BTI # 523: Let’s Talk About Sales with Sheley Brien
Release Date: 07/07/2023
When Cameras Become Evidence: Photography, Power, and the First Amendment
Beyond the Image Podcast
Two photographs. Seconds apart. And a much bigger story about photography, accountability, and the right to document power. In this episode of Beyond the Image, James Patrick examines the events surrounding photographers John Abernathy and Pierre Lavie, whose images captured the moment documentation itself became a threat. As Abernathy was taken down by ICE agents while photographing in public, he instinctively threw his camera to Lavie, preserving evidence that could have been confiscated or destroyed. The conversation expands to the killing of Alex Pretti in Minneapolis, an incident captured...
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15 Years Behind the Camera: Lessons That Built James Patrick Photography
Beyond the Image Podcast
Fifteen years ago, I walked away from a full-time career in marketing—complete with a steady paycheck, benefits, and a 401K—to pursue photography. There were no guarantees it would work, only a willingness to accept uncertainty and learn along the way. In this episode, I reflect on the lessons that have kept James Patrick Photography in business for 15 years. From starting out in Tucson to building a focused career in sports, fitness, and editorial photography, to relocating to Phoenix and opening The Hive Studios, this episode breaks down what actually creates sustainability in a creative...
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8 Posing Tips Every Photographer Needs to Confidently Direct Clients
Beyond the Image Podcast
Posing doesn’t have to feel awkward, forced, or inconsistent. In this episode, James Patrick breaks down 8 practical posing tips he’s used across more than 800 magazine covers to help photographers confidently direct real clients, not professional models. You’ll learn how to create structure at the start of a shoot, guide clients into flattering body angles, fix posture and hands, use props intentionally, and capture natural expressions that feel authentic and powerful. These are real, on-set cues and micro-adjustments you can start using immediately to improve your client experience and...
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How to Calculate Your Rates as a Photographer
Beyond the Image Podcast
Are your photography rates leaving you busy, booked, and broke? In this episode of Beyond the Image, James Patrick breaks down exactly how photographers can calculate sustainable rates that cover their cost of doing business, desired income, and all the hidden hours spent editing, marketing, and running their business. Learn step-by-step formulas to figure out your true hourly rate, price your shoots correctly, and turn every session into profit through usage, upsells, and add-on services. Whether you’re a portrait, commercial, editorial, or lifestyle photographer, this episode gives you...
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Why the Vanity Fair Portraits Made People Uncomfortable — and Why That Matters
Beyond the Image Podcast
The recent Vanity Fair portraits by Christopher Anderson sparked an unprecedented reaction across the creative world. Some called them powerful. Others called them “bad photos.” In this episode of Beyond the Image, James Patrick breaks down why that criticism reveals more about viewer expectations than photographic quality. From extreme close-ups and intentional lighting choices to the role of honesty, narrative, and authorship, this conversation explores what actually defines a successful photograph. We unpack why photography is a form of storytelling, why not every image is meant to...
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When Photographers Turn on Photographers
Beyond the Image Podcast
Photographers… this may shock you — but not everyone is going to like your work. And sometimes, the loudest critics are other photographers. In this episode of Beyond the Image, James Patrick breaks down why criticism from other creatives often has nothing to do with your talent and everything to do with ego, insecurity, and misplaced comparison. You’ll learn how to tell the difference between constructive feedback and noise, why other photographers don’t get to decide your value, and how to stay focused on what actually matters — creating work you’re proud of and serving the...
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Why Photographers Are Getting Pricing Wrong
Beyond the Image Podcast
In this episode of Beyond the Image, James Patrick takes a direct, professional look at one of the most polarizing conversations in the photography world: ethical pricing. After a viral post claimed that “$2,000 for 100 photos is unethical,” the industry erupted into yet another round of pricing debates, judgment, and misinformation. James breaks down why these arguments happen—and more importantly, why they’re built on a limited, inaccurate understanding of how photography pricing, usage, licensing, and value-based business models actually work. In this episode, you’ll learn: Why...
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When the Client Is the Problem: How Photographers Protect Themselves
Beyond the Image Podcast
In this episode of Beyond the Image, James Patrick dives into one of the biggest questions photographers asked after his viral video: “What do you do when the client is the difficult one?” After more than 20 years, hundreds of shoots, and more personalities than he can count, James breaks down the real root of “bad clients,” why a vague contract is more dangerous than a tough personality, and how to protect your work, your energy, and your business with clear boundaries. You’ll learn: • Why your contract is your #1 line of defense • What MUST be included in every scope and...
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Strategy No One Talks About Which Landed Me A Dream Job
Beyond the Image Podcast
In this episode, I break down exactly how I landed a dream project—not through luck, connections, or waiting to “get discovered,” but by creating the kind of work I wanted to be hired for. I share the full strategy behind building a spec portfolio, crafting content marketing around it, and ultimately generating a wave of viral visibility that positioned me as the go-to creator for that exact style of work. If you’ve ever felt stuck waiting for the “right” clients to find you, this is the blueprint for taking control of your opportunities and building demand around your passion. ...
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Biggest Portfolio Mistakes Photographers Make (and Why Your Portfolio Isn’t Enough)
Beyond the Image Podcast
Fresh off a portfolio review at a local college, I’m breaking down the biggest and most common mistakes photographers make when trying to showcase their work—and why these mistakes might be standing between you and your next client. In this episode, I cover: • Mistake #1: Overloading your portfolio with too many images • Mistake #2: Showcasing work you don’t actually want to shoot • Mistake #3: Not showing enough of the work you do want to be hired for And then we get into the biggest mistake of all: relying solely on your portfolio as your entire marketing strategy. Because in...
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Hosted by: James Patrick
We’re going to be talking about sales today. I love talking about sales, it seems to make so many of our listeners get a little bit uncomfortable, in a good way. Sales is something that can frustrate a lot of you or leave you feeling overwhelmed, not knowing what you need to do. Oftentime, many of us will try to go down these rabbit holes and figure out “how to sell without selling,” or create sales without having to build or nurture relationships.
But today, we are going to be talking about sales from a completely different perspective. Our amazing guest is Sheley Brien. She is a podcast host and a commercial general contractor business owner.
“Someone else’s opinion of us or metric of success, is irrelevant to you.”
IN THIS EPISODE
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The event that changed Sheley’s trajectory of her life.
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Changing the perspective on what success is.
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The most important thing you can ever do.
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Why investing in yourself matters.
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Scheduling appointments with yourself.
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Redefining what self care looks like.
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Setting a standard for yourself.
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Showing up with the right energy.
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Doing more of what works.
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Assessing results and how to do it effectively.
Connect with James
Website: jamespatrick.com
Instagram: @jpatrickphoto
Text me marketing questions @: 480-605-3254
Connect with Sheley
Instagram: @sheleybrien
LinkedIn: Sheley Brien
Podcast: The Business of Being Healthy
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