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EP 65: Interview with a Betrayed Male Spouse: Healing from Narcissistic Abuse and Doing the Work

Sam's Healing Podcast

Release Date: 02/11/2026

EP 67: Guest Michael Webb: When the Betrayed Feels Like They Have to Parent the Unfaithful show art EP 67: Guest Michael Webb: When the Betrayed Feels Like They Have to Parent the Unfaithful

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If you're in infidelity recovery, you've probably felt this: the betrayed partner asks for change, the unfaithful partner tries to comply — and somehow it still feels like nothing is working. The betrayed partner wonders if their spouse is just checking a box. The unfaithful partner feels overwhelmed and like nothing they do is ever enough. Both partners end up more frustrated, more distant, and less safe than before. This isn't a character flaw. It's a pattern — and there's a name for it. My great friend and therapist Michael Webb explains it through the lens of Transactional Analysis....

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EP 66: Why Our OWN Healing is So Important After Infidelity show art EP 66: Why Our OWN Healing is So Important After Infidelity

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What if your own healing after infidelity wasn’t just about “getting over it,” but about becoming medicine—for you, for your kids, and for a world full of hurting people? In today's episode, I talk about why your own healing matters, no matter what happens to your marriage. Infidelity can shatter your nervous system, your faith, your sense of self. But it can also become the soil where something deeply rooted and beautiful begins to grow—not because the betrayal was good, but because of what you choose to do with your pain. I explore how faith moves forward in the aftermath of...

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EP 65: Interview with a Betrayed Male Spouse: Healing from Narcissistic Abuse and Doing the Work show art EP 65: Interview with a Betrayed Male Spouse: Healing from Narcissistic Abuse and Doing the Work

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Today you'll meet Bill.  It's a rare and powerful look into what it means for a man to walk through hell and choose healing, truth, and self-respect on the other side of infidelity and abuse.  As a betrayed male spouse who also grew up under relentless narcissistic abuse, Bill didn’t just survive infidelity and emotional devastation—he confronted it head-on and rebuilt every part of his life from the ground up. The pain and confusion he carried started long before betrayal, in a childhood marked by gaslighting, control, and chronic invalidation that left him feeling defective,...

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EP 64: Adam Nisenson Discusses The Elephant in the Room for Betrayed Men and Women show art EP 64: Adam Nisenson Discusses The Elephant in the Room for Betrayed Men and Women

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Infidelity is often the “elephant in the room” of a relationship—everyone feels its weight, but few know how to name it, let alone heal from it. In this episode of Sam’s Healing Podcast, Sam sits down with Adam Nisenson for a raw, compassionate conversation about what betrayal really does to us and how we can move from silent survival into honest, lasting recovery. Sam and Adam explore the devastation of infidelity for both the betrayed and the unfaithful: trust shattered, identity shaken, and an entire shared story suddenly called into question. Instead of dealing with that pain, many...

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EP 63: Healing is Feeling: Learning How to Feel Again After Infidelity show art EP 63: Healing is Feeling: Learning How to Feel Again After Infidelity

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Feeling anything after infidelity can feel impossible.  As the unfaithful, you may believe you don’t deserve feelings—or that if you let yourself feel, you’ll drown in shame, grief, fear and more compounding failure.  As the betrayed, your world has exploded into rage, panic, hypervigilance, and a kind of pain that feels like it will never stop. In today's episode, I'll do my best to slow all of that down and make room for both stories—without excusing harm and without minimizing anyone’s trauma. I'll begin by naming a hard truth many unfaithful partners never say out loud:...

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EP 62: How to Guarantee Personal Transformation In Healing from Infidelity show art EP 62: How to Guarantee Personal Transformation In Healing from Infidelity

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If there's one question almost everyone asks after infidelity or betrayal it's this:  “Can I or we ever really heal from this devastation?” In todays episode, I share the one real guarantee that exists in recovery—not a gimmick or quick fix, but a way of showing up to your own healing that works whether you were betrayed or you were the one who did the betraying.  This is the same approach that helped me rebuild my own life after my own worst failures and has supported countless clients walking through the wreckage of affairs and deception. You can’t control what your partner...

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EP 61 Guest Judith Nisenson Discusses Why Women Also Cheat the Shame of the Unfaithful Female show art EP 61 Guest Judith Nisenson Discusses Why Women Also Cheat the Shame of the Unfaithful Female

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Today you'll meet Judith Nisenson, a certified coach and expert in dealing with unfaithful women.  She's also Adam Nisenson's wife whom many of you will also know as The Betrayal Shrink who has appeared on the podcast multiple times.   Judith Nisenson is the founder of Women’sWRK, a Certified Life Coach (ICF-ACC) and Betrayal Trauma Coach (APSATS-CPC) specializing in helping women who have betrayed their partners. Her work focuses on guiding women to face the truth of their actions, dismantle denial and rationalizations, and step into authentic accountability and transformation....

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EP 60 Dr. Jake Porter EP 60 Dr. Jake Porter "How Can the Betrayed Ever Make Sense Out of Their Partner's Infidelity?"

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How can someone betrayed by infidelity and/or addiction ever begin to make sense of the experience? When your world is turned upside down by something as devastating and disorienting as betrayal, it’s natural to wonder: How do I even process this loss? Where do I turn for answers?  How do I make sense of something so nonsensical?   In this episode, Dr. Jake Porter—renowned counselor, trauma specialist, educator, and creator of the Couple–Centered Recovery® model—offers practical wisdom and clear, trauma-informed guidance for those seeking to understand both the betrayed and...

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EP 59 with Sharon Rinearson: EP 59 with Sharon Rinearson: "I Don't Think I Could Have Been More Disrespected by my Husband..."

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How does the betrayed understand the heinous choices of the unfaithful?   "If my unfaithful truly cared about me, how could they make the choices they have made to be unfaithful and go outside the marriage?"   How does the betrayed work through the understanding of why the unfaithful had such a flurry of activity for their affair partners, but NOT for the betrayed spouse themselves?  How could they and how DID they work so hard for the affair partners but yet so little on the marriage and for their spouses?     Sharon Rinearson—an expert therapist with 30+ years of...

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EP 58: EP 58: "It Was Like a Death to the Life I Had Planned." A Betrayed Guest Shares Her Story

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If you’re a betrayed partner, you know: infidelity can feel like a death. The death of a marriage. The loss of the life you planned. The shattering of what you thought you were living. For those who haven’t faced it, that comparison might sound dramatic—but for survivors, it’s reality. The grief and pain after discovering infidelity or addiction can be overwhelming, and “moving on” can feel impossible. Yet, in today’s episode, you’ll meet Joanie—a client and survivor—who bravely shares her journey for the first time. Joanie’s story is raw, honest, and ultimately hopeful:...

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Today you'll meet Bill.  It's a rare and powerful look into what it means for a man to walk through hell and choose healing, truth, and self-respect on the other side of infidelity and abuse. 

As a betrayed male spouse who also grew up under relentless narcissistic abuse, Bill didn’t just survive infidelity and emotional devastation—he confronted it head-on and rebuilt every part of his life from the ground up. The pain and confusion he carried started long before betrayal, in a childhood marked by gaslighting, control, and chronic invalidation that left him feeling defective, disposable, and utterly alone. At a painfully young age, the abuse and hopelessness ran so deep that he even considered ending his own life, convinced there was no escape and no version of himself that could ever be enough.

What makes Bill’s story so compelling is that he refuses to sugarcoat anything. He’s direct, no-nonsense, and cuts through the clichés about “just getting over it,” naming the rage, shame, and suicidal thoughts many male survivors quietly carry but rarely speak aloud. Instead of staying stuck in that darkness, Bill chose a different path. 

He did the deep therapeutic work, faced his trauma history, and began the slow, courageous process of reclaiming his voice, his boundaries, and his sense of worth. He stopped abandoning himself to keep the peace, learned to listen to his own body and intuition, and started building a life that was no longer organized around managing other people’s egos and emotions.

Today, Bill is not the man he once was. His life has taken a completely new turn—not just externally, but internally, where it matters most. He doesn’t just enjoy life; he actually enjoys himself. He can sit in his own company without shame, look in the mirror, and see a man he respects, trusts, and genuinely loves. He talks about rediscovering joy, purpose, and simple pleasures that used to be buried under survival mode, and how his relationships changed as he began to show up grounded, clear, and unwilling to tolerate abuse in any form.

This episode is for the warriors—the men and women who have been betrayed, minimized, or driven to the edge, yet still feel a quiet fight inside them that refuses to die. Bill stands as living proof that you can come from profound narcissistic abuse, walk through the devastation of infidelity and even suicidal despair, and still choose a life marked by dignity, strength, and peace. If you’re tired of carrying shame that never belonged to you and ready to stop rescuing everyone else while abandoning yourself, Bill’s story will call you higher. 

His message is clear: you are not powerless, you are not crazy, and you are not alone. There is a path to healing where you don’t just get your life back—you finally get yourself back, and you learn to love and respect that man without apology.


To Healing,

Sam
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