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Author Bree Groff on Finding Joy at Work

Blue Sky

Release Date: 10/22/2025

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Losing her mom to cancer reminded Bree that life is fleeting Working as a consultant, she also saw how many people are miserable in their jobs Connecting these dots, she decided to help people find more joy and meaning in their work and rather than count the days to the weekend, turn things around and actually look forward to getting to work, perhaps even embrace a “TGIM” mentality In her book, Today Was Fun: A Book About Work (Seriously) she gives numerous examples of way we can find more joy from our work and our colleagues and encourages employers that creating a fun-filled workplace can improve an organization’s performance and bottom line. 

 

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00:00 Work Should Be Fun 
Bree Groff, author of Today Was Fun: A Book About Work (Seriously) shares how her mother, a kindergarten teacher, inspired her to believe that work can be enjoyable. After experiencing consulting and witnessing widespread job dissatisfaction, Bree realized that many people are not having fun at work. 

03:59 A New Perspective on Work 
Bree’s perspective on work drastically changed after her mother’s terminal cancer diagnosis, leading her to question why people wish away their workdays. She advocates for a “middle way” where work is a pleasant way to spend time, not just a means to a paycheck or an all-consuming passion. 

10:56 Fun Boosts Productivity 
Bree argues that fun at work increases productivity and employee engagement, citing research from Gallup. She challenges the traditional notion that work cannot be fun and explores how elements like comfortable dress codes can enhance well-being and authenticity. 

17:29 Embracing Authenticity in Work 
Bree uses the example of a heart surgeon listening to ‘Napoleon Dynamite’ during operations to illustrate that even serious work can benefit from a relaxed and authentic environment. She emphasizes the importance of treating our brains like athletes by prioritizing sleep, comfort, and mental health. 

21:43 Micro Mischief and Generosity 
Bree suggests ‘micro mischiefs’ for employees to subtly challenge restrictive workplace norms and encourages leaders to assume the best in their teams. She advocates for a cycle of generosity, where leaders support their employees’ well-being, leading to increased commitment and better work. 

29:01 Humanizing the Virtual Workplace 
Bree discusses the benefits of remote work in humanizing colleagues, as shared glimpses into personal lives foster empathy and stronger relationships. She highlights how moments like the BBC interview interruption showcased the human side of professionals, breaking down traditional barriers. 

33:11 Future of Joy at Work 
Bree emphasizes that physical distance doesn’t mean emotional distance in virtual work and suggests structured check-ins to maintain human connection. She notes a positive shift, especially among younger generations, towards valuing mental health and work-life boundaries, which aligns with her vision for joyful workplaces. 

41:48 Reflections and Closing 
Bill Burke reflects on the work-from-home versus in-office debate, acknowledging both the benefits of in-person interaction and the strong arguments for virtual work. He expresses appreciation for Bree Groff’s insights and her book, encouraging listeners to engage with the podcast and the Optimism Institute.