Wine for Normal People
A podcast for people who like wine but not the snobbery that goes with it. We talk about wine in a fun, straightforward, normal way to get you excited about it and help you drink better, more interesting stuff. The Wine For Normal People book is available on Amazon! Back catalog available on Patreon.com/winefornormalpeople
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Ep 509: Felicity Carter Exposes the Jaw-dropping Truth of Who is Guiding Global Wine & Health Policy
02/14/2024
Ep 509: Felicity Carter Exposes the Jaw-dropping Truth of Who is Guiding Global Wine & Health Policy
My guest Felicity Carter is probably the most brilliant journalist in wine, and certainly one of the only ones doing vital investigative work in the field of wine, health, and the neo prohibitionist movement. From 2008 to 2021, she was editor-in-chief of , a global, English-language magazine, one of Germany’s oldest publishing houses. She reported from 22 countries in that position. She writes for Decanter, The Guardian, and pretty much every major prestigious wine publication out there. Photo: Felicity Carter. Credit: Felicity is the foremost authority on wine and health and has information about what is ACTUALLY going on with the “new” data on wine and health…talk about a malevolent hand. HOLY SH&T when you find out what is behind the WHO’s recommendation. Your jaw will drop… Full show notes are on Patreon. _______________________________________________________________ has an amazing selection -- once you get hooked on their wines, they will be your go-to! Make sure you join the in time for the first quarter shipment (it's shaping up to be outstanding). Get 10% your first order with To register for an AWESOME, LIVE WFNP class with Elizabeth or get a class gift certificate for the wine lover in your life go to:
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Ep 508: Armenian Wine - Ancient Grapes, Modern Innovation, True Excellence with Aimee Keushguerian of Zulal & Keush
02/06/2024
Ep 508: Armenian Wine - Ancient Grapes, Modern Innovation, True Excellence with Aimee Keushguerian of Zulal & Keush
In this show we explore the world of Armenian wine, which has roots in the ancient world and may be the oldest winemaking region in Europe. To tell us about these wines, the terroir, and the regions, I welcome Managing Director & Founder, Aimee Keushguerian. Aimee educates us on Armenian wine and tells us about the projects she and her family are undertaking to shape the modern Armenian wine industry, which is definitely getting noticed for its high quality and interesting grape varieties. Aimee Keushguerian, founder of Managing Director of Armenia is located in the Caucasus region bordering Georgia, Iran, Turkey, and Azerbaijan. Vineyards are in the mountains with very high elevations -- some of the highest in Europe. Source: As a guide, here are some of the grapes we mention: Areni is the spicy, medium bodied, lovely main red grape. Vayots Dzor is the main quality region for Areni. Tozot from Vayots Dzor is like a Grenache and has great potential Voskehat is Armenia’s most promising white grape. Producers can make sparkling, still, and dessert wine all from Voskehat. It is non aromatic. Chilar: is another promising white grape with great structure that does well with oak From geopolitical concerns to terroir studies, this podcast has it all! Take a listen -- you will learn a TON! Photo: Zulal. Credit: Wine For Normal People Full show notes are on Patreon. _______________________________________________________________ has Armenian wines before they even made a splash in the wine magazines! They have their finger on the pulse and connect with wineries and regions you need to know about! Make sure you join the in time for the first quarter shipment (it's shaping up to be outstanding AND one of the shipments is likely to have an Armenian wine...hint, hint! ). Get 10% your first order with To register for an AWESOME, LIVE WFNP class with Elizabeth or get a class gift certificate for the wine lover in your life go to:
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Ep 507: Innovative Pairing with Plant-based Food with the founders of Wineand2Veg.com
01/30/2024
Ep 507: Innovative Pairing with Plant-based Food with the founders of Wineand2Veg.com
Food and wine pairing is complex. But as many of us are trying to eat healthier, more plant-based diets it becomes an exercise in frustration. Traditional outlets barely ever talk about how to pair red wine with vegetarian dishes, beyond eggplant and mushrooms. Wendy Narby, a wine educator and writer in Bordeaux and Sally Evans, a winemaker and owner of (sette) aim to change that. This week they talk about their new site, which helps us learn to pair the wines of Bordeaux and wines like them with vegetarian dishes. This podcast and their site, , gives great ideas for pairings that prove you don't have to give up bold wine if you decide to eat a plant-based meal. Knowing you can have a meatless day and still have a great wine pairing makes it a little more appealing to try it, no? Full show notes are on Patreon. _______________________________________________________________ is my go-to source for the best selection of interesting, outstanding quality wines you can’t find locally. Make sure you join the in time for the first quarter shipment (it's shaping up to be outstanding!). Get 10% your first order with To register for an AWESOME, LIVE WFNP class with Elizabeth or get a class gift certificate for the wine lover in your life go to:
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Ep 506: The Wines of the Côtes de Bordeaux -- The Secret Best Value Wines of the Region
01/24/2024
Ep 506: The Wines of the Côtes de Bordeaux -- The Secret Best Value Wines of the Region
This time we explore the hidden gems of Bordeaux -- the Côtes de Bordeaux -- which make superb wines that few people know about. With an easy-drinking style, the are the hidden, affordable wines of Bordeaux. These historic vineyards are a collection of AOCs around eastern Bordeaux on sunny hillside slopes that grow a majority of Merlot and have similar soil types. These are not second or bulk wines – rather family-owned, often sustainable wines that are always a good value for money. This group of appellations under the marketing umbrella of Côtes de Bordeaux covers 9 - 10% of the total production of Bordeaux. Faced with lots of competition from the named communes of Bordeaux (Pomerol, Saint-Émilion, etc), and the Bordeaux and Bordeaux Supérieur AOCs, efforts started in 2004 to create the Union des Côtes de Bordeaux (UCB) to create a collective “brand” of recognition: the AOC Côtes de Bordeaux with 6 terroir: Côtes de Bordeaux - umbrella appellation Blaye Côtes de Bordeaux Castillon Côtes de Bordeaux Francs Côtes de Bordeaux Cadillac Côtes de Bordeaux· Sainte-Foy Côtes de Bordeaux (joined in 2016) In 2009, the went into effect. They must all use the logo below on the bottle to reinforce the association: This is the wine we were drinking... I hope this opens your eyes to some new, fantastic, affordable Bordeaux wines! Take a listen and put this to use -- there is a lot of goodness to discover here (and it won't hurt your wallet)! Full show notes are on Patreon. _______________________________________________________________ is my go-to source for the best selection of interesting, outstanding quality wines you can’t find locally. Make sure you join the in time for the first quarter shipment (it's shaping up to be outstanding!). Get 10% your first order with To register for an AWESOME, LIVE WFNP class with Elizabeth or get a class gift certificate for the wine lover in your life go to: Sources:
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Ep 505: Alternatives to a Favorite -- Grenache (Garnacha)
01/16/2024
Ep 505: Alternatives to a Favorite -- Grenache (Garnacha)
It's another edition of the "Alternatives to a Fave" series! This time: Grenache/Garnacha. As an extension of the Grape Mini-series, we come up with lists of wines that lovers of a specific grape can try as alternatives. Grenache/Garnacha comes in many different forms -- as a juicy, cherry-berry standalone grape in Spain, as lighter blender in the Rhône and Rioja, in rosé and fortified wines, and as full, serious wine in places like Priorat (Spain), Châteauneuf-du-Pape (France), and Australia, where old vines make very intense wines. Photo: Grenache grapes in California. Credit: Getty Images via Canva This one was a challenge, but we came up with a good list of ideas and most won't burn a hole in your wallet! This show focuses only on the red wines (not rosé or sweet wines) and our list includes everything from Zinfandel to Nero d'Avola, to Valpolicella and Alentejo blends (Portugal), on the lighter side to Syrah, Amarone, and Aglianico on the heavy side. We hope, as usual, that this show opens some new doors and gives you new ideas of wines to add to your repertoire! Full show notes are on Patreon. _______________________________________________________________ is my go-to source for the best selection of interesting, outstanding quality wines you can’t find locally. Make sure you join the in time for the first quarter shipment (it's shaping up to be outstanding!). Get 10% your first order with To register for an AWESOME, LIVE WFNP class with Elizabeth or get a class gift certificate for the wine lover in your life go to:
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Ep 504: A Normal Wine Person Perspective on Greek Wine -- Patron Lindsey Miller Shares Her Love and Knowledge of Greece
01/10/2024
Ep 504: A Normal Wine Person Perspective on Greek Wine -- Patron Lindsey Miller Shares Her Love and Knowledge of Greece
For the first time, we have a on the show to share her passion and expertise! This week is a follow-up to This time, long time listener and friend, Lindsey Miller, joins as our guest, to talk about her passion for and knowledge of Greek wine. She helps bring this topic to life, giving us background on how she fell in love with Greece, got to know its wines, and developed some expertise on the subject. Lindsey shares tips and tricks on how to get the best Greek wine, talks about the challenges for the country’s wines in English-speaking markets, and makes helpful suggestions on where to start – from a grape AND region perspective – with Greece. I had so much fun with Lindsey and she did a great job “humanizing” the topic and getting me motivated to explore even more of Greece! Let’s raise a glass (of Greek wine) to her for being the first brave soul to come on the show and share her passion and smarts with us! Lindsey Miller in Pylos. Credit: Lindsey Miller As we mentioned in the last show, here is a list of places and grapes we mention: Notable Appellations and Grapes we cover... Xinomavro PDO appellations: Naoussa, Amyndeo Agiorgitiko appellation: Nemea PDO Moschofilero: Mantinia PDO/Peloponnese Assyrtiko appellation: Santorini Liatiko, Vidiano, Vilana, Kotsifali: Crete Store shelf Lindsey mentions in the show. Greek wines with Hungarian wines thrown in. Credit: Lindsey Miller Full show notes are on Patreon. _______________________________________________________________ is my go-to source for the best selection of interesting, outstanding quality wines you can’t find locally. Make sure you join the in time for the first quarter shipment (it's shaping up to be outstanding!). Get 10% your first order with To register for an AWESOME, LIVE WFNP class with Elizabeth or get a class gift certificate for the wine lover in your life go to:
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Ep 503: Greek Wine -- The Updated 10,000 Foot Overview
01/03/2024
Ep 503: Greek Wine -- The Updated 10,000 Foot Overview
This show is an update to our previous shows on Greece. We hope to get you (re)started on your exploration of this ancient winemaking nation that has been reborn in recent years. Greek wines are unique, terroir-driven, and they harken back to the nation's ancient past and the very foundations of wine as a major part of the history in western civilization. With recent investments and modernization, the wines are better than ever and are worth exploring. Map from the Wines of Greece Although the places and grapes can be hard to pronounce (we did our best 🤷🏻♀️), they are easy to love. Take a listen and then seek these out -- you won't regret it! Here is a list of places and grapes we mention: Notable Appellations Xinomavro PDO appellations: Naoussa, Amynteo, Rapsani, Goumenissa Agiorgitiko appellation: Nemea PDO Mavrodaphne appellation: Patras/Peloponnese Moschofilero: Mantinia PDO/Peloponnese Assyrtiko appellation: Santorini Liatiko, Vidiano, Vilana, Kotsifali: Crete White grapes: Assyrtiko, Aidani, Moschofilero, Vidinao, Villana, Malagouzia, Roditis, Debina, Malvasia, Muscat of Alexandria, Savatiano, Sauvignon Blanc Red grapes: Xinomavro, Agiorgitko (St. George), Mavrodaphne, Stavroto, Krasato, Limnio, Liatiko, Kotsifali, Mandelaria, Negoska, Cabernet Sauvignon, Syrah, Cabernet Franc Full show notes are on Patreon. _______________________________________________________________ is my go-to source for the best selection of interesting, outstanding quality wines you can’t find locally. Make sure you join the in time for the first quarter shipment (it's shaping up to be outstanding!). Get 10% your first order with To register for an AWESOME, LIVE WFNP class with Elizabeth or get a class gift certificate for the wine lover in your life go to: ______________________________ Main Sources: "The Wines of Greece", Konstantinos Lazarakis. Infinite Ideas; January 22, 2018.
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Ep 502: Stu Smith of Smith-Madrone -- Why Napa County is Strangling Small Wineries
12/19/2023
Ep 502: Stu Smith of Smith-Madrone -- Why Napa County is Strangling Small Wineries
This is a baffling story that includes a Napa history lesson, an idea of how the Valley has grown and then a jaunt into intrigue, sting operations, and what appears to be an effort to kill the goose that laid the golden egg by the Napa County government. It seems that the County is going after small wineries in an attempt to bankrupt them out of business. Friend of the pod, joins to discuss and explain the situation -- at least the parts that have an explanation! If you want background on Smith-Madrone, check out... Please support small wineries! Now, more than ever they need our help!! Full show notes are on Patreon. _______________________________________________________________ is my go-to source for the best selection of interesting, outstanding quality wines you can’t find locally. Make sure you join the in time for the first quarter shipment. Get 10% your first order with To register for an AWESOME, LIVE WFNP class with Elizabeth or get a class gift certificate for the wine lover in your life go to:
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Ep 501: Winemaker Thomas Bianciardi of San Filippo - Award-Winning Wines of Brunello di Montalcino
12/12/2023
Ep 501: Winemaker Thomas Bianciardi of San Filippo - Award-Winning Wines of Brunello di Montalcino
Thomas Bianciardi is the winemaker for the exceptional , the famed enclave of Tuscany. I had the honor of meeting him while on the to Tuscany this spring and loved the philosophy, the wines, and the way that Thomas explained the region. Photo: Thomas Bianciardi Credit: Wine For Normal People Thomas joins to discuss Montalcino, educate us about the region and tell us about how he and owner Roberto Gianneli make these exceptional wines that recently made list of top wines. These wines are a great reflection of the terroir and the people who make them. Photo: Roberto Gianneli, Owner of San Filippo. Credit: San Filippo For info on the Agriturissmo, where you can stay on the property, Full show notes are on Patreon. _______________________________________________________________ is my go-to source for the best selection of interesting, outstanding quality wines you can’t find locally. Make sure you join the in time for the first quarter shipment. Get 10% your first order with To register for an AWESOME, LIVE WFNP class with Elizabeth or get a class gift certificate for the wine lover in your life go to:
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Ep 500: Listeners Ask About 500 Episodes of WFNP
12/06/2023
Ep 500: Listeners Ask About 500 Episodes of WFNP
This show is listener driven, which makes sense since we have always had a listener focus at Wine For Normal People! We take some amazing questions about the podcast from listeners and reveal some fun facts about the show that you may not know. We cover things like: What experience did we have going into the podcast? How do we select guests and plan shows? How should a first-time listener approach 500 episodes? What regions do we like now that we didn't at the outset? What has changed with the show over the years? And much more. Lots of laughs and good fun, with some wine education and entrepreneurial advice to boot! Thank you to all listeners for being so loyal, kind, and all around awesome over the years -- especially the Patrons! And thank you to Wine Access for its continued support of the show!! Here’s to 500 more episodes! Episodes referenced: with Kelsey and Colby AND Jim Morris Episodes ( ) Antonio Capaldo: AND Full show notes are on Patreon. _______________________________________________________________ We couldn't have gotten to 500 episodes without my exclusive sponsor, my go-to source for the best selection of interesting, outstanding quality wines you can’t find locally. The holidays are almost upon us -- don't forget to stock up for your holiday feasts and get a Wine Access gift card for everyone in your life! Get 10% your first order with To register for an AWESOME, LIVE WFNP class with Elizabeth or get a class gift certificate for the wine lover in your life go to:
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Ep 499: The Impacts of Smoke on Wine with Professor Tom Collins of Washington State University
11/29/2023
Ep 499: The Impacts of Smoke on Wine with Professor Tom Collins of Washington State University
Professor Thomas Collins (yes, his name is Tom Collins) is a foremost authority in the US on smoke in the vineyards. After a long career in research and enology at large wineries in New York and California, and a Ph.D. at UC-Davis, Dr. Collins became an assistant professor of grape and wine chemistry in the Viticulture and Enology Program at Washington State University in 2015. Photo: Dr. Tom Collins, Credit: WSU He manages a research program in grape, wine and spirits aroma and flavor chemistry, and teaches courses in grape and wine chemistry and winery operations. In this show we talk all about wine and fire -- topics like: Why are there so many fires and will this trend continue in the future? Who is studying fire and what has been discovered so far? What parts of the vine are affected by fire and what actually damages the grapes? What are the remedies and what can we expect to happen in the future with fire research? A great show with a really smart and easy to understand guest -- important when it's such a complex topic! Full show notes are on Patreon. _______________________________________________________________ I love my exclusive sponsor, my go-to source for the best selection of interesting, outstanding quality wines you can’t find locally. The holidays are almost upon us -- don't forget to stock up for your holiday feasts and get a Wine Access gift card for everyone in your life! Get 10% your first order with To register for an AWESOME, LIVE WFNP class with Elizabeth or get a class gift certificate for the wine lover in your life go to:
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Special update to Episode 327: Wine ingredient & nutrition labeling goes live in the EU (and what it means to us)
11/21/2023
Special update to Episode 327: Wine ingredient & nutrition labeling goes live in the EU (and what it means to us)
This is a special update and recap of . I refreshed and edited that (very short) episode and then MC Ice and I added the details of the new law. We did the original episode in 2020 and at that time it was unclear whether or not Europe would go through with the plan, but they executed it and now we may be seeing back labels with a WHOLE lot more info about the wine! Listen to the update to learn what you NEED to know! This new system goes live on December 8, 2023. There are still a lot of uncertainties, but all European wine lovers should know what the changes are so this is a must listen! Here are a few useful links for further reading... Full show notes are on Patreon. _______________________________________________________________ I love my exclusive sponsor, my go-to source for the best selection of interesting, outstanding quality wines you can’t find locally. The holidays are almost upon us -- don't forget to stock up for your holiday feasts and get a Wine Access gift card for everyone in your life! Get 10% your first order with To register for an AWESOME, LIVE WFNP class with Elizabeth go to:
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Ep 498: Terrific Thanksgiving Food and Wine Pairings
11/13/2023
Ep 498: Terrific Thanksgiving Food and Wine Pairings
Thanksgiving is a hard meal to pair wine with but we've got you covered. After a little bit of wine advice about glassware, serving temps, and my annual "Aunt Gertrude" warning, we get into the pairings for traditional (and some variations on traditional) Thanksgiving fare. We begin with suggestions for wines to welcome your guests, and then move on to: Wine and food pairings for Thanksgiving appetizers/ hors-d'œuvre Wine and food pairings for the meats and main courses of Thanksgiving (my favorite part) Wine pairings for traditional Thanksgiving side dishes From the traditional suggestions of rosé and Riesling to more adventurous things like Amontillado Sherry and Xinomavro, we give you plenty to think about when picking wines for your holiday gathering! Photo credit: Unsplash Full show notes are on Patreon. _______________________________________________________________ I love my exclusive sponsor, my go-to source for the best selection of interesting, outstanding quality wines you can’t find locally. The holidays are almost upon us -- don't forget to stock up for your holiday feasts and get a Wine Access gift card for everyone in your life! Get 10% your first order with To register for an AWESOME, LIVE WFNP class with Elizabeth go to:
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Ep 497: The Grape Mini-Series -- Blaufränkisch (AKA, Lemberger)
11/07/2023
Ep 497: The Grape Mini-Series -- Blaufränkisch (AKA, Lemberger)
This week we cover the unsung red of Central European wine – Blaufränkisch. This Central European red grape was planted widely in throughout the Habsburg Empire, and today the biggest plantings aren’t too far from its birthplace – right on the Austria-Hungary border. Photo: Blaufränkisch. Credit: Blaufränkisch translates to ‘blue wine of the Franks’, and it is known as Lemberger in Germany and the US, Kékrankos in Hungary, Franconia in Italy, and various Burgundy-related names elsewhere in Central Europe. We discuss the origins of all these names, how the grape performs in the vineyard, its flavors, food pairings, and more. Whether it’s from Germany, Slovakia, the Czech Republic, Bulgaria, Croatia, the Finger Lakes of New York, Washington State, Italy or Spain, this grape is versatile, multifacted and a perfect medium bodied red that’s perfect for many foods and all sorts of weather -- it can be chilled in the summer in one version and warm your bones by a fire in another. *Note, we mentioned the Austrian anti-freeze scandal. For more on that and Austria in general, check out an old but still accurate show: © Austrian Wine / Austrian Wine Go get yourself a bottle and you’ll see what we mean! Full show notes are on Patreon. Most information for the show from , , , Wine Grapes (Book, Jancis Robinson) _______________________________________________________________ I love my exclusive sponsor, my go-to source for the best selection of interesting, outstanding quality wines you can’t find locally. The holidays are almost here -- don't forget to stock up for your holiday feasts and get a Wine Access gift card for everyone in your life! Get 10% your first order with To register for an AWESOME, LIVE WFNP class with Elizabeth go to:
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Ep 496: Sherry Refresh Part 2 - Oxidatively Aged Wines, Style Categories, Food Pairing, and Serving Ideas
10/30/2023
Ep 496: Sherry Refresh Part 2 - Oxidatively Aged Wines, Style Categories, Food Pairing, and Serving Ideas
Sherry is a complex wine with lots of terroir, tradition, and winemaking possibilities. In , we go over the stats on the region, the history, the terroir, and details on winemaking, including the solera system. We then describe the biologically aged wines – Fino and Manzanilla. This show is a continuation of episode 495 but after listening to the show I did with MC Ice, I realized it was too meandering, so I recorded this version on my own. This second part of the Sherry refresh has many aspects to it, and I do my best to be as clear as possible with it all. Here are the topics we cover: First, I give a 5 minute review of Sherry winemaking. I explain, anew, the biological aging process and then explain the Oxidative aging process of Olorosos and other wines I explain, in greater detail, the “in between” styles – Amontillado and Palo Cortado, which have been made by a combination of biological and oxidative aging but are slightly different Photo: Different types of Sherry. Source: I talk about the three categories of Sherry styles: Vinos Generosos: the dry styles of Sherry – Fino, Manzanilla, Amontillado, Palo Cortado, Oloroso Vino dolces Naturales: Pedro Ximénez, Moscatel Vinos Generosos de Licor: Pale Cream, Medium, Cream Sherries I discuss the aging categories, which have been effect since 2000: VOS: Vinum Optimum Signatum or Very Old Sherry that has been in a solera for 20 years VORS: Vinum Optimum Rare Signatum or Very Old Rare Sherry that has been in a solera for 30+ years Photo: Legal age statements in sticker format from the Consejo Regulador I wrap with some small this year, sent to me by Patron Chaim G (thanks to Chaim!). I give a thanks to the mixologists for keeping Sherry alive and then sign off! Here is the show with Tio Pepe I mentioned... Full show notes are on Patreon. Most information for the show from the _______________________________________________________________ I love my exclusive sponsor, my go-to source for the best selection of interesting, outstanding quality wines you can’t find locally. The holidays are almost upon us -- don't forget to stock up for your holiday feasts and get a Wine Access gift card for everyone in your life! Get 10% your first order with To register for an AWESOME, LIVE WFNP class with Elizabeth go to:
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Ep 495: Sherry Refresh Part 1 --History, terroir, and Biologically Aged Wines
10/23/2023
Ep 495: Sherry Refresh Part 1 --History, terroir, and Biologically Aged Wines
It's been 11 years since we discussed Sherry, so it's time to do a refreshed show. This time, Sherry is much more mainstream and we're revisiting this fascinating wine that has so much history, and has experienced a renaissance in recent times. We discuss: Where Sherry is and its defining terroir, including the terroir of the bodegas The grapes of Sherry The 3000 year history of the region Winemaking and the complex system of criaderas, soleras, and fractional blending The biologically aged wines (under flor): Fino and Manzanilla Part 2 will include all the other types of Sherries from sweet to the numerous oxidative styles. Here's .. Map: Sherry Wines DO Full show notes are on Patreon. Most information for the show from the _______________________________________________________________ I love my exclusive sponsor, my go-to source for the best selection of interesting, outstanding quality wines you can’t find locally. You HAVE to check out our Halloween pack at -- Spooky wines for my favorite holiday! GREAT Wines and a ton of fun. Get 10% your first order with my special URL. To register for an AWESOME, LIVE WFNP class with Elizabeth go to:
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Ep 494: Wines for Fall
10/16/2023
Ep 494: Wines for Fall
After a very, very hot summer where we live, the weather has broken and we are ready for wines that can warm us up and pair with the smells of crisp fall air and falling leaves, as well as heartier food. In this show, we talk about wines for fall from around the world and why they are going on our wine shopping list this season. We break it down country by country (and give some special attention to Piedmont and Champagne, where I just visited) and hopefully give you some great ideas of new wines you can try out this fall to enjoy the season. Photo: Old Champagne. Credit: Wine For Normal People Full show notes are on Patreon. _______________________________________________________________ I love my exclusive sponsor, my go-to source for the best selection of interesting, outstanding quality wines you can’t find locally. You HAVE to check out our Halloween pack at -- Spooky wines for my favorite holiday! GREAT Wines and a ton of fun. Get 10% your first order with my special URL. To register for an AWESOME, LIVE WFNP class with Elizabeth go to:
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Ep 493: Marina Marcarino of Punset; Barbaresco's Most Forward-Looking Producer Returns to WFNP
10/10/2023
Ep 493: Marina Marcarino of Punset; Barbaresco's Most Forward-Looking Producer Returns to WFNP
. We became friends and I’ve visited her over the years and keep in touch with her for a pulse on what is happening in the vineyards and wineries of Barbaresco, where is located. As a recap of , when Marina Marcarino was in her early 20s, she took over the family vineyard in Neive, Barbaresco (Piedmont, Italy) and named it . She had a revolutionary idea for the 1980s: to turn the vineyard organic. Marina became the first organic producer in Barbaresco. Her vineyards look different, her practices were strange to most back then and when she started using biodynamic in the 1990s, her reputation as “la pazza” – the crazy, was cemented. Fast forward to today, and everyone has followed Marina and she has become one of the thought leaders in environmental stewardship of vineyards in Barbaresco. Those who once mocked her, now use the very same practices she pioneered and she has gained the respect of them all. When I was visiting Piedmont recently, I was able to catch up with and ask her for an update about the region and about . She is such a forward looking person -- this is a real opportunity to hear about what will likely be happening in wine and in Piedmont in the future. We discuss controversial topics and general ones, and her insightful answers will have you thinking more deeply about the entire region and about farming, winemaking, and a little of life philosophy thrown in. She is the president of , a consortium of quality producers who seek to educate and properly market the wines of the Langhe, and she shares some of the things she's done and is doing in that role as well. I hope you find her passion and intelligence as awesome as I do! Enjoy this one – you’ll learn so much! Don't forget to listen to the OG with Marina that goes over her story.. Full show notes are on Patreon. _______________________________________________________________ I love my exclusive sponsor, my go-to source for the best selection of interesting, outstanding quality wines you can’t find locally. You HAVE to check out our Halloween pack at -- Spooky wines for my favorite holiday! GREAT Wines and a ton of fun. Get 10% your first order with my special URL. To register for an AWESOME, LIVE WFNP class with Elizabeth go to:
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Ep 492: Polly Hammond of 5Forests -- The Esteemed Wine Marketing Innovator Shares Trends We Should Know
10/03/2023
Ep 492: Polly Hammond of 5Forests -- The Esteemed Wine Marketing Innovator Shares Trends We Should Know
This week, my close friend, web guru, and the best digital marketer in the wine biz -- -- discusses some fascinating topics in wine. We have a great conversation about the state of wine marketing, it's disconnection with normal people (and reasons for it), and how there is more to some trends than clickbait would have you believe! Polly is very different in the world of wine. She is actually a regular person, who understands how normal people think about and drink wine. She is the Founder and CEO of 5forests, where she works with wineries around the world to help them understand how to reach normal people, and bridge the gap between the wine industry and the people it’s supposed to serve. If you love , it’s Polly’s work (and if you need help with a company web site, she doesn’t just do wine stuff, so contact her to help you). She is launching “Head Training” this month, her third podcast/web series on wine to help educate winery owners and others in the wine business on good marketing practices. It’s a weekly YouTube Series that is focusing on in depth topics, some are interviews, and some are recaps. Full show notes are on Patreon. _______________________________________________________________ I love my exclusive sponsor, my go-to source for the best selection of interesting, outstanding quality wines you can’t find locally. Go to to join my co-branded wine club with Wine Access and so see a page of the wines I'm loving right now from their collection. Get 10% your first order with my special URL. The holidays will be here before you know it -- plan ahead and order great wines for the season today! To register for an AWESOME, LIVE WFNP class with Elizabeth go to:
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Ep 491: The Grape Mini-Series -- The Pinot Noir Refresh
09/25/2023
Ep 491: The Grape Mini-Series -- The Pinot Noir Refresh
Pinot Noir is a challenging grape. It’s hard to grow, hard to work with in the cellar, and the style varies drastically based on where it’s made, who is making it, and when it was grown (vintage). We haven’t covered Pinot in a decade, so we decided to do a reboot on the grape mini-series and add all the new information and insights I’ve gathered over the last 10+ years since the last one. From clones to climate change, we give the full story on Pinot and talk about how no two wines are alike and the many reasons they differ. We cover the main growing regions in the Old World – Burgundy, Germany, Italy, etc – and the New World – California, Oregon, New Zealand, Chile, Australia and more – and discuss the style differences between the major regions. This show is packed with information (and it’s got my opinions too, which may not be yours…don’t be offended!). If you love Pinot, check regularly on winefornormalpeople.com/classes for the Pinot Noir Around the World class, taught twice a year, and the Wines of Burgundy class, which is an intensive look at the birthplace of Pinot. Enjoy! Podcasts Referenced: Full show notes are on Patreon. _______________________________________________________________ I love my exclusive sponsor, my go-to source for the best selection of interesting, outstanding quality wines you can’t find locally. Go to to join my co-branded wine club with Wine Access and so see a page of the wines I'm loving right now from their collection. Get 10% your first order with my special URL. The holidays will be here before you know it -- plan ahead and order great wines for the season today! To register for an AWESOME, LIVE WFNP class with Elizabeth go to:
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Ep 490: Tasmania, Australia
09/19/2023
Ep 490: Tasmania, Australia
This week we cover Australia’s coolest and most southerly region, Tasmania. This island, which is 240 km/150 off the mainland has had some starts and stops in wine, but the recent past has seen it on an upward trajectory for Chardonnay, Pinot Noir, sparkling made of those grapes, plus Sauvignon Blanc, Riesling, Syrah, and Pinot Gris, among others. We give an overview of this very distinct Australian region, discuss terroir and climate, the sub areas, and then talk about the bright future of these high-acidity, elegant wines. Photo: Vineyards in Tasmania. Credit: Getty Images/Canva Full show notes are on Patreon. _______________________________________________________________ I love my exclusive sponsor, my go-to source for the best selection of interesting, outstanding quality wines you can’t find locally. Go to to join my co-branded wine club with Wine Access and so see a page of the wines I'm loving right now from their collection. Get 10% your first order with my special URL. The holidays will be here before you know it -- plan ahead and order great wines for the season today! To register for an AWESOME, LIVE WFNP class with Elizabeth go to: Main Sources:
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Ep 489: Madeira -- The best wine you may be missing out on...
09/12/2023
Ep 489: Madeira -- The best wine you may be missing out on...
As suggested by patron Keith S, this week we take a detailed look at Madeira, the Portuguese island that makes a unique and delicious fortified wine! We discuss the very important history (it’s why the wine is made the way it is, so even if you hate history, don’t skip that part!), the geography and climate of this far-flung island, the grapes that thrive here, and the unbelievable way this fortified wine has been made for centuries. Photo: Frasqueira Madeira, Boal 1977. Source: Getty Images (canva) From the single varieties, to dryness levels, to aging levels, we give a broad overview of this complex wine. We share the facts about the wine and sprinkle in commentary about why we love it so much. There is always a bottle around here for a reason (and part of that reason: you can open it and it won’t spoil for months and months…!). Ditch your idea of cheap cooking versions, this is the real Madeira and we hope this inspires you to try it! As promised here is a list of the Madeira brands: HM Borges, Henriques & Henriques, J. Faria & Filhos, Justinos, Don Pablo, Pereira d’Oliveira, Barbeito, Broadbent, Madeira Vintners, and Madeira Wine Company (owns Blandy’s, Cossart Gordon, Miles Madeira, Atlantis) Photo: The HM Borges Sercial and the Caracol from FitaPreta, DOC Madeirense. Credit: WfNP Full show notes are on Patreon. _______________________________________________________________ I love my exclusive sponsor, my go-to source for the best selection of interesting, outstanding quality wines you can’t find locally. Go to to join my co-branded wine club with Wine Access and so see a page of the wines I'm loving right now from their collection. Get 10% your first order with my special URL. The holidays will be here before you know it -- plan ahead and order great wines for the season today! To register for an AWESOME, LIVE WFNP class with Elizabeth go to:
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Ep 488: Wine Travel -- The Inside Scoop on How to Have an Awesome Trip
09/04/2023
Ep 488: Wine Travel -- The Inside Scoop on How to Have an Awesome Trip
In this show, we share our best tips for traveling to wine regions. We cover planning and research, the best time of year to visit, and important factors once you’re on the ground. From getting a shipper so your wine is ready to check or ship, to stocking up on gas and provisions, to traveling with kids, we’ve got you covered. Photo: Château Phelan-Segur. Credit: Wine For Normal People Some key resources we mention: The WFNP podcast catalog is a great resource for finding wineries I recommend: The information on getting wine home, as published on the US Customs & Border Site: I hope you enjoy this show and it makes wine travel more fun and relaxing! Happy trails! Full show notes are on Patreon. _______________________________________________________________ I love my exclusive sponsor, my go-to source for the best selection of interesting, outstanding quality wines you can’t find locally. Go to to join my co-branded wine club with Wine Access and so see a page of the wines I'm loving right now from their collection. Get 10% your first order with my special URL. today! To register for an AWESOME, LIVE WFNP class with Elizabeth go to:
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Ep 487: New Zealand -- The Overview
08/28/2023
Ep 487: New Zealand -- The Overview
How can it be that we have never done an overview on New Zealand? We decided to remedy that this week. This is a sweeping look at the two-island nation that has a huge wine reputation, even though it only accounts for 1% of the wine made in the world. In this show, we give an overview of the wine history of New Zealand, which is probably longer than you think, and then go through the regions to tell you how they differ from one another, why they are unique and the top wines you should look for. Although Marlborough represents 70% of wine made, we encourage you to look beyond it and try some of the other regions, which may just revive your love for the place with the most southerly wine regions in the world! Check out the show notes for the podcasts that we've done that focus on specific areas of New Zealand with , Simone Madden-Gray and Jeff Clarke of O:TU Here are the podcasts we reference in the show: Materials for the show from and the podcast referenced above: Full show notes are on Patreon. _______________________________________________________________ I love my exclusive sponsor, my go-to source for the best selection of interesting, outstanding quality wines you can’t find locally. Go to to join my co-branded wine club with Wine Access and so see a page of the wines I'm loving right now from their collection. Get 10% your first order with my special URL. today! To register for an AWESOME, LIVE WFNP class with Elizabeth go to:
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Ep 486: The (REAL) Inner Workings of the Wine Industry with NY Retailer Daniel Posner of Grapes, The Wine Company
08/21/2023
Ep 486: The (REAL) Inner Workings of the Wine Industry with NY Retailer Daniel Posner of Grapes, The Wine Company
In this show, I welcome my friend and wine industry guru Daniel Posner, the owner of the prestigious New York retailer, . Daniel joined in 2000 and was the managing partner by 2004. For the past 23 years, he has been a wine consultant, with clients from all over the globe. He travels to wine regions to meet with producers, winemakers, winery owners, especially in his favorite areas of Burgundy, Piedmont, Tuscany, and California. He knows the ins and outs of the New York wine scene, and the inside dirt that is pretty fascinating to those of us on the outside. Daniel also serves on the Board of Directors of the National Association of Wine Retailers, a national trade organization founded in 2006, for which he served as President from 2011 to 2019. I met him at the NAWR conference, where he and frequent podcast guest were gracious enough to have me. Daniel has been featured and quoted in the New York Times, Wine Spectator, Food & Wine Magazine, Forbes Magazine, and The Wall Street Journal referred to him one of the most influential wine retailers in the United States. From how companies in Europe get their wine to the us, to pricing and how the producers and consumers lose out through layers upon layers of markups, to the murky politics of wine and international wine scandals, in the last 20+ years, has seen it all and he shares it in this show. This podcast will teach you more about the business of wine than almost any other I’ve done. I often talk about the shady underbelly of wine – here it is, exposed in all its glory! Check out Daniel's amazing, curated selection and order wine for shipping (where legal!). Full show notes are on Patreon. _______________________________________________________________ I love my exclusive sponsor, my go-to source for the best selection of interesting, outstanding quality wines you can’t find locally. Go to to join my co-branded wine club with Wine Access and so see a page of the wines I'm loving right now from their collection. Get 10% your first order with my special URL. today! To register for an AWESOME, LIVE WFNP class with Elizabeth go to:
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Ep 485: The Grape Miniseries -- Marsanne
08/14/2023
Ep 485: The Grape Miniseries -- Marsanne
This time we dive into one of the three main grapes of the Northern Rhône: Marsanne. Related to Roussanne, the grape with which it is almost always blended, this grape reaches its heights in the wines of Hermitage in northern Rhône and does exceptional things around the world from Victoria and South Australia, to the US, to New Zealand and South Africa. Photo: Chante-Alouette from Chapoutier, the wine we mention in the show. Credit: Wine For Normal People Although not a grape you will encounter as a standalone varietal that often, its contribution to the great whites of the Rhone can’t be underestimated. This grape is vital to understand if you are interested in diving deeper into the world of Rhône whites (which you definitely should do!). Full show notes are on Patreon. _______________________________________________________________ I love my exclusive sponsor, my go-to source for the best selection of interesting, outstanding quality wines you can’t find locally. Go to to join my co-branded wine club with Wine Access and so see a page of the wines I'm loving right now from their collection. Get 10% your first order with my special URL. today! To register for an AWESOME, LIVE WFNP class with Elizabeth go to: Sources used in the show: , Matt Walls (also listen to ) Dr. José Vouillamoz, Jancis Robinson, and Julia Harding , Oz Clarke and Margaret Rand (Also, )
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Ep 484: Alternatives to a Favorite - Riesling
08/07/2023
Ep 484: Alternatives to a Favorite - Riesling
After reviewing some of the basics about Riesling (possibly my favorite white grape!), we talk about some other wines that may be interesting to try. Photo: The Riesling grape. Credit: Getty Images, Canva We start out with the ones on everyone’s list – Chenin Blanc, Torrontés, Albariño, Gewürztraminer, and Grüner Veltliner – but then venture deep into other territory, giving you some very different wines to consider! From Pecorino to Malagouzia, this show will give you some great ideas for wines to try if you love Riesling but want to change it up a bit! Full show notes are on Patreon. _______________________________________________________________ I love my exclusive sponsor, my go-to source for the best selection of interesting, outstanding quality wines you can’t find locally. Go to to join my co-branded wine club with Wine Access and so see a page of the wines I'm loving right now from their collection. Get 10% your first order with my special URL. today! To register for an AWESOME, LIVE WFNP class with Elizabeth go to:
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Ep 483: A Trip to Portugal -- Wine Insights & Travel Tips
07/31/2023
Ep 483: A Trip to Portugal -- Wine Insights & Travel Tips
This show is a recap of the wine experiences that we had while spending three weeks in Portugal and tasting through as much of the wines from that country as we could! Our itinerary included: The Algarve in the southern part of the country – a beautiful, dramatic seaside area with sandstone and limestone cliffs, which drop into the sea. There, we stayed in Lagos, a lovely town with excellent food and some fantastic wine bars including (the best!), (also quite good), and . Other great restaurants were and in Odiaxére near Lagos (both run by real Italians with good Italian wine!), and . Although we found that the native wines of the Algarve weren’t for us, we did have great bottles from Peninsula de Sétubal, Dão, and Douro, and some great Madeira and Port. Then we spent a week in Cascais, outside of Lisbon. We visited the wine regions of Colares and Évora, a sub region of the Alentejo region. I loved the wines of the oldest co-op in Europe in Colares – , which has helped keep winemaking alive in this small region and in Évora/Alentejo, the magical wines of . This pod is full of travel tips and our recommendations of specific wines if you happen to be heading to central and southern Portugal. Enjoy! Full show notes are on Patreon. _______________________________________________________________ I love my exclusive sponsor, my go-to source for the best selection of interesting, outstanding quality wines you can’t find locally. Every box you get from is meticulous -- tasting notes with food and wine pairing, serving temperature suggestions, and perfectly stored wine. Go to to join my co-branded wine club with Wine Access and so see a page of the wines I'm loving right now from their collection. Get 10% your first order. today! To register for an AWESOME, LIVE WFNP class with Elizabeth go to:
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Ep 482: Antonio Capaldo of Feudi San Gregorio Returns
07/24/2023
Ep 482: Antonio Capaldo of Feudi San Gregorio Returns
While I was in Irpinia, Campania (southern Italy) earlier this year, I got to spend an afternoon and dinner with Antonio Capaldo, Chairman and mastermind behind , the largest and one of the highest quality producers in the region. This episode recaps a lot of the really interesting conversations we had about the steady traction the region has gained in terms of reputation, the culture of art and how it connects with the wine, the bond of this region to its incredible past, and the challenges of being in a region that not enough people know about. We discuss the potential for Irpinia to be known as a top white wine region in the world and how it will get there. Photo: For all the background on Antonio and please listen to and then come back to this show to dig into some of the fascinating issues producers face when they have everything going for them, and yet still have a hard time getting their wines to us. This should be an eye-opener! Full show notes are on Patreon. _______________________________________________________________ I love my exclusive sponsor, my go-to source for the best selection of interesting, outstanding quality wines you can’t find locally. Every box you get from is meticulous -- tasting notes with food and wine pairing, serving temperature suggestions, and perfectly stored wine. Go to to join my co-branded wine club with Wine Access and so see a page of the wines I'm loving right now from their collection. Get 10% your first order. today! To register for an AWESOME, LIVE WFNP class with Elizabeth go to:
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Ep 481: Eva Martinelli - Chianti Classico Winemaker & Region Expert
07/17/2023
Ep 481: Eva Martinelli - Chianti Classico Winemaker & Region Expert
Eva Martinelli is a young, innovative, and experienced winemaker from Tuscany. She has a degree in oenology, a deep understanding of terroir of Chianti Classico, and an unrivaled passion for the region. She has worked harvests in New and Old World countries, after which she returned home to follow her dream of being a winemaker in the region she loves most. Photo: Eva Martinelli, Credit:Wine For Normal People I met Eva in May 2023, while on the tour of Tuscany with a group of She works for a very historic winery in Chianti Classico, giving tours and managing the sales and tourism for that winery. The Patrons and I loved her and learned so many new things about Chianti Classico from her. In this show we discuss the terroir of Chianti Classico from a more geological standpoint, the history of the region, and the honest truth about the struggle of young, talented winemakers in Chianti Classico and other parts of Italy. Here is her list of her three favorite wineries in Radda in Chianti (Patreon show notes have an expanded list): -Fattoria di Montemaggio -Podere Capaccia -Il Barlettaio This is an eye-opening show and a great one to learn general info about Chianti from an objective expert who has no brand agenda or marketing angle to put forward! Cheers to Eva and all the young winemakers of Chianti Classico! Full show notes are on Patreon. _______________________________________________________________ Big news! my go-to source for the best selection of interesting, just gave a haircut to the price of my wine club with them! Now it's juts $150 for 6 bottles of amazing wines that I select, write about, and record videos on! Go to to join my wine club with Wine Access and get 10% your first order. To register for an AWESOME, LIVE WFNP class with Elizabeth go to:
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