Cults & the Culting of America w/ Knitting Cult Lady & Dr. Scot Loyd | 63 | NA vs Opportunity
Cults and the Culting of America
Release Date: 01/06/2026
Cults and the Culting of America
Content warnings: discussion of child abuse, child sexual abuse, sexual assault, trauma, recovery culture, substance abuse, and high-control groups. In this episode of Cults and the Culting of America, Daniella and Scot are joined by Violet, a writer and creator who grew up immersed in 12-step programs from infancy. Violet shares her lived experience of being raised in Alcoholics Anonymous, examining how recovery culture, often treated as sacred and beyond critique, can function as a high-control system, particularly for children. The conversation explores themes of indoctrination,...
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In this special edition of Cults and the Culting of America, Daniella speaks with Ashley Shelton, founder of the Power Coalition for Equity and Justice in Louisiana, about organizing, democracy, and what it actually means to fight authoritarianism in real life. Ashley draws on her background in philanthropy, disaster recovery, and voter engagement to explain how Black and Brown communities—particularly in Louisiana—have long relied on mutual aid and organizing because government support has historically been absent or extractive. The conversation connects current political threats,...
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In this episode of Cults and the Culting of America, Daniella Mestyanek Young and Scot Loyd are joined by hip-hop artist, author, and activist Spryte the Emcee, who shares her deeply personal journey through addiction, recovery, and eventual deconstruction from Narcotics Anonymous. Spryte recounts a childhood shaped by trauma, loss, and instability, followed by immersion in NA after a near-fatal overdose. While the program initially provided safety and structure, it later became increasingly coercive and controlling, particularly when Spryte pursued higher education and personal growth. The...
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In this episode of Cults and the Culting of America, Daniella sits down with political scientist Thomas Kelly to revisit one of the most foundational ideas in cult studies: cognitive dissonance. Their conversation centers on Leon Festinger’s famous book When Prophecy Fails, which is often cited to explain why cult members double down on beliefs after predictions don’t come true. Thomas walks through his research uncovering serious methodological and ethical problems with that original study, arguing that the historical record actually shows the opposite of what Festinger claimed....
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In this episode, guest Ara Jade shares her seven-year experience inside a high-control religious group adjacent to the Hebrew Israelite movement, known as the Israel of God. She recounts how she was drawn in through family influence, biblical study practices, and a strong sense of community, only to later encounter manipulation, racism-based doctrine, misogyny, surveillance, fear tactics, and emotional control. Ara describes specific red flags, including purity rules for women, the weaponization of Black identity, pressure to obey male authority, and her arranged-like marriage. She explains...
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This episode of Cults and the Culting of America features guest Emily Hulen, a massage therapist and trauma coach who grew up in Christian Science and later navigated additional cult-like environments. Emily describes the core beliefs of Christian Science — including the denial of physical reality, rejection of medical care, and heavy reliance on prayer as a means of erasing mortal experience. She shares harrowing examples of untreated medical issues in her family and her own childhood injuries and illnesses that went unaddressed. Emily traces her early cognitive dissonance, beginning around...
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In this episode, Dr. Cynthia Brown discusses her journey in women's health and fertility, emphasizing the importance of understanding these topics beyond conventional medicine. The conversation explores the Maha movement and its impact on women's health, cultural perspectives on pregnancy and motherhood, and the dangers of extreme birthing practices. The discussion also touches on the romanticization of pain in motherhood, the need for community support in parenting, and the intersection of gender and medical care. Dr. Brown highlights the boy crisis and the influence of cult mentality on...
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Content Warnings: Sexual assault and child sexual abuse Sex trafficking and the Epstein list Cult dynamics, coercive control, and brainwashing White supremacy, racism, xenophobia, and fascism Historical violence, genocide, Nazism, U.S. colonial atrocities, police violence Political extremism, MAGA, Trump administration actions Death, including anticipated death of a political figure Domestic extremism, ICE raids, and militarized responses Cult-related childhood trauma and labor camp environments In this episode Daniella (“Knitting Cult Lady”) and historian Amanda...
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Content Warning: This episode contains discussions of religious and institutional abuse, child abuse, disordered eating, family estrangement, mental illness, trauma recovery, and medication withdrawal. Listener discretion is advised. In this episode of Cults and the Culting of America, hosts Dr. Scot Loyd and Daniella Mestyanek Young speak with Beth Granger, author of Born and RAZED: Surviving the Cult Was Only Half the Battle. Beth shares her experience growing up at Grenville Christian College, a Canadian boarding school later revealed to be a religious cult connected to the Community of...
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In this special episode, Daniella Mestyanek Young (“Knitting Cult Lady”) speaks with Dr. Bryan Pitts, Assistant Director of UCLA’s Latin American Institute, about the Brazilian military dictatorship (1964–1985) and how studying Brazil’s political history can help Americans understand current threats to democracy. They compare U.S. and Brazilian political systems, the cultural myths that obscure inequality (the “American Dream” vs. Brazil’s “racial democracy”), and the interplay between religion, class, and authoritarianism. The discussion explores how political elites,...
info_outlineIn this episode of Cults and the Culting of America, Daniella Mestyanek Young and Scot Loyd are joined by hip-hop artist, author, and activist Spryte the Emcee, who shares her deeply personal journey through addiction, recovery, and eventual deconstruction from Narcotics Anonymous. Spryte recounts a childhood shaped by trauma, loss, and instability, followed by immersion in NA after a near-fatal overdose. While the program initially provided safety and structure, it later became increasingly coercive and controlling, particularly when Spryte pursued higher education and personal growth.
The conversation explores how high-control dynamics mirror those found in religious cults and the military: rigid hierarchies, fear-based retention, conditional community, and the prioritization of the institution over individual wellbeing. Spryte describes being discouraged from trauma-informed therapy, pressured into unpaid labor, silenced after reporting sexual assault, and threatened with relapse and death when she chose to leave. Daniella and Scot contextualize these experiences within broader patterns of cult behavior, emphasizing that lifesaving support and systemic harm can coexist.
Together, the hosts and guest examine exit costs, the myth of unconditional community, and why institutions react so aggressively when former members tell their stories. The episode underscores the importance of autonomy, access to outside information, and the courage required to reclaim one’s narrative after leaving a high-control group.
Connect with Spryte:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAEKbb7_CXqw3YR0-9bIXUw
https://music.apple.com/us/artist/spryte-the-emcee/1570347589
https://open.spotify.com/artist/778OSUERPBwTmqkPoQ8IQg
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Key Takeaways
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Two things can be true at once: a group can provide real help while still being deeply harmful.
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12-step programs can function as high-control groups when they rely on fear, hierarchy, and coercion.
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Conditional community is a major red flag—support often disappears once someone leaves.
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Trauma-informed therapy, not ideology, was key to Spryte’s long-term healing.
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Institutions often react more strongly to members leaving than to harm happening within the group.
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Reporting abuse inside high-control groups is frequently discouraged or actively suppressed.
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Fear-based narratives about life “outside” are used to prevent people from leaving.
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Hierarchies, tokens, ranks, and longevity are used to enforce conformity and obedience.
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Telling one’s story threatens institutions more than it threatens individuals.
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True recovery and growth require autonomy, not lifelong submission to a system.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Pushup Challenge
02:55 Sprite the MC: A Journey of Resilience
05:48 The Impact of Trauma and Recovery
08:35 Breaking Free from Cult Mindsets
11:22 The Struggles of Leaving a Support Group
14:12 The Cost of Leaving: Community and Isolation
17:12 The Reality of Support in Recovery
20:01 The Courage to Share Stories
22:51 Reflections on Personal Growth and Healing
25:00 The Illusion of Achievement in Recovery Programs
26:51 Hierarchies and Control in Group Dynamics
29:24 Breaking Free from Limiting Beliefs
30:57 The Disconnect Between Online and Real Life
33:03 The Impact of High Control Groups
35:51 Navigating Trauma and Personal Stories
39:33 The Healing Power of Sharing Experiences
41:41 Resilience and the Journey of Recovery
Produced by Haley Phillips, Meghan Picmann, and Lizy Freudmann