Between The Lines

Chelle and Leanne are avid readers, mothers, and both work therapeutically with families. We read the books, and share perspectives on how they can add value to your life.

Ep 68: Romantasy after coming of age, with Olivia O'Flynn 04/26/2026

Ep 67: Secrets, Small Towns and Strong Female Detectives: Fiona Tarr Live at Sunshine Coast Fiction Festival 04/12/2026

Ep 67: Secrets, Small Towns and Strong Female Detectives: Fiona Tarr Live at Sunshine Coast Fiction Festival Secrets, Small Towns and Strong Female Detectives: Fiona Tarr Live at Sunshine Coast Fiction Festival In this special live episode of Between The Lines, Chelle and Leanne sit down with Australian crime author Fiona Tarr at the Sunshine Coast Fiction Festival to talk about her gripping, atmospheric novels. Fiona writes crime fiction set in distinctly Australian landscapes - from remote tropical towns to outback mining communities - where secrets run deep and the past is never far behind. We discuss two of her novels: Grave Regret, which follows detective Dawn Grave as she returns to the town tied to her traumatic past when her sister goes missing, and Her Buried Bones, where a young constable arrives in an outback opal town searching for answers about her family, only to uncover a suspicious death and a trail of buried secrets. Across both stories, Fiona explores what happens when personal history collides with professional duty, and how the truth can be both dangerous to uncover - and impossible to ignore. In This Episode We Discuss Writing crime fiction set in uniquely Australian environments Creating strong, complex female investigators How personal backstories shape investigative decisions The role of small towns in building tension and secrecy Balancing personal stakes with crime-driven plots Why secrets - both personal and communal - sit at the heart of great crime fiction Themes Explored The impact of the past on the present Family, loyalty and unresolved trauma Power dynamics in small communities Corruption, silence and hidden truths The tension between doing your job and following your instincts About the Books Grave Regret is a small-town Australian crime novel following detective Dawn Grave as she returns to her hometown to investigate her sister’s disappearance — a case that forces her to confront the trauma she’s spent decades trying to forget. Her Buried Bones is set in an outback opal mining town, where a young constable investigating a suspicious death uncovers secrets that may be linked to her own family’s past. Both novels combine strong settings, layered characters and steadily building tension. About the Author Fiona Tarr is an Australian crime author known for writing atmospheric mysteries set in rural and remote communities. Her work focuses on strong female leads, complex personal histories and the hidden dynamics within small towns. Join Our Book-Loving Community Chelle and Leanne created Between The Lines because they love books and great conversations — and wanted to share both with you. 📚 Listen to the podcast for author interviews and reading inspiration 📦 Or join our online book club, where we deliver books to your door and a book club to your reading nook /episode/index/show/2ca7063a-43dc-4422-94af-a9ab672e2488/id/40676530

Ep 66: Grief, Poetry and Starting Over: Courtney Peppernell on The Last Poem 03/30/2026

Ep 66: Grief, Poetry and Starting Over: Courtney Peppernell on The Last Poem In this episode of Between The Lines, Chelle and Leanne chat with internationally bestselling author Courtney Peppernell about her latest novel The Last Poem - a moving story about grief, identity and the possibility of starting again. The novel follows Wren Paisley, a successful poet whose life is shattered by the sudden loss of her fiancée, Lucy. Overwhelmed by grief and public attention, she leaves everything behind and finds herself drawn to the small town of Everston, Colorado - a place where no one knows her and she can begin again. There, she quietly rebuilds her life. She changes her name, renovates an old Victorian house, and slowly becomes part of a local grief support group that centres around poetry. For the first time since her loss, she begins to feel a sense of connection — to the town, to the people around her, and possibly to a new kind of love. But as her past begins to catch up with her, she is forced to confront whether she can truly leave her old life behind. In our conversation with Courtney, we explore: How grief shapes identity and the process of starting over The role of poetry in healing and connection Why modern poetry resonates so deeply with readers today Writing in a way that feels accessible, emotional and real How Courtney’s own readers influenced the creation of this story We also found ourselves completely drawn into the setting — and may or may not have added the town that inspired Everston, Colorado to our growing “to be visited” list. This is a heartfelt conversation about loss, healing and the quiet ways we begin again. About the Author Courtney Peppernell is an internationally bestselling Australian author, best known for her Pillow Thoughts series and other works exploring love, healing and self-discovery. Her books have sold millions of copies worldwide and have been translated into multiple languages. Courtney lives on the South Coast of NSW and continues to create work that fosters connection, reflection and emotional healing. Join Our Book-Loving Community Chelle and Leanne created Between The Lines because they love books and great conversations — and wanted to share both with you. 📚 Listen to the podcast for author interviews and reading inspiration 📦 Or join our online book club, where we deliver books to your door and a book club to your reading nook https://www.betweenthelinesaustralia.com/bookclub2026 /episode/index/show/2ca7063a-43dc-4422-94af-a9ab672e2488/id/40250170

Ep 65: Hormonal Harmony and it's impact on Health, with Sharon Kolkka 03/15/2026

Ep 65: Hormonal Harmony and it's impact on Health, with Sharon Kolkka How to Be Well: Finding Your Way Back to Energy, Balance and You with Sharon Kolkka In this episode of Between The Lines, Chelle and Leanne sit down with Australian wellness expert Sharon Kolkka to talk about her book How to Be Well, co-written with integrative medicine specialist Dr Karen Coates. This conversation is a gentle but powerful reminder that many women are living in a constant state of busyness — juggling work, family and endless to-do lists — while slowly becoming overwhelmed, exhausted and disconnected from their own wellbeing. How to Be Well offers a different way forward. Through a practical and compassionate approach, Sharon and Karen introduce a framework to help women better understand their current state of health, whether they are thriving, surviving or depleted, and what small, meaningful steps they can take to move towards greater energy, balance and resilience. In our conversation with Sharon, we explore: Why so many women are feeling overwhelmed and burnt out The signs that you may be running on empty (even if you’ve normalised it) The idea of assessing whether you are thriving, surviving or depleted The importance of emotional wellbeing alongside physical health A more holistic, realistic approach to self-care How small, consistent changes can support long-term wellbeing Sharon brings decades of experience in women’s health and emotional wellbeing to this conversation, sharing insights in a way that feels both grounded and achievable. This episode is a thoughtful invitation to pause, reflect and consider what it might look like to take better care of yourself - not perfectly, but intentionally. If you’ve been feeling overtired, stretched too thin, or like your own needs have slipped to the bottom of the list, this conversation will resonate. About the Book How to Be Well is a practical and compassionate guide for women who want to improve their physical, mental and emotional wellbeing. Blending science with real-life strategies, the book introduces a five-pillared approach to wellness and a personal health audit to help you understand your current state and take steps towards greater energy, vitality and resilience. About the Author Sharon Kolkka is one of Australia’s most trusted wellness experts, with over 40 years of experience in emotional wellbeing, stress resilience and women’s hormonal health. She has worked as an executive leader in award-winning wellness retreats and has supported thousands of women through transformative health programs. Sharon is a highly regarded speaker known for making complex health information accessible, practical and empowering. AND IF YOU LOVE DISCUSSING BOOKS: Join our bookclub here for insider author chats: https://www.betweenthelinesaustralia.com/bookclub2026 /episode/index/show/2ca7063a-43dc-4422-94af-a9ab672e2488/id/39484435

Ep 64: Meet Cute… or Murder? with Shailee Thompson 03/01/2026

Ep 63: How Healing Happens One Small Step at a Time: Sit, Stay, Grow with Angelika von Sanden 02/15/2026

Ep 62: Three Women. Three Eras. One Enduring Story. Three Juliets with Minnie Darke 02/01/2026

Ep 61: When the Past Refuses to Stay Buried: Burning Mountain with Darcy Tindale 01/18/2026

BOOKCLUB SPECIAL: Someone Else's Child 01/11/2026

Ep 60: The audacity to be free with Hana Assafiri 01/04/2026

Ep 59: One Mistake That Changes Everything: The Mix-Up by Kylie Ladd 12/28/2025

BOOKCLUB SPECIAL: Winter of the Wolf 12/21/2025

Ep 58: Is This Still the Life I Want? Boogie Wonderland with Kate Halfpenny 12/16/2025

BOOKCLUB SPECIAL: Dear Digital We Need to Talk 11/23/2025

BOOKCLUB SPECIAL: Dear Digital We Need to Talk Dear Digital, We Need to Talk: Reclaiming Our Human Operating System with Dr. Kristy Goodwin In this insightful and energising conversation, Chelle and Leanne sit down with digital wellbeing expert Dr. Kristy Goodwin to unpack her book Dear Digital, We Need to Talk — a science-backed guide to navigating technology in a way that honours how our brains and bodies are actually designed to function. Drawing on neurobiology, peak-performance research, and years of working with high achievers, Kristy explains why so many of us feel constantly “switched on but powered down,” and how small, realistic micro-habits can help us reclaim focus, energy, and calm in a digitally intense world. From the story behind the book’s title, to understanding chronotypes, stress responses, and our ultradian rhythm, this episode is full of practical takeaways and laugh-out-loud moments (including tech glitches that prove the point). Whether you’re an executive, a business owner, or someone simply tired of feeling overwhelmed by screens, this conversation will reshape the way you think about digital life. You’ll hear: Why digital detoxes don’t work — and what actually does How to align your tech habits with your human operating system The role of ultradian rhythms and why breaks boost—not hinder—productivity Simple strategies like physiological sighs, tech curfews, and 30-second eye resets Why connection, “white space,” and tiny micro-habits are essential for wellbeing How walking, nature, and even shower thoughts restore creativity and reduce stress The gender wellbeing gap and why women are facing higher levels of digital burnout Discussion prompt: Kristy says big changes come from small hinges — tiny habits that support our biology. What’s one micro-habit you want to try this week to feel more “powered up” in your digital life? Tell us on Instagram or in the book club. P.S. Dear Digital, We Need to Talk is an incredibly accessible, practical, and compassionate read — perfect for anyone craving a healthier relationship with technology without giving it up. /episode/index/show/2ca7063a-43dc-4422-94af-a9ab672e2488/id/39120665

BOOKCLUB SPECIAL: Cactus Pear for my Beloved By Samah Sabawi 11/13/2025

Ep 57: The Bookshop Detectives by Gareth & Louise Ward 11/05/2025

Ep 56: The Introvert’s Guide to Leaving the House: Real Talk on Social Anxiety, Self-Acceptance & Connection with Jenny Valentish 10/20/2025

Ep 56: The Introvert’s Guide to Leaving the House: Real Talk on Social Anxiety, Self-Acceptance & Connection with Jenny Valentish The Introvert’s Guide to Leaving the House: Real Talk on Social Anxiety, Self-Acceptance & Connection with Jenny Valentish Step into the quietly chaotic world of social survival with Chelle and Leanne as they chat with journalist and author Jenny Valentish about her brilliant and funny new book, The Introvert’s Guide to Leaving the House. Written for introverts, “awkwards,” “sociophobes,” and everyone who’s ever felt drained by small talk, Jenny’s book is packed with real-life strategies, relatable stories, and a good dose of humour. In this episode, Jenny opens up about what it really means to live (and thrive) as an introvert in an extrovert’s world—covering everything from practical “game plans” for social scenarios to the deeper roots of social reluctance, self-protection, and connection. You’ll hear: How Jenny’s own experiences with anxiety, addiction, and sobriety shaped the book Why introverts don’t need to be “fixed”—just better equipped with their own strategies The difference between solitude and loneliness (and how to find your sweet spot) What “shoulder-to-shoulder” socialising is and why it’s a game changer How social anxiety, ADHD, and neurodivergence overlap in unexpected ways Why “show up, then slip out early” might be your new party motto The surprising role of spirituality and ecstatic dance in her journey toward self-connection Jenny’s take on humour, authenticity, and the power of books that find you at the right time Discussion prompt: Are you more of an introvert, extrovert—or a mix of both? What helps you recharge or feel more comfortable in social settings? Share your thoughts with us on Instagram or in the book club! PS: If you’ve ever dreaded a party invite, overthought a phone call, or longed for deeper conversations, The Introvert’s Guide to Leaving the House is your next must-read. Thoughtful, funny, and wonderfully validating—this one’s for everyone who’s ever said, “I’d rather stay home.” /episode/index/show/2ca7063a-43dc-4422-94af-a9ab672e2488/id/38644915

Ep 55: The Butterfly Women: Melbourne’s Hidden Histories & Murder Mysteries with Madeleine Cleary 09/07/2025

Ep 55: The Butterfly Women: Melbourne’s Hidden Histories & Murder Mysteries with Madeleine Cleary The Butterfly Women: Melbourne’s Hidden Histories & Murder Mysteries with Madeleine Cleary Step back in time with Chelle and Leanne as they chat with debut author Madeleine Cleary about her captivating historical novel, The Butterfly Women. Set in the shadowy streets of 1863 Melbourne, this story weaves together romance, drama, and a murder mystery—all through the eyes of two unforgettable women: Johanna Callahan, an Irish immigrant working in a brothel, and Harriet Gardner, a determined journalist on the hunt for a serial killer. Madeleine shares the wild ride of researching and writing her book (think: archives, family secrets, and a dash of footy-mum book clubs!), and what it means to shine a light on the complex, gritty, and often overlooked lives of women in 19th-century Australia. In this episode: The real-life family history that inspired The Butterfly Women—and how Madeleine’s infamous ancestor became a character in her novel What it took to research Melbourne’s notorious Little Lon district (spoiler: years of digging through archives and old newspapers!) The challenges and joys of balancing historical accuracy with page-turning storytelling How the book evolved from a quiet literary novel to a full-on murder mystery, complete with red herrings and footy-mum sleuths The power and agency of women—even in the toughest circumstances—and the entrepreneurial spirit of Melbourne’s brothel keepers Madeleine’s writing process, from train commutes to tight deadlines, and her advice for aspiring authors A sneak peek at Madeleine’s next project, inspired by another family mystery Discussion prompt: What’s your favourite historical fiction set in Australia, or a family story you wish someone would turn into a novel? Share your thoughts with us on Instagram or in the book club! PS: If you love stories that blend real history, complex women, and a good old-fashioned whodunit, The Butterfly Women is a must-read. And keep an eye out for Madeleine’s next book—she’s just getting started! /episode/index/show/2ca7063a-43dc-4422-94af-a9ab672e2488/id/36967485

Ep 54: How to Dodge Flying Sandals with Daniel Nour 09/01/2025

Ep 53: By Her Hand: Marion Taffe on Finding Voice and Courage in a Violent World 08/24/2025

Ep 53: By Her Hand: Marion Taffe on Finding Voice and Courage in a Violent World Episode: By Her Hand: Marion Taffe on Finding Voice and Courage in a Violent World What does it take for a young woman to find her voice in a world determined to silence her? In this episode, Chelle and Leanne sit down with debut author Marion Taffe to explore her powerful historical novel, By Her Hand. Set in the wild, windswept Peak District of Mercia in AD 910, the story follows Freda—a girl who dreams of writing, longs for her father’s approval, and must navigate a world full of danger, loss, and impossible choices. Marion shares her journey from journalism to fiction, the six-year process of bringing Freda’s story to life, and the inspiration she drew from Old English poetry and fierce women of history. This episode is a celebration of women’s courage, the complexity of emotions, and the importance of breaking the rules to find your own voice—on the page and beyond. In this episode: The inspiration behind By Her Hand and the real historical women who helped shape Freda’s character Marion’s transition from a globe-trotting journalist to a debut novelist—and why fiction was her next big leap The painstaking research, rewrites, and pandemic pivots that shaped the novel (plus a cameo from Marion’s kids learning medieval history at home!) How Marion balanced historical accuracy with vivid storytelling, from Old English poetry to the book’s striking cover design by Sandy Cole The emotional journey of Freda: from fear and anger to courage and self-expression Why learning the rules—and then breaking them—is essential for writers and dreamers alike Marion’s advice for anyone struggling to find their voice or push back against expectations Discussion prompt: What’s a “rule” you’ve had to break to be true to yourself? Or, which historical era would you love to see through the eyes of a fierce female character? Join us on Instagram or in the book club to share your thoughts! PS: If you’re drawn to stories of resilience, creativity, and women who fight for their place in the world, By Her Hand is a must-read. Let us know your favorite moments and what resonated with you most! /episode/index/show/2ca7063a-43dc-4422-94af-a9ab672e2488/id/36967465

Ep 52: Coffee, Confessions & Connection: Saman Shad on The Sex Lives of Married Women 08/10/2025

Ep 52: Coffee, Confessions & Connection: Saman Shad on The Sex Lives of Married Women Between The Lines – Episode: Coffee, Confessions & Connection: Saman Shad on The Sex Lives of Married Women What happens when three women—each with their own secrets, struggles, and cultural backgrounds—form an unlikely alliance over coffee, cocktails, and confessions? In this episode, Chelle and Leanne chat with Saman Shad about her bold, witty, and refreshingly honest novel, The Sex Lives of Married Women. Saman, a true “third culture kid,” draws on her globe-spanning experiences to create characters who are as complex as they are relatable. Together, they explore the messy realities of marriage, motherhood, and friendship—plus the power of open, honest conversations about intimacy and pleasure. In this episode: The story behind The Sex Lives of Married Women and why Saman wanted to write about female friendship and vulnerability What it means to be a third culture kid—and how that shapes relationships, identity, and storytelling Navigating cultural dynamics in modern marriages and friendships The challenges (and importance!) of writing about sex, pleasure, and real intimacy in long-term relationships How modern communication tools like WhatsApp and LinkedIn make their way into fiction—and real life Why female friendships matter, and how honesty, humor, and support can get us through even the toughest times Saman’s hopes for the book to inspire readers to have braver, more open conversations—about sex, relationships, and everything in between. Discussion prompt: Has a friendship ever helped you see your relationship or yourself in a new light? Or, what’s a conversation you wish women could have more openly? Share your thoughts with us on Instagram or in the book club! PS: If you’re looking for a read that’s equal parts hilarious, heartfelt, and honest, The Sex Lives of Married Women should be at the top of your pile. And if you love supporting Australian authors, grab a copy and pass it on! /episode/index/show/2ca7063a-43dc-4422-94af-a9ab672e2488/id/36967405

Ep 51: Turning Toward the Tough Stuff: Dr. Emily Musgrove on Getting Unstuck 07/27/2025

Ep 50: The Elements Series: Crime, Compassion & Cliffhangers - John Boyne’s Masterclass in Human Nature 07/13/2025

Ep 50: The Elements Series: Crime, Compassion & Cliffhangers - John Boyne’s Masterclass in Human Nature Between The Lines – Episode: The Elements Series: Crime, Compassion & Cliffhangers Ever finish a book and just need to talk about it? Multiply that by four, and you’ll get Chelle and Leanne’s reaction to John Boyne’s “The Elements” series! This week, our hosts dive into “Water,” “Earth,” “Fire,” and “Air”—four compact but powerful novellas that weave together stories of crime, guilt, trauma, and redemption. Boyne’s storytelling is masterful: each book stands alone but also connects into a larger, unforgettable tapestry of human experience. The characters—a mother on the run, a rising soccer star, a surgeon with secrets, and a father on a journey of transformation—are complex, flawed, and oh-so-relatable. The result? A reading experience that’s both disturbing and deeply moving. In this episode: The unique structure of “The Elements” series and how each novella brings a new perspective Why Boyne’s approach to responsibility and redemption feels so real (and sometimes hits a little too close to home) How the books challenge our ideas of good, bad, judgment, and compassion The emotional rollercoaster of connecting with characters who make questionable choices for all-too-human reasons Cliffhangers that will have you reaching for the next book (trust us: buy the whole set!) Why this series is one of Chelle and Leanne’s top recommendations—and the kind of stories that linger long after the last page Discussion prompt: Which element—Water, Earth, Fire, or Air—pulled you in the most? Did you find yourself judging or empathizing with the characters? We’d love to hear your thoughts, reactions, and wildest theories—join the conversation on Instagram or in the book club! PS: If you’re ready for a binge-worthy, emotionally rich reading experience, grab all four novellas and let us know which one you couldn’t put down. Spoiler chat is totally encouraged! /episode/index/show/2ca7063a-43dc-4422-94af-a9ab672e2488/id/36967355

Ep 49: The Let Them Theory: Boundaries, Bold Claims & Being True to You 06/29/2025

Ep 48: The Stitch Up: Unpacking Kate Solly’s Paradise Heights Tale 06/15/2025

Ep 47: Healing Through Words: Rachael Coopes on 'The Art of Forgiveness 06/01/2025

Ep 46: Five Seasons in Seoul: A Journey Through Culture and Connection with Christine Newell 05/18/2025

Ep 45: Bridesmaids, Boundaries, and Being Yourself with Rachael Johns 05/04/2025

Ep 44: Letting Go: A Deep Dive into Living Untethered by Michael A Singer 04/20/2025

Ep 43: Rebels with Reading Glasses: Clare Pooley on Aging Disgracefully 04/06/2025

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