Trial Lawyer Prep

Trial Lawyer Prep is a biweekly podcast about the craft of building successful plaintiff cases — from the moment a case walks in the door to the outcome that closes it, whether that's a jury verdict or settlement. Each episode is a how-to: focus group methodology, witness preparation, persuasion and case themes, trial tactics, deposition strategy, and case preparation that delivers the best possible outcome for your client. Hosted by Elizabeth Larrick — a former plaintiff personal injury attorney turned trial consultant — the show pulls back the curtain on the work that happens behind the scenes to build stronger cases. Episodes alternate between solo deep-dives on specific tactics and conversations with trial lawyers who are doing the work.

AI During Trial: Jury & Verdict. Part Two with Michelle Gessner [Ep 171] 07/29/2026

AI During Trial: Jury & Verdict. Part Two with Michelle Gessner [Ep 171] In our last episode, we learned about Michelle Gessner's recent trial in North Carolina, where she was forced to pivot from a regular audio/video presentation, using modern technology, to a courtroom with no microphones, no TVs, no projectors and a single power outlet (already claimed by the clerk and the court reporter!). Michelle used AI to help adapt to this unexpected turn of events, asking it how to craft a visual presentation under these unique circumstances. Today, we learn how it unfolded. You could feel the courtroom change as the case progressed, and this was a quick trial: starting on a Monday, verdict by the end of day Tuesday. Literally two days. In fact, there were some assets to the old-school, analogue approach: better eye contact with jurors, fewer distractions, and more movement. Using what was learned from the focus groups before the trial, and the creative AI suggestions for presenting evidence, Michelle was able to correctly anticipate the jury's emotional reactions as the witnesses unfolded. With AI helping between trial days to make sure she'd met her burden of proof, Michelle then gave her closing argument with foam boards instead of any PowerPoint slides or technology. And the result: she won. If you want more trial prep strategies just like this, but in more depth and delivered straight to your inbox, grab my email newsletter that I send out each month: In this episode, we cover: How the visuals created with AI significantly engaged the jury. Focus groups provided valuable insights for trial strategy. How word choice is so important in your presentation. Closing arguments were enhanced by using visuals instead of technology. Remember to check out Episodes 128 & 129, featuring Michelle Gessner and her $21 million dollar verdict against Wells Fargo: You can also watch today's episode on my YouTube Channel: Learn more about my guest Michelle Gessner: Michelle Gessner is one of the few lawyers, if not the only lawyer, in North Carolina who has both Big Law and Big Company defense experience, as well as 10 years of employee-side employment litigation experience, which she has been nearly exclusively handling since 2015. Michelle possesses a deep understanding of the many challenges employees face dealing with wage theft and other illegal employment practices. Prior to its formation, Michelle gained extensive experience in all legal issues facing the retail, restaurant, and hospitality industries by serving as the Chief Litigation and Employment Law Counsel for publicly traded companies such as Family Dollar Stores, Inc. (FDO), Darden Restaurants, Inc. (DRI), Big Lots Stores, Inc. (BIG) and TriNet (TNET). Michelle also served as the SVP, General Counsel, and Chief Administrative Officer for Ovation Brands, a privately held $1 billion restaurant company. Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Have a trial or mediation coming up and want to test with a focus group? Book a free consultation call with Elizabeth to learn more: Don’t miss out on the Trial Lawyer Prep Newsletter that is delivered right to your email with extra tips and ‘how to’ information. Join the newsletter here: /episode/index/show/triallawyer/id/41951135

AI for Winning Courtroom Visuals: Case Study with Michelle Gessner [Ep 170] 07/15/2026

AI for Winning Courtroom Visuals: Case Study with Michelle Gessner [Ep 170] My guest today, Michelle Gessner, joined the podcast back in December of 2024, where we discussed her $21 million verdict against Wells Fargo. Today she's back with the story of a recent verdict success in North Carolina, which suddenly hit an unexpected twist. The case was planned out to make use of high tech video equipment and software, as you would find in a standard, modern equipped court room. But then, it was moved to courtroom that had no technology; in fact, only a single outlet with extension cords. No microphones, no TVs, no projectors. Just old-school visual tools: easels, display boards, pen and notepads, and the projection of your own voice. So how does one pivot, and still incorporate the planned visuals and presentation? AI to the rescue! What was already a useful tool was now needed to address the extra challenge of creating courtroom visuals in a no-technology courtroom. Michelle and I explore how she started by using focus groups to find out weaknesses, then identified what needed to be visual, how to be visual under these unique circumstances, and ultimately AI's creative suggestions. And the focus groups were the key, providing critical demonstratives to bring to life the evidence very early in the case. If you want more trial prep strategies just like this, but in more depth and delivered straight to your inbox, grab my email newsletter that I send out each month: In this episode, we cover: How navigating a no-technology courtroom requires creative thinking. AI is a major asset in effective trial preparation, especially during sudden pivots. Using checklists can streamline witness examination. Objection-proof visuals are key to effective presentations. Remember to check out Episodes 128 & 129, featuring Michelle Gessner and her $21 million dollar verdict against Wells Fargo: You can also watch today's episode on my YouTube Channel: Learn more about my guest Michelle Gessner: Michelle Gessner is one of the few lawyers, if not the only lawyer, in North Carolina who has both Big Law and Big Company defense experience, as well as 10 years of employee-side employment litigation experience, which she has been nearly exclusively handling since 2015. Michelle possesses a deep understanding of the many challenges employees face dealing with wage theft and other illegal employment practices. Prior to its formation, Michelle gained extensive experience in all legal issues facing the retail, restaurant, and hospitality industries by serving as the Chief Litigation and Employment Law Counsel for publicly traded companies such as Family Dollar Stores, Inc. (FDO), Darden Restaurants, Inc. (DRI), Big Lots Stores, Inc. (BIG) and TriNet (TNET). Michelle also served as the SVP, General Counsel, and Chief Administrative Officer for Ovation Brands, a privately held $1 billion restaurant company. Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Have a trial or mediation coming up and want to test with a focus group? Book a free consultation call with Elizabeth to learn more: Don’t miss out on the Trial Lawyer Prep Newsletter that is delivered right to your email with extra tips and ‘how to’ information. Join the newsletter here: /episode/index/show/triallawyer/id/41940850

Juror Attention Spans: The Science Every Trial Lawyer Needs to Know [Ep 169] 07/01/2026

Juror Attention Spans: The Science Every Trial Lawyer Needs to Know [Ep 169] What if our assumptions about modern attention spans aren't accurate? We are all used to hearing that people have much, much shorter attention spans these days, thanks to social media, clickbait, algorithms, and a constant barrage of information. While those things certainly represent a major shift in our day to day reality over the past 15+ years, that doesn't necessarily mean that we're paying less attention than we used to. In fact, it's more of a rewiring of our brains, thanks to technology, leading to a state of continuous partial attention. Why is this important to trial law, case framing, focus groups and understanding juries? Because understanding how our brains have changed will then help you package and present your case in a more intentional, and effective way. When I work with lawyers and focus groups, we work very hard on your presentations to make sure that they're fitting our attention spans. To learn more about this process, book a free call with me: In this episode, we cover: How continuous partial attention means our focus is shallow, but long. How brains cannot multitask; they toggle between tasks. Why visual aids should amplify concepts, not repeat them. How jurors can easily get lost during long presentations. Re-entry points in presentations are crucial for audience understanding. Remember to check out Episode 144 of Trial Lawyer Prep, The 8 Second Rule That’s Costing You Verdicts, to learn more about the brain science behind attention spans: You can also watch today's episode on my YouTube Channel: Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Don’t miss out on the Trial Lawyer Prep Newsletter that is delivered right to your email with extra tips and ‘how to’ information. Join the newsletter here: /episode/index/show/triallawyer/id/41835775

Using Case Framing in Discovery with Tony Edwards [Ep 168] 06/17/2026

Using Case Framing in Discovery with Tony Edwards [Ep 168] For an effective discovery, case framing should start as early as possible. But be ready to pivot! Don't let the other side get the jump on you in framing a case, and put you in catch-up mode from the start. You need to start framing a case at intake, especially for higher-value cases. But, as our guest points out today, you also need to be ready and willing to pivot, should new facts arise, or if a new framing will in fact strengthen your case. Tony Edwards is a personal injury lawyer in Oklahoma, and shares stories and wisdom from his decades of experience. We talk about a trucking case where digging into personnel records uncovered that the driver had previously been fired for on-the-job drug use, convincing Tony and his team to pivot to a stronger employer-focused theory, and a settlement at trial for the prior demand. Focus groups are a great help for this kind of shift, since you'll instantly receive feedback on what works and what doesn't, and particularly what may go against your own assumptions and expectations. You then just need to be willing to adjust! Early focus groups change how you build a case, and build a case frame. Book a free call with me and learn more about my online focus groups for plaintiff personal injury lawyers: In this episode, we cover: How discovery can significantly change the framing of a case. That strategic questioning in discovery is key to uncovering information. Pulling from real-world examples to illustrate the impact of effective case framing. How focus groups can reveal unexpected insights about case issues. That AI can assist but should not replace human review. Why attorneys should not hesitate to seek help from peers. You can also watch today's episode on my YouTube Channel: Learn more about my guest Tony Edwards: tony@epinjurylaw.com Tony Edwards was born and raised in McAlester, Oklahoma and has devoted himself to serving the legal needs of the people in his home area. He received his undergraduate degree in sociology and psychology from East Central University in Ada and then went to Oklahoma University College of Law, receiving his J.D. in 1982. In 2006, Tony decided to that he wanted to create a smaller firm that would give him an opportunity to provide more personal service. The Edwards firm was born that year, and he has continued to concentrate on plaintiff’s civil litigation. His practice today encompasses cases involving motor vehicles, nursing homes, defective products, and oil-field injuries. He has been involved in numerous mass-tort cases involving defective products. Edwards and Patterson began in 2015 when he became partners with Matt Patterson. His efforts have resulted in numerous significant verdicts and settlements for his clients. Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Have a trial or mediation coming up and want to test with a focus group? Book a free consultation call with Elizabeth to learn more: Don’t miss out on the Trial Lawyer Prep Newsletter that is delivered right to your email with extra tips and ‘how to’ information. Join the newsletter here: /episode/index/show/triallawyer/id/41648600

Trial Strategy in Action: Timelines, Sequencing, and What Wins [Ep 167] 06/03/2026

Trial Strategy in Action: Timelines, Sequencing, and What Wins [Ep 167] There is a crucial difference between timelines and sequences, and if you want jurors to see your case as plainly as you see it, you need to pay close attention. Today we explore not just how timelines help jurors understand the case quickly, but why that is: the psychology and brain science behind retaining information. Timelines are a curated visual picture of the case, sequencing is about the order of presenting evidence. Similar, yet each with their own distinct psychologies. I know, not all lawyers use timelines, but they can be very effective, and focus groups help you recognize and fine tune what is most likely to register with juries. We want to make things as clear as possible for the jury, so don't lose your jury because you're jumping around the timeline. Logic, clarity and chronology that are structured and presented well can make all the difference. If you want to test your timeline and sequencing presentation on a focus group, book a free call with me and let's get set up: In this episode, we cover: How cognitive science shows that the first information is often assumed to be the first event. Why sequencing is essential for guiding jurors to a conclusion. How focus groups can help identify key events for timelines. Why overloading jurors with information can lead to confusion and undermine your case. Both timelines and sequencing are necessary for effective persuasion. Further links and references from this episode: New Blog post: You can also watch today's episode on my YouTube Channel: Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Don’t miss out on the Trial Lawyer Prep Newsletter that is delivered right to your email with extra tips and ‘how to’ information. Join the newsletter here: /episode/index/show/triallawyer/id/41487305

Depo Clips or Live Witness: The Call That Won the Case [Ep 166] 05/20/2026

Depo Clips or Live Witness: The Call That Won the Case [Ep 166] Five days before trial, a team chose to play defense witness deposition clips, instead of calling the witnesses live. Instinct tells us, training tells us: do it live. Live is better. Live is more persuasive. Live is much more catchy for cross exam. Video puts people to sleep. However, what I walk you through today really boils this down to a primacy question, or in other words, first impressions. In the case above, focus group data showed that clips were having far more impact in setting the stage, and locking in that first impression. So the team pivoted, and the trial took on an entirely new phase. Playing short clips produced visible juror annoyance, and later live testimony only confirmed the negative impression, contributing to a verdict of over $7 million. The choice between clips and live testimony should be data-driven. It could mean using either clips or live witnesses, but the principle is this: don't just assume that live is better. If you've got a trial coming up and a decision you're wrestling with, and you want to test it out to find the first impression, book a free call with me: In this episode, we cover: How primacy affects jurors' first impressions significantly. Why live witnesses are traditionally seen as more persuasive. Understanding juror perception is key to trial success, and focus groups help guide that understanding. Testing witness credibility through focus groups is essential. Why the first impression of a witness is hard to change once set. You can also watch today's episode on my YouTube Channel: Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Don’t miss out on the Trial Lawyer Prep Newsletter that is delivered right to your email with extra tips and ‘how to’ information. Join the newsletter here: /episode/index/show/triallawyer/id/41317070

Using AI in Trial Prep and the Courtroom, with Matthew Fornaro [Ep 165] 05/06/2026

Using AI in Trial Prep and the Courtroom, with Matthew Fornaro [Ep 165] AI has hit the mainstream, and not just in everyday life, but in trial law and legal prep. The days of startups and experimental software have quickly evolved to comprehensive, through and reliable AI-based programs, used by countless law firms and lawyers every day. As a result, it feels like we are racing to keep up. To jump on the bandwagon before it's too late, yet making sure you're using AI in accurate, and ethical, ways. Matthew Fornero is a South Florida business litigator, with over 20 years of courtroom experience and a long track record of representing small businesses, entrepreneurs and startups in commercial litigation, contract disputes and arbitration. But what brings him to Trial Lawyer Prep today is his insight on using AI in trial prep and the courtroom. Matthew has dedicated his time to learning different AI programs, applying them to different types of cases, and analysing the results. He is thus well-placed to detail with us specific platforms and strategies for using AI, that enhance trial outcomes. AI serves as a collaborative tool, not a replacement for human judgment. But knowing how to integrate it into your practice can pay huge dividends in time, accuracy, the effectiveness of response and rebuttal, and ultimately: better results for you and your clients. In this episode, we cover: The various aspects of AI application, including document review, jury instructions, and cross-examination AI helps lawyers distil complex cases into understandable narratives Using AI responsibly requires fact-checking and ethical considerations How to make sure you are choosing software that is conceptually proven, not just theoretical (looks good on paper) How AI can democratize access to legal resources for smaller firms. Learn more about my guest Matthew Fornaro: mfornaro@fornarolegal.com Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Have a trial or mediation coming up and want to test with a focus group? Book a free consultation call with Elizabeth to learn more: Don’t miss out on the Trial Lawyer Prep Newsletter that is delivered right to your email with extra tips and ‘how to’ information. Join the newsletter here: /episode/index/show/triallawyer/id/41167315

3 Steps to Get Reliable Juror Feedback [Ep 164] 04/22/2026

3 Steps to Get Reliable Juror Feedback [Ep 164] Running a good focus group is really a lot like conducting a good trial: Fundamentally, it's about understanding people. And you don't need a psychology degree to do so. If you have an innate understanding for human behavior, relationships, biases and different means of communication, then you already have the instinct to make the most of your focus groups. Today's episode breaks down three key steps to be organized and prepared for your next group. Armed with these tools, you can then hit the ground running and really connect with juries and clients. We cover: Setting clear goals for focus group sessions Developing a structured plan to ensure effective listening Overcoming personal biases in focus group settings Avoiding common pitfalls like overloading information and lack of organization Conducting test runs to improve the quality of focus group feedback Don't assume that you're a natural presenter; preparation is key Make sure you're listening more than speaking Seeking help if you're too biased to run a focus group Set up a free consultation today: You can also watch today's episode on my YouTube Channel: Additional resources: Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Have a trial or mediation coming up and want to test with a focus group? Book a free consultation call with Elizabeth to learn more: Don’t miss out on the Trial Lawyer Prep Newsletter that is delivered right to your email with extra tips and ‘how to’ information. Join the newsletter here: /episode/index/show/triallawyer/id/40955935

Witness Prep Strategies That Embrace Brain Science [Ep. 163] 04/08/2026

Witness Prep Strategies That Embrace Brain Science [Ep. 163] Heading into deposition prep, your clients are typically nervous, anxious, overwhelmed and lacking confidence. They are most likely in a situation they have never found themselves in before, and undoubtedly the stakes feel very high. But we need to get them to focus, to remember, to think and answer clearly, and to let go of their fear and uncertainty. This episodes focuses on three clear, distinct strategies that also help you remember how to get the most out of your clients at this crucial juncture. Clients will feed off of not just your confidence, but your calm demeanor and encouragement. Elevate your practice with these insights for building a strong foundation in witness preparation. We tap into some fascinating brain science to help us all understand not just what to do, but why our brains, and therefore our emotions, function the way they do. In this episode, learn how: Your working memory holds only three to five things at a time. Fear can block rational thought and memory retention. Using clear language and expectations supports and empowers clients. Roadmaps help clients understand their roles in depositions. Repetition is key to overcoming the forgetting curve. Role-playing scenarios help your client feel comfortable and confident during deposition. Links from this episode: Learn more about Hermann Ebbinghaus' (via growthengineering.co.uk) You can also watch today's episode on my YouTube Channel: Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Have a trial or mediation coming up and want to test with a focus group? Book a free consultation call with Elizabeth to learn more: Don’t miss out on the Trial Lawyer Prep Newsletter that is delivered right to your email with extra tips and ‘how to’ information. Join the newsletter here: /episode/index/show/triallawyer/id/40753345

Trial Lawyers and Time Management: Wisdom from Dina Cataldo [Ep 162] 03/25/2026

Trial Lawyers and Time Management: Wisdom from Dina Cataldo [Ep 162] We're all busy trial lawyers and specialists, typically juggling multiple cases at once. Time management and organization is crucial, and we can't allow ourselves to get overwhelmed, to risk impacting not just the case but our own health and well-being. It's worth taking the time to make sure your tasks and workflow are efficient, your calendar flows logically, and your habits are positive and healthy. Even just a few minutes' pause for retrospection and meditation can make a huge difference. And I've been right in the thick of it lately myself! As a trial consultant, I was getting two separate trials off the ground here recently, and so was devoting a lot of time to helping those trials get their opening statements, hit lists, and order of proof ready. This week's episode was one of the most popular of 2025, and features lawyer coach Dina Cataldo. Dina talks to us about the unique challenges lawyers face in managing their time effectively, the importance of mindset in overcoming overwhelm, and practical strategies for creating healthy routines. Dina reveals methods like “Sunday planning,” and setting time limits for tasks, to streamline workflow and improve efficiency. And we talk about the unique challenges female attorneys face, balancing demanding careers with personal responsibilities, and provide strategies to enhance daily productivity and instill confidence. In this episode, learn how: Lawyers need to treat themselves as humans, not robots. Implementing time management is key for anyone in the legal field. Self-awareness is at the core of managing time and reducing stress. Healthy habits, including nutrition, impact overall performance and help you get better results. Creating a structured plan can alleviate trial-related stress. You can avoid getting caught underestimating the time needed for tasks. Address internal resistance and developing a healthy relationship with time. Links from this episode: Learn more about Dina Cataldo: Get Dina’s Free Workbook: 3 Sneaky Problems Stealing Your Time and Productivity (and How to Fix Them Now!) You can also watch today's episode on my YouTube Channel: Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Have a trial or mediation coming up and want to test with a focus group? Book a free consultation call with Elizabeth to learn more: Don’t miss out on the Trial Lawyer Prep Newsletter that is delivered right to your email with extra tips and ‘how to’ information. Join the newsletter here: /episode/index/show/triallawyer/id/40606420

The Hard Truth about Persuasion and the Lawyer Brain [Ep 161] 03/11/2026

The Hard Truth about Persuasion and the Lawyer Brain [Ep 161] We know we live in an attention-deficit age, where attention spans and concentration levels are lower than ever. It's not just about social media though. These trends carry forward into every day life, including in the court room. We simply can't assume that just because the jurors are there and present, that they will necessarily be paying as close attention as we expect. It's human nature to start to drift away and think about something else when you're not otherwise captured by a subject, and there is fascinating brain science that demonstrates why! So today we look at ways to maximize your impact, grab hold of the narrative, choose the most effective facts and frame your arguments in a way that keeps jurors engaged and wanting more. Even the judge will notice this approach! And will appreciate how you started with the hook. In fact, you could say that regardless of the impact of social media doom-scrolling, understanding these persuasion techniques has been a winning strategy in courtrooms, and beyond, for generations. So, get to the point, cut the small talk, lean into the hook and the best facts, and remember who you're talking to: tailor your presentation so that it resonates with a juror's brain. Set up a free consultation today: In this episode, learn how: Mediation focus groups help assess case value and strategy. Running focus groups early can provide critical insights. Each focus group builds on the previous one for better results. Timing is key; don't wait until the last minute. Lawyers should commit to at least one focus group per case. Links from this episode: Mark Lanier, Lanier Trial Academy - You can also watch today's episode on my YouTube Channel: Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Have a trial or mediation coming up and want to test with a focus group? Book a free consultation call with Elizabeth to learn more: Don’t miss out on the Trial Lawyer Prep Newsletter that is delivered right to your email with extra tips and ‘how to’ information. Join the newsletter here: /episode/index/show/triallawyer/id/40381415

The Three-Phase Focus Group Strategy Every Trial Lawyer Needs [Ep 160] 02/25/2026

The Three-Phase Focus Group Strategy Every Trial Lawyer Needs [Ep 160] You're not going to be one of those lawyers that only starts thinking about a focus group 30 days before the trial, right? To make the most of the power and impact of focus groups, work backwards through this three-phase roadmap that helps you plan and prepare. You will see, and feel, a remarkable difference in your confidence, arguments and ultimately, your case. Why three phases? This structure taps into the various stages of trial prep, and gives you focus groups that are appropriate and effective for the moment your case is in. Whether it's in Phase 1 (Discovery), Phase 2 (Settlement/Mediation), or Phase 3 (Trial), focus groups reflect juror attitudes, bias and weakness detection, theme and damages testing, witness credibility feedback, and help lawyers make better settlement-versus-trial decisions. Work with me to fine-tune this strategy and ensure you're getting the most out of your focus groups! Set up a free consultation today: In this episode, learn how: Mediation focus groups help assess case value and strategy. Running focus groups early can provide critical insights. Each focus group builds on the previous one for better results. Timing is key; don't wait until the last minute. Lawyers should commit to at least one focus group per case. I also talk in today's episode about a common misconception we have on how decisions are made for mediation. There is a dedicated episode on this topic, Episode 142, which you can find here: You can also watch today's episode on my YouTube Channel: Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Have a trial or mediation coming up and want to test with a focus group? Book a free consultation call with Elizabeth to learn more: Don’t miss out on the Trial Lawyer Prep Newsletter that is delivered right to your email with extra tips and ‘how to’ information. Join the newsletter here: /episode/index/show/triallawyer/id/40206345

Traditional Methods of Jury Selection are Broken! with Sharif Gray [Ep 159] 02/11/2026

Traditional Methods of Jury Selection are Broken! with Sharif Gray [Ep 159] The jury selection process is changing and evolving. Are you willing to be bold and confront jury selection challenges head-on? This was a popular and very actionable conversation that I had with Sharif Gray last year, where we talked about what could be broken with your jury selection. We looked at assumptions and stereotypes that are often made, and I think it's a question worth returning to as we get deeper into 2026, when you may have trials coming up on the horizon. It could be very useful to consider these suggestions and tips when you're making important decisions on selecting, or deselecting, your jury members. Sharif turns the tables on many standard approaches and perspectives, and suggests that instead, we take potential concerns and weaknesses and turn them to our advantage. In so doing, you will demonstrate credibility, authenticity, trust and respect, for the potential jurors, the judge and even the defence. "We're there for fairness. So I'm looking for jurors who are going to do right by my client, but I'm also looking for jurors who are going to do right by the defense. Because it's not justice if you're going to close your eyes and just vote for my side every day of the week." - Sharif Gray. Sharif is a trial lawyer based in Richmond, Virginia, and the host of the Courtroom Stories and Tactics podcast, where he and his guests do deep dives on topics like voir dire, jury selection, the role of the legal system, and one of my favorites: focus groups! I was honored to be a guest on Sharif's show earlier this year. In this episode, you will learn about: Challenges in Traditional Jury Selection Building Credibility with the Jury Starting Jury Selection Right Effective Communication Techniques Building Credibility in the Courtroom Handling Juror Bias and Concerns Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Supporting Resources: Guest Sharif Gray of Broughton Injury Law. Find Broughton Injury Law here: Reach Sharif personally at RVA Trial Lawyers: Listen to Courtroom Stories and Tactics, by RVA Trial Lawyers: Find my episode on Sharif's podcast: Email Sharif: You can also watch this episode on YouTube here: Have a trial or mediation coming up and want to test with a focus group? Book a free consultation call with Elizabeth to learn more: Don’t miss out on the Trial Lawyer Prep Newsletter that is delivered right to your email with extra tips and ‘how to’ information. Join the newsletter here: /episode/index/show/triallawyer/id/40063855

Trial Strategy v. Trial Tactics: Why Lawyers Confuse Them and What it Costs You [Ep 158] 01/28/2026

Three Focus Group Questions You can Use to Reveal Hidden Case Weaknesses [Ep 157] 01/14/2026

Three Focus Group Questions You can Use to Reveal Hidden Case Weaknesses [Ep 157] "What part of this story just doesn't hit you right?" How would a potential juror answer that question? We're talking about gut feeling, instinctive reaction: something that's there, and they're trying to put their finger on it. These are very good avenues to explore in focus groups, and can uncover emotional and cognitive responses that you weren't expecting. Today's episode features three questions that are deceptively simple yet powerful in their nuance and framing. Successfully applying them will not only make your case stronger, but help you be much better prepared for what the other side is thinking as well. In this episode: Strategic questions can reveal case weaknesses effectively. There are hidden weaknesses in your case that you may not see. Asking jurors to explain the case in their own words can uncover confusion. Emotional responses are crucial in jury decision-making. You can also watch this episode on my YouTube Channel: Are you a lawyer looking to run your own virtual focus groups? I have a free starter kit that can help you get started that includes checklists, questionnaires, confidentiality forms and more! Use this link to download: Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Have a trial or mediation coming up and want to test with a focus group? Book a free consultation call with Elizabeth to learn more: Don’t miss out on the Trial Lawyer Prep Newsletter that is delivered right to your email with extra tips and ‘how to’ information. Join the newsletter here: /episode/index/show/triallawyer/id/39698620

What Trial Lawyers Loved in 2025: Guests, Topics & Focus Group Trends [Ep 156] 12/31/2025

What Trial Lawyers Loved in 2025: Guests, Topics & Focus Group Trends [Ep 156] It's your favorite episodes, topics and themes from Trial Lawyer Prep in 2025, as reflected by the data: you know how much we love facts! I look at what you enjoyed the most, and why, with all the links below if you want to revisit or catch up on these episodes and their valuable information. I'm excited in 2026 to bring you more content on trial strategy, more inspiring guests, and useful tools that help us in our preparation as trial lawyers. I love providing advice and insight to help you present the best case possible, whether you're a long time listener or brand new to the podcast. And if you want to start off 2026 with a focus group, or you're curious about it, don't forget to book a free consultation call: In this episode: Discover the most popular episodes of 2025, based on your engagement. Learn what were the three most listened-to topics of the year. Find out why lawyers often underutilize their own focus group insights. Remember that early focus groups can help in strategic thinking. Going through focus group transcripts can hold valuable insights for lawyers. Why the eight-second rule is vital for grabbing attention. Top Guest Episodes: Top Topic Episodes: You can also watch this episode on my YouTube Channel: Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Have a trial or mediation coming up and want to test with a focus group? Book a free consultation call with Elizabeth to learn more: Don’t miss out on the Trial Lawyer Prep Newsletter that is delivered right to your email with extra tips and ‘how to’ information. Join the newsletter here: /episode/index/show/triallawyer/id/39530615

Why Trial Lawyers Use Focus Groups, It’s Not What You Think [Ep 155] 12/17/2025

Comparison: A Powerful and Simple Persuasion Tool for the Courtroom [Ep 154] 12/03/2025

No Voir Dire? Here’s A Way to Create Your Own Secret Weapon [Ep 153] 11/19/2025

No Voir Dire? Here’s A Way to Create Your Own Secret Weapon [Ep 153] Today, we're talking about the advantages of using virtual focus groups to enhance jury selection, especially in jurisdictions with limited voir dire. I share a real-life success story where a lawyer used virtual focus groups and a detailed jury research chart to navigate a challenging trial with confidence. We then look at the nuts and bolts of how to conduct virtual focus groups, create insightful jury profiles, and maximize the value of focus group feedback. By analyzing qualitative data from focus groups, lawyers can identify potential jurors who may not align with their case, thereby making informed decisions during jury selection. This episode is a great starting point for learning practical strategies to better understand jurors, identifying their emotional engagement, and improve your overall trial strategy. In this episode, you will learn: Creating a jury research profile helps identify unfavorable jurors. Demographics alone are insufficient; life experiences matter too. Judges may make impulsive decisions during voir dire. Multiple focus groups enhance confidence in jury selection. Transcripts from focus groups are crucial for extracting insights. There is no perfect method for jury selection, but strategies can improve outcomes. You can also watch this episode on my YouTube Channel: Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Supporting Resources From This Episode: Want to learn more about the virtual focus group Elizabeth does with lawyers? Schedule a free call: Don’t want to miss an episode? Join the Trial Lawyer Prep Newsletter for resources, tips and episodes by going here: /episode/index/show/triallawyer/id/39034550

The Art of Teamwork: Winning a $27+ million dollar verdict, with John Heenan [Ep 152] 11/05/2025

Winning a $27 Million Verdict After YEARS of Fighting, with Tim Bechtold [Ep 151] 10/22/2025

Winning a $27 Million Verdict After YEARS of Fighting, with Tim Bechtold [Ep 151] Tim Bechtold spent years fighting a a civil rights case involving a prisoner from the Montana State Prison System. In today's conversation, we look at the intricacies of the case, detailing the client's wrongful conviction, subsequent assault in a private prison, and the challenges faced due to procedural delays and missed deadlines. However, the perseverance of Tim and his team ultimately culminated in a favorable verdict and a reward of just over $27 million. Tim explains the importance of a focus group in shaping their trial strategy and reflects on the quick-paced nature of their trial, as well as the broader implications of justice and advocacy for marginalized communities. Tim Bechtold is a Montana-based trial lawyer known for his work in civil rights and environmental law. In this episode, you will learn about: How the case of Nate Lake highlights systemic issues in the justice system. How the verdict of over $27 million underscores the importance of accountability. Why justice for marginalized communities often requires persistence and dedication. The role of storytelling in trials that is crucial for juror engagement. You can also watch this episode on YouTube here: Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Supporting Resources: Guest Tim Bechtold of Bechtold Law Firm, Montana. Contact Tim directly at tim@bechtoldlaw.net Tim’s Environmental Work: 2025 Leonard Weinglass in Defense of Civil Liberties Award - AAJ: 2025 Montana Trial Lawyer of the Year Award: Do you have an upcoming trial and want help writing your opening statement? to see how she can help. Don’t want to miss an episode? Join the Trial Lawyer Prep Newsletter for resources, tips and episodes by going here: /episode/index/show/triallawyer/id/38726840

Three Case-Saving Focus Groups to do in Discovery [Ep 150] 10/08/2025

Jury Selection: What's Broken With Traditional Methods? with Sharif Gray [Ep 149] 09/24/2025

Jury Selection: What's Broken With Traditional Methods? with Sharif Gray [Ep 149] Are you willing to be bold and confront jury selection challenges head-on? Sharif Gray is here to share his perspective on jury selection, turning the tables on some of the assumptions and stereotypes that we often associate with the process and suggesting that instead, we take potential concerns and weaknesses and turn them to our advantage. In so doing, you will demonstrate credibility, authenticity, trust and respect, for the potential jurors, the judge and even the defence. "We're there for fairness. So I'm looking for jurors who are going to do right by my client, but I'm also looking for jurors who are going to do right by the defense. Because it's not justice if you're going to close your eyes and just vote for my side every day of the week." - Sharif Gray. Sharif is a trial lawyer based in Richmond, Virginia, and the host of the Courtroom Stories and Tactics podcast, where he and his guests do deep dives on topics like voir dire, jury selection, the role of the legal system, and one of my favorites: focus groups! I was honored to be a guest on Sharif's show earlier this year. In this episode, you will learn about: Challenges in Traditional Jury Selection Building Credibility with the Jury Starting Jury Selection Right Effective Communication Techniques Building Credibility in the Courtroom Handling Juror Bias and Concerns Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Supporting Resources: Guest Sharif Gray of Broughton Injury Law. Find Broughton Injury Law here: Reach Sharif personally at RVA Trial Lawyers: Listen to Courtroom Stories and Tactics, by RVA Trial Lawyers: Find my episode on Sharif's podcast: Email Sharif: You can also watch this episode on YouTube here: Do you have an upcoming trial and want help writing your opening statement? to see how she can help. Don’t want to miss an episode? Join the Trial Lawyer Prep Newsletter for resources, tips and episodes by going here: /episode/index/show/triallawyer/id/38298595

Surprising Insights Not Typically Expected by Lawyers, with Sheila Wilkinson (part two) [Ep 148] 09/10/2025

Surprising Insights Not Typically Expected by Lawyers, with Sheila Wilkinson (part two) [Ep 148] We turn to focus groups for different perspectives, different viewpoints and unexpected interpretations. But sometimes, these insights can really catch us off guard, even when we think we already know the case. My good friend Sheila Wilkinson and I continue our conversation from Episode 147, and talk about why teaching lawyers to see their cases through fresh eyes changes everything. Sheila has her own revelations about what focus groups really reveal, and shares her own unique insight as a combined licensed attorney, licensed social worker, educator and coach. Sheila loves to share her passion for teaching and the benefits of involving clients and their lawyers deeply in the focus group process, to improve trial outcomes. We then share actionable advice for plaintiffs attorneys considering focus groups, and emphasize the relational and educational aspects of trial consulting. In this episode, you will learn about: 05:15 Building Relationships with Clients 09:47 Advice for Attorneys Considering Focus Groups 15:24 The Importance of Lifelong Learning, and Building a Strong Team for Trial Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Discover more about Sheila Wilkinson: Check out her website: Book time with Shelia: Find Sheila on LinkedIn: Discover Sheila's podcasts: Do you have an upcoming trial and want help writing your opening statement? to see how she can help. Don’t want to miss an episode? Join the Trial Lawyer Prep Newsletter for resources, tips and episodes by going here: /episode/index/show/triallawyer/id/37930245

The Transformative Power of Focus Groups with Sheila Wilkinson Part One [Ep 147] 08/27/2025

The Transformative Power of Focus Groups with Sheila Wilkinson Part One [Ep 147] Why are focus groups so transformative to the legal field? Today I invited my friend and fellow lawyer Shelia Wilkinson for a "podcast takeover" - Sheila becomes the interviewer, and asks me about my background and what brought me to doing this unique work of running focus groups for lawyers. We look at the methods and motivations I use, the value of focus groups in legal practice, how groups help lawyers communicate effectively, identify key case elements, and enhance overall strategy. Focus groups can transform a legal practice by offering a clearer perspective and fostering confidence in your arguments - ultimately helping lawyers navigate complex cases more effectively. And stay tuned for part two between myself and Sheila, where more surprises and insights await! In this episode, you will learn about: Assessing risk Gaining certainty in trial preparation Building better communication skills, and understanding nuances How to identify key case elements How to navigate complex cases more effectively Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Want to learn more about Sheila Wilkinson? Check out her website: Book time with Shelia: Find Sheila on LinkedIn: Discover Sheila's podcasts: Do you have an upcoming trial and want help writing your opening statement? to see how she can help. Don’t want to miss an episode? Join the Trial Lawyer Prep Newsletter for resources, tips and episodes by going here: /episode/index/show/triallawyer/id/37928165

How to Build Confidence in Your Clients During Depo Prep [Ep 146] 08/13/2025

A Fresh Take on Using Video for Case Settlement, with guest Michael Schwarz [Ep145] 07/30/2025

A Fresh Take on Using Video for Case Settlement, with guest Michael Schwarz [Ep145] Elizabeth welcomes Michael Schwarz, founder of Prairie Nation Creative, to discuss innovative approaches to creating settlement videos for trial lawyers. Michael, a seasoned filmmaker, shares his journey from film school to starting a company specializing in impactful legal videos. His company introduced the concept of 'Trial Trailers™ ' - concise and compelling videos designed to summarize case damages and liability, pushing for quicker settlements. Michael also talks about 'demand impact videos,' a more affordable alternative using online interviews for lower-tier cases. Additionally, they explore the challenges of engaging viewers, the importance of early evidence preservation, and how creative storytelling can significantly impact legal outcomes. Michael also touches on his passion project, the Abandoned Atlas Foundation, which focuses on documenting and preserving historic abandoned buildings, and provides another snapshot into his production style. In this episode, you will learn about: The Concept of Trial Trailers Demand Impact Videos as Affordable Alternatives The Art of Video Editing and Storytelling Addressing Lawyer Needs with Custom Videos The Power of Video in Legal Cases Importance of Evidence Preservation Bonus! Michael's Abandoned Atlas Foundation Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Supporting Resources: Guest Michael Schwarz of Prairie Nation Creative. Learn more about Michael Schwarz and the work he is doing: Email Michael: Watch samples of Michael’s work here: You can also watch this episode on YouTube here: Do you have an upcoming trial and want help writing your opening statement? to see how she can help. Don’t want to miss an episode? Join the Trial Lawyer Prep Newsletter for resources, tips and episodes by going here: /episode/index/show/triallawyer/id/37547415

The 8 Second Rule That’s Costing You Verdicts [Ep 144] 07/16/2025

The 8 Second Rule That’s Costing You Verdicts [Ep 144] In this episode, Elizabeth tackles the challenge of capturing and maintaining attention in legal settings, emphasizing the importance of the critical eight-second window to engage audiences like judges, mediators, opposing counsel, and juries. Discover methods to simplify complex legal jargon and prevent cognitive overload, ensuring clarity in your arguments. Elizabeth dives into crafting compelling trial strategies, focusing on the power of visual comparisons and thematic development in opening statements to effectively counter defense narratives. Whether it's contrasting visuals or structuring arguments to reinforce your points, these techniques will elevate your trial preparations. In this episode, you will hear: Mastering attention in legal settings using the critical 8 second rule Simplifying complex legal jargon to avoid cognitive overload Utilizing visual comparisons and thematic development in trial strategies Structuring arguments effectively to counter the defense's narrative Emphasizing the rule of threes for clear and impactful presentations Integrating visuals with verbal communication for enhanced audience engagement Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Supporting Resources: Do you have an upcoming trial and want help writing your opening statement? to see how she can help. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at Let them know I sent you. /episode/index/show/triallawyer/id/37416050

Rewiring Witness Prep: 3 Brain Science Strategies Every Trial Lawyer Needs [Ep143] 07/02/2025

Rewiring Witness Prep: 3 Brain Science Strategies Every Trial Lawyer Needs [Ep143] Elizabeth explores the application of brain science in witness preparation, offering trial lawyers strategies to enhance deposition prep. This episode focuses on leveraging the limbic system and amygdala to reduce stress and improve memory retention, moving away from fear-based tactics. Elizabeth discusses the importance of engaging clients by addressing their concerns and shares methods to counteract the forgetting curve through repetition and structured sessions. Learn how to utilize technology like Zoom for virtual depositions and empower your clients with clarity and confidence. Elevate your practice with these insights for building a strong foundation in witness preparation. Elizabeth highlights the significance of understanding and applying brain science to transform the way trial lawyers approach witness prep. By addressing the emotional and cognitive needs of clients, lawyers can create a more supportive and effective preparation process. The episode emphasizes the benefits of using technology and structured repetition to ensure that clients are well-prepared, confident, and able to retain crucial information. In this episode, you will hear: Transforming witness preparation using brain science techniques Understanding the role of the limbic system and amygdala in reducing stress Avoiding fear-based tactics to enhance client memory retention Importance of repetition to combat the forgetting curve Structured preparation sessions and role-playing scenarios Empowering clients with confidence and clarity through tailored strategies Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Supporting Resources: Learn more about the Need to earn CLE credit and learn more about witness preparation? Check out my in-depth presentation: . Set up a free call to talk to Elizabeth about her : Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at Let them know I sent you. /episode/index/show/triallawyer/id/37219895

Avoid This Mistake if You Plan to Use Focus Group Clips in Mediation [Ep142] 06/18/2025

Avoid This Mistake if You Plan to Use Focus Group Clips in Mediation [Ep142] Explore the potential of focus groups to elevate your mediation success with insights from Elizabeth Larrick. This episode is a must-listen for trial lawyers looking to refine their negotiation strategies. Elizabeth shares the strategic advantages of conducting focus groups two to three months before mediation to influence insurance company figures effectively. She distinguishes between focus groups for trial preparation and those tailored specifically for mediation, offering techniques to maintain confidentiality while utilizing focus group findings to drive better settlements. Elizabeth emphasizes the critical importance of early preparation, providing ample time to share insights with the opposing side ahead of mediation. This proactive approach enhances negotiation effectiveness and informs decision-making. In this episode, you will hear: Strategic use of focus groups to enhance mediation success Importance of conducting focus groups 2-3 months prior to mediation Differentiating focus groups for mediation from those for trial preparation Techniques for maintaining confidentiality while sharing focus group insights Leveraging mediators to communicate focus group findings effectively Early preparation as a key advantage in mediation strategy Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Supporting Resources: In case you missed it, here is Episode 139 that talks about using focus groups in discovery. Curious about doing a focus group for your upcoming mediation? to see how Elizabeth can help. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at Let them know I sent you. /episode/index/show/triallawyer/id/37039920

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