224: Creating Real Impact Through Passive Real Estate Investing with Nate Shields and Troy Zimmerman
Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing
Release Date: 03/13/2025
Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing
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info_outlineBetting on yourself first is often the key to creating a real impact on your real estate investing journey.
On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan welcomes guests Nate Shields and Troy Zimmerman from Missional Capital Group. Missional Capital Group is a real estate investment company that believes financial success should be driven by purpose and ethical principles. Nate and Troy’s journey began with a simple yet powerful vision to create a platform that aligns financial prosperity with social responsibility.
Jonathan, Nate, and Troy start their discussion by delving into Troy and Nate’s introductions to real estate. You’ll hear how they met, the block Troy had as a financial advisor, how Nate and Troy overcame it to form Missional Capital Group, and why relationships are important to real estate transactions. Nate and Troy explain the importance of betting on yourself first, having income streams outside of syndication investments, and how they decided syndications are a good investment using the strategies they developed for investing. Finally, Nate and Troy share how they chose their market in Alabama, their primary source for finding off-market deals, the benefits of holding a real estate license as an investor, and how meetups can be a great way to connect to other investors.
Syndications can create the impactful passive real estate investing many investors are seeking. Nate Shields and Troy Zimmerman outline what you need to know about this investing vehicle.
In this episode, you will hear:
- Troy Zimmerman’s initial interest in real estate through his family members
- Nate Shields’s introduction to real estate in his early 20s after reading “Rich Dad Poor Dad” and “Rich Dad’s CASHFLOW Quadrant”
- How Troy and Nate met and began working together, and the impact market shifts have had on their business model over the years
- The block Troy had as a financial advisor to form Missional Capital Group with Nate
- Relationships and why they matter so much in real estate transactions
- Betting on yourself first and the importance of having income streams outside of syndication investments
- Deciding to begin investing in syndications and how Troy and Nate’s strategy gave them confidence
- Investing in Alabama and their fortune in finding that particular market
- Troy and Nate’s leading source for finding off-market deals
- Opportunities for seller financing and what makes it harder to implement than most other strategies
- The benefits of holding a real estate license as an investor
- Nate and Troy’s current buy box and the importance of a trusted property manager
- Meetups as a way to get connected to other investors and their advice for new investors
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