Ep. 65: Ruin, Rise and Return with Sarah Carter & Corinne Shark
Release Date: 11/03/2025
Make Discomfort Your B*tch
I sold a house. Traveled solo for a month. Lost relationships. Built new ones. Made mistakes. And guess what? I was okay. The season four finale of Make Discomfort Your Bitch is about walking new paths — and learning not to let your most reactive parts decide they’re wrong just because they’re uncomfortable. New chapter? No. New book. MORE ABOUT ME: I'm a mental health therapist, speaker, author and educator who helps organizations bridge the gap between knowing and doing the things that foster well-being, resilience and success. With expertise in school counseling, trauma-informed...
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What if self-awareness isn’t something we think our way into - but something we feel our way back to? In this episode, I sit down with Kat Conrad, a leadership consultant and incredible human, for a deep and practical conversation about what it really means to develop self-awareness. Together, we explore how reconnecting with our bodies opens access to the wisdom, grounding, and connection we so often try to find through overthinking or overdoing. Kat shares powerful tools and insights to help us slow down, tune in, and trust the messages our bodies are sending—so we can move through...
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This week, I had the privilege of sitting down with Corey Leak, host of The Existential Podcast, and this one goes deep. We talk about everything — from his journey through a cancer diagnosis, to the realities of working in DEI in today’s world, to his powerful story of faith deconstruction and how it shapes the way he moves through discomfort. It’s one of those conversations that doesn’t tie things up neatly — it opens them. We explore identity, growth, courage, and what it really means to stay human when life tests you. It’s raw, rich, and full of the kind of insights that stay...
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A TIME SENSITIVE NOTE FROM SUNDARI: A Healing Doula Academy Winter Scholarship In honor of Anandi Malcolm, A Healing Doula Academy is offering one Full and one Partial Scholarship for its Winter Cohort. Founded by her daughter, Grief & Death Doula and Author Sundari Malcolm, this spiritually rooted training prepares Grief and Death Doulas to hold space through ancient ritual, modern grief care, and soul-centered guidance. Recipients will receive lifetime access to the Academy’s online, and self-paced, certification program and a personal mentorship session with...
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NOTE: IF YOU'RE IN THE PHOENIX AREA, SARAH AND CORINNE WILL BE SIGNING COPIES OF THEIR BOOK AT CHANGING HANDS (PHX LOCATION) BOOKSTORE ON NOVEMBER 21ST! What if the moments that break us open are the same ones that reveal our deepest creative power? In this episode, I sit down with Sarah Carter and Corinne Shark, authors of The Skies Are Full of Us and hosts of the Spiritual Pyros podcast, for a luminous conversation about the arc of life we all travel — ruin, rise, and return. We talk about the courage it takes to tell our stories honestly, how their own creative process became a...
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In this episode, I sit down with the brilliant and dynamic EJ Jamele — CEO of crowdMGMT, producer, brand architect, and talent manager to some of the most sought-after artists in the beauty and entertainment industries. Our conversation goes far beyond brand strategy and success stories. EJ and I explore how discomfort can be one of our greatest teachers — especially when it comes to learning how to learn, growing our social awareness, and navigating a diverse world in values-based ways. EJ’s insight into leadership, collaboration, and creative excellence is both inspiring and grounding....
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A solo episode to introduce the next season of the podcast! ABOUT ME: I'm a mental health therapist, speaker, author and educator who helps organizations bridge the gap between knowing and doing the things that foster well-being, resilience and success. With expertise in school counseling, trauma-informed practices, and social-emotional intelligence (SEI), I help teams address the root causes of issues such as burnout, communication breakdowns, and resistance to change—rather than just treating surface-level symptoms. My engaging, evidence-based approach equips audiences with the...
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What if the moments that break us open are the same ones that reveal our deepest creative power?
In this episode, I sit down with Sarah Carter and Corinne Shark, authors of The Skies Are Full of Us and hosts of the Spiritual Pyros podcast, for a luminous conversation about the arc of life we all travel — ruin, rise, and return.
We talk about the courage it takes to tell our stories honestly, how their own creative process became a dambreaker for healing and expression, and how each of us has the ability to transmute hurt and harm into creative energy — the kind that fuels Good Work in the world.
If you’ve ever wondered how to alchemize pain into purpose or turn your own story into a force for connection and light, this conversation will remind you that wholeness isn’t about perfection — it’s about returning to yourself, over and over again.
MORE ABOUT CORINNE AND SARAH:
I'm a mental health therapist, speaker, author and educator who helps organizations bridge the gap between knowing and doing the things that foster well-being, resilience and success. With expertise in school counseling, trauma-informed practices, and social-emotional intelligence (SEI), I help teams address the root causes of issues such as burnout, communication breakdowns, and resistance to change—rather than just treating surface-level symptoms. My engaging, evidence-based approach equips audiences with the skills to navigate discomfort, build trust and create healthier, more adaptive workplaces.
I'm also a "Resolutionist" with Empowered Workplace Dispute Resolution, where I leverage my trauma-informed expertise to guide difficult conversations with compassion and clarity. I create safe spaces for resolving conflicts, turning challenges into growth opportunities. Whether working with frontline workers, organizational teams or educational leaders, I help people feel seen, heard and valued—transforming disputes into deeper understanding.
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