248: Beating the Drum to the REIT Beat with David Auerbach
Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing
Release Date: 06/05/2025
264: Building Real Estate Wealth Through Rental Properties with Joel Miller
Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing
In today’s episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan sits down with experienced investor and author Joel Miller, who has spent nearly five decades building wealth through rental properties. Joel walks through his early days as a mobile DJ, his accidental path into real estate, and how he grew a portfolio of rentals, flipped over 100 houses, and became a trusted hard money lender in his community. Joel shares his unique perspective on incorporating real estate into an existing career without sacrificing a passion or day job. He emphasizes that real estate doesn’t have to...
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263: How To Become The Most Trusted Home Buyer In Your Town with Nick Disney
Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing
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262: Real Estate Investing Lessons From the Mad Scientist of Multifamily with Neal Bawa
Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing
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261: Building Family Offices To Invest and Protect Your Assets with Richard Wilson
Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing
In today’s episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan welcomes Richard Wilson, founder and CEO of the Family Office Club, to break down how the ultra-wealthy build, protect, and grow their assets. With more than 100,000 members and 18 years at the helm, Richard has helped thousands of family offices form investment strategies that create generational wealth. The episode opens with a look at what sets billionaires apart from the rest of us, from their appetite for risk to how they move quickly and avoid herd thinking. Richard explains that the most successful investors make...
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260: Why The Biggest Threat To Housing is Government Interference with Mark Shuler
Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing
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259: Thoughtfully Structured Alternative Investments Designed For Long-Term Success with Brad Johnson
Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing
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258: Helping Investors Build Wealth Through Multifamily Real Estate with Andrew Cushman
Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing
In today’s episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan interviews Andrew Cushman, founder of Vantage Point Acquisitions, to explore the evolution of his investing career and how he helps others build wealth through multifamily real estate. After leaving a stable career in chemical engineering in 2007, Andrew made a bold leap into house flipping and eventually multifamily investing, where he has now syndicated or repositioned over 3,000 units. Andrew explains why flipping quickly became unsustainable for him and his wife, and how they transitioned into multifamily with the...
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257: Creating Risk-Adjusted, Tax-Advantaged Returns Through Real Estate with Austin Masket
Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing
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256: How To Maximize Multifamily Net Operating Income Using Onsite Solar with Owen Barrett
Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing
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255: Rebuilding Communities and Redeveloping Housing with Peter Neill
Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing
In today’s episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan welcomes Peter Neill, co-founder and partner at GSP REI, for a conversation that blends capital raising, real estate development, and a commitment to rebuilding underserved communities. Peter shares how he moved from a sales and marketing role at a distressed mortgage firm to managing funds focused on affordable and workforce housing throughout the Mid-Atlantic. Along the way, he discovered that long-term success in real estate hinges on experience, consistency, and assembling the right team. Peter reflects on early...
info_outlineIn this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan welcomes REIT industry veteran David Auerbach, Chief Investment Officer at Hoya Capital and publisher of The Daily REITBeat Newsletter. David shares his 25-year journey in the world of real estate investment trusts (REITs), helping listeners understand how REITs work, how they fit into a balanced portfolio, and why they’re a powerful option for long-term, income-focused investing.
They break down the differences between public and private REITs, explain why REITs can be a great entry point for investors seeking exposure to commercial real estate, and discuss how dividend income plays a central role in REIT performance. David also explains how REITs provide accessibility, transparency, and liquidity that most traditional real estate investments can’t.
In this episode, you will hear:
- How REITs offer an accessible, flexible way to gain exposure to real estate
- The importance of dividend income and holding long-term for compounding returns
- Ways to evaluate REITs based on asset type, such as multifamily, industrial, or senior housing
- What sets public REITs apart in terms of liquidity, reporting, and transparency
- REITs give access to diversified commercial real estate without requiring large amounts of capital or property management.
- Long-term investing in REITs is more effective than chasing short-term gains.
- Factors like interest rates and treasury yields that influence REIT performance
- Smart portfolio positioning strategies that include REITs alongside stocks and bonds
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