From SEO TikTok to $18M Agencies: How Creators Actually Scale
The Edward Show
E945: I’m joined by Matt Diamante and Jake Tlapek for a long-form, unfiltered conversation about what actually happens after you win on social media. All three of us came up through SEO content on TikTok and Instagram. This episode isn’t about going viral - it’s about turning attention into durable businesses, building teams, and deciding what you want to scale next. We cover the real mechanics of growing agencies, removing yourself from delivery, using content as leverage, and how AI and social search are changing SEO in practice - not theory. What we talk about in this episode: - How...
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Is E-commerce SEO Dead? Google’s Universal Commerce Protocol & the Future of Search
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E944: Google has introduced the Universal Commerce Protocol (UCP), a system that allows merchants to send product data directly to Google so users can discover and buy products inside search, AI Mode, and Gemini - without ever visiting a website. In this episode, we break down what UCP actually is, how agentic commerce works, and what this shift means for e-commerce SEO, CRO, brand authority, and margins. Joining the discussion are Harpreet Singh, Gagan Ghotra, and David Quaid, three experienced SEOs with deep backgrounds in e-commerce, SaaS, B2B, and technical SEO. Together, we unpack...
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How to Get High-Quality Backlinks From Podcast Appearances
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E943: How to get high-quality backlinks from podcast appearances and why podcast guesting is one of the most effective and overlooked SEO strategies available right now. This is based on real experience. In 2022, I went on 30 podcasts in three months before I had an audience, social media presence, or this podcast. Those appearances helped me build backlinks, branded searches, topical authority, and ultimately led to everything I’m doing now. This episode covers why podcast backlinks work, how they affect SEO directly and indirectly, and exactly how to get booked on podcasts consistently....
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An $80 Press Release Ranked #1 on Google (And Tricked AI)
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E942: A real case study showing how an $80 press release from Matt Diamante (Hey Tony Agency) ranked #1 on Google for a non-branded keyword and influenced Google’s AI Overview. This isn’t theory. This actually happened. I walk through exactly how a single press release, distributed through AB Newswire, showed up at the top of Google search results, was cited by a publication, and continued to influence AI search results weeks later - even after the original press release was no longer publicly accessible. This episode explains why press releases still matter, how they influence search...
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Google Is Breaking SEO: Permanent Manual Actions, AI Search & the Rise of Black Hat
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E941: Edward is joined by Charles Floate and David Quaid for a deep, technical conversation about what is actually happening in search right now - and why many long-held SEO assumptions no longer hold. We discuss a growing pattern of manual actions that appear to be permanent, rejected reconsideration requests even after large-scale cleanups, and why some businesses may never fully recover organic traffic from Google. From enterprise sites to small publishers, the rules are shifting fast. The conversation moves into AI search, ChatGPT visibility, Reddit’s dominance in the SERPs, and how...
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Google Penalties Are Becoming Permanent (And That Changes Everything)
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E940: Google penalties are no longer feeling like temporary setbacks. More and more site owners are fixing everything they’re told to fix, submitting reconsideration requests, and still getting rejected. In this episode, I break down why Google manual actions appear to be becoming semi-permanent, what multiple SEO practitioners are seeing in real data, and why Google may no longer be asking “did you fix it?” - but instead “should we ever trust you again?” We cover what’s changing, what’s being reported by people deep in the weeds, and what this means if you’re using aggressive...
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How to Build Backlinks for a Brand New Website (From Zero Authority)
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E939: If you’ve just launched a website and have no backlinks, this episode walks through how to build links the right way - without shortcuts, spam, or jumping into strategies that don’t work for new sites. This episode is based on a real thread from Charles Floate’s r/linkbuilding subreddit, where someone asked how to build high-quality backlinks for a brand-new beauty blog with no existing authority. I break down the best answers, add real-world context, and explain what actually matters when you’re starting from scratch. We cover why most people make link building harder than it...
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YouTube Just Overtook Reddit in AI Search (Here’s How to Win Citations)
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E938: I break down new data showing that YouTube has officially overtaken Reddit as the most cited social platform in AI search, including large language models like ChatGPT. We’ll cover what this shift means for SEO, brand visibility, and how to actually get your content cited by AI using YouTube. What changed in AI search - YouTube is now cited more frequently than Reddit in AI-generated answers - Transcripts and descriptions make YouTube content easy for LLMs to read - AI systems increasingly rely on YouTube for explanations, reviews, and comparisons Why YouTube now beats Reddit for AI...
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Claude Cowork Is a Literal Cheat Code for SEO (Here’s How Agencies See It)
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E937: Watch on YouTube: A deep, practical look at how Claude Cowork is changing the way SEO work is actually executed. This is not a theoretical discussion about AI. The focus is on real workflows: how Claude Cowork performs hands-on SEO tasks that normally require hours of manual effort, and how agencies can realistically use it today. The conversation walks through live examples of Claude Cowork performing local SEO audits, Google Business Profile analysis, competitor research, and on-page SEO evaluations by directly interacting with the browser and SEO tools. Sarvesh Shrivastava joins the...
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How to Build Local Backlinks That Actually Increase Local Rankings
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E936: Local SEO lives or dies by local authority - and one of the biggest drivers of that authority is local backlinks. I break down exactly how to build high-quality local backlinks that help search engines see your business as an authority in a specific city or region. This applies whether you’re starting a local business, competing in a crowded market, or expanding into new locations. I cover practical strategies that send real referral traffic, strengthen local topical authority, and support long-term ranking improvements - not theory. What you’ll learn: - Why local backlinks matter...
info_outlineE926: Jake Hundley and David Quaid join the show to break down one of the most misunderstood topics in SEO: schema markup.
For years, marketers, agencies, and “AI SEO” tools have claimed that schema is required to rank in Google and now in large language models like ChatGPT, Perplexity, and Claude. We take those claims apart and explains, in practical terms, why most websites don’t benefit from schema at all - and in some cases, can actually create risk by using it.
This is a grounded, technical discussion about how search engines and LLMs actually work, what data they really use, and why most schema advice is built on correlation, not causation.
What this covers
- Whether schema markup is required to rank in Google
- Whether schema helps you appear in ChatGPT, Perplexity, or other LLMs
- How large language models actually retrieve web content
- Why schema does not improve relevance, trust, or understanding for most sites
- Why correlation studies from tools like Semrush are misleading
- The difference between correlation and causation in SEO data
- Why rich snippets do not prove schema improves rankings
- What Google’s schema guidelines actually say about reviews and FAQs
- How misuse of review and FAQ schema can create risk
- Why Google removed most FAQ and review rich results
- When schema might make sense (flights, hotels, structured feeds)
- Why SaaS sites, blogs, and local businesses don’t need schema to rank
- How search engines already extract structured data from normal HTML
- Why tables, headings, and clean page structure matter more than schema
- How LLM prompts differ from search queries
- What “query fan-out” means for AI visibility
- How to test whether schema affects rankings or AI mentions
- Why SEO fundamentals still decide what ranks
Key ideas from the episode
- Search engines rank pages first, then use schema only if they need to display a feature
- You cannot use schema to make an irrelevant page rank
- LLMs do not crawl and index the web the way Google does
- LLMs usually receive raw HTML, not processed schema
- Schema is easy to fake and therefore cannot be a trust signal
- Most pages that rank with schema would rank without it
- Most schema usage exists because developers or plugins add it automatically
- Google already ignores most schema for rich results
- Real ranking signals still come from relevance, authority, and structure
Who this episode is for
- SEO practitioners who want data-driven clarity
- Business owners tired of technical SEO upsells
- Agencies selling or buying “AI optimization”
- Anyone being told they need schema to rank
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00:00 Introduction to Schema and SEO Experts
00:30 Debunking the Myth: Schema and LLMs
01:31 Correlation vs. Causation in Schema Usage
04:08 Practical Insights and Case Studies
11:00 The Role of Schema in Local SEO
16:29 Review and FAQ Schema Guidelines
21:35 Schema's Impact on Rankings and Methodology
23:47 Challenges and Realities in SEO
25:58 Discussing the Semrush Article on Technical SEO and AI Search
26:53 Debating the Validity of Schema in SEO
28:21 Analyzing the Impact of Schema on Search Rankings
30:00 Viewer Comments and Schema Debate
31:27 SEO Fundamentals and Long-Term Strategies
35:14 The Role of Schema in Modern SEO
39:03 Effective SEO Practices and Misconceptions
42:41 Concluding Thoughts and Future Tests
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