Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing
What if you could learn from experienced real estate investors, find out what got them to where they are now, get insight into their daily habits, and take these insights to inspire your own growth? That’s what each episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing brings. Hosted by Jonathan Greene, a real estate investor for more than 30 years, as well as advisor and coach, the founder of Streamlined Properties and the Team Leader of Streamlined Properties, brokered by Real, every episode is an in-depth look at the mindful approach to real estate investing. If you are looking to start from scratch, get to the next level, or just for a straightforward and honest approach to real estate investing, Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing is the free mentorship program you can take with you anywhere.
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248: Beating the Drum to the REIT Beat with David Auerbach
06/05/2025
248: Beating the Drum to the REIT Beat with David Auerbach
In this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan welcomes REIT industry veteran David Auerbach, Chief Investment Officer at Hoya Capital and publisher of The Daily REITBeat Newsletter. David shares his 25-year journey in the world of real estate investment trusts (REITs), helping listeners understand how REITs work, how they fit into a balanced portfolio, and why they’re a powerful option for long-term, income-focused investing. They break down the differences between public and private REITs, explain why REITs can be a great entry point for investors seeking exposure to commercial real estate, and discuss how dividend income plays a central role in REIT performance. David also explains how REITs provide accessibility, transparency, and liquidity that most traditional real estate investments can’t. In this episode, you will hear: How REITs offer an accessible, flexible way to gain exposure to real estate The importance of dividend income and holding long-term for compounding returns Ways to evaluate REITs based on asset type, such as multifamily, industrial, or senior housing What sets public REITs apart in terms of liquidity, reporting, and transparency REITs give access to diversified commercial real estate without requiring large amounts of capital or property management. Long-term investing in REITs is more effective than chasing short-term gains. Factors like interest rates and treasury yields that influence REIT performance Smart portfolio positioning strategies that include REITs alongside stocks and bonds Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Supporting Resources: Hoya Capital website - Hoya Capital’s YouTube channel - Connect with David Auerbachon LinkedIn - Daily REITBeat on X - The Daily REITBeat Newsletter - Website - YouTube - Instagram - Instagram - TikTok - Zillow - Bigger Pockets - Facebook - Email - Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at Let them know we sent you.
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247: Going From Investor To Investor-Friendly Agent with Niyi Adewole
06/02/2025
247: Going From Investor To Investor-Friendly Agent with Niyi Adewole
In this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan sits down with Niyi Adewole—real estate investor, short-term rental operator, and investor-friendly agent—to discuss the journey from first house hack to a thriving real estate business. Niyi shares how he transitioned from medical device sales to building a 30-unit portfolio in Louisville, Kentucky, before shifting into short-term rental management, new development, and becoming a trusted guide for other investors through his real estate team and podcast. Jonathan and Niyi explore the realities of house hacking, the importance of building systems, and why consistency and a long-term outlook matter more than chasing quick wins. Niyi offers advice for new investors, from how to get started in a high-interest-rate environment to what to look for in a truly investor-friendly agent. In this episode, you will hear: What led Niyi to house hacking, and how it helped him build early momentum Lessons learned from managing rentals, handling evictions, and scaling with systems How a move to Atlanta sparked a shift into full-time real estate entrepreneurship Tips for investors navigating short-term and mid-term rental strategies How to vet property managers and protect your cash flow The difference between a real estate agent who says they work with investors and one who actually does Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Supporting Resources: Ekabo Home website - Ekabo Home on YouTube - Ekabo Home’s Facebook page - Ekabo Home on Instagram - Connect with Niyi Adewole on LinkedIn - Ekabo Home on TikTok - Website - YouTube - Instagram - Instagram - TikTok - Zillow - Bigger Pockets - Facebook - Email - Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at Let them know we sent you.
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246: Multifamily Success Through Transparency and Rigorous Due Diligence with Gary Lipsky
05/29/2025
246: Multifamily Success Through Transparency and Rigorous Due Diligence with Gary Lipsky
In this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan is joined by Gary Lipsky, founder of Break of Day Capital, to explore what it takes to succeed in multifamily real estate syndication. Gary shares how he went from buying his first fixer-upper in Los Angeles to managing over 3,200 apartment units across Arizona. With an emphasis on transparency, due diligence, and investor education, Gary discusses how his firm evaluates markets, selects value-add properties, and builds long-term relationships with investors. They dive deep into the differences between Class A and B assets, what makes a market like Tucson attractive for syndicators, and how Gary’s entrepreneurial background helped him scale while staying focused. The conversation also covers how passive investors should evaluate operators, what strong communication looks like, and why a conservative, consistent approach beats chasing the highest returns. In this episode, you will hear: What drew Gary to the Tucson market, and how he evaluates its long-term potential Key indicators he looks for when assessing Class B value-add properties Traits of trustworthy syndicators and how passive investors can vet them effectively The role of conservative underwriting in building a sustainable investment strategy How consistent execution and strong communication help operators earn investor confidence Ways to educate potential investors without overselling or overpromising Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Supporting Resources: Break of Day Capital website - Break of Day Capital on YouTube - Break of Day Capital’s Facebook - Gary Lipsky on Instagram - Connect with Gary Lipsky on LinkedIn - Website - YouTube - Instagram - Instagram - TikTok - Zillow - Bigger Pockets - Facebook - Email - Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at Let them know we sent you.
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245: How Alternative Assets Can Create Passive Investing Mastery with Patrick Grimes
05/26/2025
245: How Alternative Assets Can Create Passive Investing Mastery with Patrick Grimes
In this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan welcomes Patrick Grimes, founder of Passive Investing Mastery and Invest on Main Street. Patrick shares how a painful first deal during the 2008 crash reshaped his investing mindset, leading him to focus on long-term wealth accumulation, cash flow, and true portfolio diversification. What began with single-family rentals eventually expanded into large multifamily syndications, recession-resilient markets, and alternative assets, including litigation finance and debt funds. Patrick walks listeners through how he helps investors build a balanced portfolio by spreading risk across multiple, non-correlated asset classes. He also highlights why active professionals don’t need to become landlords to grow wealth, and how the right mix of passive investments can lead to financial security and freedom. If you want to diversify beyond traditional real estate while keeping property in your portfolio, this episode is packed with practical strategies and new perspectives. In this episode, you will hear: The early investment mistake that shaped Patrick’s long-term approach to wealth building What makes multifamily syndications a powerful tool for scalable, passive income Where litigation finance fits into a diversified real estate investment portfolio Ways debt funds provide stable returns outside of traditional equity deals Differences between passive and active investing for busy professionals The role of education and networking in avoiding common investor pitfalls Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Supporting Resources: Passive Investing Mastery website - Passive Investing Mastery on Facebook - Connect with Patrick Grimes on LinkedIn - Invest on Main Street website - Website - YouTube - Instagram - Instagram - TikTok - Zillow - Bigger Pockets - Facebook - Email - Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at Let them know we sent you.
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244: Unlocking the Strategy of Rentals Made Easy with Jessie Lang
05/22/2025
244: Unlocking the Strategy of Rentals Made Easy with Jessie Lang
In this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan sits down with Jessie Lang, founder of Unlocked Rentals and author of “Rentals Made Easy,” to explore her journey from a $92,000 condo to a self-managed 70+ unit portfolio. Jessie shares how she unknowingly began house hacking out of necessity, transitioned into full-time investing, and eventually found her stride using the BRRRR method and private money. From Craigslist roommates and DIY renovations to managing properties remotely and building a team, Jessie reveals how she scaled her business without skipping the hard work. She discusses the power of meetups, mentorship, and trusting your instincts, especially when the traditional path doesn’t fit. Jessie also talks about her mastermind community, the launch of her new book, and why she still prefers single-family rentals over multifamily deals. This episode is a must-listen for investors looking to grow with intention, learn how to self-manage successfully, and avoid common pitfalls on the way to financial freedom. In this episode, you will hear: How Jessie Lang went from living with roommates to profiting from rentals before she saw herself as an investor Why house hacking and the BRRRR method became her foundation for growth The turning point that led her to leave her W-2 and go all in on real estate The benefits of single-family rentals, tenant retention, and pet-friendly properties How she self-manages remotely, builds systems, and trains her team What inspired her to launch a mastermind and write “Rentals Made Easy” Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Supporting Resources: Website - YouTube - Instagram - Instagram - TikTok - Zillow - Bigger Pockets - Facebook - Email - Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at Let them know we sent you.
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243: Transforming Underutilized Properties Into High-Performing Assets with Jonah Bamberger
05/19/2025
243: Transforming Underutilized Properties Into High-Performing Assets with Jonah Bamberger
In this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan sits down with Jonah Bamberger, managing partner and executive chairman of Aulder Capital. Jonah shares the full arc of his real estate journey—from early value-add deals in Brooklyn to large-scale multifamily, hospitality, and international development in Portugal. What began as a side project with a friend quickly became a full-time business as the duo capitalized on post-2008 opportunities. Jonah dives into how Aulder Capital adapts to shifting markets, navigates regulatory hurdles, and chooses when to pivot between markets, asset classes, and hold periods. He also talks about the realities of managing thousands of units, dealing with difficult tenants, and maintaining high performance while still aiming to make a positive community impact. Whether you're an active investor, passive LP, or someone exploring international real estate, this episode offers a real-world perspective on how to scale with discipline and intention. In this episode, you will hear: How Jonah got started in Brooklyn with rent-stabilized, value-add multifamily deals Why Aulder Capital expanded from New York to the Southeast, Midwest, and even Portugal The pros and cons of holding vs. flipping, and how market conditions drive those decisions What it really takes to manage thousands of units and stay mission-focused How syndications allow newer investors to get exposure without the management stress Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Supporting Resources: Aulder Capital website - Aulder Capital on YouTube - Find Aulder Capital on Instagram - Connect with Aulder Capital on LinkedIn - Website - YouTube - Instagram - Instagram - TikTok - Zillow - Bigger Pockets - Facebook - Email - Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at Let them know we sent you.
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242: Finding Solutions For Your 1031 Exchange Without the Hassle of Management with Ben Carmona
05/15/2025
242: Finding Solutions For Your 1031 Exchange Without the Hassle of Management with Ben Carmona
In this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan welcomes Ben Carmona, Managing Partner at Perch Wealth, to break down the mechanics and opportunities of the 1031 exchange. With over two decades of experience, Ben clarifies a complex process that can intimidate even seasoned investors. He shares how real estate owners, especially those nearing retirement, can defer taxes, move into passive income streams, and preserve wealth through tools like the Delaware Statutory Trust (DST). Jonathan and Ben cover everything from early planning to misconceptions about like-kind exchanges. They also explore how investors can use 1031s to scale smarter, reduce active management headaches, and take advantage of private equity-style syndications. Whether you're a baby boomer ready to slow down or a younger investor exploring long-term tax strategy, this episode will help you see 1031s and DSTs in a whole new light. In this episode, you will hear: What a 1031 exchange is and how it helps defer taxes How Delaware Statutory Trusts (DSTs) enable passive investing with 1031 proceeds The importance of early planning and working with real estate-focused advisors How to avoid common mistakes like mishandling funds or missing deadlines Why syndications and diversification matter for today’s investors Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Supporting Resources: Perch Wealth website - Perch Wealth on Youtube - Find Perch Wealth on Facebook - Perch Wealth’s Instagram - Connect with Perch Wealth on Linkedin - Perch Wealth on X - Website - YouTube - Instagram - Instagram - TikTok - Zillow - Bigger Pockets - Facebook - Email - Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at Let them know we sent you.
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241: Creating Life On Your Terms Through Real Estate Investing with Laura Navaquin
05/12/2025
241: Creating Life On Your Terms Through Real Estate Investing with Laura Navaquin
In this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan welcomes Laura Navaquin—a mother, entrepreneur, and real estate investor who built her portfolio from the ground up alongside her husband. Starting with a credit card-funded mentorship and no prior experience, Laura began wholesaling in New Jersey and eventually scaled their portfolio to over 20 doors across six states. Laura shares her evolution from side hustler to full-time investor, revealing how consistency, networking, and creative financing became the pillars of their growth. She breaks down the realities of managing a diverse real estate portfolio, the learning curve of self-management, and the challenges of rapid expansion. Laura also opens up about her shift in priorities—from corporate success to financial freedom and time with family—and how her mindset helped her embrace uncertainty. Whether you're just starting or looking to scale your investments, this episode offers a real-world look at how strategic action and steady effort can build something meaningful over time. In this episode, you will hear: Wholesaling can be a great entry point, but it takes hustle and realistic expectations Investing in mentorship is really an investment in yourself Scaling quickly is exciting, but evaluating portfolio performance is essential for long-term success Creative financing and networking for unlocking deals that traditional methods can't Defining your version of success and staying consistent Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Supporting Resources: Laura Navaquin’s website - Find Laura on Instagram - Connect with Laura on LinkedIn - Website - YouTube - Instagram - Instagram - TikTok - Zillow - Bigger Pockets - Facebook - Email - Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at Let them know we sent you.
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240: Investing In Historically Recession Resistant Real Estate Assets with Paul Moore
05/08/2025
240: Investing In Historically Recession Resistant Real Estate Assets with Paul Moore
In this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan sits down with Paul Moore, Founder and Managing Partner of Wellings Capital, a private equity firm specializing in recession-resistant real estate investments. With a rich background in entrepreneurship and investing, Paul shares his evolution from speculative investor to a disciplined advocate of Warren Buffett's principles, emphasizing the power of saying “no” and prioritizing long-term, stable investments. The conversation explores the importance of rigorous due diligence, operator selection, and maintaining a conservative investment strategy. Paul explains how Wellings Capital evaluates hundreds of deals to handpick only the most viable ones, ensuring a high margin of safety for investors. He also dives into undervalued asset classes such as self-storage and mobile home parks, highlighting their growing demand and often misunderstood reputation. You’ll gain insight into the mechanics of private equity investing, including how Wellings structures its diversified funds, the role of trust and relationship-building with operators, and the social impact of responsible investing. Paul also shares his firm’s commitment to combating human trafficking through philanthropic efforts. This episode is a must-listen for high-earning professionals looking to deploy capital wisely and anyone seeking a mindful, value-driven approach to real estate. In this episode, you will hear: The best investors say “no” to most deals The importance of discipline Mobile home parks and self-storage offer stable, recession-resistant returns Due diligence should be multi-layered and uncompromising Investing with integrity can align with creating social impact Diversified private equity funds offer reduced risk and access to top-tier operators Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Supporting Resources: Wellings Capital website - Wellings Capital on Facebook - Paul Moore’s Instagram - Connect with Paul Moore on LinkedIn - Paul Moore on X - Wellings Capital on LinkedIn - Website - YouTube - Instagram - Instagram - TikTok - Zillow - Bigger Pockets - Facebook - Email - Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at Let them know we sent you.
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239: Why Mobile Home Parks Are America's Most Stable Real Estate with Jack Martin
05/05/2025
239: Why Mobile Home Parks Are America's Most Stable Real Estate with Jack Martin
In the real estate world, mobile home parks aren’t viewed as a glamorous asset class, but today’s guest explains why you should give this asset class a second look. On today’s episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan interviews Jack Martin, co-founder of 52TEN. Jack began his real estate career in Arizona, where he sourced off-market properties and acquired and sold over 2,000 single-family homes, as well as more than 900 apartment units. In 2016, Jack entered the mobile home park business. Since then, he’s acquired 1,500 mobile home park lots. Jonathan and Jack start their conversation with Jack’s introduction to real estate investing through Carleton Sheets as an 18-year-old in the military. Jack outlines the misconceptions about mobile homes and parks, what drew him to parks versus single mobile homes, and the two things that excited him about mobile homes over other asset classes. Jack explains why amenities appeal to mobile home park residents, who those amenities attract, how he chooses a geographic location for investment, and the importance of vertically integrating property management into a mobile home park strategy. As their discussion winds down, Jack shares how implementing technology can simplify management, the tax benefits associated with mobile home parks, and what to look for in a park when vetting the investment. Real estate investors may be sleeping on the opportunities mobile home parks offer, and Jack Martin outlines exactly why this asset class deserves a second look. In this episode, you will hear: Jack Martin’s introduction to real estate through Carleton Sheets at 18 years old in the military Misconceptions surrounding mobile homes and mobile home parks Why Jack began buying mobile home parks versus single mobile homes The two things that excited him about buying mobile homes versus other asset classes The most expensive event that occurs for investors with rental property Creating amenities that appeal to residents and the type of residents they attract Choosing an appropriate geographic location with net population growth The importance of management and vertically integrating it into your strategy Implementing technology in managing mobile home parks to simplify How Jack educates others on this asset class and the tax benefits that come with it What to look for when you’re vetting a mobile home park investment Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Supporting Resources: 52TEN website - 52TEN on YouTube - Find 52TEN on Facebook - 52TEN’s Instagram - Follow 52TEN on LinkedIn - Website - YouTube - Instagram - Instagram - TikTok - Zillow - Bigger Pockets - Facebook - Email - Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at Let them know we sent you.
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238: Why Underwriting and Communication Are Key To Local Home Buying with Wendell Butler
05/01/2025
238: Why Underwriting and Communication Are Key To Local Home Buying with Wendell Butler
If you’re new to real estate investing, understanding underwriting and being a good communicator can be the key to opening the door for great deals. On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan welcomes Wendell Butler, president and founder of Hammerhead Capital. Wendell is an experienced real estate investor, former military officer, and entrepreneur with a background in loan origination. Wendell’s real estate portfolio consists of properties in Massachusetts, North Carolina, and South Carolina, and now he’s helping other real estate investors expand their portfolios. Jonathan and Wendell begin their conversation with Wendell’s decision to pursue real estate as a post-military career. He shares the benefits of leveraging VA loans, his first investment property, and what sets Wendell apart from other investors when it comes to borrowing money. You’ll hear the two things you need before asking friends or family for deal money, how he continued a growth trajectory in Charlotte, North Carolina, after leaving New England, and the importance of solving a seller’s problem rather than focusing on price. Finally, Jonathan and Wendell discuss how to stand out to sellers with honesty, how Wendell is coaching others to do the same, and the biggest mistakes new wholesalers often make. Wendell Butler has built his reputation on honesty and effective communication, and he continues to grow his business by leveraging these fundamental principles. In this episode, you will hear: How Wendell Butler chose real estate as his next step following his military career The benefits of leveraging VA loans and Wendell’s first property investment with a house hack The moment Wendell decided he was going to pursue real estate investing full-time What sets him apart from other investors when it comes to borrowing money Two things you need before you ask friends and family for deal money, and why they’re the easiest place to find money Continuing a trajectory of growth with fix-and-flips in Charlotte versus the multifamily market in New England The importance of solving a seller’s problem versus money or price Standing out to sellers with honesty How Wendell coaches new investors to do what he’s doing The biggest mistakes new wholesalers make Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Supporting Resources: Hammerhead Capital - Hammerhead Capital on Facebook - Wendell Butler’s Instagram - Connect with Wendell on LinkedIn - The Real Estate Take podcast - Hammerhead Capital on Instagram - Website - YouTube - Instagram - Instagram - TikTok - Zillow - Bigger Pockets - Facebook - Email - Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at Let them know we sent you.
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237: How To Succeed as an Investor and a Real Estate Agent with Mike Cossette
04/28/2025
237: How To Succeed as an Investor and a Real Estate Agent with Mike Cossette
In this episode, Jonathan welcomes Mike Cossette, a seasoned real estate broker and investor based in Austin, Texas. Mike brings over 20 years of expertise in residential and commercial real estate, specializing in luxury homes, multifamily units, short-term rentals, small commercial properties, and portfolio growth strategies. Gain invaluable insights into why obtaining a real estate license can be a significant advantage for investors, highlighting benefits such as commission savings, direct property access, and essential contract knowledge. Mike shares his personal journey of becoming an investor first during his college days through strategic property investments, including a memorable fraternity house that served as a powerful introduction to real estate profitability. Jonathan and Mike delve into market timing versus market longevity, emphasizing the critical need for investors to continually adapt strategies to evolving market conditions. They discuss the opportunities currently available in smaller multifamily properties and why now could be the perfect time for such investments, especially considering seller financing options. In this episode, you will hear: How obtaining a real estate license is highly beneficial for property investors. Mike’s journey from first property investment to becoming a real estate agent The importance of adaptability in changing market conditions. Insights on Airbnb’s early growth and house hacking strategies Strategic benefits of investing in small multifamily properties How creative investment opportunities can offer both high risks and rewards. How relationships are foundational to sustained success in real estate investing. Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Supporting Resources: Website - Youtube - Facebook - Instagram - LinkedIn - Twitter - TikTok - Website - YouTube - Instagram - Instagram - TikTok - Zillow - Bigger Pockets - Facebook - Email - Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at Let them know we sent you.
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236: How To Find and Build Your Passive Investing Tribe with Jim Pfeifer
04/24/2025
236: How To Find and Build Your Passive Investing Tribe with Jim Pfeifer
If you don’t want the hassle of becoming a landlord, passive investing could be your entry into real estate investing. On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan welcomes Jim Pfeifer, the former founder, president, and CEO of Left Field Investors, which is now PassivePockets. Jim is also the co-host of the PassivePockets podcast and a long-time investor in syndications as a limited partner. Jonathan and Jim start their discussion by outlining the story of Left Field Investors and Passive Pockets. Jim explains what drew him to passive investing versus active investing, the importance of vetting operators, and the downsides of becoming a landlord. You’ll hear why you have to recognize that your investments are illiquid, where Jim places money outside of real estate investing, and the necessity of hiring experts to help you make the most of your money. Finally, Jim explains why he prefers personal recommendations over cold leads, the importance of doing your due diligence, and how PassivePockets helps investors vet syndicators. Jim Pfeifer has a long track record in syndication investing, and if you’re interested in this asset class, don’t miss his words of wisdom for finding the right investment. In this episode, you will hear: The inception of Left Field Investors and how that led to the creation of PassivePockets What drew Jim Pfeifer to passive investing versus more active investing The importance of vetting operators in syndications and why it’s the key skill in passive investing Downsides of becoming a landlord Adjusting to the longer cycles in syndications as a limited partner and realizing your investments are illiquid One of the biggest mistakes Jim made as he began investing in syndications, and where he places money outside of real estate Using 1031 exchanges in syndications and finding experts who can help you make the most of your money Why personal recommendations from the investing community are always better than cold leads The perfect candidates for passive investing Funds versus one-off investing and the importance of due diligence How Jim vets syndicators and what PassivePockets does Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Supporting Resources: PassivePockets website - PassivePockets on YouTube - Find PassivePockets on LinkedIn - Connect with Jim Pfeifer on LinkedIn - Website - YouTube - Instagram - Instagram - TikTok - Zillow - Bigger Pockets - Facebook - Email - Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at Let them know we sent you.
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235: Unlocking Value With Carefully Chosen Multifamily Real Estate with Mike Madsen
04/21/2025
235: Unlocking Value With Carefully Chosen Multifamily Real Estate with Mike Madsen
Multifamily is an asset class that shows no signs of slowing down, but carefully choosing where to place that money can ensure your investment is worthwhile. On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan interviews Mike Madsen, Vice President of Acquisitions and Economics at RealSource Residential. RealSource is focused on long-term and sustainable growth and has a multifamily track record with more than $1 billion in cumulative investments and 6,300 renovated apartments. Jonathan and Mike begin their discussion by exploring what makes multifamily a great investment and Mike’s market outlook for housing and multifamily. You’ll hear about the pent-up demand for housing, how it will continue to impact rents, and the factors Mike uses to determine where to invest. He also shares his family history in real estate investing, the best markets to move to right now, and Mike’s preference for value-add properties. Mike explains how you can mitigate risk in multifamily, where the operational sweet spot is, and what markets he has his eye on right now. He reveals the metrics he uses to evaluate a value-add property, the amenities tenants are looking for in this market, and how RealSource Residential helps investors discover their next investment. Multifamily continues to be a hot topic in real estate investing, and Mike Madsen outlines his tips for ensuring you make a sound investment. In this episode, you will hear: Why multifamily is always an excellent investment Mike Madsen’s market outlook for housing and multifamily opportunities The pent-up demand for housing and how it’s going to continue to impact rents Factors Mike uses to determine where to invest His family history in real estate investing and how Mike started his own journey The best markets to move to right now, based on his evaluation metrics Out-of-state investing and Mike’s preference for value-add properties Mitigating risk in multifamily and the sweet spot for operational economies of scale The markets Mike has his eye on right now, the metrics he uses to evaluate a value-add property, and how occupancy rates impact renovations Additional amenities tenants now look for in a multifamily property How Mike’s company, RealSource Residential, helps investors find their next investment Mike Madsen’s advice for investors looking to get into multifamily Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Supporting Resources: RealSource Residential website - Connect with Mike Madsen on LinkedIn - Website - YouTube - Instagram - Instagram - TikTok - Zillow - Bigger Pockets - Facebook - Email - Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at Let them know we sent you.
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234: Unbiased and Apolitical Economic Forecasting For Now and the Future with Lauren Saidel-Baker
04/17/2025
234: Unbiased and Apolitical Economic Forecasting For Now and the Future with Lauren Saidel-Baker
Politics is often blamed for economic shifts, but there are usually more factors at play. Today’s guest is an economic expert who explains how it can impact investors and buyers alike. On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan interviews Lauren Saidel-Baker, an economist with ITR Economics, the oldest privately-held, continuously operating economic research and consulting firm in the U.S. ITR Economics was founded in 1948. Jonathan and Lauren start the discussion by explaining how ITR Economics predicts economic shifts and how Lauren became an economist with ITR after a stint in asset management. She shares how politics and election cycles can affect economics, her predictions for 2025, and what real estate investors should look for. You’ll hear the disruptions that natural disasters, population shifts, and weather can have on the economy, what regular homebuyers and investors should be looking for with purchases, and the trajectory of the real estate market in the next five years. Lauren outlines the potential opportunities real estate may offer with an economic downturn, her advice for remaining in real estate during economic disruption, and what she’s doing to prepare for a potential economic depression. The economy is frequently in the news, but we don’t often hear about the impact it can have on specific industries. Lauren Saidel-Baker makes the case for real estate even during economic turmoil. In this episode, you will hear: Lauren Saidel-Baker’s explanation of how ITR Economics predicts economic shifts Her introduction to economics through a job after college in asset management, and what she loves about working at ITR Economics How election cycles impact economics Lauren’s predictions for 2025 in comparison to 2024 and what real estate investors should look out for Disruptions that natural disasters can create, and the impact of population shifts and weather What regular homebuyers and investors should look for when they make a purchase The trajectory of real estate for the next five years based on current data Real estate opportunities that are likely with an economic downturn Population shifts around the country based on affordability What Lauren suggests for buyers in 2025 and the continued demand for multifamily assets Her advice for those who want to remain in real estate but are concerned about economic disruption, and how consumers can remain apprised of economic shifts What Lauren is doing to prepare for the coming economic depression Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, we've created a PDF that has all of the key information for you from the episode. Just go to the episode page at https://zenandtheartofrealestateinvesting.com/podcast/234/ to download it. Supporting Resources: ITR Economics - ITR Economics on YouTube - ITR Economics on Facebook - ITR Economics’s Instagram - Follow ITR Economics on LinkedIn - Website - YouTube - Instagram - Instagram - TikTok - Zillow - Bigger Pockets - Facebook - Email - Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at Let them know we sent you.
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233: My Long History With Accessory Dwelling Units
04/14/2025
233: My Long History With Accessory Dwelling Units
Accessory dwelling units (ADUs) and their cousin, detached accessory dwelling units (DADUs), can offer tremendous benefits and add value to a property. On this solo episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan shares his long history with ADUs and DADUs, beginning with his childhood. He outlines the main differences between ADUs and DADUs and the regulations that can impact them in your particular location. You’ll hear how these units can offer independent living spaces to teenagers and young adults while keeping them close, the benefits of using them as short- or mid-term rentals, and why Jonathan views them as a big value-add when considering a property. Jonathan has a long and varied history with real estate, and his unique take on ADUs and DADUs may make you think twice before turning down a property with one on the premises. In this episode, you will hear: ADUs and DADUs as a solution to the affordable housing crisis The differences between an accessory dwelling unit (ADU) and a detached accessory dwelling unit (DADU) Understanding the regulations surrounding ADUs and DADUs in your area Jonathan’s personal history with this real estate asset class and using them as an independent living space as a teenager The benefits of putting teenagers in ADUs or DADUs for the summer vacations Renting your ADU as a short-term or mid-term rental when your community allows it The multiple uses ADUs can have and buying homes with them as a feature Added value and opportunities these units add to a property Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Supporting Resources: Website - YouTube - Instagram - Instagram - TikTok - Zillow - Bigger Pockets - Facebook - Email - Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at Let them know we sent you.
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232: How To Invest Together and Think Differently About Real Estate with Paul Shannon
04/10/2025
232: How To Invest Together and Think Differently About Real Estate with Paul Shannon
Making mistakes and learning from them is all part of the real estate investing game. Today’s guest shares the lessons he’s learned along the way, especially when it comes to syndications. On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan interviews Paul Shannon, a fund manager at InvestWise Collective. Paul has acquired more than 200 residential units by recycling equity and JV. He is a limited partner who has invested in more than 40 deals as a passive investor. Paul is also the co-host of PassivePockets, a BiggerPockets podcast on passive investing. As Jonathan and Paul start their discussion, they explore how Paul earned his investing stripes and flipped most of his single-family properties. Paul outlines his expectations as a limited partner in a syndication, the advantages of being an expert in your local market, and the one asset class Paul would never handle himself. You’ll hear the greatest power an investor has, the importance of diversification, and why you need to understand your risk tolerance as a part of your investment strategy. Finally, Jonathan and Paul cover doing your due diligence, remaining patient, and knowing you have an out for an investment when you need it. Syndications are becoming more popular for those seeking passive investing opportunities, and Paul Shannon outlines what you should know before diving in headfirst. In this episode, you will hear: The first time Paul Shannon heard about syndications and how he earned his investing stripes with his first few properties How Paul used his single-family properties and why most were flips His expectations when he invests in a syndication as a limited partner The advantages of being an expert in your local market and partnering with syndications that are experts in their local markets The one asset class Paul would never handle himself, and the greatest power an investor has Remaining diversified to mitigate risk Understanding your risk tolerance as a part of your investing strategy and the connection macroeconomics has to everything Doing due diligence and the importance of patience Being prepared and having outs ready to go when you need them The formation of Paul’s company and podcast, and why he’s agnostic about asset classes Growing interest in syndications and where it’s coming from GPs and a willingness to say no to LPs who aren’t a good fit Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, we've created a PDF that has all of the key information for you from the episode. Just go to the episode page at https://zenandtheartofrealestateinvesting.com/podcast/232/ to download it. Supporting Resources: InvestWise Collective website - PassivePockets on YouTube - Connect with Paul Shannon on LinkedIn - Website - YouTube - Instagram - Instagram - TikTok - Zillow - Bigger Pockets - Facebook - Email - Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at Let them know we sent you.
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231: Creating Impact Equity Through Real Estate Syndications with Randy Smith
04/07/2025
231: Creating Impact Equity Through Real Estate Syndications with Randy Smith
For many investors, it takes a while to become comfortable with syndications. For today’s guest, he tried other real estate investing methods before becoming a syndication expert. Today’s episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing features Randy Smith, founder of Impact Equity. He brings over 25 years of experience in corporate sales and leadership to real estate investing and launched Impact Equity in June 2022. Randy’s company helps investors spend money with world-class operators across several projects. He also launched RAI$E Capital Coaching and Consulting to help new capital raisers start their businesses. Randy is the co-host of The Gentle Art of Crushing it. Jonathan and Randy start their conversation by exploring Randy’s “Rich Dad Poor Dad” background and why it took until he was in his 40s to pursue real estate investing. He shares his first steps to move toward a real estate career, the pros and cons of turnkey properties, and Randy’s initial investing mistakes. Randy shares that he moved to syndications after trying out the BRRRR strategy, the importance of doing your due diligence in syndication investing, and why debt is the biggest risk factor in these transactions. Jonathan and Randy cover the current challenges in his portfolio, the importance of diversifying, and why building a community as an investor is critical. As the discussion winds down, Randy explains the importance of understanding your syndication preferences, how he uses fund of funds, and the three most important things to look for in a deal. With a lengthy career in sales, Randy Smith brings a unique perspective to real estate syndications and offers expert advice on what to look for. In this episode, you will hear: Randy Smith’s “Rich Dad Poor Dad” background and why he was in his 40s before he got started in real estate The first steps Randy took to move toward a career in real estate The pros and cons of turnkey properties and his initial mistakes What brought Randy to syndications after trying the BRRRR strategy The due diligence required when buying into a syndication Why debt is the single biggest risk factor in these deals Current challenges in Randy’s portfolio and the importance of diversification General principles that apply across multiple asset classes The importance of community as a real estate investor Understanding your preferences in a syndication Fund of funds and how they work How to find a syndication using Randy Smith’s tips for finding the right buy The three most important things to look for in a deal What you can learn from Randy’s coaching program Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, we've created a PDF that has all of the key information for you from the episode. Just go to the episode page at https://zenandtheartofrealestateinvesting.com/podcast/231/ to download it. Supporting Resources: Impact Equity website - Randy Smith on Facebook - Randy’s Instagram - Connect with Randy on LinkedIn - The Gentle Art of Crushing It - Website - YouTube - Instagram - Instagram - TikTok - Zillow - Bigger Pockets - Facebook - Email - Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at Let them know we sent you.
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230: Why Notes Are Hands-Off Real Estate Investments with Nathan Turner
04/03/2025
230: Why Notes Are Hands-Off Real Estate Investments with Nathan Turner
Notes aren’t the most conventional method of real estate investing, but this niche can offer benefits other asset classes don’t. On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan sits down with Nathan Turner, owner and president of Earnest Inc., which is also Earnest Investing. Nathan began investing in the U.S. real estate market in 2008 by creating notes, which later evolved into buying performing and nonperforming notes. Jonathan and Nathan start with Nathan’s decision to pursue notes versus properties and how he entered the business. Nathan shares his previous entrepreneurial pursuits and eventual pivot to fix-and-flips, leading to notes. You’ll hear what Nathan’s lightbulb moment was as he bought mortgage notes and realized he could be helping people in trouble with their mortgages. Nathan explains the current lack of nonperforming mortgages, what he sees for the future of the real estate market, and some of the tools he uses to find notes available for purchase. He stresses the importance of education and networking before diving into this side of real estate, the barriers of entry you can expect, and the upcoming Diversified Mortgage Expo conference in Nashville. Finally, Nathan shares his advice for investors interested in this asset class. If you’re curious about what it takes to become a note investor, tune in for this episode with Nathan Turner’s expert take on the business. In this episode, you will hear: Nathan Turner’s decision to invest in notes rather than properties, and how he got into this business His previous entrepreneurial pursuits with franchises, and why he pivoted to fix-and-flips, which led to notes Nathan’s lightbulb moment from buying mortgage notes and how he realized he could actually be helping people The current lack of nonperforming mortgages and what’s driving it What may be in the future for the real estate market Tools Nathan uses for finding notes to purchase, and why education and networking matter The barriers to entry for note investing and the questions you should ask The upcoming Diversified Mortgage Expo conference and what you can expect to take away from it Nathan’s company, Earnest Investing, and what they do His advice for getting started with note investing and preferred markets Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, we've created a PDF that has all of the key information for you from the episode. Just go to the episode page at https://zenandtheartofrealestateinvesting.com/podcast/230/ to download it. Supporting Resources: Earnest Investing - Earnest Investing on Facebook - Find Earnest Investing on Instagram - Connect with Earnest Investing on LinkedIn - Following Earnest Investing on TikTok - Website - YouTube - Instagram - Instagram - TikTok - Zillow - Bigger Pockets - Facebook - Email - Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at Let them know we sent you.
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229: The Secrets of Add-A-Level House Flipping with Gabe DaSilva
03/31/2025
229: The Secrets of Add-A-Level House Flipping with Gabe DaSilva
Adding levels to existing homes can be lucrative for flipping homes, especially when your market is saturated with older homes. On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan welcomes returning guest Gabe DaSilva back to the show. Gabe is the founder and president of the DaSilva Group. He is also the founder of the Add-A-Level Bus Tour, Fix & Flip Foundation, Real Estate Riches Mastermind, and Learn & Earn with the DaSilva Group. Jonathan and Gabe begin their conversation with how Gabe continues to be successful with home flips despite limited inventory and high interest rates. You’ll hear about Gabe's competitive advantage, how he uses systems, syndication, and clustering to increase profitability, and how he’s using Zillow Builder and the MLS as sales tools. He explains what you need to know before adding a level to an older home, the amenities that can help a property reach its full potential, and the rise in multigenerational living as homes increase in price. Jonathan and Gabe discuss the challenges higher interest rates present in the market, the benefits of adding levels to homes, and how Gabe qualifies a market for his flips. He shares what he looks for in a home’s location, what you can learn from the Add-A-Level Bus Tour he hosts twice a year, and the importance of grit in a successful investor. Adding a level to an older home is a creative way to increase its value and stand out in a market with limited inventory. Gabe DaSilva teaches new investors how to leverage this strategy successfully. In this episode, you will hear: How Gabe DaSilva continues to find success with flipping despite limited inventory and high interest rates The competitive advantage he has due to his reputation Systems, syndication, and clustering when flipping properties Gabe’s use of Zillow Builder and the MLS as sales tools and building a narrative around the home What you need to know when adding a level to an older home The components a basement needs to be considered as additional square footage in a home Amenities that help a property reach its max potential The rise in multigenerational living The challenges that higher interest rates are presenting in home sales Benefits of adding levels to homes to increase their value Qualifying a market for flips and determining whether or not a location works The bus tour Gabe hosts twice a year for investors, and what people can learn from it Why grit is crucial for the students in Gabe’s program Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, we've created a PDF that has all of the key information for you from the episode. Just go to the episode page at https://zenandtheartofrealestateinvesting.com/podcast/229/ to download it. Supporting Resources: Gave DaSilva’s website - Gabe’s YouTube channel - Find Gabe on Facebook - Gabe’s Instagram - Connect with Gabe DaSilva on LinkedIn - Fix and Flip Syndicate - Get the “Flip Tips” book - Website - YouTube - Instagram - Instagram - TikTok - Zillow - Bigger Pockets - Facebook - Email - Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at Let them know we sent you.
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228: How To Take Short-Term Rentals From Construction To Cribs with Mark Lumpkin
03/27/2025
228: How To Take Short-Term Rentals From Construction To Cribs with Mark Lumpkin
Short-term rentals are still a popular asset class, but you have to optimize them for your guest avatar to get them right. On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan sits down with Mark Lumpkin, Sales Director at STR Cribs. STR Cribs helps STR owners understand what makes a high-performing short-term rental. They are renovation and design experts for top-performing short-term rentals nationwide. Jonathan and Mark start their conversation by exploring the features a short-term rental needs to stand out, how you can optimize a property’s features, and the importance of addressing preventative maintenance before it becomes a problem. Mark explains why paying attention to guest feedback, performing trial stays at a property with friends and family, and the difference between market-specific and universal amenities is important. You’ll hear why data is essential in purchasing the right property in the right market, why you shouldn’t overlook secondary STR markets, and adding ADU or disability accessibility to appeal to more guests. Finally, Mark shares how he and his wife began investing in STRs, how STR Cribs can help STR owners design and build their ideal short-term rental, and his advice for investing in an asset you can use and rent out. Short-term rentals continue to be a popular option for real estate investors, and now, more than ever, they have to stand out from the crowd. Mark Lumpkin offers insights on creating a property you and your guests can enjoy. In this episode, you will hear: What drew Mark Lumpkin to short-term rentals, and why each STR has to stand out Optimizing the features of each property and customizing it to your guest avatar Addressing preventive maintenance and longevity rather than putting them off Paying attention to guest reviews and listening to feedback Staying in your properties and asking friends and family to stay there to address any issues you didn’t think about Market-specific amenities versus universal amenities based on different guest types Using data to purchase the right property in the right market Why you shouldn’t overlook some of the secondary STR markets The importance of ADU or disability accessibility in a property How Mark and his wife began investing in STRs after some international travel where they learned some lessons about what did not fit their lifestyle How STR Cribs helps STR owners design and build their ideal STR The lack of top-tier homes available as STRs and the best ROI amenities Mark’s advice for investing in an STR you can use as well as rent out Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, we've created a PDF that has all of the key information for you from the episode. Just go to the episode page at https://zenandtheartofrealestateinvesting.com/podcast/228/ to download it. Supporting Resources: STR Cribs website - STR Cribs on YouTube - Connect with Mark Lumpkin on LinkedIn - Website - YouTube - Instagram - Instagram - TikTok - Zillow - Bigger Pockets - Facebook - Email - Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at Let them know we sent you.
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227: How To Perfect Your Real Estate Side Hustle with Devon Kennard
03/24/2025
227: How To Perfect Your Real Estate Side Hustle with Devon Kennard
Creating a real estate side hustle can be a great way to hone your skills while continuing to build your primary source of real estate income. Today’s guest has a new book that teaches you exactly how to do it. On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan welcomes returning guest Devon Kennard. Devon is a former NFL pro football player and author of the new book “Real Estate Side Hustle.” He is also an investor and a lender. Jonathan and Devon dive into their conversation by discussing Devon’s new book, “Real Estate Side Hustle,” and what you can learn from it. Devon shares how he’s building systems to create processes using AI, the importance of identifying your side hustle goal, and why he dislikes the lack of control in syndications. You’ll hear the difference between fast and slow money, why you should be continuously learning, and the four components of a good real estate team. Finally, Jonathan and Devon cover why cheaper markets and properties aren’t necessarily the best investing method and why you should view your real estate business as a ticket to FIRE. A career in real estate doesn’t mean you have to focus on just one component. Devon Kennard explains how creating a side hustle within the industry can help you achieve your goals faster. In this episode, you will hear: Devon Kennard’s inspiration for his second book, “Real Estate Side Hustle” Calculated risk and building out systems to create a process using AI Identifying what’s most important in your side hustle and focusing on those goals Why Devon began lending primarily in his local area instead of across the country His experiences with syndications and why he dislikes the lack of control in them Fast versus slow money Creating a side hustle alongside your career and not idealizing retirement but instead creating time freedom The importance of continuous learning Devon’s ideal client for 42 Solutions and his preference for experienced borrowers The four components of a good team: deal finder, contractor, property manager, and lender Why starting in the cheaper markets and properties isn’t always the best investing method The social media influence to count doors and why it isn’t always the best indicator of wealth Business as the ticket to FIRE Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, we've created a PDF that has all of the key information for you from the episode. Just go to the episode page at https://zenandtheartofrealestateinvesting.com/podcast/227/ to download it. Supporting Resources: Devon Kennard’s website - Find Devon on YouTube - Devon’s Facebook page - Devon on Instagram - Connect with Devon Kennard on LinkedIn - Devon’s Twitter/X - 42 Solutions website - Get Devon’s new book, “Real Estate Side Hustle” - Website - YouTube - Instagram - Instagram - TikTok - Zillow - Bigger Pockets - Facebook - Email - Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at Let them know we sent you.
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226: How To Rebuild Your Financial Future One Property At a Time with Melissa Nash
03/20/2025
226: How To Rebuild Your Financial Future One Property At a Time with Melissa Nash
Securing a solid financial future is often the biggest reason people enter the world of real estate investing, which doesn’t require attaining as many properties as you may believe. On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan interviews Melissa Nash, founder of Lady Luck Investments, which emerged out of necessity. Melissa built a portfolio that secured her family’s financial future in less than six years. Now, she’s teaching other women how they can do the same. Melissa wants to change the story of women in real estate and create a legacy of wealth and empowerment. Jonathan and Melissa start their conversation with the story of Melissa’s grandmother-in-law, who began investing in real estate in Los Angeles in the 1960s. Melissa shares her difficulties as a female investor today, her early failures due to her unwillingness to learn, and how a mentor introduced her to turnkey real estate. She highlights the success she eventually found with a Section 8 property, eventually leading to buying some short-term rentals, and explains why she self-manages her properties rather than paying a property manager. You’ll hear the importance of being a good host with STRs, using those STRs to generate immediate cash flow to fund other ventures, and what new investors fail to do as they start their portfolios. Building a financial future with real estate is a method used for generations, and Melissa Nash is creating a legacy of wealth for her family. In this episode, you will hear: Melissa Nash’s inspiration from her husband’s grandmother, who was a real estate investor in Los Angeles in the 1960s and ‘70s The difficulties of being a female real estate investor, even today The failures Melissa experienced before her real estate career took off Her unwillingness to learn in the beginning which contributed to those early failures How a mentor introduced Melissa to turnkey real estate Finding success with a Section 8 property and how that led to short-term rental purchases she self-manages The importance of being a good host for great feedback Adding or removing amenities based on requests or negative feedback STRs as a way to generate immediate cash flow for more STRs or long-term rentals Using your rentals for your own enjoyment and building a generational legacy with real estate investing What new investors fail to do as they get their portfolios started Melissa’s mission to educate women on real estate and the potential it offers Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, we've created a PDF that has all of the key information for you from the episode. Just go to the episode page at https://zenandtheartofrealestateinvesting.com/podcast/226/ to download it. Supporting Resources: Melissa Nash’s website - Melissa’s YouTube channel - Lady Luck Investments on Facebook - Find Melissa on Instagram - Connect with Melissa on LinkedIn - Website - YouTube - Instagram - Instagram - TikTok - Zillow - Bigger Pockets - Facebook - Email - Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at Let them know we sent you.
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225: Maximizing Rental Returns Through Stress-Free Property Management with Mo Hashem
03/17/2025
225: Maximizing Rental Returns Through Stress-Free Property Management with Mo Hashem
Property management isn’t often at the top of a new investor’s list when they’re thinking about buying a piece of real estate. However, property management can be the ticket to a stress-free investing experience. On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan welcomes Mo Hashem, the visionary behind Flat Fee Landlord, one of the country's fastest-growing residential property management companies. He helps working professionals go from owning one primary residence into profitable real estate investments. Mo has worked across the real estate industry in investing, property management, managing and buying multifamily, selling homes, and training real estate professionals. He has more than 4,000 tenants and has worked with over 2,000 investors. Jonathan and Mo begin their discussion with Mo Hashem’s introduction to real estate in college as a career and why he saw it as a vehicle to attain freedom. Mo outlines how he benefitted from a real estate license, the biggest misconception about single-family assets, and how hiring a competent property manager to do the work you don’t want can aid your business. You’ll hear how to find the right property manager, why scaling is important in real estate, and the importance of maintaining a day job–probably for longer than you thought you should. Finally, Mo shares why you need to be comfortable with your finances, how he started Flat Fee Landlord, and his advice for placing tenants and their pets in your properties. A great property manager can be a game-changer. Mo Hashem’s tips make it easier to identify what you need in a property manager. In this episode, you will hear: Mo Hashem’s introduction to real estate as a way to earn an income in college Looking at real estate as a vehicle to attain freedom Benefitting from a real estate license and the post-2008 economy Mo had to overcome The biggest misconception about single-family rentals Hiring a competent property management company to do the work you don’t want to do Finding the right property manager for your rentals and when to hand off management The importance of scale in real estate Mo’s advice for starting a real estate portfolio while retaining your day job Staying power in the real estate investing game and treating it like a business The role of finances in investing and finding the middle ground where you’re comfortable The inception of Flat Fee Landlord and how Mo differentiated it from other property management services Vetting tenants and choosing where to invest based on state laws Mo’s advice for placing tenants and pets in your properties Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, we've created a PDF that has all of the key information for you from the episode. Just go to the episode page at https://zenandtheartofrealestateinvesting.com/podcast/225/ to download it. Supporting Resources: Flat Fee Landlord - Houston Property Management - Flat Fee Landlord on YouTube - Find Flat Fee Landlord on Facebook - Flat Fee Landlord’s Instagram - Connect with Mo Hashem on LinkedIn - Flat Fee Landlord on X - Website - YouTube - Instagram - Instagram - TikTok - Zillow - Bigger Pockets - Facebook - Email - Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at Let them know we sent you.
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224: Creating Real Impact Through Passive Real Estate Investing with Nate Shields and Troy Zimmerman
03/13/2025
224: Creating Real Impact Through Passive Real Estate Investing with Nate Shields and Troy Zimmerman
Betting on yourself first is often the key to creating a real impact on your real estate investing journey. On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan welcomes guests Nate Shields and Troy Zimmerman from Missional Capital Group. Missional Capital Group is a real estate investment company that believes financial success should be driven by purpose and ethical principles. Nate and Troy’s journey began with a simple yet powerful vision to create a platform that aligns financial prosperity with social responsibility. Jonathan, Nate, and Troy start their discussion by delving into Troy and Nate’s introductions to real estate. You’ll hear how they met, the block Troy had as a financial advisor, how Nate and Troy overcame it to form Missional Capital Group, and why relationships are important to real estate transactions. Nate and Troy explain the importance of betting on yourself first, having income streams outside of syndication investments, and how they decided syndications are a good investment using the strategies they developed for investing. Finally, Nate and Troy share how they chose their market in Alabama, their primary source for finding off-market deals, the benefits of holding a real estate license as an investor, and how meetups can be a great way to connect to other investors. Syndications can create the impactful passive real estate investing many investors are seeking. Nate Shields and Troy Zimmerman outline what you need to know about this investing vehicle. In this episode, you will hear: Troy Zimmerman’s initial interest in real estate through his family members Nate Shields’s introduction to real estate in his early 20s after reading “Rich Dad Poor Dad” and “Rich Dad’s CASHFLOW Quadrant” How Troy and Nate met and began working together, and the impact market shifts have had on their business model over the years The block Troy had as a financial advisor to form Missional Capital Group with Nate Relationships and why they matter so much in real estate transactions Betting on yourself first and the importance of having income streams outside of syndication investments Deciding to begin investing in syndications and how Troy and Nate’s strategy gave them confidence Investing in Alabama and their fortune in finding that particular market Troy and Nate’s leading source for finding off-market deals Opportunities for seller financing and what makes it harder to implement than most other strategies The benefits of holding a real estate license as an investor Nate and Troy’s current buy box and the importance of a trusted property manager Meetups as a way to get connected to other investors and their advice for new investors Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, we've created a PDF that has all of the key information for you from the episode. Just go to the episode page at https://zenandtheartofrealestateinvesting.com/podcast/224/ to download it. Supporting Resources: Missional Capital Group - Missional Capital Group’s Facebook page - Missional Capital on Instagram - Find Missional Capital on LinkedIn - Troy Zimmerman on Instagram - Connect with Troy on LinkedIn - Find Nate Shields on Instagram - Connect with Nate on LinkedIn - Website - YouTube - Instagram - Instagram - TikTok - Zillow - Bigger Pockets - Facebook - Email - Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at Let them know we sent you.
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223: Turning Your Income Into Lasting Wealth Through Real Estate with Whitney Elkins-Hutten
03/10/2025
223: Turning Your Income Into Lasting Wealth Through Real Estate with Whitney Elkins-Hutten
Diversifying your real estate portfolio can be the ticket to lasting wealth and legacy. On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan welcomes Whitney Elkins-Hutten, a former healthcare professional turned real estate investor. An investor since 2002, Whitney is a passive income strategist dedicated to helping busy professionals achieve financial freedom and build lasting wealth. She is the founder of Ash Wealth and part of the PassiveInvesting.com team. Jonathan and Whitney begin their conversation by discussing the importance of diversity in investing and some lessons she learned early in her investing career. Whitney shares her challenges with interest rates even before the 2008 financial crisis, what led her into real estate, and her love-hate relationship with real estate social media. She explains why having reserves for problems that arise in your investing career is important, doing your due diligence before purchasing a property, and what prompted Whitney to move into syndications and scale her business. Finally, she and Jonathan cover the assets she would advise someone to purchase today, the downsides of 1031 exchanges, and the three things you need to be successful in real estate. Whitney Elkins-Hutten has built a portfolio that creates a legacy and teaches others how to do the same. In this episode, you will hear: The importance of diversity in investing, according to Whitney Elkins-Hutten Whitney’s challenges with interest rates and what that taught her about diversity Her entry into real estate in 2002 and what led her into it The disaster that happened 24 hours after closing on one of her properties Whitney’s love-hate relationship with social media related to real estate Setting aside reserves for the problems that can arise in real estate investing Doing your due diligence before buying a property, and what photos don’t tell you Scaling up the business, moving from flipping into rentals, and what prompted Whitney to move into syndications Building a debt layer into her portfolio as another form of diversity The assets Whitney would advise someone to purchase today if they want to diversify their portfolios Understanding how to compound your money over time The downsides of doing 1031 exchanges, the importance of a solid financial foundation, and the three things you need to be successful in real estate Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, we've created a PDF that has all of the key information for you from the episode. Just go to the episode page at https://zenandtheartofrealestateinvesting.com/podcast/223/ to download it. Supporting Resources: PassiveInvesting.com - Whitney Elkins-Hutten on LinkedIn - Ash Wealth - Website - YouTube - Instagram - Instagram - TikTok - Zillow - Bigger Pockets - Facebook - Email - Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at Let them know we sent you.
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222: Curating Resort Residential and Hospitality Real Estate Assets with Stephen Petasky
03/06/2025
222: Curating Resort Residential and Hospitality Real Estate Assets with Stephen Petasky
Owning luxury real estate can offer lifestyle benefits aside from the perks of an income-producing asset. On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan interviews Stephen Petasky, founder and CEO of the Luxus Group. Luxus aims to provide an overall travel solution for affluent families seeking enhanced vacation experiences. Luxus Group includes Luxus Developments, Luxus Restorations, Luxus Vacation Properties, and a special project called Ena Lake Lodge, a private fishing club. Jonathan and Stephen start their discussion by exploring Stephen’s interest in the luxury real estate space that began with his parents. Stephen explains why it’s important to enjoy the real estate you own and the lifestyle that comes with it, balancing making a profit with enjoying your properties, and involving the entire family in a vacation or luxury property purchase. You’ll hear about Stephen and his wife’s first investment purchases and how they involved family and friends, understanding your target avatar, and why remaining hyper-local and understanding your community’s needs can be a business boost. Finally, Stephen outlines what he’s looking forward to as his business grows and evolves and builds brand loyalty and trust with guests. Part of the appeal of buying real estate is its tangibility, and owning luxury properties can up the ante. Stephen Petasky reveals how he built a successful business with luxury properties while enjoying them with his family. In this episode, you will hear: How Stephen Petasky developed an interest in the luxury real estate space through his parents Enjoying the real estate you own and the lifestyle it can create The balance between making a profit and enjoying the properties you own Involving the whole family in a vacation or luxury property purchase Stephen and his wife’s first investment purchases and how they involved family and friends Understanding who your avatar is and building the business around something you’re passionate about The transition from the initial iteration of Luxus to vacation rental management as Airbnb became more popular Remaining hyper-local and understanding your community’s needs What Stephen is looking forward to as his business grows The loyalty guests feel to brands and how operators can retain that loyalty Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, we've created a PDF that has all of the key information for you from the episode. Just go to the episode page at https://zenandtheartofrealestateinvesting.com/podcast/222/ to download it. Supporting Resources: Luxus Vacation Properties - Luxus Vacation Properties on YouTube - Find Luxus on Instagram - Connect with Stephen Petasky on LinkedIn - Luxus Group - Luxus Restorations - Website - YouTube - Instagram - Instagram - TikTok - Zillow - Bigger Pockets - Facebook - Email - Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at Let them know we sent you.
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221: Creating Wealth and Leveling The Playing Field in Self-Storage with Mark Helm
03/03/2025
221: Creating Wealth and Leveling The Playing Field in Self-Storage with Mark Helm
Self-storage is an under-the-radar asset class that can be a real game-changer for creating wealth. Today’s guest has incredible knowledge about it and is on a mission to teach others about its benefits. On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan welcomes Mark Helm, a self-storage and real estate veteran. Mark is the author of “Creating Wealth Through Self-Storage” and co-owner and principal broker of Nexus Commercial Advisors. He also developed the self-storage financial analysis software Storage World Analyzer. Mark owns several self-storage facilities, is a self-storage developer, investor, speaker, consultant, and trainer, and is the co-owner and partner of Resolve. Jonathan and Mark begin their conversation by exploring Mark’s early career in real estate as a way to create supplemental income for his day job. Mark quickly discovered he loved real estate, attaining his CCIM designation and working as a commercial broker before moving into investing in self-storage. You’ll hear the challenges he initially faced, why no other asset is more localized, and what makes self-storage recession-resistant. Mark shares his strategy for self-storage, how he evaluates occupancy levels, and his opinion on dynamic pricing. Finally, he explains what he likes about conversions and expansions, the five KPIs Mark uses for every facility and manager, and technology’s impact on the self-storage industry. Mark Helm is a veteran real estate professional and self-storage guru. This episode is a must-listen for a deep dive into the self-storage world. In this episode, you will hear: Mark Helm’s interest in real estate as a way to supplement his income and how that led to a full-time career in real estate His attraction to commercial real estate, getting his CCIM designation, and then moving into investing in self-storage The challenges Mark faced when he started in self-storage and the benefits that outweighed them The importance of visibility in self-storage and why no other asset is more localized How this asset class can fail, and what makes it recession-resistant Mark’s strategy for self-storage and determining which deals are a yes or no Where he believes the deals are today Evaluating occupancy levels in a self-storage space Mark’s take on dynamic pricing Why the income increase should be higher than operational costs What Mark likes about conversions and expansions The five KPIs Mark uses for every facility and manager and how technology has changed the business Constructing self-storage units and some of the issues that can arise Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, we've created a PDF that has all of the key information for you from the episode. Just go to the episode page at https://zenandtheartofrealestateinvesting.com/podcast/221/ to download it. Supporting Resources: Creating Wealth Through Self-Storage - Mark Helm on YouTube - Find Mark on Facebook - Connect with Mark on LinkedIn - Resolve - Get the “Creating Wealth Through Self-Storage” book - Website - YouTube - Instagram - Instagram - TikTok - Zillow - Bigger Pockets - Facebook - Email - Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at Let them know we sent you.
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220: How To Reduce Your Taxable Income Through Cost Segregation on Real Estate with Erik Oliver
02/27/2025
220: How To Reduce Your Taxable Income Through Cost Segregation on Real Estate with Erik Oliver
Cost segregation can save you a lot of money on your investment properties through taxes. Today’s guest is an expert on this topic and shares what you need to know about cost segregation. On today’s episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan interviews Erik Oliver, Vice President of National Accounts at Cost Segregation Authority. His company reclassifies assets, which then allows you to accelerate the depreciation. Using this strategy could save you a ton of money on taxes. Jonathan and Erik explore cost segregation and who it benefits. You’ll hear Erik’s example of cost segregation for an office building, the importance of hiring an accountant specializing in this concept and real estate, and the audit considerations when you decide to do cost segregation. You’ll hear what Erik believes is the “must do” asset class for cost seg, the value of setting up a team to help mitigate your tax burden, and what Erik learned from his first disastrous rental property. Finally, Erik explains his involvement with micro apartments and opportunity zones as an answer to the affordable housing problem and the importance of cost segs in syndication investments. Taxes can take a big bite out of your investment income, and cost segregation can make a big difference in your returns. Don’t miss Erik Oliver’s expertise in making the most of cost segregation. In this episode, you will hear: What cost segregation is, and who needs it Erik Oliver’s example of cost segregation for an office building The importance of hiring an accountant who understands the concept of cost segregation and real estate Why cost segregation is way deeper than just the “stuff” Audit considerations when performing cost segregation The “must do” asset class for cost seg Setting up a team that can help you mitigate your tax burden Applying cost seg across multiple properties or in a house hacking scenario Erik’s first rental property, why it was a disaster, and what he learned from it Micro apartments and opportunity zones as an answer to the affordable housing problem The importance of cost segs in syndication investments Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, we've created a PDF that has all of the key information for you from the episode. Just go to the episode page at https://zenandtheartofrealestateinvesting.com/podcast/220/ to download it. Supporting Resources: Cost Segregation Authority - CSA Partners on LinkedIn - Website - YouTube - Instagram - Instagram - TikTok - Zillow - Bigger Pockets - Facebook - Email - Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at Let them know we sent you.
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219: The Blueprint To High-Performing Short-Term Rental Properties with John Bianchi
02/24/2025
219: The Blueprint To High-Performing Short-Term Rental Properties with John Bianchi
Having the right data is one way to ensure your investment in a short-term rental is a good one. On today’s episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, John Bianchi, the Airbnb Data Guy, sits down with Jonathan to explain the importance of data when buying a short-term rental. John is the founder of STR Search, which matches clients with the highest cash-flowing short-term properties. John is also the creator of Air Valuation and Air Optimization systems. Jonathan and John discuss how John became the Airbnb Data Guy. John shares the widespread availability of data and how it has impacted inexperienced investors getting into the STR market. He and Jonathan discuss why so many new Airbnb investors fail, how he developed an interest in STRs, and his start in real estate investing with arbitrage. John reveals the importance of balancing a worst-case scenario with taking action, what he looks for in a market for STRs, and the benefits of using AirDNA to evaluate a market. Finally, Jonathan and John cover his one piece of advice for those interested in STRs and the free course you can find on his website to help you get started. John Bianchi understands the importance of data in real estate investing and arguably knows more about short-term rental markets than anyone in the business. This episode is a must-listen if you’re contemplating entry into the STR world. In this episode, you will hear: How John Bianchi became the Airbnb Data Guy The widespread availability of data and its impact on inexperienced investors entering the market Operating an Airbnb and why so many new investors fail John’s interest in short-term rentals and his thoughts on the acquisition of STRs by hotel chains Building communities in resort areas, selling to an investor, and the various issues involved in that type of prospect His start with arbitrage in Chicago and Scottsdale and why that method isn’t for everyone Balancing a worst-case scenario with taking action Markers John looks for that indicate a good or bad market for STRs The benefits of using AirDNA to evaluate a market Why high net-worth individuals are buying STRs and not necessarily looking for them to make money What John needs to know about someone to find the right market for their STR John’s one piece of advice for someone who hasn’t done short-term rentals but is interested His free course on his website that teaches about STRs and the services his company offers Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on . Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, we've created a PDF that has all of the key information for you from the episode. Just go to the episode page at https://zenandtheartofrealestateinvesting.com/podcast/219/ to download it. Supporting Resources: STR Search - John Bianchi on YouTube - Find John on Instagram - Connect with John on LinkedIn - John’s TikTok - The Bianchi Method - Website - YouTube - Instagram - Instagram - TikTok - Zillow - Bigger Pockets - Facebook - Email - Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at Let them know we sent you.
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