147: How Birth Order Shapes Family Dynamics and ADHD Behavior with Dr. Robert Hurst
Soaring Child: Thriving with ADHD
Release Date: 02/19/2025
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info_outlineIn this episode of The Soaring Child Podcast, Dana Kay is joined by Dr. Robert Hurst—an orthodontist with over 50 years of experience and a keen interest in the behavioral patterns of his patients. This conversation uncovers how birth order shapes everything from childhood behavior to lifelong decision-making.
Dr. Hurst, also known as Dr. Bob, shares his groundbreaking insights into "double birth orders," how they manifest in families, and their relevance to children with ADHD. Parents will discover practical tools to better understand their children’s unique traits and needs, making this episode a must-listen for anyone seeking to foster harmony and growth within their family. Visit Dr. Hurst’s website, www.mybirthorder.com, for more resources and information.
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Key Takeaways:
[3:51] The Basics of Birth Order and Why It Matters
[5:53] Double Birth Orders: A Revolutionary Concept
[7:54] The Role of Birth Order in Children with ADHD
[9:06] How True Birth Order is Shaped by Family Structure and Life Events
[11:59] Evidence Supporting Birth Order Theory
[16:40] How Parents Can Use Birth Order Insights to Support Their Children
[21:13] Practical Tips for Navigating Family Dynamics Using Birth Order
[24:49] Where to Learn More About Birth Order
Memorable Moments:
"Birth order is far more complex than just being the first, second, or third child; it’s shaped by family dynamics and gaps between siblings."
"A true number three is often sensitive and creative, laughing on the outside but crying on the inside."
"Children with ADHD often represent a 'double birth order,' where their traits are heightened and require unique attention."
"Blended families introduce new dynamics; any child who gets demoted in birth order will often struggle to adapt."
"Sibling rivalry plays a critical role in determining a child’s true birth order and personality traits."
"Firstborns are natural leaders who thrive on responsibility, while second-borns often excel socially or athletically to differentiate themselves."
"Treating all your children the same is a mistake—each child is unique and requires individualized support."
"Parents must understand their own birth order and how it interacts with their children's dynamics."
"Understanding double birth orders can unlock hidden patterns in family behavior and relationships."
"Birth order isn’t just theory—it’s visible in family photo albums, high school reunions, and even at Thanksgiving dinner tables."
How to Connect with Dr. Robert Hurst:
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Website: https://mybirthorder.com/
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Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LifesFingerprintYourBirthOrder
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