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Leave No One Behind with RAZOR 3 pilot Al Mack

Lessons From The Cockpit

Release Date: 08/09/2022

Episode #113: Strategy and Tactics for the Surge with Joe Katuzeinski show art Episode #113: Strategy and Tactics for the Surge with Joe Katuzeinski

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šŸŽ™ļø Episode – Lessons from the Cockpit Welcome to another mission-ready episode of the Lessons from the Cockpit show! I’m your host Lt. Col. Mark Hasara, retired Air Force KC-135 pilot, Weapons School graduate, and aviation fanatic for over 60 years. Strap in for this one—because we’re bringing serious airpower experience to the table. Joining me today is one of the smartest Air Force officers I’ve ever worked with—Lt. Col. Joe ā€œTAZZā€ Katuzeinski. He and I go way back to our Weapons and Tactics days at Kadena Air Base in Okinawa in the '90s. Since then, TAZZ has led combat...

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Episode #112: When do you CEASE FIRE? show art Episode #112: When do you CEASE FIRE?

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šŸŽ™ļø Episode 112 – How Do You Know When to Stop the Fight? Welcome back to another airpower-packed episode of Lessons from the Cockpit! I’m your host Lt. Col. Mark Hasara, retired KC-135 Weapons Officer and Joint Specialty Officer. For 60 years, I’ve lived and breathed aviation. Today we are going to talk about a very tough aspect of planning for war! Here’s the question I’ve been getting all week: ā€œMark, how do you know when it’s time to stop shooting?ā€ How does a war end? Who decides when the mission is complete? And what happens if we stop too late—or too soon? This...

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Episode #111: Operation Rising Lion and US Response Options show art Episode #111: Operation Rising Lion and US Response Options

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šŸŽ™ļø Episode 111 – Operation Rising Lion: Israel’s Knockout Blow to Iran! Strap in for the 111th episode of the Lessons from the Cockpit show! I’m Mark Hasara, retired Air Force KC-135 pilot, Weapons School graduate, and the guy who’s been obsessed with aviation for over 60 years.   This episode dives into one of the most aggressive and precise modern air campaigns we’ve seen in decades—Operation Rising Lion. The Israeli Defense Force (IDF) just delivered a massive punch to Iran’s military command, nuclear program scientists, religious leaders, and ballistic missile...

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Episode #110 – The Drone Swarm Wake-Up Call: Is the US and our Allies Ready? show art Episode #110 – The Drone Swarm Wake-Up Call: Is the US and our Allies Ready?

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šŸŽ™ļø Episode 110 – The Drone Swarm Wake-Up Call: Is the US and our Allies Ready? Welcome to the 110th episode of the Lessons from the Cockpit show! I’m Mark Hasara, former Air Force KC-135 pilot, Weapons School graduate, and author of Tanker Pilot. For 60 years, aviation has been my world—from flying gas station in the sky to mission planning at the highest levels of command. This episode is a battle cry. šŸ’„ Ukraine Just Changed the Air Warfare Game Over the weekend, Ukraine launched one of the boldest moves we’ve ever seen in modern air warfare: a long-range drone swarm strike...

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Episode #109 – From MiG-21s to the A-10 Hawg: The Incredible Journey of Major Joszph ā€œBoaratā€ Jonas show art Episode #109 – From MiG-21s to the A-10 Hawg: The Incredible Journey of Major Joszph ā€œBoaratā€ Jonas

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šŸŽ™ļø EPISODE 109 – From MiG-21 to A-10 Hawg: The Incredible Journey of Lt Col Joszph ā€œBoaratā€ Jonas Welcome back to Lessons from the Cockpit, the show that brings you stories and lessons learned from aviators who've been there, done that, and brought the jet home. I’m Mark Hasara—KC-135 instructor pilot, Air Force Weapons School grad, author of Tanker Pilot, and your host for Episode 109. This one’s going to hit you right between the afterburners. āœˆļø From Opposing Forces to Brothers-in-Arms My guest is Cliff Wilson, an Air Force C-141 Starlifter driver and UPT instructor in...

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Episode #108 – The Tanker World’s in Trouble: ARSAG, Anaconda, and Global Tensions on the Nation’s DIME. show art Episode #108 – The Tanker World’s in Trouble: ARSAG, Anaconda, and Global Tensions on the Nation’s DIME.

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šŸŽ™ļø EPISODE #108 – The Tanker World’s in Trouble: ARSAG, Anaconda, and Global Tensions on the Nation’s DIME Strap in and listen up, warriors. Welcome to Episode 108 of the Lessons from the Cockpit Show. I’m Lt Col Mark Hasara, USAF (Ret.)—KC-135 pilot, Weapons School grad, Joint Specialty Officer, and your host for this mission. I just got back from Air Refueling Systems Advisory Group or ARSAG 2025 at Planet Hollywood in Vegas—a gathering of the best and sharpest minds in global air refueling planning and operations. Senior leaders from the USAF, Royal Air Force, and RAAF, and...

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Episode #107 – Hercules to Hawgs: Flying Both Ends of the Fight with Col. Derek ā€œWoodyā€ Oaks show art Episode #107 – Hercules to Hawgs: Flying Both Ends of the Fight with Col. Derek ā€œWoodyā€ Oaks

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šŸŽ™ļø Episode 107 – Hercules to Hawgs: Flying at Both Ends of the Fight with Col. Derek ā€œWoodyā€ Oaks. Welcome aboard the 107th sortie of the Lessons from the Cockpit Show I’m Lt Col Mark Hasara, USAF (Ret.), KC-135 Weapons Officer and your pilot for today’s mission. I’ve flown jets, built war plans, and stayed hopelessly addicted to aviation for over 60 years. This week? You're in for one hell of a ride. After two attempts, we finally locked in this high-value target: Col. Derek ā€œWoodyā€ Oaks, a pilot who flew both ends of the Air Force spectrum—from hauling cargo in the...

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Episode #104: Black Jets and Gucci Birds with Retired Lt Col Mike Ethridge show art Episode #104: Black Jets and Gucci Birds with Retired Lt Col Mike Ethridge

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Welcome to Episode 104 of Lessons from the Cockpit! I’m Mark Hasara, former KC-135 pilot, author of Tanker Pilot: Lessons from the Cockpit, and a lifelong aviation fanatic. For over 60 years, aviation has been my passion, and this show brings you stories from the cockpit, the mission planning room, and beyond. This week, I sit down with Mike Ethridge, a longtime friend and fellow Air Force aviator. We met as cadets at BYU’s ROTC Detachment 855, and he went on to fly the KC-10A Extender, KC-135s and every Boeing airframe Delta Airlines has flown around the world. What’s in This...

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Episode #105: Lessons from Marine Corps Aviation with Colonel Byron ā€œShrekā€ Sullivan show art Episode #105: Lessons from Marine Corps Aviation with Colonel Byron ā€œShrekā€ Sullivan

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EPISODE #105 – Marine Airpower, the Battle of Ramadi, and Flying the Beast: The F-35 and MV-22 Strap in and arm hot, folks—this one’s a burner. Welcome to Episode 105 of the Lessons from the Cockpit show! I’m your host Mark Hasara, retired KC-135 pilot, author of Tanker Pilot, and a lifelong aviation nut with over 60 years of airpower obsession. This week, I sit down with Colonel Byron ā€œShrekā€ Sullivan, a retired United States Marine Corps airpower warrior. And trust me—this is the kind of episode that makes your hair stand up. "Shrek" is a Marine’s Marine—combat leader,...

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Episode #106: Lessons from Marine Corps Aviation with Shrek Sullivan and Glibby Gillette show art Episode #106: Lessons from Marine Corps Aviation with Shrek Sullivan and Glibby Gillette

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šŸŽ§ Episode 106 – Rewriting the Rules of Marine Airpower Welcome back to Lessons from the Cockpit! I’m your host, retired Air Force Lt Col Mark ā€œSluggoā€ Hasara—KC-135 pilot, Joint Specialty Officer, and full-throttle aviation fanatic for over 60 years. In this episode, we finish a powerful two-part dive into Marine Corps aviation weapons, tactics, techniques, and procedures with my good friend Colonel Byron ā€œShrekā€ Sullivan. Shrek is a combat-proven pilot with time in both the F/A-18 Hornet and the F-35 Lightning II. And about halfway through the episode, we’re joined by the...

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Welcome to the thirty-fifth episode of the Lessons from the Cockpit podcast!

In the fifth part of our series on the Battle of Roberts Ridge we talk with Warrant Officer Al Mack, the pilot of the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment MH-47 Chinook callsign RAZOR 3 delivering SEAL Team MAKO 30 to the top of Takur Ghar mountain at 3:30 am Monday morning 4 March 2002. His Chinook comes under heavy fire from enemy forces and SEAL Neil Roberts falls off the back ramp, which begins the desperate search and rescue for him. Al goes into the small details of how this mission unfolded and the lessons learned from the Battle of Roberts Ridge. Numerous changes were made because Al wrote all of his lessons down!

There are several documentaries on the Battle of Roberts Ridge with Al Mack and other participants on YouTube. I suggest you watch these three videos on what happened on Takur Ghar here, here, and the CIA Predator UAV video of John Chapman's heroics here.

An article on the recovery of MH-47 Chinook RAZOR 3 called From a Great Height is a great read on how the Army recovered Al Mack's wounded helo from the valley his crew crash-landed in.

Two great articles on how a candidate becomes a 160th SOAR Night Stalker are found on the Office of the Command Historian webpage.

Support from the Lessons from the Cockpit podcast comes from Wall Pilot, aviation art for the walls of your home, office, or hanger. These very detailed images are printed on vinyl and can be peeled off and stuck to any flat surface or just framed.

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