Move Smartly: The Podcast
The Move Smartly podcast invites you into data-driven conversations about issues impacting residential real estate in Toronto, across Canada and beyond. Join editor and host Urmi Desai, analyst and broker John Pasalis and other experts as we unpack real estate through a variety of timely market updates, lively discussions and insightful interviews. Here to help you make more informed decisions, whether you are a home buyer, seller, owner or renter, and as a resident and voter — because real estate impacts all of us. New episodes on Fridays. Look for our monthly Real Estate Roundtable with Steve Saretsky (The Loonie Hour Podcast).
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A Look Back 15 Years at Move Smartly and Realosophy - Interview with Urmi Desai
09/19/2025
A Look Back 15 Years at Move Smartly and Realosophy - Interview with Urmi Desai
Today, Move Smartly co-host John Pasalis chats with Move Smartly editor and Realosophy business partner Urmi Desai about her departure from the firm and the Move Smartly show. A lot has changed since John and Urmi began working on a new type of pro-consumer data-focussed real estate brokerage and communications channel back over 15 years ago. We look back on the experiences of building a real estate business, why Urmi’s policy background has allowed her to take on various challenges in the public, private and now, the non-profit sector and her thoughts on Canada’s housing affordability crisis. Follow John x-twitter: , Instagram @john.pasalis or email: Follow the show on x-twitter: , Instagram , or email: About This Show The Move Smartly show is hosted by John Pasalis, President and Broker of Realosophy Realty. MoveSmartly.com and its media channels on YouTube and various podcast platforms are powered by Realosophy Realty in Toronto, Canada. You can also watch this episode on our MoveSmartly YouTube channel here: y If you enjoy our show and find it useful, please like, subscribe, share, review and comment on whatever platform you are watching or listening to us from - we appreciate your support!
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The Hidden Distress Reshaping Toronto Condo Market — September Toronto Area Real Estate Market Live Update & Q/A
09/12/2025
The Hidden Distress Reshaping Toronto Condo Market — September Toronto Area Real Estate Market Live Update & Q/A
Each month, show co-host John Pasalis presents his latest data and top stories on Toronto area real estate in conversation with fellow Realosophy agents, Peter Karlos and Davin McMahon, and our Move Smartly mortgage expert, David Larock - and you, our viewers, who join the conversation in our live chat hosted by Move Smartly Editor Urmi Desai to make this is one of our liveliest segments! This week, John and his team discuss conditions in a market - how are individual buyers and sellers navigating house and condo price drops? Dave Larock, our mortgage expert, explains how the latest in US and Canadian news will impact our rates. As usual our engaged viewers and listeners have plenty of consumer questions about what’s next for their real estate moves, mortgage rates and more. Set-up a meeting with John Pasalis and his agents at Realosophy to discuss your own real estate questions privately: Sign up for our email list to be alerted to the next online market update to join our YouTube session live chat and ask your own Qs: Today's show links: John's latest monthly Toronto area real estate market report on MoveSmartly.com: Dave Larock's latest weekly blog post on mortgage rates on MoveSmartly.com: Why Canada Only Builds Micro Condos — And What We Can Do About It: Contact Us John Pasalis, President and Broker, Realosophy Realty, Toronto | Email: | X-Twitter: David Larock, Mortgage Broker and Analyst and Realtor | Email: | X-Twitter: Urmi Desai, Editor, Move Smartly | Email: | X-Twitter: About This Show The Move Smartly show is co-hosted by Urmi Desai, Editor of Move Smartly, and John Pasalis, President and Broker of Realosophy Realty. MoveSmartly.com and its media channels on YouTube and various podcast platforms are powered by Realosophy Realty in Toronto, Canada. You can also watch this and every episode on our MoveSmartly YouTube channel here: If you enjoy our show and find it useful, please subscribe and leave us a positive rating on whatever platform you are watching or listening to us from — thank you!
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Is Real Estate Now a Bad Investment in Canada? — Toronto & Vancouver Real Estate Roundtable September 2025
09/05/2025
Is Real Estate Now a Bad Investment in Canada? — Toronto & Vancouver Real Estate Roundtable September 2025
We’re back from our summer hiatus - and back to work! Move Smartly Editor and Host, Urmi, once again speaks to John and Steve on what is going on in the data and on the ground in Toronto and Vancouver. This month, more sales but some surprising price drops continuing not only in condos but house sector. Plus, how will interest rates, economic uncertainty and headlines about a condo market collapse play into consumer sentiment? And, an Ontario real estate brokerage scandal puts (another) black eye on the industry. Contact Us Follow Steve on X-Twitter @SteveSaretsky; Email at: Follow John on X-Twitter @JohnPasalis; Email at: Follow Urmi on X-Twitter @MoveSmartly; Email at: About This Roundtable Series Each month, Move Smartly.com editor, Urmi Desai, talks to John Pasalis, Housing Analyst, Broker and President of Realosophy Realty in Toronto, and Steve Saretsky, Housing Analyst and Realtor at the Oakwin Realty Group at Oakwin Realty in Vancouver about the latest data and on-the-ground insights in Canada's biggest residential RE markets. (Thanks to Jesse Bains, now at Linked In News, for kicking off this series at Yahoo Finance originally!) About This Show The Move Smartly show is co-hosted by Urmi Desai, Editor of Move Smartly, and John Pasalis, President and Broker of Realosophy Realty. MoveSmartly.com and its media channels on YouTube and various podcast platforms are powered by Realosophy Realty in Toronto, Canada. You can also watch this episode on our MoveSmartly YouTube channel here: If you enjoy our show and find it useful, please like, subscribe, share, review and comment on whatever platform you are watching or listening to us from - we appreciate your support!
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A Few More Buyers, A Lot More Listings — August Toronto Area Real Estate Market Live Update & Q/A
08/15/2025
A Few More Buyers, A Lot More Listings — August Toronto Area Real Estate Market Live Update & Q/A
Each month, show co-host John Pasalis presents his latest data and top stories on Toronto area real estate in conversation with fellow Realosophy agents, Anastasia Spozito and Davin McMahon, and our Move Smartly mortgage expert, David Larock - and you, our viewers, who join the conversation in our live chat hosted by Move Smartly Editor Urmi Desai to make this is one of our liveliest segments! This week, John and his team discuss conditions in a market that sees some buyers motivated as prices drop — but how will sellers respond? Dave Larock, our mortgage expert, explains how the latest in US and Canadian news will impact our rates. As usual our engaged viewers and listeners have plenty of consumer questions about what’s next for their real estate moves, mortgage rates and more. Set-up a meeting with John Pasalis and his agents at Realosophy to discuss your own real estate questions privately: Sign up for our email list to be alerted to the next online market update to join our YouTube session live chat and ask your own Qs: Today's show links: John's latest monthly Toronto area real estate market report on MoveSmartly.com: Dave Larock's latest weekly blog post on mortgage rates on MoveSmartly.com: Contact Us John Pasalis, President and Broker, Realosophy Realty, Toronto | Email: | X-Twitter: David Larock, Mortgage Broker and Analyst and Realtor | Email: | X-Twitter: Urmi Desai, Editor, Move Smartly | Email: | X-Twitter: About This Show The Move Smartly show is co-hosted by Urmi Desai, Editor of Move Smartly, and John Pasalis, President and Broker of Realosophy Realty. MoveSmartly.com and its media channels on YouTube and various podcast platforms are powered by Realosophy Realty in Toronto, Canada. You can also watch this and every episode on our MoveSmartly YouTube channel here: If you enjoy our show and find it useful, please subscribe and leave us a positive rating on whatever platform you are watching or listening to us from — thank you
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Slight Sales Bump — But For How Long? — Toronto & Vancouver Real Estate Roundtable August 2025
08/08/2025
Slight Sales Bump — But For How Long? — Toronto & Vancouver Real Estate Roundtable August 2025
Move Smartly Editor and Host, Urmi, once again speaks to John and Steve on what is going on in the data and on the ground in Toronto and Vancouver. This month, some surprising signs of more activity with an uptick in sales in both markets, while prices remain under pressure. Plus, what influences home buyers more — interest rate news or Canada-US trade uncertainty? And BC tries to get new construction going with a change to development charges — will it work? Contact Us Follow Steve on X-Twitter @SteveSaretsky; Email at: Follow John on X-Twitter @JohnPasalis; Email at: Follow Urmi on X-Twitter @MoveSmartly; Email at: About This Roundtable Series Each month, Move Smartly.com editor, Urmi Desai, talks to John Pasalis, Housing Analyst, Broker and President of Realosophy Realty in Toronto, and Steve Saretsky, Housing Analyst and Realtor at the Oakwin Realty Group at Oakwin Realty in Vancouver about the latest data and on-the-ground insights in Canada's biggest residential RE markets. (Thanks to Jesse Bains, now at Linked In News, for kicking off this series at Yahoo Finance originally!) About This Show The Move Smartly show is co-hosted by Urmi Desai, Editor of Move Smartly, and John Pasalis, President and Broker of Realosophy Realty. MoveSmartly.com and its media channels on YouTube and various podcast platforms are powered by Realosophy Realty in Toronto, Canada. You can also watch this episode on our MoveSmartly YouTube channel here: If you enjoy our show and find it useful, please like, subscribe, share, review and comment on whatever platform you are watching or listening to us from - we appreciate your support!
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Has Canada’s Housing Market Hit Bottom or Just Getting Started?
08/01/2025
Has Canada’s Housing Market Hit Bottom or Just Getting Started?
In this episode, I’m joined by Robert Kavcic, Senior Economist at BMO, to unpack the real state of Canada’s economy amid growing public uncertainty. Despite rising interest rates, global trade tensions, and fears of a looming recession, Canadians are still spending, stock markets are climbing, and unemployment is rising more slowly than expected. So—are we in trouble, or are fears overblown? We explore the economic crosscurrents shaping 2025, from trade negotiations and tariff threats to what’s really driving up mortgage rates. We also dive into Canada’s housing market, where psychology has shifted, construction is stalling, and many are wondering whether the market has found its bottom—or if more pain is ahead. Contact Us John Pasalis, President and Broker, Realosophy Realty, Toronto | Email: | X-Twitter: @JohnPasalis Urmi Desai, Editor, Move Smartly | Email: | X-Twitter: @MoveSmartly About This Show The Move Smartly show is co-hosted by Urmi Desai, Editor of Move Smartly, and John Pasalis, President and Broker of Realosophy Realty. MoveSmartly.com and its media channels on YouTube and various podcast platforms are powered by Realosophy Realty in Toronto, Canada. You can also watch this and every episode on our MoveSmartly YouTube channel here: If you enjoy our show and find it useful, please subscribe and leave us a positive rating on whatever platform you are watching or listening to us from — thank you!
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If Affordability is the Goal, Why Are Some Panicking That Home Prices and Rents Are Finally Falling?
07/25/2025
If Affordability is the Goal, Why Are Some Panicking That Home Prices and Rents Are Finally Falling?
Today, Move Smartly editor Urmi Desai discusses a key hot topic in Canadian real estate with co-host John Pasalis of Realosophy Realty in Toronto. In the last few years, we have been told by experts and advocates that removing all barriers to supply — including taxes, zoning and other government regulations — is the key to restoring housing affordability as builders will build, build, build enough homes to restore supply and demand balance — resulting in falling prices. But now that home prices and rents are finally falling in Ontario and BC, housing starts have come to a standstill. Why do we believe developers would keep building amidst falling prices? Follow John x-twitter: , Instagram @john.pasalis or email: Follow the show on x-twitter: , Instagram , or email: About This Show The Move Smartly show is co-hosted by Urmi Desai, Editor of Move Smartly, and John Pasalis, President and Broker of Realosophy Realty. MoveSmartly.com and its media channels on YouTube and various podcast platforms are powered by Realosophy Realty in Toronto, Canada. You can also watch this episode on our MoveSmartly YouTube channel here: y If you enjoy our show and find it useful, please like, subscribe, share, review and comment on whatever platform you are watching or listening to us from - we appreciate your support!
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Why Canada Only Builds Micro Condos — And What We Can Do About It
07/18/2025
Why Canada Only Builds Micro Condos — And What We Can Do About It
Toronto has become a global poster child for the micro-condo — tiny units designed not for families, but for investors. We’re told that’s just how the system works: developers need investors to pre-buy units years before anything gets built, because regular buyers won’t take that kind of risk. But is that really true? Or is it a choice we’ve made — one that’s locked us into building housing that doesn’t actually serve the people who need it? In this episode, John and Urmi speak with Pouyan Safapour, President of Devron Developments, who argues that Canada’s pre-construction financing model is at the root of the problem. While cities like New York, Berlin, and London build first and sell later, Canada relies heavily on speculative investor capital — and ends up building the wrong kind of supply. They unpack how our current system works, why it’s failing, and what it would take to shift toward a model that puts end-users — not speculators — at the centre of condo development. Contact Us John Pasalis, President and Broker, Realosophy Realty, Toronto | Email: | X-Twitter: David Larock, Mortgage Broker and Analyst and Realtor | Email: | X-Twitter: Urmi Desai, Editor, Move Smartly | Email: | X-Twitter: About This Show The Move Smartly show is co-hosted by Urmi Desai, Editor of Move Smartly, and John Pasalis, President and Broker of Realosophy Realty. MoveSmartly.com and its media channels on YouTube and various podcast platforms are powered by Realosophy Realty in Toronto, Canada. You can also watch this and every episode on our MoveSmartly YouTube channel here: If you enjoy our show and find it useful, please subscribe and leave us a positive rating on whatever platform you are watching or listening to us from — thank you!
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More Homes, Fewer Buyers: GTA Housing Faces a New Test — July Toronto Area Real Estate Market Live Update & Q/A
07/11/2025
More Homes, Fewer Buyers: GTA Housing Faces a New Test — July Toronto Area Real Estate Market Live Update & Q/A
Each month, show co-host John Pasalis presents his latest data and top stories on Toronto area real estate in conversation with fellow Realosophy agents, Gus Papaioannou, and our Move Smartly mortgage expert, David Larock - and you, our viewers, who join the conversation in our live chat hosted by Move Smartly Editor Urmi Desai to make this is one of our liveliest segments! This week, John and his team discuss conditions in a market that has not been that familiar to the Toronto area for some time - as more homes hit the market for sale, and fewer buyers are confident to jump in, which segments of the market are most vulnerable to price drops? And how will the US Trump Administration’s “Big Beautiful Bill” affect Canada’s housing market? As usual our engaged viewers and listeners have plenty of consumer questions about what’s next for their real estate moves, mortgage rates and more. Set-up a meeting with John Pasalis and his agents at Realosophy to discuss your own real estate questions privately: Sign up for our email list to be alerted to the next online market update to join our YouTube session live chat and ask your own Qs: Today's show links: Sign up for John's 30 Minute Info Session - The Smart Way to Upsize In an Uncertain Market: John's latest monthly Toronto area real estate market report on MoveSmartly.com: Dave Larock's latest weekly blog post on mortgage rates on MoveSmartly.com: Contact Us John Pasalis, President and Broker, Realosophy Realty, Toronto | Email: | X-Twitter: David Larock, Mortgage Broker and Analyst and Realtor | Email: | X-Twitter: Urmi Desai, Editor, Move Smartly | Email: | X-Twitter: About This Show The Move Smartly show is co-hosted by Urmi Desai, Editor of Move Smartly, and John Pasalis, President and Broker of Realosophy Realty. MoveSmartly.com and its media channels on YouTube and various podcast platforms are powered by Realosophy Realty in Toronto, Canada. You can also watch this and every episode on our MoveSmartly YouTube channel here: If you enjoy our show and find it useful, please subscribe and leave us a positive rating on whatever platform you are watching or listening to us from — thank you!
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Canadian Housing Market Remains at a Standstill — Toronto & Vancouver Real Estate Roundtable July 2025
07/04/2025
Canadian Housing Market Remains at a Standstill — Toronto & Vancouver Real Estate Roundtable July 2025
Move Smartly Editor and Host, Urmi, once again speaks to John and Steve on what is going on in the data and on the ground in Toronto and Vancouver. We heard how historic low sales continue to play out on the ground. Plus, are trade blues the only thing worrying Canadians about the economy? And why as our national housing agency giving up on housing affordability - and why can’t supply be a solution? Contact Us Follow Steve on X-Twitter @SteveSaretsky; Email at: Follow John on X-Twitter @JohnPasalis; Email at: Follow Urmi on X-Twitter @MoveSmartly; Email at: About This Roundtable Series Each month, Move Smartly.com editor, Urmi Desai, talks to John Pasalis, Housing Analyst, Broker and President of Realosophy Realty in Toronto, and Steve Saretsky, Housing Analyst and Realtor at the Oakwin Realty Group at Oakwin Realty in Vancouver about the latest data and on-the-ground insights in Canada's biggest residential RE markets. (Thanks to Jesse Bains, now at Linked In News, for kicking off this series at Yahoo Finance originally!) About This Show The Move Smartly show is co-hosted by Urmi Desai, Editor of Move Smartly, and John Pasalis, President and Broker of Realosophy Realty. MoveSmartly.com and its media channels on YouTube and various podcast platforms are powered by Realosophy Realty in Toronto, Canada. You can also watch this episode on our MoveSmartly YouTube channel here: If you enjoy our show and find it useful, please like, subscribe, share, review and comment on whatever platform you are watching or listening to us from - we appreciate your support!
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Waiting For Home Prices to Fall/Worried About Home Prices Falling — ‘The Situation’ Consumer Q&A - June 2025
06/27/2025
Waiting For Home Prices to Fall/Worried About Home Prices Falling — ‘The Situation’ Consumer Q&A - June 2025
Today’s episode is our monthly ‘The Situation’ consumer Q/A segment - Urmi once again asks John to respond to the detailed questions you send in about the real estate decisions you are making as you navigate through the Toronto area housing market. Today, we two concerned sets of parents - one worried that their kids are waiting too long for home prices to fall before buying — the other worried about the value of their kid’s condo falling. And, is now the time to ask your buyer agent for a commission discount? Show links: “Rookie Mistake!” - David Fleming - : If you would like to send in your question to be considered for a future episode, please email If you have a real estate situation you would like to discuss with John in private, please connect with John at Connect with Us John Pasalis, President and Broker, Realosophy Realty, Toronto | Email: | Twitter: Urmi Desai, Editor, Move Smartly | Email: | X-Twitter: About This Show The Move Smartly show is co-hosted by Urmi Desai, Editor of Move Smartly, and John Pasalis, President and Broker of Realosophy Realty. MoveSmartly.com and its media channels on YouTube and various podcast platforms are powered by Realosophy Realty in Toronto, Canada. You can also watch this and every podcast episode on our MoveSmartly YouTube channel here: If you enjoy our show and find it useful, please subscribe and leave us a positive rating on whatever platform you are watching or listening to us from - thank you!
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Heroes or Villains? Debating the Role of Investors in Canadian Real Estate with Dan Foch
06/20/2025
Heroes or Villains? Debating the Role of Investors in Canadian Real Estate with Dan Foch
Today, MoveSmartly.com Editor Urmi hosts a special debate/conversation between our guest, Daniel Foch (pro), and co-host John Pasalis of Realosophy Realty in Toronto (against). Daniel Foch is the Chief Real Estate Officer at Valery.ca and host of Canada’s #1 real estate podcast. As co-founder of The Habistat, the onboard data science platform for TRREB and Proptx, he has helped make the real estate industry more transparent by using real-time housing market data to inform decision-making for key stakeholders. With over 15 years of experience in the real estate industry, Daniel has advised a broad spectrum of market participants, from all three levels of government to some of Canada’s largest developers. Follow the show and send your questions and feedback via: Twitter: @MoveSmartly Instagram:Email: Show Notes: John's kickoff tweet:Follow John on X (Twitter): Dan’s response tweet:Follow Dan on X (Twitter): About This Show The Move Smartly show is co-hosted by Urmi Desai, Editor of MoveSmartly.com, and John Pasalis, President and Broker of Realosophy Realty. MoveSmartly.com and its media channels on YouTube and various podcast platforms are powered by Realosophy Realty in Toronto, Canada. You can also watch this episode on our If you enjoy our show and find it useful, please like, subscribe, share, review, and comment on whatever platform you’re watching or listening on—we appreciate your support!
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The Housing Market Has Stalled - What to Know for Sellers and Buyers — June Toronto Area Real Estate Market Live Update & Q/A
06/13/2025
The Housing Market Has Stalled - What to Know for Sellers and Buyers — June Toronto Area Real Estate Market Live Update & Q/A
Each month, show co-host John Pasalis presents his latest data and top stories on Toronto area real estate in conversation with fellow Realosophy agents, Anastasia Spozito and Davin McMahon, and our Move Smartly mortgage expert, David Larock - and you, our viewers, who join the conversation in our live chat hosted by Move Smartly Editor Urmi Desai to make this is one of our liveliest segments! This week, John and his team discuss conditions in a stalled market - how sellers are reacting to changed market conditions, whether there are any safe buyer opportunities and how will US-trade threats impact the market going forward. As usual our engaged viewers and listeners have plenty of consumer questions about what’s next for their real estate moves, mortgage rates and more. Set-up a meeting with John Pasalis and his agents at Realosophy to discuss your own real estate questions privately: Sign up for our email list to be alerted to the next online market update to join our YouTube session live chat and ask your own Qs: Today's show links: To learn about John’s new homebuying/selling right now session - email with the subject line “Smart” John's latest monthly Toronto area real estate market report on MoveSmartly.com: Dave Larock's latest weekly blog post on mortgage rates on MoveSmartly.com: Contact Us John Pasalis, President and Broker, Realosophy Realty, Toronto | Email: | X-Twitter: David Larock, Mortgage Broker and Analyst and Realtor | Email: | X-Twitter: Urmi Desai, Editor, Move Smartly | Email: | X-Twitter: About This Show The Move Smartly show is co-hosted by Urmi Desai, Editor of Move Smartly, and John Pasalis, President and Broker of Realosophy Realty. MoveSmartly.com and its media channels on YouTube and various podcast platforms are powered by Realosophy Realty in Toronto, Canada. You can also watch this and every episode on our MoveSmartly YouTube channel here: If you enjoy our show and find it useful, please subscribe and leave us a positive rating on whatever platform you are watching or listening to us from — thank you!
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Spring Real Estate Market Dead on Arrival? — Toronto & Vancouver Real Estate Roundtable June 2025
06/06/2025
Spring Real Estate Market Dead on Arrival? — Toronto & Vancouver Real Estate Roundtable June 2025
Move Smartly Editor and Host, Urmi, once again speaks to John and Steve on what is going on in the data and on the ground in Toronto and Vancouver. Overall home sales and new home sales plunge to lows not seen since the 1990s. John and Steve what the federal government should - and shouldn’t do - for the struggling new home building sector. Plus - how our real estate brokers, agents and brokerage reacting to changing market consideration as sellers remain fixed on yesterday’s prices? Contact Us Follow Steve on X-Twitter @SteveSaretsky; Email at: Follow John on X-Twitter @JohnPasalis; Email at: Follow Urmi on X-Twitter @MoveSmartly; Email at: About This Roundtable Series Each month, Move Smartly.com editor, Urmi Desai, talks to John Pasalis, Housing Analyst, Broker and President of Realosophy Realty in Toronto, and Steve Saretsky, Housing Analyst and Realtor at the Oakwin Realty Group at Oakwin Realty in Vancouver about the latest data and on-the-ground insights in Canada's biggest residential RE markets. (Thanks to Jesse Bains, now at Linked In News, for kicking off this series at Yahoo Finance originally!) About This Show The Move Smartly show is co-hosted by Urmi Desai, Editor of Move Smartly, and John Pasalis, President and Broker of Realosophy Realty. MoveSmartly.com and its media channels on YouTube and various podcast platforms are powered by Realosophy Realty in Toronto, Canada. You can also watch this episode on our MoveSmartly YouTube channel here: If you enjoy our show and find it useful, please like, subscribe, share, review and comment on whatever platform you are watching or listening to us from - we appreciate your support!
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Should We Downsize by Selling our Condo and Renting Now — ‘The Situation’ Consumer Q&A
05/30/2025
Should We Downsize by Selling our Condo and Renting Now — ‘The Situation’ Consumer Q&A
We are back with our popular consumer Q/A segment, ‘The Situation’! Urmi once again asks John to respond to the detailed questions you send in about the real estate decisions you are making as you navigate through the Toronto area housing market. In this week's episode: Is it time to sell our home, rent and invest in stocks now? Should we upsize our home or stay and invest in stocks instead? My parents bought we a condo but I don't like living in the area - what next? If you would like to send in your questions to be featured on a future episode, please email If you have a more specific or particular real estate situation to discuss with John and his team at Realosophy Realty, connect with John at Listen to this episode when available on Move Smartly Podcast (New episodes drop Tues mornings): If you enjoy our show and find it useful, please share, subscribe and leave us a positive rating on whatever platform you are watching or listening to us from - thank you! Connect with Us John Pasalis, President and Broker, Realosophy Realty, Toronto | Email: | Twitter: Urmi Desai, Editor, Move Smartly | Email: | X-Twitter: About This Show The Move Smartly show is co-hosted by Urmi Desai, Editor of Move Smartly, and John Pasalis, President and Broker of Realosophy Realty. MoveSmartly.com and its media channels on YouTube and various podcast platforms are powered by Realosophy Realty in Toronto, Canada.
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How British Columbia Is Leading Canada’s Housing Reform
05/23/2025
How British Columbia Is Leading Canada’s Housing Reform
British Columbia is doing what other provinces have only talked about—taking bold, concrete steps to tackle the housing crisis. From legalizing fourplexes and sixplexes near transit, to cracking down on speculation and short-term rentals, Housing Minister Ravi Kahlon is helping lead one of the most ambitious housing reform agendas in the country. In this episode, we talk about BC’s approach to increasing supply, supporting non-market housing, and what other provinces—especially Ontario—can learn from it. Contact Us John Pasalis, President and Broker, Realosophy Realty, Toronto | Email: | X-Twitter: Urmi Desai, Editor, Move Smartly | Email: | X-Twitter: About This Show The Move Smartly show is co-hosted by Urmi Desai, Editor of Move Smartly, and John Pasalis, President and Broker of Realosophy Realty. MoveSmartly.com and its media channels on YouTube and various podcast platforms are powered by Realosophy Realty in Toronto, Canada. You can also watch this episode on our MoveSmartly YouTube channel here: y If you enjoy our show and find it useful, please like, subscribe, share, review and comment on whatever platform you are watching or listening to us from - we appreciate your support!
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How Do You Sell Your Condo Right Now? — May Toronto Area Real Estate Market Live Update & Q/A
05/16/2025
How Do You Sell Your Condo Right Now? — May Toronto Area Real Estate Market Live Update & Q/A
Each month, show co-host John Pasalis presents his latest data and top stories on Toronto area real estate in conversation with fellow Realosophy agents, Davin McMahon and Gus Papaioannou, and our Move Smartly mortgage expert, David Larock - and you, our viewers, who join the conversation in our live chat hosted by Move Smartly Editor Urmi Desai to make this is one of our liveliest segments! This week, John and his team discuss conditions in the slower market - why buyers are sitting back, what sellers are doing to stand out right now and will interest rate cuts help the market this time around given growing economic uncertainty in Canada. As usual our engaged viewers and listeners have plenty of consumer questions about what’s next for their real estate moves, mortgage rates and more. Set-up a meeting with John Pasalis and his agents at Realosophy to discuss your own real estate questions privately: Sign up for our email list to be alerted to the next online market update to join our YouTube session live chat and ask your own Qs: Today's show links: To learn about John’s new homebuying/selling right now session - email with the subject line “Smart” John's latest monthly Toronto area real estate market report on MoveSmartly.com: Dave Larock's latest weekly blog post on mortgage rates on MoveSmartly.com: Contact Us John Pasalis, President and Broker, Realosophy Realty, Toronto | Email: | X-Twitter: David Larock, Mortgage Broker and Analyst and Realtor | Email: | X-Twitter: Urmi Desai, Editor, Move Smartly | Email: | X-Twitter: About This Show The Move Smartly show is co-hosted by Urmi Desai, Editor of Move Smartly, and John Pasalis, President and Broker of Realosophy Realty. MoveSmartly.com and its media channels on YouTube and various podcast platforms are powered by Realosophy Realty in Toronto, Canada. You can also watch this and every episode on our MoveSmartly YouTube channel here: If you enjoy our show and find it useful, please subscribe and leave us a positive rating on whatever platform you are watching or listening to us from — thank you!
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Home Prices Finally Fall (a Bit) - What’s Next? — Toronto & Vancouver Real Estate Roundtable May 2025
05/09/2025
Home Prices Finally Fall (a Bit) - What’s Next? — Toronto & Vancouver Real Estate Roundtable May 2025
Move Smartly Editor and Host, Urmi, once again speaks to John and Steve on what is going on in the data and on the ground in Toronto and Vancouver. For the first time, homes in all categories drop - though pre-con and condos remain the most sluggish. And John and Steve discuss a minority federal government led by Liberal Party Leader Mark Carney, together with Alberta discontent and Trump’s continued tough tariff talk all means for the Canadian economy and housing. Contact Us Follow Steve on X-Twitter @SteveSaretsky; Email at: Follow John on X-Twitter @JohnPasalis; Email at: Follow Urmi on X-Twitter @MoveSmartly; Email at: About This Roundtable Series Each month, Move Smartly.com editor, Urmi Desai, talks to John Pasalis, Housing Analyst, Broker and President of Realosophy Realty in Toronto, and Steve Saretsky, Housing Analyst and Realtor at the Oakwin Realty Group at Oakwin Realty in Vancouver about the latest data and on-the-ground insights in Canada's biggest residential RE markets. (Thanks to Jesse Bains, now at Linked In News, for kicking off this series at Yahoo Finance originally!) About This Show The Move Smartly show is co-hosted by Urmi Desai, Editor of Move Smartly, and John Pasalis, President and Broker of Realosophy Realty. MoveSmartly.com and its media channels on YouTube and various podcast platforms are powered by Realosophy Realty in Toronto, Canada. You can also watch this episode on our MoveSmartly YouTube channel here: If you enjoy our show and find it useful, please like, subscribe, share, review and comment on whatever platform you are watching or listening to us from - we appreciate your support!
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The Great Sell Off
05/02/2025
The Great Sell Off
In this episode, John Pasalis unpacks his new report, The Great Sell Off, which explores how Canada’s housing market has undergone a fundamental shift. He explains how homes have evolved from places to live into powerful financial assets, how this shift has driven a wedge between prices and incomes, and why today’s housing crisis can’t be solved with yesterday’s assumptions. Read John’s full report and watch video: Contact Us John Pasalis, President and Broker, Realosophy Realty, Toronto | Email: | X-Twitter: Urmi Desai, Editor, Move Smartly | Email: | X-Twitter: About This Show The Move Smartly show is co-hosted by Urmi Desai, Editor of Move Smartly, and John Pasalis, President and Broker of Realosophy Realty. MoveSmartly.com and its media channels on YouTube and various podcast platforms are powered by Realosophy Realty in Toronto, Canada. You can also watch this episode on our MoveSmartly YouTube channel here: y If you enjoy our show and find it useful, please like, subscribe, share, review and comment on whatever platform you are watching or listening to us from - we appreciate your support!
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Introducing ‘The Great Sell Off’: Interview with John Pasalis - Move Smartly Ideas
05/02/2025
Introducing ‘The Great Sell Off’: Interview with John Pasalis - Move Smartly Ideas
Today, Urmi interviews co-host John about his new report and video, The Great Sell Off: How Our Homes Became Someone Else’s Business, which explains just how we have arrived at our current Canadian housing affordability crisis and what we can do to emerge from it. Read John’s full report and watch video: Contact Us John Pasalis, President and Broker, Realosophy Realty, Toronto | Email: | X-Twitter: Urmi Desai, Editor, Move Smartly | Email: | X-Twitter: About This Show The Move Smartly show is co-hosted by Urmi Desai, Editor of Move Smartly, and John Pasalis, President and Broker of Realosophy Realty. MoveSmartly.com and its media channels on YouTube and various podcast platforms are powered by Realosophy Realty in Toronto, Canada. You can also watch this episode on our MoveSmartly YouTube channel here: y If you enjoy our show and find it useful, please like, subscribe, share, review and comment on whatever platform you are watching or listening to us from - we appreciate your support!
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Am I Wrong to Be Buying a Home Right Now? — ‘The Situation’ Consumer Q&A April 2025
04/25/2025
Am I Wrong to Be Buying a Home Right Now? — ‘The Situation’ Consumer Q&A April 2025
This week, it’s time for our monthly consumer Q&A segment which we call the ‘The Situation.’ In this segment, I ask my co-host and colleague, John Pasalis, President and Broker at Realosophy Realty, in Toronto, to respond to the questions you are asking about all your buying, selling and renting moves across the Toronto area real estate market. You can send your questions about your own real estate moves to be addressed in future episodes to Sign up for John's 30 Minute Info Session - The Smart Way to Upsize In an Uncertain Market - Contact Us John Pasalis, President and Broker, Realosophy Realty, Toronto | Email: | X-Twitter: Urmi Desai, Editor, Move Smartly | Email: | X-Twitter: About This Show The Move Smartly show is co-hosted by Urmi Desai, Editor of Move Smartly, and John Pasalis, President and Broker of Realosophy Realty. MoveSmartly.com and its media channels on YouTube and various podcast platforms are powered by Realosophy Realty in Toronto, Canada. You can also watch this episode on our MoveSmartly YouTube channel here: If you enjoy our show and find it useful, please like, subscribe, share, review and comment on whatever platform you are watching or listening to us from - we appreciate your support!
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Assessing Housing Plans as Canada Votes - Move Smartly Ideas
04/18/2025
Assessing Housing Plans as Canada Votes - Move Smartly Ideas
As Canadians head to the polls later this month, Move Smartly co-hosts Urmi and John assess the Liberal, Conservative and NDP housing plans. Featuring John’s interview with campaigning Liberal Housing Minister, Nate Eskine-Smith. Follow us and send us your questions and feedback via Twitter , Instagram , or email: Show Notes: Liberal Party - March 2025 -Building Canada Strong: Conservative Party - March 2025 - Building Homes Not Bureaucracy: Conservative Party - Dec 2023: Housing Hell - How We Got Here and How We Get Out: NDP - March 2025 - Building More Homes: About This Show The Move Smartly show is co-hosted by Urmi Desai, Editor of Move Smartly, and John Pasalis, President and Broker of Realosophy Realty. MoveSmartly.com and its media channels on YouTube and various podcast platforms are powered by Realosophy Realty in Toronto, Canada. You can also watch this episode on our MoveSmartly YouTube channel here: y If you enjoy our show and find it useful, please like, subscribe, share, review and comment on whatever platform you are watching or listening to us from - we appreciate your support!
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Should I Be Buying or Selling a Home Right Now? — April Toronto Area Real Estate Market Live Update & Q/A
04/11/2025
Should I Be Buying or Selling a Home Right Now? — April Toronto Area Real Estate Market Live Update & Q/A
Each month, show co-host John Pasalis presents his latest data and top stories on Toronto area real estate in conversation with fellow Realosophy agents, Anastasia Spozito and Davin McMahon, and our Move Smartly mortgage expert, David Larock - and you, our viewers, who join the conversation in our live chat hosted by Move Smartly Editor Urmi Desai to make this is one of our liveliest segments! This week, what is the best way to buy or sell a home right now given the uncertainty about the Canadian economy amidst continued global economy uncertainty caused by the trade wars initiated by US Trump Administration? As usual our engaged viewers and listeners, have plenty of consumer questions about what’s next for their real estate moves, mortgage rates and more. Set-up a meeting with John Pasalis and his agents at Realosophy to discuss your own real estate questions privately: Sign up for our email list to be alerted to the next online market update to join our YouTube session live chat and ask your own Qs: Today's show links: To learn about John’s new homebuying/selling right now session - email with the subject line “Smart” John's latest monthly Toronto area real estate market report on : Dave Larock's latest weekly blog post on mortgage rates on : Contact Us John Pasalis, President and Broker, Realosophy Realty, Toronto | Email: | X-Twitter: @JohnPasalis David Larock, Mortgage Broker and Analyst and Realtor | Email: | X-Twitter: @Dave_at_IMP Urmi Desai, Editor, Move Smartly | Email: | X-Twitter: @MoveSmartly About This Show The Move Smartly show is co-hosted by Urmi Desai, Editor of Move Smartly, and John Pasalis, President and Broker of Realosophy Realty. and its media channels on YouTube and various podcast platforms are powered by Realosophy Realty in Toronto, Canada. You can also watch this and every episode on our MoveSmartly YouTube channel here: If you enjoy our show and find it useful, please subscribe and leave us a positive rating on whatever platform you are watching or listening to us from — thank you!
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Analyzing Carney and Poilievre on Housing as Canada Heads to Polls — Toronto & Vancouver Real Estate Roundtable April 2025
04/04/2025
Analyzing Carney and Poilievre on Housing as Canada Heads to Polls — Toronto & Vancouver Real Estate Roundtable April 2025
It’s the Federal Election edition this month! Move Smartly Editor and Host, Urmi, once again speaks to John and Steve on what is going on in the data and on the ground in Toronto and Vancouver. And John and Steve sound off on what the two leading candidates to become Canada’s PM at the end of the month, Liberal Party leader and current PM, Mark Carney, and Progressive Conservative Party leader and Leader of the Opposition, Pierre Poilievre have to say on housing GST rebates, capital gains and more on housing as Canada heads to the polls this April 28, 2025. Today’s Show Links: A Sticky End: Lessons Learned from Toronto’s 2017 Real Estate Bubble: Mark Carney Housing Plan - Mar 2025: Pierre Poilievre Housing Plan - Dec 2023: Contact Us Follow Steve on X-Twitter @SteveSaretsky; Email at: Follow John on X-Twitter @JohnPasalis; Email at: Follow Urmi on X-Twitter @MoveSmartly; Email at: About This Roundtable Series Each month, Move Smartly.com editor, Urmi Desai, talks to John Pasalis, Housing Analyst, Broker and President of Realosophy Realty in Toronto, and Steve Saretsky, Housing Analyst and Realtor at the Oakwin Realty Group at Oakwin Realty in Vancouver about the latest data and on-the-ground insights in Canada's biggest residential RE markets. (Thanks to Jesse Bains, now at Linked In News, for kicking off this series at Yahoo Finance originally!) About This Show The Move Smartly show is co-hosted by Urmi Desai, Editor of Move Smartly, and John Pasalis, President and Broker of Realosophy Realty. MoveSmartly.com and its media channels on YouTube and various podcast platforms are powered by Realosophy Realty in Toronto, Canada. You can also watch this episode on our MoveSmartly YouTube channel here: If you enjoy our show and find it useful, please like, subscribe, share, review and comment on whatever platform you are watching or listening to us from - we appreciate your support!
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How a Small Floor Repair Turned into a 100K Renovation — ‘The Situation’ Consumer Q&A March 2025
03/28/2025
How a Small Floor Repair Turned into a 100K Renovation — ‘The Situation’ Consumer Q&A March 2025
This week, it’s time for our monthly consumer Q&A segment which we call the ‘The Situation.’ In this segment, I ask my co-host and colleague, John Pasalis, President and Broker at Realosophy Realty, in Toronto, to respond to the questions you are asking about all your buying, selling and renting moves across the Toronto area real estate market. You can send your questions about your own eal estate move to be addressed in future episodes to or leave comments on YouTube channel under this video for those of you catching this segment there. Follow us and send us your questions and feedback via Twitter , Instagram , or email: About This Show The Move Smartly show is co-hosted by Urmi Desai, Editor of Move Smartly, and John Pasalis, President and Broker of Realosophy Realty. MoveSmartly.com and its media channels on YouTube and various podcast platforms are powered by Realosophy Realty in Toronto, Canada. You can also watch this episode on our MoveSmartly YouTube channel here: y If you enjoy our show and find it useful, please like, subscribe, share, review and comment on whatever platform you are watching or listening to us from - we appreciate your support!
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Tariffs Slam Into Canada’s Economy - And Its Housing Market: An Interview with Ben Rabidoux
03/21/2025
Tariffs Slam Into Canada’s Economy - And Its Housing Market: An Interview with Ben Rabidoux
Urmi and John sit down with Ben Rabidoux, a leading housing analyst at Edge Realty Analytics. His firm provides in-depth data and insights on Canada’s housing market, with a focus on national trends and key metro areas like Vancouver and Toronto. It’s no surprise that many real estate professionals consider his monthly research reports essential reading. With interest rates falling, inflation on the rise, and tariffs hitting Canada’s economy, the housing market is facing a whirlwind of change. How will these shifting economic forces play out in the coming months—and what do they mean for homebuyers, sellers, and investors? Let’s dive in. Follow us and send us your questions and feedback via Twitter , Instagram , or email: About This Show The Move Smartly show is co-hosted by Urmi Desai, Editor of Move Smartly, and John Pasalis, President and Broker of Realosophy Realty. MoveSmartly.com and its media channels on YouTube and various podcast platforms are powered by Realosophy Realty in Toronto, Canada. You can also watch this episode on our MoveSmartly YouTube channel here: y If you enjoy our show and find it useful, please like, subscribe, share, review and comment on whatever platform you are watching or listening to us from - we appreciate your support!
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Home Sales Hit New Low, Condo Crash?, Trump Tariff Chaos — March Toronto Area Real Estate Market Live Update & Q/A
03/14/2025
Home Sales Hit New Low, Condo Crash?, Trump Tariff Chaos — March Toronto Area Real Estate Market Live Update & Q/A
Each month, show co-host John Pasalis presents his latest data and top stories on Toronto area real estate in conversation with fellow Realosophy agents, Gus Papaioannou and Peter Karlos, and our Move Smartly mortgage expert, David Larock - and you, our viewers, who join the conversation in our live chat hosted by Move Smartly Editor Urmi Desai to make this is one of our liveliest segments! This week, detached homes hit a new low, rents fall and when are condo prices finally going to fall? And as interest rates fall amidst Canada’s trade tariff war with the US Trump administration continues, consumers have plenty of questions about what’s next for their real estate moves, mortgage rates and more. Set-up a meeting with John Pasalis and his agents at Realosophy to discuss your own real estate questions privately: Sign up for our email list to be alerted to the next online market update to join our YouTube session live chat and ask your own Qs: Today's show links: To learn about John’s new homebuying/selling right now session - email with the subject line “Smart” John's latest market report for October with latest data on MoveSmartly.com: Dave Larock's latest blog post on mortgage rates on MoveSmartly.com: Contact Us John Pasalis, President and Broker, Realosophy Realty, Toronto | Email: | X-Twitter: David Larock, Mortgage Broker and Analyst and Realtor | Email: | X-Twitter: Urmi Desai, Editor, Move Smartly | Email: | X-Twitter: About This Show The Move Smartly show is co-hosted by Urmi Desai, Editor of Move Smartly, and John Pasalis, President and Broker of Realosophy Realty. MoveSmartly.com and its media channels on YouTube and various podcast platforms are powered by Realosophy Realty in Toronto, Canada. You can also watch this and every episode on our MoveSmartly YouTube channel here: If you enjoy our show and find it useful, please subscribe and leave us a positive rating on whatever platform you are watching or listening to us from — thank you!
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Trump Tariff Chaos Hits Slam into Slow Canadian Real Estate Markets — Toronto & Vancouver Real Estate Roundtable March 2025
03/07/2025
Trump Tariff Chaos Hits Slam into Slow Canadian Real Estate Markets — Toronto & Vancouver Real Estate Roundtable March 2025
It’s Day One of the latest Canada-US Trade Tariff War and this one is a doozey! Move Smartly Editor and Host, Urmi, once again speaks to John and Steve on what is going on in the data and on the ground in Toronto and Vancouver and how are Canadian real estate consumers reacting to the introduction of 25% blanket tariffs on our trade with the US courtesy of President Donald Trump? Will banks continue to prop up the pre-construction or are things changing? And will low interest rates and the first signs of prices dropping be enough to get Canadians back into real estate again like they did after the initial shock of the 2008 financial crisis and the Covid-19 pandemic shutdowns wore off? Today’s Show Links: John Pasalis - “Is Canada Propping Up Condos”: Contact Us Follow Steve on X-Twitter @SteveSaretsky; Email at: Follow John on X-Twitter @JohnPasalis; Email at: Follow Urmi on X-Twitter @MoveSmartly; Email at: About This Roundtable Series Each month, Move Smartly.com editor, Urmi Desai, talks to John Pasalis, Housing Analyst, Broker and President of Realosophy Realty in Toronto, and Steve Saretsky, Housing Analyst and Realtor at the Oakwin Realty Group at Oakwin Realty in Vancouver about the latest data and on-the-ground insights in Canada's biggest residential RE markets. (Thanks to Jesse Bains, now at Linked In News, for kicking off this series at Yahoo Finance originally!) About This Show The Move Smartly show is co-hosted by Urmi Desai, Editor of Move Smartly, and John Pasalis, President and Broker of Realosophy Realty. MoveSmartly.com and its media channels on YouTube and various podcast platforms are powered by Realosophy Realty in Toronto, Canada. You can also watch this episode on our MoveSmartly YouTube channel here: If you enjoy our show and find it useful, please like, subscribe, share, review and comment on whatever platform you are watching or listening to us from - we appreciate your support!
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Is It the Right Time to Upsize to a Larger Condo? + Should We Hire Property Management to Rent Our Place Out? — ‘The Situation’ Consumer Q&A
02/28/2025
Is It the Right Time to Upsize to a Larger Condo? + Should We Hire Property Management to Rent Our Place Out? — ‘The Situation’ Consumer Q&A
Today’s episode is our monthly ‘The Situation’ consumer Q/A segment - Urmi once again asks John to respond to the detailed questions you send in about the real estate decisions you are making as you navigate through the Toronto area housing market. Today, we hear from a family with a primary residence with a large mortgage in the wrong area, should they rent or try to sell up first? Then, when is it time to sell a condo investment in an old building to avoid more expenses and a city condo owner wonders if the time is right to upsize to a larger unit? Finally, when it comes to renting a property out, should you hire a property management company? If you would like to send in your question to be considered for a future episode, please email If you have a real estate situation you would like to discuss with John in private, please connect with John at Connect with Us John Pasalis, President and Broker, Realosophy Realty, Toronto | Email: | Twitter: Urmi Desai, Editor, Move Smartly | Email: | X-Twitter: About This Show The Move Smartly show is co-hosted by Urmi Desai, Editor of Move Smartly, and John Pasalis, President and Broker of Realosophy Realty. and its media channels on YouTube and various podcast platforms are powered by Realosophy Realty in Toronto, Canada. You can also watch this and every episode on our MoveSmartly YouTube channel here: If you enjoy our show and find it useful, please subscribe and leave us a positive rating on whatever platform you are watching or listening to us from — thank you!
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Are the Suburbs More Susceptible in Slowdown? + More Trump Uncertainty — February Toronto Area Real Estate Market Live Update & Q/A
02/14/2025
Are the Suburbs More Susceptible in Slowdown? + More Trump Uncertainty — February Toronto Area Real Estate Market Live Update & Q/A
Each month, show co-host John Pasalis presents his latest data and top stories on Toronto area real estate in conversation with fellow Realosophy agents, Gus Papaioannou and Davin McMahon, and our Move Smartly mortgage expert, David Larock - and you, our viewers, who join the conversation in our live chat hosted by Move Smartly Editor Urmi Desai to make this is one of our liveliest segments! Set-up a meeting with John Pasalis and his agents at Realosophy to discuss your own real estate questions privately: Sign up for our email list to be alerted to the next online market update to join our YouTube session live chat and ask your own Qs: Today's show links: To learn about John’s new homebuying/selling right now session - email with the subject line “Smart” John's latest market report for October with latest data on : Dave Larock's latest blog post on mortgage rates on : Contact Us John Pasalis, President and Broker, Realosophy Realty, Toronto | Email: | X-Twitter: David Larock, Mortgage Broker and Analyst and Realtor | Email: | X-Twitter: Urmi Desai, Editor, Move Smartly | Email: | X-Twitter: About This Show The Move Smartly show is co-hosted by Urmi Desai, Editor of Move Smartly, and John Pasalis, President and Broker of Realosophy Realty. and its media channels on YouTube and various podcast platforms are powered by Realosophy Realty in Toronto, Canada. You can also watch this and every episode on our MoveSmartly YouTube channel here: If you enjoy our show and find it useful, please subscribe and leave us a positive rating on whatever platform you are watching or listening to us from — thank you!
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