157 | Coach and Elite Runner Laura Thweatt on Rebuilding and Reinvention
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“That injury was one of the most psychologically harrowing experiences of my career, just figuring out how to navigate that space, how to eventually see it as a superpower … if I hadn't gotten that injury, I wouldn't have been able to rebuild my body in a way that allowed me to come back a completely different athlete. I think because of all the work I had to do in the gym to address things I had never addressed my entire career, coming off of that gave me longevity.” Elite runner Laura Thweatt had a lengthy career at the top level of the sport—while running for Saucony for more...
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156 | Coach Carrie Answers a Question: How to Cope with Shifting Timelines
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“ How do I deal with expectations around timelines?” —Every injured athlete, ever In season 8 of The Injured Athletes Club podcast, mental skills coach Carrie Jackson answers a question every other week about the mental side of overcoming injuries. And for our season finale, she tackles an issue that’s come up from more than one person: how to manage when recovery takes longer than you’d like. So many injured athletes have had the experience of latching onto an initial timeline given by a doctor, physical therapist, or other medical professional—then feeling let...
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155 | Volleyball Player and Dietitian Tatum Vedder on Nourishing Your Recovery
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“ Surgeries one through three, there is still this fear around weight gain and therefore restriction. And I think part of me wants to know, is that a major factor in why I didn't heal well? I'm not going to dwell on that or guilt-trip myself over it; it's in the past. But it was also an opportunity for surgeries four and onward, to say: ‘Let's take a different approach. Let's nourish to heal. Let's not feed to skate by.’” Tatum Vedder was heading into her last year of collegiate volleyball, playing in a co-ed tournament, when she took a rough landing and had to be carried...
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154 | Coach Carrie Answers a Question from Kat: Having Radical Honesty with Your Coach
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“ I’ve unfortunately faced a series of surgeries and setbacks over the last few years. While I feel like I have a supportive group of friends, I don’t feel like my primary coach has been that understanding of the mental toll that this has taken on me or how to navigate a game plan through my recovery, even though she’s successfully done that in the past with me as injuries have come up. She doesn’t feel approachable to talk to and rarely reaches out to me. While I know she isn’t my therapist, I feel like I should be able to have honest conversations with her. When I’m not...
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153 | Elite Runner and Coach Becki Spellman: Embracing Your Best Each Day
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“ It really helped me as a coach to be able to look at my athletes and remind them, it doesn't have to be about a PR, doesn't have to be about the best day you wanted, but it can be—if you're healthy—about the best day you have that day. And that can be celebrated, that can be fun, even if it isn't the outcome you would've ideally written in your book.” Becki Spellman has had a long, successful career in distance running—she qualified for her first Olympic Marathon Trials in 2008 and her fourth in 2020. In that time, she’s dealt with her fair share of setbacks, including...
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152 | Coach Carrie Answers Two Questions: Don’t Play the Self-Blame Game
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“With overuse injuries especially, how do you help injured athletes recognize what to take ownership for, and what was out of their control? For example, one's weightlifting form may have led them to injury. Shame and guilt can be common emotions here, which are not helpful to our recovery, but how do we recognize what causal factors to take ownership of in a healthy way?” —Clark “If a series of acute injuries are a consequence of a chronic condition, how can you ever live without fear of reinjury or, perhaps worse, self-blame? Asking for a friend.” —Jennifer In...
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151 | Paralympian Ryan Medrano on Visualizing Success—then Living It
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“ That's how I learn life. I look at it, I visualize myself doing it, and then I execute. And if it doesn't feel right, I can feel it. I can see it, almost like a third person's view. That's the way I've approached life; that's the way I've been able to really reel in on what I'm good at and what I'm not good at.” Ryan Medrano has faced his share of challenges—he was born with mild cerebral palsy, which caused motor and cognitive delays, and was often bullied as a child because of it. But as he learned to walk and read social signals, he gained knowledge about himself and the...
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150 | Coach Carrie Answers a Question from Kathy: On Having Patience for the Long Haul
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“ How do you stay patient when the doctor says you’re doing too much? Mentally I get so down.” —Kathy In season 8 of The Injured Athletes Club podcast, mental skills coach Carrie Jackson answers a question every other week about the mental side of overcoming injuries. This week, she empathizes with Kathy’s conundrum—most injured athletes aren’t happy with the pace of their recovery, because they don’t want to be injured in the first place. But patience is essential, and the way to cultivate it is to recognize it for the strength and power that it...
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149 | Hockey Player and Marathoner Thomas E. Smith on Becoming What’s Possible
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”What went through my mind—I was 19 at the time, my birthday was the prior month—was, oh my goodness, is my life over in terms of being able to live my dream? Because hockey, for me, wasn't just a sport. It was a gateway to do better in all facets of life.” doesn’t like the word “impossible.” After all, time after time, he’s beaten the odds. After a paralyzing spinal cord injury during a hockey game, some doctors didn’t think he would walk again—but he found a team that believed he could not only walk but skate. Nine months later, he returned to the ice. ...
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148 | Coach Carrie Answers a Question from Whitney: Rejoining the Group Ride
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“ When you're injured and beginning to rejoin group rides/workouts, how do you let other riders know you're not at 100%? I'm thinking specifically of gravel and mountain biking. I have trouble clipping out quickly, and am currently overly cautious. I want to ride in the very back, but sometimes there are other people ALSO trying to ride in the back. I know people don't want/need to hear my ‘woe is me' injury story, but I also don't want to be a hazard!” —Whitney In season 8 of The Injured Athletes Club podcast, mental skills coach Carrie Jackson answers a question every other...
info_outlineInjuries affect essentially every athlete. The experience is as much mental as physical. But typically, the support athletes receive during this time has focused mostly on healing joints, bones, and tendons—not thoughts, emotions, and experiences.
As a mental skills coach and a journalist writing about sports and fitness, this discrepancy stood out to us like a sore thumb. That's why we started this podcast and our Facebook group for injured athletes, hoping to change the narrative around recovery. And now—as we announced at the end of last season—we have a new resource to share with you. Our book Rebound: Train Your Mind to Bounce Back Stronger from Sports Injuries will be out Oct. 15 from Bloomsbury Sport (you can pre-order it on Amazon or through the publisher now!).
Rebound includes many of the concepts and tools we’ve talked about on this podcast, and lots more—a total of 49 mental drills to try, along with explanations of why they work and stories of athletes who’ve been there. With these resources, our goal is to not only help you recover from injury, but come back a stronger, more resilient athlete and person, both within your sport and outside it.
In this episode, we discuss:
- How Carrie got into sport psychology and helping injured athletes specifically—and how we began working together (2:23)
- The four key themes of the book (7:45)
- The ways injury affects athletes psychologically (10:38)
- Why the experience differs from athlete to athlete and injury to injury—and what determines how well an athlete copes (13:31)
- Why we need a book like this, and how exactly mental skills training can help athletes during their rehab process (16:29)
- Whether some athletes are naturally tougher and better able to handle injury, and what Carrie learned about sport psychology from singing in harmony (18:22)
- Why Rebound won’t ensure athletes never have any negative thoughts, and why that isn’t something you should actually strive for in the first place (21:22)
- How the book is set up and how athletes can use it (23:18)
- What the title means exactly, and how athletes can visualize their recovery like a bouncing ball (25:54)
- How mental skills can also help athletes who have life-altering injuries—and how they transcend sports to help anyone overcome any obstacle (32:40)
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Resources/links we mention:
- Episode 2 of season 1, explaining The Injured Athletes Club
- Carrie’s first book, On Top of Your Game
- Our launch week events in Chicago, Oct. 9 to 12
To access more resources for injured athletes:
- Join The Injured Athletes Club mailing list, for weekly news and updates
- Join The Injured Athletes Club Facebook group, for support and camaraderie
- Email us at hello@injuredathletesclub.com with questions, guest suggestions, or other feedback
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