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Ep 55: The Butterfly Women: Melbourne’s Hidden Histories & Murder Mysteries with Madeleine Cleary

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Release Date: 09/07/2025

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The Butterfly Women: Melbourne’s Hidden Histories & Murder Mysteries with Madeleine Cleary
Step back in time with Chelle and Leanne as they chat with debut author Madeleine Cleary about her captivating historical novel, The Butterfly Women. Set in the shadowy streets of 1863 Melbourne, this story weaves together romance, drama, and a murder mystery—all through the eyes of two unforgettable women: Johanna Callahan, an Irish immigrant working in a brothel, and Harriet Gardner, a determined journalist on the hunt for a serial killer.
Madeleine shares the wild ride of researching and writing her book (think: archives, family secrets, and a dash of footy-mum book clubs!), and what it means to shine a light on the complex, gritty, and often overlooked lives of women in 19th-century Australia.
In this episode:
  • The real-life family history that inspired The Butterfly Women—and how Madeleine’s infamous ancestor became a character in her novel
  • What it took to research Melbourne’s notorious Little Lon district (spoiler: years of digging through archives and old newspapers!)
  • The challenges and joys of balancing historical accuracy with page-turning storytelling
  • How the book evolved from a quiet literary novel to a full-on murder mystery, complete with red herrings and footy-mum sleuths
  • The power and agency of women—even in the toughest circumstances—and the entrepreneurial spirit of Melbourne’s brothel keepers
  • Madeleine’s writing process, from train commutes to tight deadlines, and her advice for aspiring authors
  • A sneak peek at Madeleine’s next project, inspired by another family mystery

Discussion prompt:
What’s your favourite historical fiction set in Australia, or a family story you wish someone would turn into a novel? Share your thoughts with us on Instagram or in the book club!


PS: If you love stories that blend real history, complex women, and a good old-fashioned whodunit, The Butterfly Women is a must-read. And keep an eye out for Madeleine’s next book—she’s just getting started!