the Growth of this Podcast? Become a subscriber. Share the podcast with one or two friends. Follow us on social media @TheMainThingPod Buy some Main Thing Merch from our . Become a patron of the show and with funding. Purchase a book from our curated collection on . Episode Chapters [0:00:01] - The gift wrapping session begins [0:10:40] - Wrapping morphs into rapping [0:19:00] - An interruption; unexpectedly knock on the door by WDS [0:24:00] - Bloopers and out-takes /episode/index/show/themainthing/id/34792975

Ep. 120 - Skip's Quips Two: A Different Perspective 12/12/2024

Ep. 120 - Skip's Quips Two: A Different Perspective This special edition of The Main Thing Podcast isn't just about walking down memory lane; it's about distilling life experiences into actionable wisdom for your personal and professional growth. Join me on this edition of “Skip’s Quips” for a powerful exploration of the importance of perspective on our lives and our work. The Power of Perspective: Insights from a Fast Food Line Ever wonder how a simple job at a fast-food joint can offer profound lessons in leadership and personal growth? Join me, Skip Lineberg, as I take you on a personal journey through my high school years, where two contrasting fast-food managers taught me invaluable life lessons. Discover how a serendipitous tip led me to Ootsie, a McDonald's manager whose gentle yet firm leadership style left a lasting impression on my approach to work and life. Through the lens of my youth, we're revisiting pivotal work experiences that highlight the irreplaceable value of a wise and supportive boss. While a stint at the Red Barn under a rigid manager underscored the importance of leadership style, my time with Ootsie at McDonald's revealed the true essence of professional integrity and the true value of examining things from different perspectives. Where’s the Special Guest and What’s a “Skip’s Quip?" We are doing something a little different. I’ll be sharing a wisdom lesson with you—but there won’t be a guest. Just me, sharing wisdom. A short wisdom lesson - about 9 minutes total. We plan to do these about 6 times a year. We’re calling these special editions - “Skip’s Quips.” Don’t worry, we will still bring you wisdom conversations with our special guests twice a month. Additionally, you will receive “Skip’s Quips” to supplement to our regular wisdom programming. Let us know what you think, and please share your feedback. You can do that via . For More Information About Skip Lineberg Please visit our . Credits Editor + Technical Advisor Brand + Strategy Advisor PR + Partnerships Advisor Marketing, Social Media and Graphic Design Stay Connected with Us on Social @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @themainthingpod @TheMainThingPod @TheMainThingPod Help Support and Sustain This Podcast Become a subscriber. Share the podcast with one or two friends. Follow us on social media @TheMainThingPod Buy some Main Thing Merch from our . Buy a book from our curated wisdom collection on . Become a patron and with funding. /episode/index/show/themainthing/id/34407655

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