No BS Approach to Business Development with Vanessa Joy
Beyond the Image Podcast
Business development is likely the most stressful element of a photographer's career. Having to market and sell while navigating the relentless fear of rejection is what separates those who are able to successful grow their careers from those who continue to struggle. Well, let's fix that, shall we? My guest today on the Beyond the Image podcast is Vanessa Joy. She has worked with thousands of photographers not only in mastering their craft, but to actually build a sustainable business. Vanessa is a Canon Explorer of Light and has generated a multi-million dollar photography business working...
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[FREE GUIDE] Legacy Planner Annual Goal Strategy Guide
Beyond the Image Podcast
The last planner you will ever need! Plan out your year, months, weeks and days with The Legacy Planner to get more done, stay on track and chart out your most successful year ever! Why do some individuals seem to possess the capacity to consistently achieve great things in their lives, while others tend to struggle? Perhaps you have wondered the same thing and questioned what specifically separates the two groups. If we are to believe musings from the infinite parade of social media memes, then each of us are already abundant with endless potential. Yet despite that potential, for some...
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I Got Scammed
Beyond the Image Podcast
Early in my career I got scammed by a client who hired me to photograph an event for his company, and then never paid me. His company eventually disappeared and two decades passed until I came across him again. He had relocated, launched a new company and was on the cover of a pay to be featured magazine. What happened next with the magazine was really interesting. [NEWS] The Legacy Planner is newly updated for 2025! Get your copy now at
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Your Watermarks Suck
Beyond the Image Podcast
The last time I dared talk about photographers using watermarks, I got a few (okay, a lot) of angry messages. But I hope this time you hear me out on why watermarking your photos is a futile effort that only satiates ego and does nothing to actually help your brand or business. https://jamespatrick.com/
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Getting Fired by Clients
Beyond the Image Podcast
By default we only want to share our wins and successes. The fear is that if we are open and honest about projects that don't go well or client experiences that are not stellar that it will somehow reflect negatively upon us. The truth is, when we only share the positives about our careers, it gives a false aspiration of what a creative career truly looks like. Throughout our careers we will lose more work than we will ever win. That is the simple math of it. And once we acknowledge that reality - we can begin to look at losses as not failures but as opportunities to learn and improve our...
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Photographers Give Terrible Advice
Beyond the Image Podcast
When I am in the mood to torture myself, I hop over to Photography Facebook Groups and read the comment sections whenever a photographer asked for help, support or advice. The inevitable result is a barrage of awful keyboard critics giving the worst advice pretending they are being altruistic and supportive - but in reality just trying to keep others out of the industry they believe they are at the center of. In this episode I discuss what happened when a photographer made the mistake of asking for help. https://jamespatrick.com/
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Nightmare Photo Shoots **Halloween Special!**
Beyond the Image Podcast
I selected 13 (of course) of the most terrifying photo experiences I've had in my 20+ year career. Everything from having people physically assault me to say I'm too young to be a photographer. Enjoy my awful memories while I go into an anxiety attack reliving these horrific experiences. https://jamespatrick.com/
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How to Ask a Photographer to Work for Free
Beyond the Image Podcast
Okay don't get too mad at me for this episode! It is not that I am encouraging photographers that they have to work for free. But I wanted to dissect how someone could professionally and respectfully ask a photographer to collaborate or provide services at low-to-no cost. https://jamespatrick.com/
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Competition in Photography
Beyond the Image Podcast
How do we best compete as photographers in a way that supports the community and industry as a whole? And what happens when photographers go against that supportive environment and try to harm other's businesses? In this episode of the Beyond the Image podcast, host James Patrick discusses both sides of competition from healthy to unhealthy. Connect with James Patrick at https://jamespatrick.com/
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When Should Photographers Work for Free
Beyond the Image Podcast
When should photographers work for free? If you've followed me for anything length of time, you've seen the numerous videos and posts I've done about cheap clients trying to take advantage of photographers. You would, no doubt, asssume I would be diligent about saying that no photographer or creative should ever work for free. But that is not what I feel at all. In this episode of the Beyond the Image podcast, I chat about the times when photographers and creatives should consider taking out the camera without being paid. What do you think? Connect with me on my website or Instagram
info_outlineTune into an exclusive LIVE Fit Business Online to hear a live coaching session with an amazing coach, Shannon Fable. Shannon is going to be teaching us how as fitness professionals and coaches we can leverage our trust, rapport and credibility to book ourselves solid.
So much of what we see in the health and fitness space, whether it’s personal trainers, coaches, gym owners, is the idea that “I have to fix my marketing, I have to really get aggressive” while simultaneously trying quick fix solutions or a strategy that may have worked for someone else.
Shannon has a rich history working with health and fitness professionals to help them bolster up their business and bring in more clients in a very authentic and effective way.
“You have to commit to finding time to work on your business, not just in your business.”
IN THIS EPISODE
- Shannon’s background and how she got to where she is today.
- Why it’s important to go outside your industry to learn what is really working.
- Connecting with people on a deep level in your own way and why you need to be doing this!
- Finding time to do the work and how this will be the only way to bring change.
- Having a firm foundation.
- Determining your target market and deciding what group of people speaks to you.
- Determine your what - the #1 benefit you provide and how to portray this correctly.
- Articulating your why
- Specificity and shifting into an abundance mindset.
- The right way to respond to consumer demand.
- Three boxes of innovation and what they are in detail.
1 - Linear
2 - Leap frog thinking
3 - Selectively forgetting the past
- Why consistency is important and specific ways to stay consistent.
- You need a no-barrier entry offer!
- Sales cycle vs. sales funnel and why sales cycles are important, especially in playing the long game.
- Leaning into the digital world and using it for your benefit.
- Not all is loss if someone says no right away.
- Value - you can’t give away too much!
- Pricing correctly and learning to make money in your sleep.
- The 3 mandatory self promotion strategies Shannon recommends.
“Marketing doesn’t get you clients, it just gets you awareness.”
Connect with Shannon
Website: www.shannonfable.com
Instagram: @sfable
Facebook: Shannon Fable
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