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Going Toward in Difficult Relationships

Practicing Hope Podcast

Release Date: 04/23/2025

Why Do I Feel Like This Relationship Has to Change Before I Can Have Peace? show art Why Do I Feel Like This Relationship Has to Change Before I Can Have Peace?

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Why does being misunderstood feel so threatening, especially in the relationships that matter most? In this second episode of our Beholding series, Tanner Smith, Sarah Johnson, and Chase Rashad Stancle explore unmet expectations, the need for approval, and the pressure we put on others to secure our identity and peace. They discuss grieving the relationship you wish you had, releasing the need to change another person, and finding your worth in God’s love. Through honest stories and practical suggestions, they consider how to love someone as they are, even when the relationship remains...

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NEW SERIES TRAILER — Introducing Beholding show art NEW SERIES TRAILER — Introducing Beholding

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Have you ever sat in a room where something needed to be said, but no one said it? In this episode, Tanner Smith, Chase Rashad Stancle, and Sarah Johnson explore the challenge of naming hard truths with both courage and care. From “pointing to elephants” in the room to learning how to avoid dropping “verbal bombs,” they reflect on the practices that help us discern when to speak, how to prepare our hearts, and how to stay connected even in difficult conversations. In this episode, you’ll hear: Why naming hard truths requires both courage and emotional maturity How to discern your...

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Have you ever had a decision that just… lingers? A conversation you know you need to have. A leadership call that keeps getting pushed to the next meeting. You tell yourself you’re “still discerning” — but you’re not actually moving forward. In this episode, Tanner Smith, Chase Rashad Stancle, and Sarah Johnson explore the tension between faithful discernment and avoidance — why decisions get stuck, how fear and uncertainty keep us spinning, and what it looks like to grow into leaders who can listen deeply and act when it’s time. Drawing on stories from church leadership,...

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Have you ever made a hard decision — only to realize the real challenge comes after? Maybe you’re in a church, workplace, or community where there’s real disagreement. You’ve wrestled with whether to stay or leave, and you’ve made your decision. But now a new set of questions begins: How do you stay without losing yourself? How do you leave without damaging relationships? And how do you move forward with honesty and care when there’s no clean resolution? In this episode, Tanner Smith, Chase Rashad Stancle, and Sarah Johnson explore what it looks like to live your decision with...

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When tension rises, certainty can feel like safety. We’ve all been in a room where strong conviction takes over and starts to sound like control, self-protection, and avoidance.  In leadership, certainty is often rewarded. It feels decisive and strong. But what if discernment asks us to listen instead?  In this episode, Tanner Smith, Chase Rashad Stancle, and Sarah Johnson explore what to do with your own certainty (and someone else’s), how to respond when someone says, “God told me…,” and how to stay grounded without closing the process. Drawing on Scripture and stories...

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What if the difficult people in your life are also your greatest teachers?

In this episode, Pastor Chase Rashad Stancle and Rev. Dr. Tanner Smith take an honest, hopeful look at what it means to lead in the midst of hard relationships. Instead of giving a formula to fix “those people,” they turn the focus inward, offering wisdom and practical tools to help leaders respond with love, boundaries, and self-awareness.

From guilt bonds to compassion fatigue, they unpack the reasons difficult relationships wear us down. They explore keys to staying grounded in your identity, even when tension rises. This conversation is full of laughter, honesty, and encouragement for any leader who feels worn out by people they’re trying to love well.

In this episode, Chase and Tanner discuss: 

  • Difficult people often reveal the deeper work God is doing in us.

  • Healthy boundaries are a gift to you and the people you lead.

  • Love doesn’t have to be earned to be given

 

If you liked this episode, check out these resources: 

  • The Weary Leader’s Guide to Burnout – A resource on compassion fatigue and leadership wellness.

  • The Wounded Healer by Henri Nouwen – A reflection on how our wounds can become a source of healing for others.

  • The Prodigal Son (Luke 15:11-32) – A biblical story referenced to explore the nature of God's unconditional love.

  • Writings by Howard Thurman – Particularly his reflections on inner calm during the civil rights movement and how that inner calm enables nonviolent presence in the face of outer chaos.


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