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184. AI, Attribution & Attention: Insights from IAB’s Angelina Eng | Programmatic Digest Podcast

Release Date: 09/10/2025

184. AI, Attribution & Attention: Insights from IAB’s Angelina Eng | Programmatic Digest Podcast

Programmatic Digest

In this episode of the Programmatic Digest, host Manuela Cortes sits down with Angelina Eng, Vice President at IAB, to unpack the evolving world of measurement, attribution, and attention in digital advertising. Angelina shares her deep expertise in helping reduce friction across the ad tech ecosystem and establishing industry best practices through IAB’s Measurement, Addressability, and Data Center. She breaks down the misconceptions around last-touch attribution, the importance of assisted attribution, and how weighting ad formats can better reflect their role in the funnel. We also...

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Programmatic Digest

Petri Kokkonen from Relevant Yield explains how his team helps publishers grow revenue through Demand Path Optimization (DPO), curation, and AI-driven decisioning.

182. How LATAM is Reimagining CTV with Alberto Grande from EXTE– Live Episode from Cannes Lions 2025

Programmatic Digest

In this special Cannes Lions edition of the Programmatic Digest Podcast (Español), host Manuela Cortes sits down with Alberto Grande, Regional Lead at EXTE, to explore the evolving media landscape in Latin America. Alberto shares how his team built a creative-first programmatic powerhouse from scratch, the growing impact of Connected TV (CTV) across LATAM, and how partnerships like LG are redefining attention metrics. They also dive into market-specific buying behavior, cultural preferences in ad formats, and the challenge of measuring outcomes beyond CTR. If you're curious about how CTV is...

181. How Programmatic Buyers Think About UGC with Andrew Super from Nextdoor - Live Episode from Cannes Lions 2025

Programmatic Digest

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180. From History Major to MadTech Leader: Heather Macaulay on Tech Stack Clarity, Connectivity, and Career Advice

Programmatic Digest

In this episode of the Programmatic Digest, we sit down with Heather Macaulay, President of MadTech, an AdTech consultancy transforming how teams approach data, integrations, and strategy. Heather shares her unexpected journey into ad tech—from Newbury Street project management to Pubmatic to founding MadTech—and the lessons she’s picked up along the way. We dive into what it really means to have a strong, scalable tech stack, the common mistakes advertisers make when choosing tools, and why platform connectivity is now mission-critical. Heather also breaks down how MadConnect,...

179. From Intern to Programmatic Media Director: Navigating Career Growth and Industry Insights with David Wiener

Programmatic Digest

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Programmatic Digest

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177. Programmatic Media Planning with a Data-First Mindset

Programmatic Digest

This is the second episode in a special 3-part series sponsored by Drako! Check out the YouTube Interview here: In this episode, I talk with Natalia Ruelas from Drako about her journey from studying marketing in Canada to becoming an account manager in programmatic advertising. She shares how important it is to research and measure everything to help campaigns perform better. We discuss why small teams and good communication matter in this complex ad world. We also dive into campaign optimization. Natalia explains why it’s not enough to have a plan, you need SMEs that can...

176. Choosing The Right Data Partner In The Crowded Programmatic Market

Programmatic Digest

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175.5. Programmatic Hands-On Keyboard Training (June Specials)

Programmatic Digest

What it is: A 4-week live accelerator for programmatic traders and ad ops pros who want to level up fast inside the DSP, using real campaigns and walkthroughs. Who it's for: Junior traders who want hands-on experience Client service or ad ops pros managing campaigns In-house marketers pivoting to programmatic Traditional Media Buyer What they’ll get: Weekly live DSP walkthroughs (recorded if they miss it) Campaign optimization using real examples (Bring your own or use our case studies) Slack channel access for Q&A and peer support Hélène’s personal feedback on one campaign...

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Angelina shares her deep expertise in helping reduce friction across the ad tech ecosystem and establishing industry best practices through IAB’s Measurement, Addressability, and Data Center. She breaks down the misconceptions around last-touch attribution, the importance of assisted attribution, and how weighting ad formats can better reflect their role in the funnel.

We also explore the challenges and opportunities in publisher–buyer collaboration, the adoption of conversion API standards, and why standard taxonomies are critical for interoperability. Angelina offers practical steps for media buyers and publishers looking to elevate transparency, data harmonization, and campaign effectiveness.

The conversation also dives into the future of attention metrics, how they’re being defined and measured, and whether they can become a standard KPI. Finally, Angelina shares her thoughts on how AI is reshaping the ad tech stack—from operations to optimization—while emphasizing the need for compliance, minimizing bias, and balancing human oversight.

Plus, we get to know Angelina beyond her work, including her love for the outdoors, salsa dancing, and family life.

If you’ve ever struggled with attribution models, measurement frameworks, or attention debates, this episode is packed with clarity and forward-looking insights.

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Timestamps

00:00 – Welcome & Guest Intro
01:43 – Attribution Misconceptions Explained
05:26 – Assisted Attribution & Weighted Assets
08:26 – Conversion APIs & Publisher Collaboration
11:12 – Attention Metrics: Hype vs Reality
18:26 – Standardization & IAB’s Role in Data Alignment
26:05 – How AI is Reshaping Ad Tech
30:53 – Fun Facts with Angelina Eng

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Angelina Eng, IAB

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Manuela Cortes - Co-Host

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