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3564: Why Banking Is the Ultimate Test for Responsible AI

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Release Date: 01/23/2026

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If artificial intelligence is meant to earn trust anywhere, should banking be the place where it proves itself first? In this episode of Tech Talks Daily, I’m joined by Ravi Nemalikanti, Chief Product and Technology Officer at Abrigo, for a grounded conversation about what responsible AI actually looks like when the consequences are real. Abrigo works with more than 2,500 banks and credit unions across the United States, many of them community institutions where every decision affects local businesses, families, and entire regional economies. That reality makes this discussion feel...

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If artificial intelligence is meant to earn trust anywhere, should banking be the place where it proves itself first?

In this episode of Tech Talks Daily, I’m joined by Ravi Nemalikanti, Chief Product and Technology Officer at Abrigo, for a grounded conversation about what responsible AI actually looks like when the consequences are real.

Abrigo works with more than 2,500 banks and credit unions across the United States, many of them community institutions where every decision affects local businesses, families, and entire regional economies. That reality makes this discussion feel refreshingly practical rather than theoretical.

We talk about why financial services has become one of the toughest proving grounds for AI, and why that is a good thing. Ravi explains why concepts like transparency, explainability, and auditability are not optional add-ons in banking, but table stakes. From fraud detection and lending decisions to compliance and portfolio risk, every model has to stand up to regulatory, ethical, and operational scrutiny. A false positive or an opaque decision is not just a technical issue, it can damage trust, disrupt livelihoods, and undermine confidence in an institution.

A big focus of the conversation is how AI assistants are already changing day-to-day banking work, largely behind the scenes. Rather than flashy chatbots, Ravi describes assistants embedded directly into lending, anti-money laundering, and compliance workflows. These systems summarize complex documents, surface anomalies, and create consistent narratives that free human experts to focus on judgment, context, and relationships. What surprised me most was how often customers value consistency and clarity over raw speed or automation.

We also explore what other industries can learn from community banks, particularly their modular, measured approach to adoption. With limited budgets and decades-old core systems, these institutions innovate cautiously, prioritizing low-risk, high-return use cases and strong governance from day one. Ravi shares why explainable AI must speak the language of bankers and regulators, not data scientists, and why showing the “why” behind a decision is essential to keeping humans firmly in control.

As we look toward 2026 and beyond, the conversation turns to where AI can genuinely support better outcomes in lending and credit risk without sidelining human judgment. Ravi is clear that fully autonomous decisioning still has a long way to go in high-stakes environments, and that the future is far more about partnership than replacement. AI can surface patterns, speed up insight, and flag risks early, but people remain essential for context, empathy, and final accountability.

If you’re trying to cut through the AI noise and understand how trust, governance, and real-world impact intersect, this episode offers a rare look at how responsible AI is actually being built and deployed today. And once you’ve listened, I’d love to hear your perspective. Where do you see AI earning trust, and where does it still have something to prove?