Ep. 108: Non-Ordinary States: Ketamine-Assisted Therapy, Trauma, and the Healing Power of Connection | Rob Steffke
Release Date: 06/15/2026
Ep. 108: Non-Ordinary States: Ketamine-Assisted Therapy, Trauma, and the Healing Power of Connection | Rob Steffke
Resilience Radio
Episode Description In this episode of Resilience Radio, Irvin Eisenberg and Rob Steffke explore ketamine-assisted therapy, trauma, non-ordinary states of consciousness, and the healing power of relationship and connection. This conversation looks at how ketamine may support therapeutic work, why “set and setting” matter, and why the medicine itself is only one part of the process. Key topics include: ✅ What makes ketamine-assisted therapy different from recreational ketamine use ✅ Set and setting, intentionality, and the role of the therapeutic relationship ✅ Trauma, depression, the...
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In this episode of Resilience Radio, Irvin Eisenberg and Rob Steffke explore ketamine-assisted therapy, trauma, non-ordinary states of consciousness, and the healing power of relationship and connection. This conversation looks at how ketamine may support therapeutic work, why “set and setting” matter, and why the medicine itself is only one part of the process.
Key topics include:
✅ What makes ketamine-assisted therapy different from recreational ketamine use
✅ Set and setting, intentionality, and the role of the therapeutic relationship
✅ Trauma, depression, the observer mindset, and non-ordinary states of consciousness
✅ Why integration before and after a session may be as important as the session itself
✅ The importance of not having to move through difficult experiences alone
✅ The limits of one-on-one therapy and the need for broader community support
✅ Practical considerations, including readiness, collaboration with an existing therapist, insurance, and cost
Rob Steffke, MA, LMFT is a psychotherapist whose work includes training therapists, ketamine-assisted therapy, body-oriented approaches, and an interest in how non-ordinary states of consciousness can support healing and personal change.
Rob Steffke:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/rob-steffke-nevada-city-ca/269308
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Music Credit:
“Some Biological Process” by Aaron Marcus
https://aaronmarcus.bandcamp.com/track/finlays-menopausal-fridge-some-biological-process
SHORT EPISODE SUMMARY
Rob Steffke joins Irvin Eisenberg to discuss ketamine-assisted therapy, trauma, non-ordinary states of consciousness, and why healing often depends on relationship, preparation, integration, and the experience of not being alone.