S2 E23: The Life of the Mind, Season 2 Roundtable
When We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything But
Release Date: 12/09/2024
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When We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything But
In this special crossover episode of When We're Not Hustling and Hobby Whores, Jessie Sage speaks with Mia Walsch, an Australian leatherworker and former sex worker, about her journey into leather crafting during the extended lockdowns in Melbourne. The conversation explores Mia's transition from sex work to a creative outlet that became a side hustle, as she intricately crafts leather harnesses and other items, emphasizing the therapeutic benefits of working with her hands. They discuss the challenges of selling on platforms like Etsy and the ethical considerations Mia faces as a vegetarian...
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S3 E11: What Does It Mean to Be Human? More Importantly, What Does It Mean to Have Humanity? with Zalika
When We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything But
In this episode of When We're Not Hustling, Jessie Sage speaks with Zalika U. Ibaorimi, PhD, about the complex intersections of race, gender, and sex work. They discuss how Blackness disrupts conventional categories of identity and the limitations of the term "sex worker" in encompassing the diverse experiences within the sex industry. The conversation delves into the historical and systemic dehumanization of marginalized bodies, particularly focusing on the concept of "no humans involved" as a police code and its broader implications in Black studies. Zalika, an anti-disciplinary artist and...
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S3 E10: What Do Mobile Peepshows, Burlesque and Non Profits Have in Common? Ruby
When We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything But
In this episode of When We're Not Hustling, Jessie Sage speaks with Ruby about her extensive work with the Peers Victoria Resources Society, a nonprofit supporting sex workers in Victoria, BC. Ruby shares insights into the organization's history and services, such as night outreach and harm reduction programs. She discusses the challenges sex workers face, including legal issues under the Nordic model and societal stigma, and highlights efforts to reform Canadian sex work laws. Ruby also touches on her personal journey from being sex work-adjacent to advocating for sex worker rights and her...
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S3 E9: I'm an Immigrant Six Times Over, and My Heart Helps Me Find a Sense of Home with Savannah
When We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything But
In this episode of When We're Not Hustling, Jessie Sage interviews Savannah, a UK-based full-service sex worker turned webcam model and contemporary artist. Savannah discusses her self-care guide for sex workers, emphasizing the importance of acknowledging sex workers as full people with complex lives beyond their jobs. She shares how art has helped her find a sense of home and belonging as an immigrant and how it aids in processing her experiences of survival and stigma. Savannah's work includes the Self Care for Sex Workers Journal, aimed at promoting well-being and balance for sex workers,...
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S3 E8: I Am a Pro Domme and a Pro Wrestler—I Like to Play the Heel with Katarina
When We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything But
In this episode of When We're Not Hustling, host Jessie Sage and guest Katarina "The Domme Kat" Pierce delve into her journey from TV production and journalism to becoming a co-founder of the Sex Work Survival Guide, a nonprofit providing crucial resources and education to sex workers. The conversation covers the challenges and stigmas within the sex industry, the importance of safety and community, and the unique blend of creativity and empowerment found in wrestling and BDSM. Katarina highlights her passion for wrestling as both an art form and a means of personal expression, illustrating...
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S3 E7: I Make Art From Bones and I Like Homesteading, Too with Miss Faith Rae
When We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything But
In this episode of the When We're Not Hustling podcast, host Jessie Sage welcomes Ms. Faith Rae, a Canadian sex worker and multidisciplinary artist. The conversation explores Faith's life outside her work persona, delving into her passions for sustainability and art. Faith shares her unique craft of creating art with ethically sourced animal bones, a practice that connects her with nature and offers a sense of healing and honoring life cycles. Her dedication to sustainability extends to her lifestyle choices, including plans to build a homestead with permaculture principles. Throughout the...
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S3 E6: Stripping and Cam Modelling Isn't as Fun as Making Instant Noodles with Steph Sia
When We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything But
In this episode of When We're Not Hustling, host Jessie Sage sits down with Steph Sia, a multidisciplinary artist and content creator from Vancouver, to discuss her diverse experiences in the adult industry. As a stripper, podcaster, and online content creator, Sia shares insights into balancing work and personal life while navigating the challenges and misconceptions surrounding sex work. The conversation also explores her unique YouTube channel, Sia Slurps, where she reviews instant noodles, highlighting her passion for creative expression beyond the industry. Throughout the episode, Sia...
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S3 E5: The Most Taboo Subject in the World Isn't Sex, It's Perimenopause
When We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything But
In S3 E5 of When We're Not Hustling, Jessie Sage sits down with Jet Setting Jasmine, an award-winning adult film director, psychotherapist, and master fetish trainer, to discuss perimenopause, evolving identities, and the challenges of navigating life, family, and sex work with autonomy and care. They explore the impact of bodily changes, the importance of boundary-setting, and Jasmine’s unique approach to parenting and education through travel. This episode offers a candid look at embracing new phases of life with confidence, community, and self-acceptance. In this Episode: 00:02:51...
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S3 E4: I'm No Longer the Object of Men's Desires—I'm the Subject of My Own Story with Suzannah Weiss
When We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything But
In this episode of When We're Not Hustling, host Jessie Sage sits down with Suzanna Weiss, a sexologist and author of Subjectified: Becoming a Sexual Subject. Weiss shares her journey toward sexual empowerment, beginning with overcoming an eating disorder tied to societal objectification and evolving through experiences like sex parties and sex writing. Her book challenges traditional narratives around women’s sexuality, urging women to reclaim agency and become active participants in their own desires, rather than passive objects of male fantasy. This episode offers a nuanced discussion on...
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S3 E3: Urban Warriors Sometimes Carry Seeds and Scythes with Xanthe Rhea
When We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything But
In this episode of When We're Not Hustling, Jessie Sage sits down with long-time friend Xanthe Rhea to discuss her journey from stripping to full-service sex work. Xanthe shares insights into the financial pressures dancers face, including the challenges of "pay-to-work" club systems, and how these experiences shaped her transition within the industry. Beyond sex work, the conversation explores Xanthe's passion for urban farming, her background in herbalism, and her commitment to holistic health practices. They discuss the philosophical differences between herbalism and Western medicine, as...
info_outlineIn this special roundtable episode wrapping up Season 2 of When We're Not Hustling, host Jessie Sage, producer Emily Foster, and guests Aviva Ruse, Amber Délice, and Madeleine Blair dive into the complexities of the mind.
They discuss the connection between the brain, emotions, and personal experiences, exploring how the mind processes thoughts and feelings while balancing mental and physical experiences. The conversation touches on the challenges and pleasures of living in one's mind and the importance of grounding oneself in reality. They also examine emotional states like jealousy and envy, particularly in relation to those with seemingly simpler lives, and highlight the significance of rest, play, and creativity for maintaining mental health. Throughout the discussion, they share personal strategies for reconnecting with their minds, embracing their strengths, and offering practical advice for navigating life with a mindful approach.
In This Episode:
00:00: Exploring the Nature of the Mind
02:53: The Mind as a Processor: Perspectives & Experiences
05:57: Navigating the Mind: Personal Experiences & Challenges
09:06: The Mind as a Pleasant or Unpleasant Space
12:08: The Balance of Mind, Body, and Emotion
15:02: Fostering a Life of the Mind
18:01: The Role of Habits in Shaping the Mind
20:49: The Importance of Grounding in the Life of the Mind
37:40: Navigating Emotional States & Self-Acceptance
39:02: The Burden of Intellect: Jealousy & Envy
43:59: Finding Balance: Rest, Play, and Creativity
47:51: Bridging the Gap: Reconnecting with the Mind
56:08: Embracing Individuality: Strengths & Coping Mechanisms
01:00:51: Advice & Reflections: Wisdom from Experience
Guests:
Aviva Ruse is a New England-born companion living in West Hollywood. Her bylines as Aviva include Tryst, The Fix, and Rogue Collective. She is currently shopping a collection of essays (and endlessly shopping for lingerie!). She blogs at dateavivaruse.com/blog.
You can find Aviva:
Aviva's Episode: A Funny Thing Happened at the Plastic Surgeon's
Website: DateAvivaRuse.com
OnlyFans: onlyfans.com/rr639
Amber Délice is an independent provider and companion based in Boulder, Colorado (just a quick hop away from Denver). She is blessed to travel often and has clients who not only fly her to them but also come to visit for adventures in Colorado. She loves sensuality, writing, dance, immersive theater, travel, and poetry. She is also an ex-food and wine journalist.
You can find Amber:
Amber's Episode: Conversational Pilgrimages That Shape Our Lives
Website: meetamberdelice.com
Instagram: @meetamberdelice
Madeleine Blair is a sex worker, writer, freelance editor, writing coach, and the founder and host of Sex Worker Writes, a hookers-only virtual literary salon.
You can find Madeleine:
Madeleine's episode:Poetry and Personas that Heal
Website: madeleineblair.com
The Rest:
Host: Jessie Sage
Producer: Emily Foster
Music: Benjamin J Benamati
Sponsor: Assembly Four
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